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Is IE unusable on the kaiser with the bug i hear about? I usually use the joypad for scrolling down, is it still the same?
Compared to the Hermes, how fast is the Kaiser at building pages up? On any big pages (eg. ebay) the Hermes really grinds to a snails pace and even when you think it's finished if you scroll down it's still (slowly) inserting images. Sometimes it can take nearly 60secs to finish showing an eBay page.
cheers, John
Which bug?
I use PIE with PIEPlus 2.2 and it works fine.
It is slow though, compared to my old Magician WM2003SE But thats obvious (WM2003SE is not flash based OS, no persistent-memory, thats why faster).
I am waiting Opera Mobile 9, which I am not sure will ever be released!
Duke Nukem Forever
I don't notice any difference with the Hermes. What bug are you talking about exactly?
By the by: opera mini beta 4 runs great on the Kaiser.
johnk1973 said:
Is IE unusable on the kaiser with the bug i hear about? I usually use the joypad for scrolling down, is it still the same?
Compared to the Hermes, how fast is the Kaiser at building pages up? On any big pages (eg. ebay) the Hermes really grinds to a snails pace and even when you think it's finished if you scroll down it's still (slowly) inserting images. Sometimes it can take nearly 60secs to finish showing an eBay page.
cheers, John
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johnk1973 said:
Is IE unusable on the kaiser with the bug i hear about? I usually use the joypad for scrolling down, is it still the same?
Compared to the Hermes, how fast is the Kaiser at building pages up? On any big pages (eg. ebay) the Hermes really grinds to a snails pace and even when you think it's finished if you scroll down it's still (slowly) inserting images. Sometimes it can take nearly 60secs to finish showing an eBay page.
cheers, John
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Yes it works, but the scrolling gets laggy once you have scrolled down a bit. The page download times are probably on a par with the TyTn. The Touchflo finger scrolling works better (once you get the hang of it).
Opera Mini works faster and scrolls OK.
Mike
Im not having any issues with PIE in general and I'm already getting used to the scroll feature. In fact I picked up my Trinity today and found it annoying when I had to use those fiddly scroll bars.
I wonder how it compares to the experience on the new iPod Touch?
I heard from a friend that the browsing experience on that was very intuitive - but then he is an apple nerd!
My bigger issue with the Tytn II is still the radio used. I am having real problems with the gprs/3G switch and both phone and internet connection have major problems coping when I am in 1 or 2 bars of 3G.
And I am still rarely getting a full 3G signal which was not the probelm with the later radios I have on my Tytn and Trinity.
I will try my Vodafone SIM tomorrow and see if it makes a difference.
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you read my mind
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"What ya waitin for Christmas"
Mike
mikechannon said:
Yes it works, but the scrolling gets laggy once you have scrolled down a bit.
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this is the bug i was talking/hearing about.
With the extra power and extra chips I was hoping the page building issue would have truly gone, it's my biggest gripe with my Hermes. My other gripe was the poor video playback on my Hermes (which has improved thanks to many WM6 roms), I hear this hasn't improved much either. I think I'll wait until a new ROM or a new device...
Touchflo doesnt work with my installation of Opera Mobile (8.60). Would have thought there would be 20 million threads on it by now so am thinking its just me with the issue.
Is touchflo something that has to be written into third party software of should it would with anything?
Opera Mini is the Java version correct?
New ROM will not fix that because it will be still the same IE.
IE is just slow, that's all.
Try Opera Mini and enjoy the super fast browsing experience.
You will never look back to IE, trust me.
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this is the bug i was talking/hearing about.
With the extra power and extra chips I was hoping the page building issue would have truly gone, it's my biggest gripe with my Hermes. My other gripe was the poor video playback on my Hermes (which has improved thanks to many WM6 roms), I hear this hasn't improved much either. I think I'll wait until a new ROM or a new device...
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Yes, Opera Mini is a Java application.
But it is running fine and superb.
Here what I got it installed in my device:
1. Install JBED-JAVA_MIDLET_MANAGER.2007.08.02.2.1
Get it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=49222&d=1188897204
2. Use IE and browse to mini.opera.com/beta
And follow the instruction to install it.
Note: Choose "High memory" version.
You are done.
Now, read this article below :
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
You will be able to:
1. Make a shortcut to the "Programs" folder
Then using the "Settings->Button" you can change the IE softkey to execute this shortcut.
2. Get rid of the network security warning.
That's it
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Touchflo doesnt work with my installation of Opera Mobile (8.60). Would have thought there would be 20 million threads on it by now so am thinking its just me with the issue.
Is touchflo something that has to be written into third party software of should it would with anything?
Opera Mini is the Java version correct?
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Phew! Took a bit of work, but worth it
All thats left is for it to be set as the default browser and take links from emails.
Cheers for that buddy.
The shortcut part just doesn't work for me. I use Esmertec and my shortcut based on what I see in the appsdb folder is
#30"\windows\jeodek.exe" -run s3_
Whatever I do it gives me the message - Could not find MIDlet suite s3_
The file in appsdb is s3_suite.jar. Even still, I tried from number s0_ to s3_ to no avail.
Hope somebody can help.
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Yes, Opera Mini is a Java application.
But it is running fine and superb.
Here what I got it installed in my device:
1. Install JBED-JAVA_MIDLET_MANAGER.2007.08.02.2.1
Get it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=49222&d=1188897204
2. Use IE and browse to mini.opera.com/beta
And follow the instruction to install it.
Note: Choose "High memory" version.
You are done.
Now, read this article below :
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
You will be able to:
1. Make a shortcut to the "Programs" folder
Then using the "Settings->Button" you can change the IE softkey to execute this shortcut.
2. Get rid of the network security warning.
That's it
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I get that same error - unable to find Suite 0 or 1 or whatever I put in.
Also the change in the selector file has my OperaMini still asking for permission. Any suggestions????
Thanks
Guys, I'm still getting the permission warnings as some other Opera 4 users are describing. I have done everything in this post including the selector.utf file. Has anyone figured out what might be causing this?
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Guys, I'm still getting the permission warnings as some other Opera 4 users are describing. I have done everything in this post including the selector.utf file. Has anyone figured out what might be causing this?
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i could only get it to work witn Cloudyfa's JBed, not with the default JMM.
I finally got it to work with Cloudyfa's JBed. For some reason, JBed wasn't installed properly. It wasn't showing up and Remove Programs. I reinstalled it, reinstalled Opera, applied the shortcut/network warning fix, and all is working perfectly.
For other people having this problem, make sure JBed is showing up in the Programs list and in Remove Programs before you install Opera. Seemed to do the trick.
I will be doing all of this tonight, Thanks for the tips.
Same here, I too get the error message could not find suite s0_. The number is correct, but i noticed i dont have any .jar files in the appdb folder... Any ideas?
I also didn't have any .jar files in my appdb folder. I did see some files with s2_ extensions (eg. s2_.jah and _s2.obj) so I changed my suite link to s2_ and it worked. Once I got the link to work, I then copied the selector.utf file from appdb to my PC and ran the Fix.exe editor on it and copied it back to the Kaiser. Works perfectly with no more permission dialog, thanks so much for sharing!
My squence;
1-Install Jbed
2-Install Opera Mini and test to verify it works.
3-Create link in programs folder and test
4-Copy off selector.utf and "fix", copy back and it should all be good, with no more permissions required.
5-Map the program link to a hard key.
6-Crack a cold beverage of choice, life is good
does anyone else have the problem of the OSK popping up all the time? I had Opera Mobil installed and when going to the imported PIE favorites it came up every time I scrolled through the list as each time a new favorite was selected the coursor bounced between the URL bar and the shortcut...
It was so annoying I had to stop using Opera as I found no way to stop it. It also does it in PIE but not near as much... it comes up automatically when I hit a text box ...same for SMS and email....
Any way to get this stopped?
nobody else having this problem?
I have now seen the issue on 3 Tilts... it is tied to the first time you use the on screen keyboard ... from that point forward everytime you hit a text box, it comes up. for SMS, email and MMS that is ok but when looking at bookmarks in Opera Mobile it is very annoying since it constantly pops up as one scrolls down through the list.
Anyone have an idea of where the OSK registry keys are?
solution found!
I contacted HTC via AT&T (ya I know I loose cool points for doing such a thing) but hey the support was excellent and they provided a workaround in about 10 minutes. It is not clear what is actually triggering this but the solution works as I verified it in SMS, Word and Opera Mobile.
Solution:
Go into Mobile Word, slide out the keyboard. this shoud make the OSK dissapear. hit the space bar one time and ok out of word. slide in the keyboard and test your applications for the OSK popping up every time you hit a text box....it no longer happens but the problem may return the next time you decide to actually use the OSK so repeat the process when necessary.
I have the same problem - I hate that every time a text box appears on anything, the OSK appears even when the keyboard is slid out. It's infuriating in Opera.
Your trick doesn't seem to work for me. When I run Word, the OSK doesn't seem to appear ever, even when the keyboard is closed.
I wish there were a reghack or something to ONLY show OSK when I hit the icon on the bottom.
I have similar problem in Opera Mobile. I'm using WM 6.1 and the similar problem was found with WM5 and 6 as well, so I think it is something to do with version of Opera Mobile. Mine is 9.0 build 331.
for what it's worth, ive had the same problem with WM 6.0 and 6.1 when using MyMobiler to display my phone on my computer screen (i switch between skyfire and PIE as my browser. never used opera mobile). if im going to be using the phone in 'tilt' mode for any amount of time (ie, like when it is plugged into my computer), i had to install null keyboard and use it as my primary OSK. not the best solution, but it will keep the OSK from popping up all the time.
I updraded to Opera Mobile 9.5 and it is okay now
Just like I feared.
http://www.operamini.com/beta/
suppose to load pages up to 50% faster. Auto suggests URL completions and new search feature. Also lets you save web pages to view offline and manages uploads and downloads from and to your phone.
Edit: testing now will report back tomorrow.
Thanks.
Testing now. It seems to be nice
Simply amazing
Using it right now and I must say it is freaking super-fast at page rendering!! I love this browser. Makes me love my Kaiser all over again....great job Opera!!
Which one did you guys download, the JAR or JAD? What's the difference?
Is pretty damn fast.
Browser is kick ass and lightning fast, i did notice a bug though. When entering an web address, you cant backspace. You have to open up the entire text input box by selecting 'insert symbol' in the drop down to correct yourself. Other than that, I didnt notice any bugs. this seems good enough to consider this my main browser, at least for now. Microsoft, Skyfire, and Netfront will have their hands full with this version
I'm using this browser for now. It's quick!
which java is everyone using?
I saw this post this morning and have been using it all day. WOW! It's the fastest broswer I've seen on WM. The only problem I've had is that it can't do drop down list, which is a problem when you visit boards like i do. Other than that, it's amazing.
Wow... crazy fast. Very nice work to the people at Opera. <Golf clap>
Man, that's a sweet find. Super fast.
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Man, that's a sweet find. Super fast.
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Maybe thats why my opera's been crashing...maybe not.
Edit:It actually sucks. It keeps freezing and giving me a white page.
Edit 2: Wow, now even 4.0 crashes...this sucks.
Just tried opera mini 4.1 on my HTC Touch. The browsing is VERY fast, but I've had opera mobile 9.5 for a day, and I have to say it's the best thing out there.
Seems to be about the same speed as 4.0 for me, maybe a tad faster with a few more options to choose from. I like it just for the extra options, no real speed diference here. using udk's 4/1/08 rom, i think its just basic midlet manager thats included in the rom thats running the java apps.
I cant figure out how to install it
The good, this version adds the option of not asking for network connection promission everytime it access the internet with out any hacks.
The bad, when entering the web address URL, there's no option for the software keyboard to pop up. If I use quick menu to open the the software keyboard (TouchPal) the last key I input repeats itself such as the dot and the space.
Aftering installing 4.1, I managed to open 4.0 and 41 at the same time. I thought this version allow 2 java apps open at once but I could never repeat it again.
WOW!!
This is fast as hell.
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The good, this version adds the option of not asking for network connection promission everytime it access the internet with out any hacks.
The bad, when entering the web address URL, there's no option for the software keyboard to pop up. If I use quick menu to open the the software keyboard (TouchPal) the last key I input repeats itself such as the dot and the space.
Aftering installing 4.1, I managed to open 4.0 and 41 at the same time. I thought this version allow 2 java apps open at once but I could never repeat it again.
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when you're entering new address, tap that bar and select the 'insert a symbol' option... it takes you to the old text field and you can type or write...
This Opera Mini version rocks so hard!!
image if it could handle ajax, scripts, flash and flashvideo... it would be amazing...
problems 'connecting to the internet'
Sometimes i get the 'cannot connect to the internet' message and sometimes I ca connect. I am using a french SFR operator with the 'illimitix' subscription (full and ilimited internet acces over a wap sort of connexion). Anybody has this problem? What to do?
JSR-75
Hi everyone,
I tested this new version it's very fast (how could the people from opera do to improve the display speed ?) !
But in the list of features, i saw the possibility to save a web pages, but unfortunately it doesn't work on my kaiser.
I need to installe something else ? (JSR-75 ?). I use the JBED java executor,
build 200708xxx
Help !
thanx
In opera browser the screen rotates very rarely or at all , I mean is not very responsive ( the G sensor ) ... but in Pictures instantly when I rotate the phone so is the picture... what do you guys think?
i got the same problem...
any1 got a clue what could be/ how to solve this?
another one reports here,
same problem, works great in Pictures, but in opera it is as slow as hell....
Had similar problem today, which led me to recalibration of Gsensor. After that i ran the Opera browser, and screen rotated much faster than before. Hope it helps...
Edit: noticed that screen rotation response is also better and faster in Photos/Album too...
done that still no joy
At the beginning I wait until the page is loaded and then rotate. It is not so responsive in the middle of the page loading process...i can live with that...
Did you guyzz try the latest Opera version?
everytime i rotate the phone... opera rotates and the phone goes back to home screen... i have to go back into opera via task manager, and its back on portrait again...
I'm having this problem too, and it's bugging the hell out of me. I've calibrated the g-sensor, but it's still not working very well. I have Opera 1938 and SwiftBL V6.0 ROM. I don't use GSEN.
To make rotation work somewhat, I have to "snap" the Diamond from straight portrait to straight landscape. I can't have it slightly tilted away from me, like I would if I had it in my lap or on a table. However, with the Diamonds image browser it works fine, which makes me think that the problem lies within Opera.
I've tried using the tweak setting long-press home button to manually rotate screen, but this kicks me out of Opera and into TF3D. In SMS it works fine, though.
Teeter works great though, and that again makes me think that it's mostly a bad integration/calibration of the g-sensor in Opera that's the problem, eg. not very calibrated tresholds for rotation.
So we have to wait for a proper version of Opera.
the rendering of a webpage is very cpu intensive action, everything has to be recomputed for small display. if you change resolution (ie. rotate diamond) in the middle of the loading the page, it's bit too much for little diamond. just wait till the loading of the page finishes, and then rotating works ok. it can't be much better...
This is happening to me too (Telus version) but it only recently started happening. As soon as I rotate the screen - whether the page is fully loaded or not - it brings me to the Phone screen. I've accidently called people a couple times due to this so it's a bit frustrating.
I'm going to try hard resetting my phone and then slowly install applications and tweaks to see if I can figure out what's causing it.
I have this issue as well...I think Opera ios just trying to do too much....loading a page and rotn at the same time. After a while it seems to work better....I still think they have a long way to go to make this programe bug free and reliable
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This is happening to me too (Telus version) but it only recently started happening. As soon as I rotate the screen - whether the page is fully loaded or not - it brings me to the Phone screen. I've accidently called people a couple times due to this so it's a bit frustrating.
I'm going to try hard resetting my phone and then slowly install applications and tweaks to see if I can figure out what's causing it.
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Same thing happens to me, on the same ROM.
Did you get any result doing this? I have the Telus ROM too and this is very annoying.
I have tried using GSen with the rom before, but uninstalled it. No change.
The only thing I suspect may interfere could be that I mapped a Long Key Press for screen rotation in apps like Inbox. I will try unmapping and post the results here.
I don't know how TouchFlo is integrated to the OS, but I wonder if manually changing the orientation of the screen somehow affects other components that could become "out of sync" with the current orientation... Could it be related to the version of one component? Looks like GSen does not work properly with Telus ROMS.
at least your opera get to go lanscape. When mine try to do landscape, it somehow open up the phone dialer and i get kicked out of Opera. Anyone know what this happens? Keeping it in portrait mode is fine, but the second i rotate it, it halts the program and open up phone dialer for no apparent reason!!
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at least your opera get to go lanscape. When mine try to do landscape, it somehow open up the phone dialer and i get kicked out of Opera. Anyone know what this happens? Keeping it in portrait mode is fine, but the second i rotate it, it halts the program and open up phone dialer for no apparent reason!!
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lude I was havving that problem too. I made a reg edit that helped with the phone dialer popping up on the touch and it seems to have helped me
i think it s HKLM>SOFTWARE>MICROSOFT>SHELL
I then set ShowTitleBarClock to 2
hope that helps
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lude I was havving that problem too. I made a reg edit that helped with the phone dialer popping up on the touch and it seems to have helped me
i think it s HKLM>SOFTWARE>MICROSOFT>SHELL
I then set ShowTitleBarClock to 2
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It works!.....but then it covers up my battery meter
I'm not sure what would show the battery icon....I use ariel battery metter
...same problem here...
(Telus)
Same as mine.
Rotation speed in Opera seems not real working when the phone rotated for vertical / horizontal orientation. I am wondering memory size whether it can support changes in high resolution display.
See whether it has upgrade version to speed up the function.
I encountered a problem with my HTC Tilt today. I was playing around deciding if I like it more with or without touchflo running, and later in the day I installed that Task Manager 3.1 program (which seems very handy BTW) and that is when I noticed that when I am in the "programs" or "settings" windows, the way to scroll by dragging the screen has changed. Before, I would just click anywhere and drag with the stylus and it would scroll. Now, I have to like tap and drag it, and it'll continue scrolling non-stop until I tap on the screen again. The same thing happens in internet explorer. Other programs such as Opera browser is unaffected.
The interesting thing is that drag-scrolling with my finger has improved dramatically, and works great, but not with the stylus.
Can anyone help me get it back to the way it was before?
I'm a bit noobie to these gadgets, but I'll catch on.
edit: the scrolling with the stylus works fine if you drag the scroll bar.
This phone is awesome, but the one complaint I do have is that the phone speaker volume isn't very loud... it needs more ooomph.
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I encountered a problem with my HTC Tilt today. I was playing around deciding if I like it more with or without touchflo running, and later in the day I installed that Task Manager 3.1 program (which seems very handy BTW) and that is when I noticed that when I am in the "programs" or "settings" windows, the way to scroll by dragging the screen has changed. Before, I would just click anywhere and drag with the stylus and it would scroll. Now, I have to like tap and drag it, and it'll continue scrolling non-stop until I tap on the screen again. The same thing happens in internet explorer. Other programs such as Opera browser is unaffected.
The interesting thing is that drag-scrolling with my finger has improved dramatically, and works great, but not with the stylus.
Can anyone help me get it back to the way it was before?
I'm a bit noobie to these gadgets, but I'll catch on.
edit: the scrolling with the stylus works fine if you drag the scroll bar.
This phone is awesome, but the one complaint I do have is that the phone speaker volume isn't very loud... it needs more ooomph.
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i'm not certain if the installation of Task Manager 3.1 would have had adverse affects on the way that drag scrolling works...
for starters, you should know that some applications like opera mobile 8.65 and opera mobile 9.5 betas as well as resco explorer and lots more applications implement THEIR OWN drag scrolling logic.
next, you should know that HTC's touchflo, from the day it was introduced (with the HTC Touch) all the way up to the latest incarnations of TF2D (manila2d) and TF3D, is capable of "hooking" in to the Windows Mobile interface elements (scroll areas, etc) to provide drag scrolling behavior. however, it is nowhere near as good as the custom drag scrolling logic implemented in the applications mentioned in the previous paragraph.
finally, you should know that if you have TF2D (manila2d), there are TWO ways to get to your Programs window. Start->Programs will launch the Windows Mobile native program browser (where the cumbersome "hooked" touchflo behavior works) while launching the Programs listing by pressing the "All Programs" softkey from the Programs Tab will launch a custom program browser that looks and feels EXACTLY like the native Windows Mobile program browser. In the latter case, you will notice much much better drag scrolling.
i think the HTC uses the same approach as mentioned above for the Settings window.
make sure you are not getting confused by the above mentioned differences in your debugging and assessments.
another thing to check would be whether or not you altered the touchflo sensitivity parameters (try KaiserTweak to mess with those settings).