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Aloha everyone,
I have tried to not post for about 3 weeks but I just can't move forward. I have read and tried to follow everything on the site but I am just confused. I know this is a developers site and I am very intimiated to be castigated by you guys but...it's the internet so what the hell.
I have found numberous instruction threads pertaining to updating ROMS on the Wizard. It seems that up until recently there was only one way to do things but now there are many. As I try to answer questions I come into conflict over which way I shoudl be heading.
I currently have a working WIZ100 that boots with IPL 2.21.0001 SPL 2.21.0lip with GSM 2.25.11 and OS 2.25.11.1. I somehow got to this point, I think by following the instructions to get hardSPL on my device and booting on startup. I did not know if I next needed to find a ROM and if so then how to get that ROM activated on my device or what programs to do this with. I know that the threads spell it out but the threads pertain only to direct assumptions; the assumption that my head is not in my ass.
I wanted to attempt to put a new rom on here, for fun and to play around with something new. Perhaps increase reliability or to get WM6 going. I am stuck now though. Part of me wants to turn back and load the original ROM from the HTC site and the other part of me wants to try a new ROM as I already have this thing booting to the 0lip SPL.
Is anyone out there willing to help me either via this thread, personal message or IM?
Since you have already installed Hard SPL you should be safe to go ahead and pick virtually any ROM you choose on there. I don't have a lot of experience with Hard SPL yet, except for installing it on my kaiser, but the one thing I would guess that you should make sure that the ROM you want to flash doesn't have would be an IPL/SPL update included. As far as I know, I don't think any of the public ones that you find on here have them but make sure you read the chef of the ROM's entire post to make sure. And, if you magically happen to find my ROM somewhere, which you shouldn't since I only gave it to 2 people to try, don't flash it because mine does include an IPL/SPL update.
From my best understanding you have already loaded HardSPL and now are CID unlocked. If this is the case then I would recommend going forward and flashing a new rom to your device. Just go to the Wizard Mobile 6 thread and find one you like, and flash it.
Simple as that.
I appreciate your replies.
1) I am clarified like butter! What program do I download and use to flash the ROM to the Wiz, this has been a source of confusion for me.
2) If I download and install the HTC Cingular ROM from HTC, will that overwrite the HardSPL and return my phone to Factory Default, including the radio areas? In other words do I rid myself of 2.21.0lip?
Thanks for not beating my head in...very polite you devs are...
I like beating people's heads in, and you are far too polite, that I am actually having a very slight guilty twinge! Damn you. I have a G3 myself so I cannot help much, however, I found this sticky which may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320
I do know that once you choose your rom, you open the folder and run the item marked as ruu.
Now if you only had a G3, then I could fry you like the noob you are.
I suppose at some point, I should make a point of reading/learning about G4's. I know they are a far different animal from my G3.
That's the reason I said not to flash a ROM that contained an IPL/SPL upgrade since there is the possibility that it may overwrite Hard SPL, although I'm not positive of that, but better safe than sorry especially if it it's not an official ROM that carries the correct IPL/SPL format for a G4. If it doesn't contain the correct format for a G4 it could ruin your phone. If you flash an official ROM though and it overwrites it you can always just reinstall Hard SPL again and keep flashing. I hope this makes sense.
As for the files you need to flash a new ROM, they're usually included with the ROM. If they're not then just let me know and I'll upload them for you.
Good that you asked before damaging your (expensive) device...
Every Flash version comes with a RUU (Rom Update Utility) you just run that proggy and it does the rest.
To make it easier, look for a rom that states it's G4 safe (no IPL/SPL included), so you don't have to mess around with the inner files. If you want to, begin your tests with the TNT series, the latest build, stated in my sig is G4 safe, after that you'll be able to know the initial procedure.
Good Luck.
Thanks for the info.
Do I execute the ruu from Windows XP or from the SD card ont he device?
Why am I have a hard time searching for and finding TNT 5.2.1921 TouchFlo ROM?
The rom update utlity gives me an error when I try to update. Should I try to do all this from the sd card?
Well, I am plugging along. I rebooted after an error 300 came up on the rom utility. Any suggestions for me?
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
If you have ROM on your desktop, Connect your phone to your computer via USB, open up Activesync, uncheck the check box in settings that allows USB connections. Make sure you have at least 50% battery, then put your phone into bootloader mode. (soft reset while holding down the camera button- keep holding the button for 5 sec.) a tri-color RGB screen should come up. This is boot loader mode. Then run the rom update utility program, and everything is automatic from there on. once it is done flashing the phone will restart itself.
Thresher said:
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
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Try it and find out. I'd kind of like to know the answer to that one too, although my phones a G3 and already CID unlocked anyway. You can always reinstall Hard SPL over again if it does.
So this worked out well for me overall. Installing HardSPL to my G4, and then using a correct bootloader with the right ROM (to review).
I am having one issue.
I have the OEM ROM, however the RUU gives me an error. Is there a documented way to restore the phone to an original status? Is it even necessary?
I ask due to problems since my upgrade to the TNT rom. I am noticing a lot of missed calls and people have complained. Is this an issue with the 8125 and the particular ROM?
I don't know what to ask, or how to search for this. Thanks for any input you can offer.
Otherwise the TNT rom is awesome. I do miss the voice dialing though. Thats another search.
Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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So the Rom is broken up into major parts. Those parts must ineract with one another, so that would be why my radio version may be at cause?
Yep. The ROM can contain the IPL, SPL, OS, Splash Screens, GSM (the radio), and extended ROM, any of which can be changed or upgraded individually without affecting the other parts of the ROM (for all intents and purposes anyway). That means you can change your radio version without it deleting all of your settings or your installed apps in your OS, etc etc.
Since you still upgrade each individual part using a RUU that is able to update any of the parts you still get a warning when you run it that it will delete all of your files, but as long as the update that you're running doesn't include a new OS you can ignore those warnings.
I decided to back out of the entire upgrade and move back to WM5 Official Cingular HTC ROM. I am stoked that I now know the full process of taking a G4 through hardSPL, ROM updates and restoral.
I was too scared to try any radio updates or fixes. Maybe when I upgrade phones I will come back to playing with the 8125 but for now, I just need a good functioning phone for work.
Do these Cingular radio fix cabs apply to a standard phone or only to upgraded ones?
Hello, I bought a Wing this morning from a guy that flashed it to what looks like OpenTouchV3.OSL WWE (ROM date 06/20/07). I would like to reflash back to the stock TMobile Rom, but from reading this forum it looks like I have a chance of bricking it. I have downloaded the stock Rom image RUU, do I just run it or would that be totally stupid???!!!
Thanks for your help!
the stock rom is utter trash (it's really not worth it, and you already have a nice cushy custom), but anyway...
soft reset your wing while holding the camera button. A tricolor bootloader screen should appear. On it will be the numbers of your IPL and SPL. If your SPL 4 or higher and is all numbers, you can just connect your phone to your computer and run the RUU.
If, however, the SPL has letters in it (yang or something like that), I refer you to one of the more senior members (papamopps, ivan help!)
hmm, I can't seem to get the tricolor bootloader screen to come up
hold camera, poke hole on side, keep holding camera until tri color screen comes up
Aha, thanks. It says:
IPL 4.10.0002
SPL 4.70.Yang
I'm thinking this needs some expertise
na i dont think you can undo that.
thats hard-spl.
look around i think there was a thread where someone asked how to undo hard-spl.
Well, I'm glad I asked! Thank you.
What I really want is Office and Voice Command on here, as I am using it for business purposes. Are these available? Or can I flash a cooked ROM with these programs on there if my device is hardSPL?
hey a found the solution!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364543
Searched for the thread on how to undo HardSPL, worked like a charm & was able to reflash to stock ROM. Thanks to all of you!
no problem man
Well I would like to get another software because the orange software is pretty much the worst one you can get.
I’ve been trying to update from wm6 to wm 6.1 but I had to hard reset my phone many times cause whenever I try to flash the rom, I get that white screen that stay at 0% during the whole process to finally see an error not on the devise but well from the software (running on vista).
Please help!!!!!!
few things to remember befoe u do anything to ur phone:
1) read kaiser wiki
2) from wiki follow links on how to flash hardspl on to ur device.
3) go to kaiser rom development forum and read the first sticky containing info about flashing.
flashing hardspl will cid and sim unlock ur device.
Plz do read and search or u will mess up ur toy.
isn't there an issue with flashing orange ones something to do wit the radio and not to change it? I want to flash mine but the wiki isn't too clear on orange versions
doesn't matter what stock rom u have, once hardspl'ed u can flash any rom/radio u want to ur device.
just make sure radio works w/rom u flash. alot of chefs include radios w/their roms and ones that don'zt will tell u which radio works with rom
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isn't there an issue with flashing orange ones something to do wit the radio and not to change it? I want to flash mine but the wiki isn't too clear on orange versions
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I've flashed my Orange TyTN II with no problems. So long as it is unlocked to all networks it should be OK. However if you do it then your warranty goes out the window.
Run HardSPL first
Once it is installed, double-check that it is installed by doing the folowing:
Power off and then press power on while keeping camera pressed, this will enter the so called bootloader mode and you see a tri-color screen (Red, Green, Blue). You should see "SPL-1.0 OliPof" on the second line in the top left corner. You can exit this mode by means of a "soft reset": press the reset button with the stylus.
If it does not say "SPL-1.0 OliPof" then HardSPL is NOT installed.
Once HardSPL is installed you can then run jockyw2001's unlocker to unlock the phone to all networks.
Then you can flash ROMS like there's no tomorrow!
nice walkthrough mate what's the differences between the roms just peoples personal customisations? is there a huge difference from the orange version?
the chefs cook whatever they want into the different roms..basically just personal stuff or needs...so read what posts and see which one fits u most...if not...try some out and see which one u like...
Narfy, go over to read this thread ... it is one man's story of getting his Orange unlocked and 'sorted'
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386089
With an happy ending
Ok having problems trying to unlock my orange tytn2. Hard SPL is installed, Step 1 of the kaiser simunlocker has been done and verified. Following the instructions, I have reset the phone to boot screen and went to step 2, step 2 of course is a command and in xp this closes as soon as you open it. Have went to command prompt to run step 2 and it gives an error about unable to connect to usb: cannot connect to \\.WCEUSBSH001
Anyone any ideas am now stuck lol.
please ignore sorted now helps when you actually read forums lol
Uhh......yea......I was trying to upgrade my Rom to Dutty's Diamond V1 Build 19588. I was using the instructions from Flash-Your-Tilt . I got to Step 4 CID-Unlock it installed 100% rebooted and then nothing. Now the phone will only play the intro with no sound, then go black. It shows in the lower right hand R 1.70.02iNex, G25.65.30, D1.62.00.00. The phone will allow me to do a hard reset but after it it goes through the intro with screen alignment and installs the extra apps, it reboots and then goes black. I did a ton of reading through the wiki's if someone could point me in the right direction or tell me if its toast, it would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Be strong. I think it's only bricked when you can't power it on.
I have a poor net connection and not time atm. So a suggestion if you haven't already, search the forum for the word bricked. I'm sure this has happened before..
There are several tricks that people know so you might be ok. good luck.
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Uhh......yea......I was trying to upgrade my Rom to Dutty's Diamond V1 Build 19588. I was using the instructions from Flash-Your-Tilt . I got to Step 4 CID-Unlock it installed 100% rebooted and then nothing. Now the phone will only play the intro with no sound, then go black. It shows in the lower right hand R 1.70.02iNex, G25.65.30, D1.62.00.00. The phone will allow me to do a hard reset but after it it goes through the intro with screen alignment and installs the extra apps, it reboots and then goes black. I did a ton of reading through the wiki's if someone could point me in the right direction or tell me if its toast, it would be much appreciated.
Thanks
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Flash an OEM Rom/Radio Combo. Also it wont hurt if you already CID unlocked to to go ahead and flash a new SPL to it. Should fix any and all issues as your phone is still actually booting and Not bricked
Installing windows the 6.1 ROM from HTC's site worked. Thank you very much for the great advice. If I wanted to now put Dutty's ROM on my phone can I go straight to that, or do I need to restart the whole ROM flashing process(installing Jump SPL, Hard SPL and CID) ?
If you have unlocked it, just put duttys onto the SD card and rename the .nbh to KAISIMG.nbh
Put the phone into bootloader and install Its the fastest most successful method. No worry about a data cable coming out mid flash ( happened once to me....not fun )
Shouldnt have to install hardspl again ( or use JumpSPL )
Just make sure that if you are installing a WM6.0 rom that you have a WM6.0 radio. If not, the flashing process for the radio is the same ( rename to KAISIMG.nbh )
Is there a way to see if I the hard SPL install and CID unlock worked ? Can I just restart the whole process regardless. Sorry for the noob questions.
Calihoe said:
Is there a way to see if I the hard SPL install and CID unlock worked ? Can I just restart the whole process regardless. Sorry for the noob questions.
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Go into bootloader. If your screen says hardspl somewhere near the top then you're good to go. Check which version because you can have radio problems if you use a WM6.0 spl with a WM6.1 rom. Most recent roms are WM6.1 so try HardSPL 3.29 or higher.
If you don't have hardspl, get it here for wm6.0 roms or here for wm6.1 roms.
many thanks, your advice with the links were invaluable. I read and read and read, but i guess i did not read enough. This site rocks.
Hello guys,
I am having serious issues with my HD, and the best solution is to send it back to be repaird, or trow it away...
F.Y.I. the problem is screen going black, or without backlight, or not starting quick, and continuing black.. or the infamous "MICROP FIRMWARE MISMATCH"
To make it a bit worse, I bought it second hand, and I have to prey that the phone is not 2 years old... (guess to be seing in the sticker info on stock number, or part number...).
So... I had a lot of fun in this forum, installing HSPL, and diferent roms.., and guess.., I have to put everything back to original to try to get it fixed.
First, I will show what the info on the Phone is..
R 1.13.25.24
G 52.62.25.34U
D 1.56.47501
BLACK100 32M
SPL-1.56 OLINEX
My questions (and I guess lots of people's question too) are:
1) How to downgrade my SPL to an "official" one
2) Which one could that be (number)
3) Which official rom to use (number), to make it matching SPL.. MUST BE AN WM 6.1
4) Is my radio version "stock"?
5) can I flash Stock rom, and then AFTER stock SPL? to avoid to have to use USPL to flash stock rom after..
6) Does the Stock rom comes with its own radio?
Requests
1)Dummie capable help
2)Where to find stock SPL'S for this phone.
3)Some link to tutorials HOW TO...flash stock SPL
4)Link to downloads to WM 6.1 stock rom (HTC Support doesn,t have them, only upgrades). Dutch should be the languaje, but if not, WWE should do...
5) Where to get some luck...
I know its a lot what I am asking, but, after hours of looking arround, and lots of tabs on my explorer, I am just confused..., and believe that many people are in the same situation.
I have ony seeing upgrade guides, but not yet an downgrade guide sticking nowhere, and ways of dealing with manufacturer due hardware problems, and I mean, the way to set your phone back to standar, or the proper way to back up everything before we make it "really user friendly", which, acording to manufacturer, is ILEGAL,
Everybody's reply's will be trully apreciated
Well, I found the "STOCK" rom on the HTC site.
It has already the radio included.
RUU_BlackStone_HTC_NLD_1.56.404.1_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.13.25.24_Ship
For everybody's info, the only way to download it, is by filling the Serial number of the phone (behind the battery) in the HTC Website(support).
It was an unlocked phone, so, I choosed EU version, and after filling the serial number, gave me automatic.. Dutch languaje (good enough to send it to Service).
So, I guess that if you want to change the lenguaje of your phone on an official rom, and is not possible with your phone serial, you will just have to request it.
I just flashed it with SPL 1.56 OLINEX, and he just won't start..., just have to let him rest couple of hours, or try to start it tomorrow (vibrates after 1 minute, and wont start), so, If everything goes ok, .. stock SPL, and "send it back"
This might be helpful: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431217.
First you have to sure what was your original SPL version, and Radio version.
Good luck.
I flashed thesame rom when I had to send my phone back to claim warranty. I use spl 1.14. My phone was repaired for free so I think I did it right ^^
edit: just follow the guide philrom posted anf you'll be fine . The stock rom you flashed already includes a (stock) radio, so after flashing spl 1.14 our phone is good to go
1.14... and will be ok for warranty.... so, 1.14 will be
Apreciate the info, let's hope that service will do their job, so I can go back to WM 6.5!! , and off course custom roms..
Again, tks. I will let you know how everithing turned out.
Juan