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I had been experiencing a lot of dropped calls and this horrible buzzing noise through my bluetooth, so I exchanged my 8125 through Cingular's XBM process. I sat down this morning to upgrade my ROM on the new phone and noticed that I have:
ROM version: 2.25.11.1 WWE
ROM Date: 5/11/06
Radio Version: 02.25.11
Protocol version: 4.1.13.12
ExtROM version: 2.25.11.102
I have heard rumors that with this ROM you unable to upgrade to any other ROM, has anyone else heard this?
If anyone is interested in this ROM please pm me and let me know. I have never uploaded a ROM to this site though so I will need someone to explain what I need to do.
It looks like you have the G4 chip. Youre not going to be able to change your rom unless you unlock the CID. and to do that you're going to need to pay a site to do that.
They don't have any programs as of now that can unlock a G4 chip CID.
gluck
Thanks for the info! That sucks, but still thanks for letting me know.
WAIT!!!!!
You didn't give enough info to determine your flash chip version.
Look at the IPL/SPL versions (have to reset and look in the upper left of screen).
If they look like 2.25 then you have G3...
If they look like 2.25.001 then you have G4.
Being as that you have a new phone and you can't install the official Cingular (HTC) update maybe you should ***** to Cingular...
Please don't take that the wrong way as I meant no harm! But you probably have the G4 chip and possibly it won't work with the HTC "official" update....
We need to put the ball in Cingular's court. How is the average person going to react to this? I think that person would return the device and possiblty switch to another provider, and why not?
Just my 2 cents worth ...
can someone put me up to speed about this "official HTC update" business? i just got my 8125 and just found out its a G3 from the advice above. so what are my advantages / disadvantages and where can i find this update? thanksabillion
Am I wrong in that you can go into the Device Information (Start -> Settings -> System) to determine which chip you have as well? Right now with the 1.8 ROM, mine says M-Systems G3 as well.
Dr Puttingham said:
Being as that you have a new phone and you can't install the official Cingular (HTC) update maybe you should ***** to Cingular...
Please don't take that the wrong way as I meant no harm! But you probably have the G4 chip and possibly it won't work with the HTC "official" update....
We need to put the ball in Cingular's court. How is the average person going to react to this? I think that person would return the device and possiblty switch to another provider, and why not?
Just my 2 cents worth ...
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sk0t said:
Am I wrong in that you can go into the Device Information (Start -> Settings -> System) to determine which chip you have as well? Right now with the 1.8 ROM, mine says M-Systems G3 as well.
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No offense taken. From what I understand I have the official Cingular (HTC) update on the phone I received via XBM. The only real problem that I thought I may have, was not being able to update in the future if something else came along. The Flash chip type that is showing in device info is simply M-Systems (doesn't say whether or not it's G3 or G4) and the IPL/SPL is 2.25 rather than 2.25.001, so by this assume (which I hate to do) that I have the G3 and not the G4. I have not tried to CID unlock as of yet, spent more time than what I wanted today installing all other apps just to get everything going.
As far as returning the phone, I am an agent manager for Cingular and got a pretty decent deal on my 8125, after selling my treo 650, and have a rate plan that . . . let's say would be impossible to match with any other wireless provider. Speaking of the average person though, I don't beleive the average person would be upgrading the ROM on their phone as the majority of people these days are carrying RAZR's; (Ahhh the sheep) and most don't have the luxury of returning their equipment outside their buyer's remorse time period, due not being able to drop $175 per line for liquidation damages. I do however appreciate your honesty and point of veiw though.
I agree on the average person (read sheepeople) ...
In your situation I would take the plunge and CID and SIM unlock it and retry again. Actually I'd downgrade to the Button 1.05, copy EnableRapi to the device and execute it, run the Lokiwiz unlock on the CID and SIM (verifying that the program reports that it was successful. The Lokiwiz program will soft reset the phone after each of those two steps if it was successful.
Good luck!
Dr Puttingham said:
I agree on the average person (read sheepeople) ...
In your situation I would take the plunge and CID and SIM unlock it and retry again. Actually I'd downgrade to the Button 1.05, copy EnableRapi to the device and execute it, run the Lokiwiz unlock on the CID and SIM (verifying that the program reports that it was successful. The Lokiwiz program will soft reset the phone after each of those two steps if it was successful.
Good luck!
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This is pretty much what I had decided to do, I will have to wait a few days before I get it done as my schedule this week is pretty hectic. I will let you know how it goes. Thanks again for your advice.
I have reflashed the ROM on my TyTN II to the HTC Windows 6.1 version downloaded from their site. Everything works OK, except the phone will not accept incoming calls and i am unable to make calls out. Since this the unit has been reflashed with approx 5 different ROM's from Duttys Series (Which i had on when i purchased the unit) but it still has the same issue. It has also now had a different radio version put on and the SPL reflashed. Even after all this it still says no to incoming or outgoing calls. The strange thing is, that it does register on Vodafones network and i get a full signal, but no 3G. The unit is not locked as i have run an unlocker on it as well. I can send text messages OK.
Please can anyone help me with this problem, i am completley out of ideas and unable to use my phone.
Cheers.
Is the Camera working? I know that the tilt has many radios, could it be that you just need to try more of them?
Yes the camera worksfine.
I have tried a few different radios but knowing which one is the correct one is going to be tricky.
Do you know where i can get more of these?
Thanks
Have you tried disabling 3G (force GSM)?
Unfortunatley 3G dosen't seem to be available anyway. (Don'tknow if this is compunding the problem).
I have tried it on GSM but still no luck.
Don't know if the ROM info below will help:
R 1.58.16.27
G 25.61.30.03H
D 3.14.00.00
I have spoken to HTC and they said i need to send it for repair, but i would rather sort it myself. They wont even tell me if it is in warranty!!
ahanson said:
Unfortunatley 3G dosen't seem to be available anyway. (Don'tknow if this is compunding the problem).
I have tried it on GSM but still no luck.
Don't know if the ROM info below will help:
R 1.58.16.27
G 25.61.30.03H
D 3.14.00.00
I have spoken to HTC and they said i need to send it for repair, but i would rather sort it myself. They wont even tell me if it is in warranty!!
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well to be honest with you, that radio you are using won't work with the rom available on HTC website. Just saying.
I thought the rom they provide is accompanied with a radio?
try 1.65.20.29 or 1.65.16.25 or 1.65.17.56
Thanks.
I will give them a go.
also after you flash the radio and you do not have any service go into comm manager and make sure airplane mode is off.
You may want to upgrade your hardspl version as well to 3.28, 3.29, or 3.56
Good luck
OK, next, and probably final, installment.
Have tried flashing to a hard SPL and changing the ROM and Radio to various versions but it still fails.
I have now flashed it back to stock HTC settings as shown below:
ROM 3.28.405.0 WWE
Radio 1.65.17.56
Protocol 25.83.40.02H
Soft SPL 3.28.0000
I have checked the CID and it is a Super CID (all zero's).
I have tried the radios you guys recommended but all in vain.
I have also tried another providers SIM (O2), and the unit would not find the network and register.
I have spoken to Vodafone UK and they say my unit is not barred or blocked in any way (My SIM works in other phones).
I believe i have now come to the end of what i can try.
Does anyone have any other ideas before i turn my TyTN II into a very expensive paper weight.
Thanks.
That radio isn't stock.
You should not be attempting to flash anything without hardspl installed. But you must have hardspl installed if you purchased it with dutty's rom already on it.
Hold down camera button and insert stylus at the same time then report back with what it states on the tri color screen.
On the tr colour screen it reports:
KAIS130
SPL-3.28.0000
CPLD-8
Does anyone know if the information supplied below is correct, as i am still having major issues.
On the tri colour screen it reports:
KAIS130
SPL-3.28.0000
CPLD-8
Thanks
OK, i have taken some advice and flashed a HardSPL to the unit.
Since then i have flashed a couple of Duttys ROM's (The unit came with Dutty's) but it's still not able to make or recieve calls.
I think i should try and send it back to HTC for them to have a look.
Does anyone have any experience with HTC?
Thanks
Exactly which of Dutty's ROMs are you running now? And what radio version have you flashed? If you have a ROM/Radio combo that are compatible with each other and still cannot make calls, then it looks like you will need to send the phone in for service.
Before sending the phone in, be sure to follow the steps outlined in the Reverting SPL for Warranty thread prior to shipping it. HTC will check your SPL and ROM version, and if they are not OEM standards, you will be charged for the repair and lose the remainder of your warranty.
Thanks for all your help NotATreoFan.
The unit has been repaired by HTC under warranty. They have repalced the main board in the unit, and it now works fine.
Thanks
ahanson said:
Thanks for all your help NotATreoFan.
The unit has been repaired by HTC under warranty. They have repalced the main board in the unit, and it now works fine.
Thanks
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You are most welcome.
I got me a Touch Diamond in the rounder shape of the T-Mobile MDA Compact IV. It came in a sealed box from eBay and I've used unlocking software that I also found on eBay. As it turns out, this software seems to originate from this forum.
As far as I've researched it, right after the lock was removed, the phone started sending SMS messages to the number SMS032837 each time it is reset (since I've never used this phone locked it *could* have done this already, but I doubt it). Even if I switch off the GSM radio, and then reset, the phone waits for the radio to come back on and immedately sends a message.
I have no clue to what's the message is about or whoever is the recipiant but that's not the main issue here; it should not do this, period.
ROM: 1.37.110.3
Radio: 1.20.OliNex
Protocol: 52.26a.25.09U
Anyone any idea what is going on?
TIA,
XDArjen
sorry i dont have any idea
try this steps
1-try hard reset
if not work
2- you have an old ROM so
upgrade it to the latest ROM for your country or use cooked ROM if you want
Could a program similar to RemoteTracker be installed on your Diamond ?
That would explain the SMS, as the software detects that you changed the SIM card.
yea sounds like some program like remotetracker, try flashing a new ROM, as i assume it's build into the ROM by the seller, no idea why though.
xdarjen said:
I got me a Touch Diamond in the rounder shape of the T-Mobile MDA Compact IV. It came in a sealed box from eBay and I've used unlocking software that I also found on eBay. As it turns out, this software seems to originate from this forum.
As far as I've researched it, right after the lock was removed, the phone started sending SMS messages to the number SMS032837 each time it is reset (since I've never used this phone locked it *could* have done this already, but I doubt it). Even if I switch off the GSM radio, and then reset, the phone waits for the radio to come back on and immedately sends a message.
I have no clue to what's the message is about or whoever is the recipiant but that's not the main issue here; it should not do this, period.
ROM: 1.37.110.3
Radio: 1.20.OliNex
Protocol: 52.26a.25.09U
Anyone any idea what is going on?
TIA,
XDArjen
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Hi,
I`ve got MDA Compact IV on T-Mobile UK with original ROM and Radio (I just need to) and I`ve noticed that after every re-boot it sends above mentioned by you text.
Actually, it sends 2 texts: 1st to 32837 (on the on-line bill it`s clasified as
"unbranded" and it`s free of any charge)
2nd to 100203005 (clasified as "SMS text messaging" and it is also free).
I was surprised as well, so started to investigate.
I`ve found that above texts got something to do with W`n Walk service and T-Mobile My Faves and they are like a system messages.
They are NOT using any of the tariff allowances and they are completely free.
I`m sure because I`m checking my bill very carefully every month and it is my 3rd bill since I started using Compact IV.
I think that every HTC Diamond and MDA Compact IV sends those texts when logging into GSM Networks, but not every network provider shows them on their bills. With T-Mobile it shows on My T-Mobile On-Line account, but not on any paper or electronic bill.
There is more info about the case on other forums, just "google" them numbers and you will find it.
So, DON`T PANIC, everything is in order.
P.S.
My handset is unlocked and I was using foreign SIM card with, whilst on holiday and I haven`t noticed any extra charges for above texts, nor any other problem.
Regards.
snark_be said:
Could a program similar to RemoteTracker be installed on your Diamond ?
That would explain the SMS, as the software detects that you changed the SIM card.
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Hey snark_be,
I'm not sure, it's a brand new T-Mobile that I got in a sealed box. The owner got it as an upgrade but didn't want it. So it came locked to T-Mobile and I had to unlock it since I'm not a T-Mobile customer.
Could T-Mobile be using this tracking method? The seller of the unlocker could have added it, I don't know, he hasn't answered my email (yet).
The SMS goes anytime the device boots, not just after inserting the SIM.
HTC ROM upgrade site rejects my serial number if I want to download a new ROM.
Addicteddddd said:
yea sounds like some program like remotetracker, try flashing a new ROM, as i assume it's build into the ROM by the seller, no idea why though.
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That was the plan, but that seem's a bit of a hornet's nest. Can I assume safely that the T-Mobile is a true HTC Touch Diamond? Will I be able to return to non-brick if something doesn't work? I mean when I install Hard-SPL first (it's installed already by the unlocker, but an older version, like 1.24)?
kowalsky_tom said:
Hi,
I think that every HTC Diamond and MDA Compact IV sends those texts when logging into GSM Networks, but not every network provider shows them on their bills. With T-Mobile it shows on My T-Mobile On-Line account, but not on any paper or electronic bill.
Regards.
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Tom, they show up on my bill, so I have to pay for them. And my provider logs them as International calls.
I don't have the luxury of sitting idle because it make the device useless as a phone. I will peruse the forum about this matter but I was already planning upgrading the ROM as I find the device very unresponsive.
have a look in the rom section here and install a new one
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That was the plan, but that seem's a bit of a hornet's nest. Can I assume safely that the T-Mobile is a true HTC Touch Diamond? Will I be able to return to non-brick if something doesn't work? I mean when I install Hard-SPL first (it's installed already by the unlocker, but an older version, like 1.24)?
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Just flash the latest HardSPL, 1.93 I think, and then head over to the Diamond Wiki and download/flash the newest WWE ROM you find (1.94 I think).
I have a T-Mobile branded Diamond that has a hardware fault (no USB connection, short battery life and overheating).
I managed to flash it back to the original T-Mobile ROM, but forgot about the SPL, so T-Mobile are refusing to repair under warranty.
And now it's ended up bricked whilst I was trying to put the SPL back to normal too.
So with T-Mobile as a no go option, what are people's experiences dealing directly with HTC over warranty, as surely they can't deny responsibility just because someone chooses to change software versions?
Why not figure it out to unbrick then load all the original spl and rom on it and take it back to them, like a few days later.. If they say something like.. 'you already bought this in with diff software' ... say...'proove it, bullsh*t, now get your manager!' enough arguing and threats always work imo.
That was exactly my thought, get the right SPL back on there and then deny I had ever changed anything (which I what I've said to them so far).
But the problem is that I am stuck on the bootloader (showing the new non-T-mobile SPL of course) with no way of flashing anything else into it due to the dead USB...
updated to new version, i get an error message "Phone Model Not Found" 'My Account application is designed only for T-Mobile Android supported phones. We're working on a solution for unsupported phones.'. is anyone getting this? my phone is rooted and running Cyanogen ROM. called TMobile and they could not resolve this issue.
Try removing app reboot and reinstalling? Haven't heard of this problem and mine works fine..
Same issue CM 3.9.2
i called TMO and they told me to uninstall and reinstall. same problem. I didn't have the guts to tell the Tmo rep that my phone was rooted...so they could not resolve this issue..though my friend who works for TMo says they don't care if your phone is rooted...i might just give them a call tomorrow again..
Umm, not reccomended, I talked to a customer svc rep on my 4th warranty swap and to try to bypass all t he retarded troubleshooting told him id reverted it back to rc 29 to try to fix it.... he took that to mean id rootesd it and started the process of voiding my warranty... :-((( I immeadeatly asked to speak to a supervisor and told him id only reloaded the stock rc29 rom and that in no way an official firmware should touch my warranty he aggreed and told me they'd be explicitly checking my phone for 3rd party mods..... I wasn't an happy panda....
On another incident I spoke to a much cooler rep and mentioned installing an app id found here on xda, he immeadeatly warned me 3rd party mods void my warranty and I clarified by saying it was only an application not a ROM....
Maybe I get the dickheads or my call center is just on the watch for it or what I had a t-mo store assoc. Tell me that no software ROMS firmware etc could void the warranty, only hard mods eg. Opening the phone
This problem is discussed extensively in this thread along with some potential fixes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542317
i got this to work.
ESKIMOn00b said:
Maybe I get the dickheads or my call center is just on the watch for it or what I had a t-mo store assoc. Tell me that no software ROMS firmware etc could void the warranty, only hard mods eg. Opening the phone
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Throw them off their game by asking which Primus article or Streamline path indicates that a flashed ROM will void your warranty. Seriously - I know of no such policy. Of course, maybe I'm just to generous. You tell me what I want to hear and I'll send out a phone (assuming I know it not to be a stupid problem like no memory left on a blackberry, etc)...
But seriously I keep hearing on forums like this people talk about voiding your warranty with rooting, but I don't see anything in policy. I'd like to know if anyone has ever been charged the $100 OOW fee due to a rooted phone?