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wondered if anyone had any good things to say about this software, ive made a few calls on it while at the house, had to use my home wifi cause im out in the boonies.
i dont like that it auto starts after a boot up.
but if there was an easier way to use Google Talk from these phones, i wish i could find it.
Dogbyte said:
wondered if anyone had any good things to say about this software, ive made a few calls on it while at the house, had to use my home wifi cause im out in the boonies.
i dont like that it auto starts after a boot up.
but if there was an easier way to use Google Talk from these phones, i wish i could find it.
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I have Fring, but really haven't made any voip calls on it yet (other than the test call). I did use it for IM, but I think palringo or MunduIM are better for that. You can set it to not auto-start after a bootup - under the Menu option, it's Settings > Disable Autostart.
do those other two IM apps support VoIP? or are they IM only?
Palringo doesn't do voip, but it has a feature like push-to-talk, wherein if you're im'ing with another palringo user, you push a button and talk and they'll get the instant voice message. It's cool, but I don't really know anyone with Palringo so I never use that. Mundu doesn't have voip to my knowledge.
I use fring an it works great, but!!.... the sound of the otherside is comming through the speaker and not via the earpiece. Thats not the biggest deal, but when the sound comes via the speaker, the otherside hears echo from it self.
The headset fixes this issue..
Dogbyte said:
wondered if anyone had any good things to say about this software, ive made a few calls on it while at the house, had to use my home wifi cause im out in the boonies.
i dont like that it auto starts after a boot up.
but if there was an easier way to use Google Talk from these phones, i wish i could find it.
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Sorry to bring this bac kfrom the dead, lol. But you can disable autostart by simply pressing menu > Settings > Disable autostart, from within FRING itself.
snooginsguy said:
Palringo doesn't do voip, but it has a feature like push-to-talk, wherein if you're im'ing with another palringo user, you push a button and talk and they'll get the instant voice message. It's cool, but I don't really know anyone with Palringo so I never use that. Mundu doesn't have voip to my knowledge.
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You can also use that with AIM users and it sends them a sound clip of what you said.
Hi all,
everytime I launch Fring, my Tytn's sounds became low and I've to set it again.
Anyone have the same issue?
Thanks
muccamucca said:
Hi all,
everytime I launch Fring, my Tytn's sounds became low and I've to set it again.
Anyone have the same issue?
Thanks
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That's just because Fring lowers the volume for the call. Turning the call volume up in Fring during a call will increase the system volume too.
Sorry if wrong area, can someone point me to where I can get the AIM program for my tilt? I did a clean install and didn't want the bloatware, and of course that meant the AIM wasn't installed. I would like that one part back on the tilt.
IM+ is supposedly the best utility. However you have to pay for a license so I don't really know I don't think it's worth it.
I hate IM+. Slick is way better, plus it's free.
kareem9nba said:
I hate IM+. Slick is way better, plus it's free.
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Never heard of Slick.....
http://www.lonelycatgames.com/?app=slick
tdusen said:
http://www.lonelycatgames.com/?app=slick
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does it support AIM Logging? Thanks
redsrule2500 said:
IM+ is supposedly the best utility. However you have to pay for a license so I don't really know I don't think it's worth it.
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I bought it. Sucks if you use AIM. Takes FOREVER to connect sometimes. Says it fails the connection.
starstreak said:
I bought it. Sucks if you use AIM. Takes FOREVER to connect sometimes. Says it fails the connection.
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Well that sucks....get your $$ back!!
Anyone know what it could be? Have you tried Slick?
Tried Slick some time ago. Felt the same way like starstreak about the AIM release for WM6.
it's built in a cheap way and u can't even enter messages with the jog wheel.
I tried IM+ as well but since that cost money I downloaded slick after the trial ended.
slick is quite ok..easy to handle and it has everything a good chat program should have.
The only thing that I didn't like that much was the design...but who cares if it works better than the original AIM
ATT Tilt IM CAB
I think this is what ya want...
The problem with OZ is that it uses SMS instead of data. So it's only good if you have an unlimited SMS plan.
Thanks, I'll try it once I get home.
Yes, that is true, but if it allows me to connect on the first try, then that is fine. I'm already paying $4.99 for 700text and I don't get that many sms messages so this should be fine as a backup.
UPDATE: Oh slap me! I switch to tmobile. lol. The AIM program works only on the ATT network. Does anybody have something that will work on the TILT with the T-Mobile network?
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Thanks, I'll try it once I get home.
Yes, that is true, but if it allows me to connect on the first try, then that is fine. I'm already paying $4.99 for 700text and I don't get that many sms messages so this should be fine as a backup.
UPDATE: Oh slap me! I switch to tmobile. lol. The AIM program works only on the ATT network. Does anybody have something that will work on the TILT with the T-Mobile network?
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AIM sign-on, sign-off and refresh buddy list use SMS messages too. Use it as your own risk.
I am using the older version of Agile and I like it (the latest version is not a freeware anymore).
yuck i'd only do a data-only AIM and just find a wi-fi hotspot.
missing the point. the IM+ seems to fail alot for the AIM. I need something that I can connect quickly and disconnect when done.
I use Agile. No issues whatsoever.
You can also get palringo which is a freeware. Works well. This is what I used before getting Agile.
Palringo Download
jb
why pay
as someone posted before.. THIS LINK!
http://www.lonelycatgames.com/?app=slick
thats best IM app I tried so far.. tried every single one yo all mentioned THEY ALL SUCKED
this slick is sick sick sick ! just crashes sometimes not sure why.. just quits with no error
but its quick and got way more settings then other free ones.. could use bit more but I'm not complaining
if anyone figures out crashing part.. hit me up..
thanks
I <3 Agile Messenger been using since beta, it lets you use the pointless ptt button (pointless for me anyway) and send voice links thru whatever messenger your using. It also doesn't disconnect you when your in a phone call which most others seem to do.
http://agilemessenger.com
thanks for all the other suggestions. Since I paid for the IM+ I really didn't want to give money to another unless I HAD to. Yes, I did try the IM+ before buying, and it did work when I used it. Just there are times when it won't AIM connect for like 5mins for no reason. At least with the sms AIM, I know I can send out in case the IM+ don't work.
ENABLE BACK CAMERA FOR VIDEOCALL ON AT&T 8925 TILT
It is possible to do? Do I need some registry hack?
btw:
-My service provider has 3g videocall enabled, so I can use it to receive videocall but I cannot send my own view.
-I have reflashed my 8925 with an Tytn rom (the dialer has the video button)
Thanks for your help!
5 (FIVE) months passed and no replies???
somebody in the whole world have done this?
please help!
what is the point of video calling if you cannot see the other person..?
and the answer is no, can't be done
hm..
not for nothin... but how are you gonna see the other person if you've got the back of your phone facing you...
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not for nothin... but how are you gonna see the other person if you've got the back of your phone facing you...
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LOL, the other half wants to know what he's doing at all times.
P1Tater said:
LOL, the other half wants to know what he's doing at all times.
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lol...
In all seriousness.. you can check this out and see if it's what you are looking for
http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/
now the wifey can keep tabs on your whenever she wants.
ericmcintire said:
not for nothin... but how are you gonna see the other person if you've got the back of your phone facing you...
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Simple solution: stand in front of a mirror
snoopyrph said:
Simple solution: stand in front of a mirror
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...without the phone
meanvulcan said:
...without the phone
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use the back camera and stand in front of a mirror so you can see other person on your screen. Think about it, it would work but little silly though
Hold on I'm going to move to the back of the phone so you can see me now.
snoopyrph said:
use the back camera and stand in front of a mirror so you can see other person on your screen. Think about it, it would work but little silly though
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Ya, I gotcha brother. I was being sarcastic...
lcohen999 said:
what is the point of video calling if you cannot see the other person..?
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You missed the point.
There are times where you need to show something other than your face to other caller. Eg. Showing an engineer re the machine damage, etc. This is where the back camera comes in handy. Yes, you can take picture then send as MMS but if there're multiple things to show it's just not as convinient as using video call.
Easy solution!
Sell ur tilt on ebay, use money to buy a real htc kaiser. Ta da, now u can use video call the way its supposed to be used on ur phone. Wasnt that easy now?
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Hold on I'm going to move to the back of the phone so you can see me now.
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Why would you do that? think man...use mirror reflection with the back camera. Use your imagination
My point is, I wish to know if it is possible to TRANSMIT VIDEO with a At&T Tilt, no matter what kind...just transmit the video to the other person during a call using 3G. There must be some registry hack to do this!...Pof, Olipro, Sleuth255: Tilt users need your help here!
leomandelbrot said:
My point is, I wish to know if it is possible to TRANSMIT VIDEO with a At&T Tilt, no matter what kind...just transmit the video to the other person during a call using 3G. There must be some registry hack to do this!...Pof, Olipro, Sleuth255: Tilt users need your help here!
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There is a way to do this.. with my hermes (imate jasjam with front facing cam) in video calls you could go to options and switch to back camera.. I cant test it for you now cuz i'm in the US but heading overseas in mid june and pretty sure it can be done..
Great idea
I think that feature is good to have on the AT&T Tilt. Its a good idea to use the back camera with a lower resolution offcourse. Is it possible?
leomandelbrot said:
My point is, I wish to know if it is possible to TRANSMIT VIDEO with a At&T Tilt, no matter what kind...just transmit the video to the other person during a call using 3G. There must be some registry hack to do this!...Pof, Olipro, Sleuth255: Tilt users need your help here!
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if you have dialer with video call and options like HTC dialer you can go to the option and turn the camera from the front to the rear one.. i think with this way you have video call on tilt
leomandelbrot said:
5 (FIVE) months passed and no replies???
somebody in the whole world have done this?
please help!
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If you want the provider-supported videocalls then of course currently it can NOT be done (although in theory I would say it shouldn't be any problem just to force the use of rear camera in a small resolution and route it for videocalls, that should work for as long as you have 3G connection).
But
you can always use it for videocalls using other web-based communication apps, the only "problem" is that the other person have to use them too...
There was Microsoft Portrait - I had excellent videocalls using my old iPAQ 6515's and TYTN "rear" cameras; it even support connection to NetMeeting on your PC and that way I could i.e. have a peek whats going on at home (when PC's NM is set correctly you can enable it to autoanswer etc) Skype worked too; I bet bunch of other apps works that way too, and they probably work great - I can admit that i.e. MS Portrait had better video and audio than when using my provider's 3G videocalls.
The only problems are that i.e. MS Portrait is very picky about the cameras (i.e. it doesn't recognize the camera in last version of iPAQ6515 while it did in the previous model) or Skype fiddles with their app so often and so much that it is hard to even say which one works on which phone (there are versions that I don't even had sound over wifi on TYTN II, not to mention old iPAQ...)
So, if you want videocalls - and not necessarily through your usually crappy provider - there are plenty of options... you just won't see yourself or the other person when youre using the "rear' camera, thats all.
viluve said:
You missed the point.
There are times where you need to show something other than your face to other caller. Eg. Showing an engineer re the machine damage, etc. This is where the back camera comes in handy. Yes, you can take picture then send as MMS but if there're multiple things to show it's just not as convinient as using video call.
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leomandelbrot said:
My point is, I wish to know if it is possible to TRANSMIT VIDEO with a At&T Tilt, no matter what kind...just transmit the video to the other person during a call using 3G. There must be some registry hack to do this!...Pof, Olipro, Sleuth255: Tilt users need your help here!
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I have done this using webcamera plus: provided the necessary ports are open and the windows xp/vista software is installed, put the receiver's ip address on your pocket pc part of the software and you will be transmitting video with either camera.
anyone use this at all, from the time that i upgraded my rom, even when i first got my phone w/ the oem tilt rom, it has not worked. I changed the settings on my phone because initially the internet wasn't working, but not it works fine, i'm using palingro...but i at least want to try the oz because there are some things that bother me about it.
and by the way, i'm connecting using the att network, not wifi...as that is the first thing it says when its having trouble connecting. but honestly, no matter what i change in my phone, i'm still getting the "communication error. please try again or check your settings. IM is not supported over wi-fi connections" error.
any help/ideas?
gotten quite a few views, any input guys?
heya sim,
I use the OZ cab, both stock installed on the phone and installed with custom rom. I have experienced the situation you detail. It seems to happen when I close it down a way it didn't like or do something internet-wise with another program.
Fixing it usually only requires a quick turn off then turn on. It does get annoying sometimes when it happens.
Also I would like to add it doesn't seem very responsive as far as receiving messages goes either. Like sometimes I will get a message on my computer at roughly 12 in the afternoon and will not see it on the phone until after dinner. I have even had a couple experiences where I didn't receive messages until after the program had been restarted.
I will be trying another messaging program soon that doesn't use up messaging on my phone, this is part of what I believe makes it slow is the fact it uses messaging instead of internet.
any recommendations? / questions?
oh great...you mean to tell me that the oz messenger is sms based and not internet based? jeeze...i REALLY dont wanna pay for agile
yes this is what they told me at AT&T, There are a few out there that use internet via data connection (3g, hsdpa, etc.) agile being one of them...isnt it free tho? The same goes for Fring, and i believe IM+ you have to pay for but uses data connection aswell.
Yea, i use the OZ one, but only as a way of checking my current buddy lists in AIM and Yahoo. Its very unreliable for actually carrying a conversation. Also, its very clunky to use if you log into 2 or 3 messengers at once. One of the features about this phone that really made me want it (instant messaging on the go) has been pretty lackluster to me. I have yet to try any different messenger suites yet.
Ill let you both know for sure how the others work in comparison as I intend to try a couple other non sms bases ones
OZ messenger is LAME.. go to Palringo.com from your phone. Download it. Way better and its free push to talk built in.
you guys wont be disappointed with Palringo. You can have your AOL, Google Talk/Jabber, MSM messenger, yahoo. It signs in really quick about 2 seconds, gets all your friends, no drops in connection, Beautiful software and best of all its free.
gqstatus0685 said:
you guys wont be disappointed with Palringo. You can have your AOL, Google Talk/Jabber, MSM messenger, yahoo. It signs in really quick about 2 seconds, gets all your friends, no drops in connection, Beautiful software and best of all its free.
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mine ALWAYS drops my aim connection. i have no idea why. It keeps my google chat online constantly though, but not aim. anybody know of a sms based messenger for aim by any chance?
ok, i guess the problem w/ my messenger was the data package that i had with AT&T, now that i upgraded, i can sign on. only problem is, when i'm online...i'm not really online. it shows that all my buddys are off, when i check on another computer (different SN) if i'm on, its says i'm not. anyone know what the hell this is about? it seems like one problem after another w/ this....
plus i'm using the "OZ_Instant_Messanger_at_t_AKU_0.4.4" cab. thanx in advance
Agile
I have dumped Oz because it is slow to connect at times. At times it connects but it does not tell you so, that is you show up on a buddies computer but your phone still shows that it has not connected. Also, in this case if you quit the program, (stop it from memory) you are still logged on. Added to this is that you get charged for text messages!!
So, I have gone to Agile, which is data only. It connects fine too. It is pricey but it does the job. I am using it on a Treo 750. My service is At&T. It also does PTT etc.
AIM
The AIM client also uses data only and not SMS. So if you do not need the other message servers like Yahoo or MSN or Google etc. then AIM might be a good option. You can find it on this forum.
I had been using the OZ client on a trip earlier this month for the first time - did not care for the SMS integration of it at all. Every time a reply would come in you'd get a system SMS message. I've just installed the Palringo client listed above and it seems to work very well. Thanks for the heads up.
I use slick it's easy and free
yea wish i had read this thread prior to sending those 100 sms messeages at .15 cents each. Wait employee discount! oh **** not for sms. hahaha
gdit at&t!!
gonna check out one of these two you guys mentioned, that oz one does suck
and i have unimited data only.
I really wish I read this before paying for IM+. I like their service but have had a lot of problems lately when I flash roms constantly. Crap like always having to put in my resistration and then saying that my registration number is being used. I would understand if I stole the software but I paid good money for it.
I tried aglie and really like the GUI, but I'm not in the mood to spend that much money for another program.
I just downloaded palringo and from first impression really like it. The only thing I don't like is that it won't keep my always connected. Battery isn't an issue and neither is data.
I hear that. Im waiting and watching for something better.
BTW super rocks!
How about Fring?
freekquency said:
I hear that. Im waiting and watching for something better.
I've had great luck with fring... Use it and if you twitter it has a built in twitter interface that's outside of the normal IM integration, it's pretty slick.
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ChumleyEX said:
I use slick it's easy and free
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same here.. been using it since i first bought my tilt and no complaints to day
I have had this 10 buttons for comm manager cab installed for a while and i find it to be of great use.
..But...I dont know what some of these things do.
1. What is IP Phone?
2. Why doesnt the 3G switch do anything? it always shows as off.
3. What does turning beam on and off do?
4. Ive installed ICS and the modem link switch is cool, but dont i need to hack my phone so verizon doesnt choke me chicken?
5. Why is it when i click to turn on Direct Push, active sync opens?
Thanks and sandwiches,
*Darth Groper*
Are U Serious??
YL Groper said:
I have had this 10 buttons for comm manager cab installed for a while and i find it to be of great use.
..But...I dont know what some of these things do.
1. What is IP Phone?
2. Why doesnt the 3G switch do anything? it always shows as off.
3. What does turning beam on and off do?
4. Ive installed ICS and the modem link switch is cool, but dont i need to hack my phone so verizon doesnt choke me chicken?
5. Why is it when i click to turn on Direct Push, active sync opens?
Thanks and sandwiches,
*Darth Groper*
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Just a couple of small suggestions that may answer your questions.
When u got ur phone and opened the box somewhere in there you should have found the manual. It has great details on what the comm manager buttons do. Now it may not cover all the extra buttons that your cab installed but it will help. Read it.
Google is your friend. Where ever you got the cab file from should have told you who made it. Search on their nick and you should find details on the extra buttons.
....um....are you serious?
BlueAnt1958 said:
Just a couple of small suggestions that may answer your questions.
When u got ur phone and opened the box somewhere in there you should have found the manual. It has great details on what the comm manager buttons do. Now it may not cover all the extra buttons that your cab installed but it will help. Read it.
Google is your friend. Where ever you got the cab file from should have told you who made it. Search on their nick and you should find details on the extra buttons.
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Okay, Less the Microsoft direct push, the touch pro manual would not say how these other buttons function. I only asked because it was on topic. why would beam be in my manual if my phone doesn’t have IR?
Second, if you don’t know the answers don’t say "google it" to feed your superiority trip. I’ve been googling it since the 90's. Ive tried googling "IP Phone" with the touch pro, and found dirt. Ive tried locating the original thread to ask the creator, and cant find it.
So...the manual wont help......Google has nothing....and I can’t find the original thread. So im left with my last option...
...Which is to post in a forum and risk getting chewed on by an ant with a big head (who most likely doesnt know the answers anyway) just to get some insight. Additionally, ive searched this site, and ppcgeeks aswell.
Sure i could have googled beam, but i thought i could get some quick answers all relating to the same subject.
"sure groper, Ip phone is for using your phone as a headset for skype on a pc. Beam is RF, which isnt on your phone. etc..."
"cool man, thanks for making my day easier"
Remember, forums are set up for information and help. I have legitimate questions that ive searched and still need answers. If you don’t want to help, then don’t bother posting.
YL Groper said:
I have had this 10 buttons for comm manager cab installed for a while and i find it to be of great use.
..But...I dont know what some of these things do.
1. What is IP Phone?
2. Why doesnt the 3G switch do anything? it always shows as off.
3. What does turning beam on and off do?
4. Ive installed ICS and the modem link switch is cool, but dont i need to hack my phone so verizon doesnt choke me chicken?
5. Why is it when i click to turn on Direct Push, active sync opens?
Thanks and sandwiches,
*Darth Groper*
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1. Internet Calling I.E. Skype
2. You Have verizion right?
3. Bluetooth.
4. ?
5. Thats kind of self explanatory.
Got another question pertaining to your original questions? Ask, and I will try my best to answer them in this thread.
YL Groper said:
2. Why doesnt the 3G switch do anything? it always shows as off.
3. What does turning beam on and off do?
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2 -> it switches between GSM und UMTS (3G)
3 -> same as Settings -> Connections -> Beam -> Receive all incoming beams.
I think it must be enabled to receive incoming bluetooth beams.
YL Groper said:
I have had this 10 buttons for comm manager cab installed for a while and i find it to be of great use.
..But...I dont know what some of these things do.
1. What is IP Phone?
2. Why doesnt the 3G switch do anything? it always shows as off.
3. What does turning beam on and off do?
4. Ive installed ICS and the modem link switch is cool, but dont i need to hack my phone so verizon doesnt choke me chicken?
5. Why is it when i click to turn on Direct Push, active sync opens?
Thanks and sandwiches,
*Darth Groper*
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1. VOiP (Not for a headset for Skype but actual skype itself)
2. Verizon uses CDMA not 3g, so does not apply to you
3. works with lightsaber.cab and garagedooropener.cab
4. Verizon chokes chickens? Sounds like a personal issue. If it's that big of a deal I'd look into a proxy or something, not sure if that would help
5. If you needed Direct Push you would know the answer or have an IT guy to ask. Of which I are neither
Sandwich please!!!
On a sidenote, there are alot better comm managers out there might want to look into the Raphael CDMA threads for stuff that people use with Verizon and the Touch Pro. GSM devices such as ATT and Tmobile are different hardware wise then those of verizon and sprint(?) which use CDMA as radio frequencies. Hope this helps
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3. works with lightsaber.cab and garagedooropener.cab
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Thats funny.
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Thats funny.
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so what's the correct answer? It does not switch on BT, at least not in my ROM...
thats sounds like the comm manager I want...were did you find it at?
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so what's the correct answer? It does not switch on BT, at least not in my ROM...
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on mine it does, rc3
Geez Louise
YL Groper said:
Okay, Less the Microsoft direct push, the touch pro manual would not say how these other buttons function. I only asked because it was on topic. why would beam be in my manual if my phone doesn’t have IR?
Second, if you don’t know the answers don’t say "google it" to feed your superiority trip. I’ve been googling it since the 90's. Ive tried googling "IP Phone" with the touch pro, and found dirt. Ive tried locating the original thread to ask the creator, and cant find it.
So...the manual wont help......Google has nothing....and I can’t find the original thread. So im left with my last option...
...Which is to post in a forum and risk getting chewed on by an ant with a big head (who most likely doesnt know the answers anyway) just to get some insight. Additionally, ive searched this site, and ppcgeeks aswell.
Sure i could have googled beam, but i thought i could get some quick answers all relating to the same subject.
"sure groper, Ip phone is for using your phone as a headset for skype on a pc. Beam is RF, which isnt on your phone. etc..."
"cool man, thanks for making my day easier"
Remember, forums are set up for information and help. I have legitimate questions that ive searched and still need answers. If you don’t want to help, then don’t bother posting.
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So you got a cab from someone that you cannot trace. You then loaded it to your $1,000.00 phone without knowing what all the functions are.
Now you are giving me grief because I suggested (in an attempt to help you help yourself) that you google for the cab or the guy who made it as most of the software developers on XDA usually give information on what their software does.
Your response was pretty much what I expected and why I did not give you the direct answers. You want to be molly coddled and fed fairy floss, call HTC. They will at least pretend to give a ****.
KD8DNS said:
on mine it does, rc3
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I'm using RC3, too, but have a look at the screenshot.
I only touched "Beam"...
You can't receave files via Bluetooth if you disable Beam, don't know why this thing is still there, I think it comes from the times of IR.