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I had BBC 4.0.0.67 working on my 8525, and a couple of days ago bought the HTC Tytn II (Kaiser). On initial startup, using the SIM from my 8525, the Tytn II set up my AT&T data connection. Phone calls and 3G internet surfing worked fine. The Tytn set my data connection to use isp.cingular and I added the wap.cingular connection. I use the wap.cingular connection.
I first tried Blackberry connect 4.0.0.90 which would not connect to the BB server even though I had a good 3G internet connection. I spent an hour on the phone with AT&T who finally said it was a Blackberry problem and they transferred me to Blackberry. I spent an hour on the phone with them, and they concluded it was AT&T. Blackberry support transferred me back to AT&T. The AT&T manager basically said: we don't support a non AT&T phone on Blackberry...and we don't support blackberry connect. I will point out everyone was very nice throughout this over 2 hour ordeal.
So I removed BBC .90, cleaned out all traces, and reloaded the 4(1).0.0.84 AT&T Tilt version from the HTC America site: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327695
and surprise, everything works perfectly on 3G and Edge. Blackberry BES for my work exchange email (synching email, calendar, contacts, and notes) and BIS for my personal email accounts. The Blackberry web browser also works fine.
At my firm I have the option to install BBC or Good. I have Good running but I'm wondering about BBC. Does it work like Good in that there is a separate application running that you need to open for mail/calendar/contacts, and it's not integrated into the native apps? Or is it like using a blackberry where everything is integrated. Thanks!
It's fully integrated into the native apps. BBC creates WM6 mail accounts for my exchange email and personal email accounts, the contacts are in the WM6 standard contacts database, and the appointments are in the standard calendar. All of these (except personal email) are bi-directionally syncronized with my exchange server.
do you have an AT&T blackberry data plan?
Yes. blackberry unlimited
Just one more question - for the corporate email, can you add an attachment to an email that is stored on the mobile unit?
caleymac said:
It's fully integrated into the native apps. BBC creates WM6 mail accounts for my exchange email and personal email accounts, the contacts are in the WM6 standard contacts database, and the appointments are in the standard calendar. All of these (except personal email) are bi-directionally syncronized with my exchange server.
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I read this in an article which is what prompted me to ask. What the article is describing sounds like Good, where it's a separate application.... "The new BlackBerry application suite will complement existing Windows Mobile 6 functionality and will appear as an icon on the screen, in the same manner as other third-party applications. Clicking the icon will prompt a suite of BlackBerry applications, including push e-mail functionality, calendar, address book and others, to load. "
Can one run both the Outlook and the Blackberry connect in the same device (Kaiser) at the same time?
Also, I attempted to install BB connect and I was prompted to first disable my password. I could not find a way to do that without first eliminating the Outlook connection to the Exchange server. Is there another way?
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I read this in an article which is what prompted me to ask. What the article is describing sounds like Good, where it's a separate application.... "The new BlackBerry application suite will complement existing Windows Mobile 6 functionality and will appear as an icon on the screen, in the same manner as other third-party applications. Clicking the icon will prompt a suite of BlackBerry applications, including push e-mail functionality, calendar, address book and others, to load. "
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My guess is the author was not familiar with the WM6 environment. There is a BB icon in settings and on the bottom of the today screen, but it brings up the bbc configuraton utility. The apps are fully integrated in the native wm6 apps.
michalopoulosgk said:
Can one run both the Outlook and the Blackberry connect in the same device (Kaiser) at the same time?
Also, I attempted to install BB connect and I was prompted to first disable my password. I could not find a way to do that without first eliminating the Outlook connection to the Exchange server. Is there another way?
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If you use BBC to synch contacts, appointments, notes, and tasks, you cannot also synch them via activesynch/WMDC or exchange sync. It's one method or the other. I have not set up a POP account on my Tytn because I have all my personal POP email go through the Blackberry Internet Service (BIS).
I'm not sure if you can exchange sync email and use BBC for email too.
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Just one more question - for the corporate email, can you add an attachment to an email that is stored on the mobile unit?
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Yes, but it seems like you are limited to 32K or smaller.
So, here's the deal. I also got this to work on my second day of having my TyTN II. I called AT&T and tricked them into thinking I had purchased an unlocked BB from a dealer and they switched me over to the BB Unlimited plan so I could use BES to connect to my corp email. I installed the PC software, and the handheld SW. And got everything working. It started downloading all my emails, inbox and sent. I chose not to sync my calendar until I confirmed it worked.
BUT...
Something very strange happened. Basically, it went thru my calendar, saw all my meetings that were on my calendar for the last week and in the future and started to RESEND ALL THE MEETING INVITES AS IF THEY WERE FROM ME.
So, if I had a meeting that I was invited to next week, along with 3 others. It sent out a meeting invitation through my email to the other 3 participants (excluding the original meeting organizer) and sent it as if I was the meeting organizer. So I ended up with duplicate meetings on my calendar, and it duplicated everyone else's calendar. So people had 2 meeting ivntes, one from me, and one from the original organizer.
Needless to say, this was a big problem. Fortunately, i cuaght it before it went thru my entire calendar, but ti still managed to send out about 40 meetings invites, some to large groups of people!
I immediately removed the BBC software and switched my plan back.
I don't know why it happened. I can't explain it. Has anyone else who gets the new Kaiser-compatible BBC installed had this issue? Or did it work as expected?
I would prefer to get BBC working, but I can't risk having that happen again!
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So, here's the deal. I also got this to work on my second day of having my TyTN II. I called AT&T and tricked them into thinking I had purchased an unlocked BB from a dealer and they switched me over to the BB Unlimited plan so I could use BES to connect to my corp email. I installed the PC software, and the handheld SW. And got everything working. It started downloading all my emails, inbox and sent. I chose not to sync my calendar until I confirmed it worked.
BUT...
Something very strange happened. Basically, it went thru my calendar, saw all my meetings that were on my calendar for the last week and in the future and started to RESEND ALL THE MEETING INVITES AS IF THEY WERE FROM ME.
So, if I had a meeting that I was invited to next week, along with 3 others. It sent out a meeting invitation through my email to the other 3 participants (excluding the original meeting organizer) and sent it as if I was the meeting organizer. So I ended up with duplicate meetings on my calendar, and it duplicated everyone else's calendar. So people had 2 meeting ivntes, one from me, and one from the original organizer.
Needless to say, this was a big problem. Fortunately, i cuaght it before it went thru my entire calendar, but ti still managed to send out about 40 meetings invites, some to large groups of people!
I immediately removed the BBC software and switched my plan back.
I don't know why it happened. I can't explain it. Has anyone else who gets the new Kaiser-compatible BBC installed had this issue? Or did it work as expected?
I would prefer to get BBC working, but I can't risk having that happen again!
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That is very strange. BBC works great on mine and setup without issue.
GREAT news!!! since AT&T has not oficially released the "tilt" I'm assuming that you're using and HTC branded Kaiser, are you using the original ROM or did you Flash witht he AT&T ROM?
I'm eagerly awaiting for the delivery of my Kaiser
Thanks
Vinny
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GREAT news!!! since AT&T has not oficially released the "tilt" I'm assuming that you're using and HTC branded Kaiser, are you using the original ROM or did you Flash witht he AT&T ROM?
I'm eagerly awaiting for the delivery of my Kaiser
Thanks
Vinny
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I am using the original rom that came on the device. It took less than 5 minutes to set up.
Ditto. OEM ROM.
Has anyone used this on Tmobile? I know BB connect works on the Dash, but not on the Wing and I would hate to drop that much money to find out that it doesn't work with Tmobile.
Thanks for responding, I hope this holds true with other carrier than AT&T, I expect to have my kaiser within the next week or so, I'm in Mexico and my carrier is Telcel, I will report back as soon as I try this.
Cheers
Vinny
That's great that it was so easy to set up and use.
One question though....I have been using BbConnect on my 8525 for a while now, and always have difficulty accessing things such as Cellular Video or XM Radio or MobiTV through the Bb unlimited data plan. Usually aI have to disconnect the BB Connect service to access those.
Do you know if these services/apps work with the unlocked Tytn II and Blackberry Connect?
Thanks!
I have gotten BBC to work and I am generally pleased with it except the 32k limit sucks.
I have a couple questions that I'm wondering if anyone else has figured out.
First, my work email shows up in a folder called "Desktop" which is different that the general "Outlook Email" folder. Why is there a difference?
Also, when sending meeting invitations, I don't have the option to use the work (i.e., "Desktop") account, only the Outlook Email account which is not connected. Any ideas how to remedy this?
Thanks!
I am using goodlink on my TILT and when i go to send an sms it doesnt pull my goodlink contacts only my sim contacts.. any clue how to access goodlink contacts for sms?
The Windows Mobile OS will only pull up the native contact list. If you are using ver 5 of GoodLink you can get the GoodLink server IT admin guys to be sure that the one way (that is from GoodLink to your native contacts) is enabled on your phone.
According to GoodLink literature the reason for this functionality is just for this reason and for things like Voice Command (or other voice dialers) that also use the native contact list. In this case the OS uses the native contact list for SMS msgs
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I am using goodlink on my TILT and when i go to send an sms it doesnt pull my goodlink contacts only my sim contacts.. any clue how to access goodlink contacts for sms?
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Quick question .. how did you get goodlink on your tilt...my restore from backup method did not seem to work. Did you do an OTA install?
EDIT: See my solution posted below
What version of Goodlink are you running?
Do you know if your admin guys have upgraded to ver 5?
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What version of Goodlink are you running?
Do you know if your admin guys have upgraded to ver 5?
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Just figured it out ... problem was I had goodlink on my 8525 too (which as of about 20 mins ago, when the fedex guy got here, is being retired), and I could only have it on one device at a time. Once I figured that out, just got a new PIN for the Tilt and it seems to be running the OTA provisioning without a problem.
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What version of Goodlink are you running?
Do you know if your admin guys have upgraded to ver 5?
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Mine pushed out 4.9.3.21 and it's working just fine...
I got our admin guys to upgrade to 5.0 then upgraded (it automatically loaded it). It looks a little different to 4.93. its not that much of a big deal except you get a nice RSS and the ability to make a calendar appointment private (finally). BUT admin gets to see all the apps you have on your Kaiser and they can lock anything out! you can also get your admin ppl to allow good contacts to be used for native lookup (phone, sms etc.) but it didnt seem to function as well as activesyncing contacts (it doesnt show company name - in fact it doesnt sync company name and you end up with lots of UNNAMED contacts).
I also had a couple of issues on the install becuase Activesync forces you to add a password and Good doesnt like this when it installs. tyherefore in the end i did it via ahard reset.
All in all, its a luittle better. im testing it for stability before they roll it out to thers where I work.
Please report back on the experience - It would be great to know how things work before I try an push for the upgrade as well.
How well does that RSS work, and is it only set up on the phone, or does it sync with your Outlook acct? (ie - is it a box in your exchange account like the native rss support in Outlook 2007)
Good vs. BBC
I have used goodlink for years starting on my treo 650 then my trusty (kind of) 8525. The whole separate contacts thing really annoyed me so when I got my tilt I switched to, dare I say, blackberry connect. As opposed to using separate software to manage the calendar and contacts, it uses the built in wm apps so the contacts issue goes away. Just something to think about if you have the option to use either one...
Does anyone have Windows Live working correctly on their Tilt or TyTn II????
UPDATE 01/15/2008
Ok I am resurrecting this issue as I still can not get any version of Windows Live to run reliably on my Tilt! Does anyone have a .cab install of WL (any version) that pushes Hotmail consistently????
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I have been trying to get Windows Live working on my Tilt for the past 72 hours and I am totally stumped.
I have been able to sync my email, contacts and even log on to messenger, but for some reason Windows Live keeps getting stuck in the Checking Internet connectivity step on the sync screen. When I soft reset my Tilt, WL will keep saying Checking Internet connectivity until I force a send and receive. It then throws up a sync error (with no error message), but appears to successfully sync. Then it sometimes pushes email as it should for a few minutes, but then gets stuck in Checking Internet connectivity again.
I had this issue running the stock HTC ROM and austinsync's BigStorage w/ PIE fix ROM on my Tilt. I have used the At&t connection settings from HTC Connection Setup tool both Media Net (w/ and w/ out Proxy) and ISP.Cingular. I have also used a Cingular Network Cab file that I used with my 8525.
All other applications are getting internet connections no problem (including Live Search - the mapping program).
I have tried messing with the GPRS Always on Reg tweaks [ HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-}\Connections\|gprs connection name (my Isp/MediaNet} \AlwaysOn = 1 (DWORD decimal) ] , but that has not fixed the problem.
I have tried WL versions 10.6.0033.600 and 10.6.32.2100 along with whatever version came on the HTC stock ROM.
Does anyone have Windows Live working on their Kaiser??? If so, what Device, ROM, and Carrier are you using??
So no one has Windows Live working correctly on a Kaiser????
I have been using WL version 10.6.0033.600 on my Hermes with no problem at all. I even spent the last hour pouring over the registry of my 8525 and comparing it to the Tilt, but I could really use some help looking for a solution.
mines is working.. I'm using a Kaiser with BigStorage w/ PIE fix ROM with T-mobile service.. It was working with stock rom also.. I've used stock windows live and Windows Live 10.6.32.2100.. both worked fine.
So WL is working fine on T-mobile(US??). I am really starting to think this is an issue with the At&t network/proxy.
Anyone on At&t network have WL working correctly??
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By working correctly, I actually mean Pushing emails as they arrive. I am able to manually pull emails down, but I am trying to get the WL push email functionality working on the Tilt over At&t.
I am using build 10.6.32.2100 on AT&T with a Tilt and everything including push email is working for me. I am running the HTC ROM.
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I am using build 10.6.32.2100 on AT&T with a Tilt and everything including push email is working for me. I am running the HTC ROM.
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Did you use the HTC Connection Setup tool to configure your network settings, or enter them manually? Also, are you using the proxy or is it disabled?
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So WL is working fine on T-mobile(US??). I am really starting to think this is an issue with the At&t network/proxy.
Anyone on At&t network have WL working correctly??
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By working correctly, I actually mean Pushing emails as they arrive. I am able to manually pull emails down, but I am trying to get the WL push email functionality working on the Tilt over At&t.
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If you look through these forums, there's a pretty long thread of people who have issues with their device not waking up to pull down emails.
In short, if you turned off your screen by tapping the side power button (instead of letting the screen turn off on its own), the device will not reliably wake up for either timed email pulls or push email.
I discovered this with push Hotmail - never had a successful push with the device manually hibernated, but push worked fine if the device was on.
I stopped using Windows Live because it had LOTS of issues when the device was in an area with bad/no coverage, it would make my Tilt EXTREMELY sluggish and unresponsive with that little color wheel appearing every few seconds if I had login information recorded and the phone was not in good coverage. Windows Live even pulled the phone out of flight mode to try and make a connection at least once, I wouldn't want that happening on a plane!
I let the network wizard setup the connection but edited the ISP connection to use the wap.cingular access point. Windows Live works for me with either the medianet w/ proxy or the isp connection
Yeah WL is definitely not the most reliable application to begin with, but I finally had it working like a charm with my 8525 runnning vp3G's ROMs.
Now on the Tilt I can't even get it to push email when the device is on and has a full connection.
The fact that WL is constantly stuck in the Checking Internet Connectivity step leads me to believe that there is some issue with WL opening up my Data connection on the Tilt. I have absolutely no issue connecting with PIE or Live Search.
Unfortunately I use Windows Live to manage all my emails and contacts, so I am pretty much stuck with trying to make it work on the Tilt or take it back.
I have the stock rom for the tytn 2, nothing altered, and my WL works without any problems when set as push mail and disdplay as full html format, if using it in hotmail, the ppc will default it to a simplified version.
kms
Windows Live Search working fine on my Tilt reflashed to HTC on ATT
I am also having the problem with it grabbing my email as it comes in.
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Windows Live Search working fine on my Tilt reflashed to HTC on ATT
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same here. no problems.
WL is not even letting me log on! It says my user name or password is incorrect and its not because I checked by logging on in hotmail.com on my desktop.
just to clarify, I am having connection problems with Windows Live, the hotmail/messenger application, NOT Live Search the mapping application available from wls.live.com .
I have been having much better luck with Push email coming through since using the Connection Setup tool again to reset my network settings and disabling the Media Net proxy. Hopefully this keeps up tomorrow.
is it possible to have window live to push FEW email accounts at the same time?
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WL is not even letting me log on! It says my user name or password is incorrect and its not because I checked by logging on in hotmail.com on my desktop.
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is this in the push mail message section, did you set it up manually or automatic?
either way it's won't work, even if you put in all the correct settings. You will need to go into the start/program then click the windows live icon and set up from there and have ticked the sync email, once completed setting, you will need to log into msn messager, then soft reset afterwards.
now window live hotmail should show up in the push mail section.
after many trys and error, i can confirmed it works for me.
hope this helps.
kms
All I did was select the WL icon and then log on.
Im not sure what you mean by sync mail and so on.
Ive done this:
Start > programs > windows live (icon) > clicked on Sign in to Windows Live > Accept user agreement (I do) and then at the screen where I need to input my user and password I get the error about mismatched username and/or password.
The Options and Account options menus are grayed out (not able to select).
I get this error
Sign-in Failure
Either the user name or the password you entered is invalid. Please try again.
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@CorruptedSanity
I metioned this in another thread, but are you sure you have the correct keypad layout?
For example if you have a Tilt and flashed an HTC Rom, your keyboard layout will not match the letters/symbols printed on your keyboard. The same would be true if you flashed a TyTn II with a Tilt Rom. You could check by typing your password into pocket Word and making sure it is correct.
The only other thing I can think of is to make sure your date and time is set correctly. Windows Live has some issues logging on if the date and time on your device do not match the WL Server.
What ROM are you running?
Did not flash my rom! Straight out of the box TyTN II (unlocked).
Ive been typing a whole lot and nothing seems out of place.
How do I know which time WL is on?
How do I check which rom im running?
Anyone know why the hotmail push seems to be spotty to my phone. I will get 2 or 3 in a row, then either go 7-8 messages without receiving them, then all the sudden get them again.. or have to do a reset to get them it seems.
AT&T Tilt with windows live cab installed.
Tried several different versions of the cab, also still have that weird notification bug where it just keeps vibrating til i finally accept that I have a message sometimes.
Anyone ever come up with a fix for any of these?
No permanent solution to this issue has been found yet, however it most likely relates to the issue with the Kaiser not waking up to check email or play reminders.
I would recommend you follow the below thread for updates and try some of the suggested fixes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332362&page=6
I have not been able to get the Live push email working consistently on the Kaiser/Tilt at all. It worked no problem on my Hermes/8525.
Conversation with Windows Live Mobile Tech support
So I am getting really frustrated with my Windows Live Mail not working corretly on my Tilt and I decided to contact MS Tech support to see if there was anything they could recommend.
Below is the convo that I had back and forth with the Support Rep.
Windows Live Push email does not work on my HTC Kaiser Tytn II device.
In order for my Live Hotmail email to sync I have to manually initiate a sync, even though my settings are configured to deliver emails As items arrive. I have tried changing these settings around several times, but it does not make a difference.
Furthermore I receive multiple sync errors often, and most of the times when I delete an email on my device it fails to delete off the server.
I did not have these problems using Windows Live with my HTC Hermes Tytn running Windows Mobile 6.
I have also tried signing out of the Windows Live app and then signing in. I have Hard Reset my device (back to manufacturer default) and still experience the problems. I have also tried with NO 3rd party programs installed and still the push email does not sync correctly.
I have also tried different versions of the Windows Live app that are floating around the internet, such as 10.6.32.2100 and 10.6.33.600. Neither of these newer builds fixed my problem.
Is there a way to fix the issues I am having with Windows Live App push email functionality on the HTC Kaiser Tytn II?
RESPONSE 1
Thank you for contacting Windows Live Mobile Technical Support. My name is Teddy and I understand that you have issues synching your Live Hotmail on your HTC Kaiser Tytn II device. I apologize for the inconvenience. I appreciate the time you have taken to advise us of your experiences and I hope to offer as much assistance as possible.>
We have received reports from other customers experiencing similar contacts synchronization issues. Based on our investigation, this issue occurs when the Windows Live application in the device is having trouble synchronizing with the Messenger servers.
They were able to resolve this issue by doing the steps below:
A. Changing your saved Windows Live Messenger display picture.
Errors appear during synchronization when the server is experiencing difficulty fetching your saved Messenger display picture. To avoid this from happening, let's try to change your display picture to a default picture. To do this:
1. Sign in to Windows Live Messenger using a computer.
2. Change your display picture to a default picture.
3. Try to sign again on your mobile device.
B. Re-synchronize your account.
You may also need to reset your Windows Live account on your Windows Mobile-powered device by signing out and signing in again. To sign out, please refer to the instructions below:
1. On your mobile device, tap "Start" and then select "Windows Live."
2. Tap "Menu" and then "Account Options."
3. Tap "Switch account."
4. You will be prompted to confirm account switching as this action will sign you out of Windows Live, preventing you from seeing your e-mail inbox. Tap "Yes" to continue.
5. You shall be redirected to the Terms of Use screen, an indication that you are already signed out of Windows Live.
To sign back in:
1. Tap "Start" and then select "Windows Live."
3. Tap "Sign in to Windows Live."
4. Tap "Accept" on the Windows Live Terms of Use screen.
5. Enter your MSN or Hotmail e-mail address and its corresponding password.
6. Tap "Next."
7. Choose if you wish to have the Live Search bar or Windows Live services on your device's "Today" screen and tap "Next."
8. Choose of you wish to sync either Contacts and Messenger contact or e-mail (or both) with your mobile device then tap "Next" to continue.
9. Wait as your mobile device syncs with your Windows Live account. Tap "Done" when sync is complete.
10. Open Windows Live Messenger and check if your online contacts now appear as online.
The steps above should help you fix this problem. If the issue persists, we want to continue assisting you until this is resolved.
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Trying both A and B above fixed the issue... until I did a soft reset. Then the same problems returned. So I emailed again and got the below response.
I performed the steps listed in A and B of your email (Changed Display Picture and Switch Accounts). I changed my messenger display picture to No Display Picture and signed out of Windows Live on my Tytn II and then soft reset the phone. After the phone rebooted I signed back into Windows Live.
At first this did seem to fix the problem. All of my emails started coming through (at Push speeds) and I did not encounter any sync errors. However, after I performed a soft reset on the phone, all of my problems started again. Windows Live would show sync status stuck on "Checking Internet Connectivity" even though I have network coverage and can browse the web via PIE. I would have to manually click on the sync button to get syncing started. Emails stopped coming through as push (even though I have delivery set to "As items arrive") and I started receiving sync errors again.
Below are the answers to the questions you asked.
- HTC Tytn II
- Windows Mobile 6
- Carrier: At&t Location: I am in the Dallas/Fort Worth Texas area - zip 76262
- *****@hotmail.com
- yes it happens on any Windows Live account
- currently the version of Windows Live on my device is 10.6.33.600, although I have tried the original build (can't remember #) that came on my device along with build 10.6.32.2100. All versions have had the same problem on my device.
I appreciate your help and look forward to hearing a solution to this issue. I pay the $19.99/year fee for premium Hotmail/Live mail features and use this email as my primary email and contact manager. I really need this program to work on my device.
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Thank you for writing back to Windows Live Mobile Technical Support. My name is Teddy. I understand that you still have issues synching your Live Hotmail on your HTC Kaiser Tytn II device. I apologize for the inconvenience.
We received feedback from a few customers experiencing similar issues. We are currently looking into the reason why this is occurring, and our product team is engaging additional resources to locate and isolate what is causing the issue. The details you included in your email will be very helpful to our investigation.
At this time, there is no definite timeframe for a resolution yet. However, we wanted to let you know that this is definitely our top-most priority. Thank you for your patience while we work on a solution.
We appreciate your continued support as we strive to provide you with the highest quality service available. Thank you for using Windows Live Mobile Technical Support.
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So at least MS is aware of the problem and hopefully a newer build of WL will leak onto these boards soon that includes a fix.
ive been haveing the same sync failure problems when i try to sync my email through windows live. ive found a temporary fix by logging into messenger first then doing a send recieve with windows live mail. it then syncs my email folders correctly. so Ive discovered it will only sync when messenger is showing logged in.
BTW I'm a Beta Tester for windows live messenger and the last build was in july, there hasnt been one since. I will give more feedback on the beta feedback this evening
I have the Tilt and I was wondering is their anyway I can have both Media Net and Balckberry running at the same time? Everytime i am messages or browser the web my bb disconnects. Any way around this?
No, the Tilt can only connect to one APN at a time. MediaNet or blackberry.net
eh? so if i were to use ONLY the bb connect service for email, i'll get disconnected from browsing etc every time an email gets pushed out to me?
another question. i'm currently pulling down 4 pop3 accounts into their individual email "folders" on my tilt via default pocket outlook polling setup. can blackberry connect do the same with regards to different "folders" / account?
eg: shove different account emails to their respective outlook folders vs all in one bucket?
i had a 7200 series blackberry *years* ago using bb internet service and regardless of how many accounts you pulled down it all got dumped into the same bucket so to speak. there was no easy way to differentiate between biz critical vs personal emails at a glance.
?? so far i havent been able to find any helpful info re bb connect online yet.
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eh? so if i were to use ONLY the bb connect service for email, i'll get disconnected from browsing etc every time an email gets pushed out to me?
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No, it's the other way around. Whenever something else grabs the data link, BBConnect goes into suspend mode and will reconnect when it's released.
mujomojo said:
another question. i'm currently pulling down 4 pop3 accounts into their individual email "folders" on my tilt via default pocket outlook polling setup. can blackberry connect do the same with regards to different "folders" / account?
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I creates a separate folder for each e-mail acount. As far as I know, that's the only way it will do it.
how does it work Blackberry connect on the Kaiser ?
Do we need to install the Blackberry software ? (Blackberry connect 4).
Can we then browser the internet if my company pay for it ? (I had Blackberry connect 2 installed on an HTC Universal, I could read my emails and sync Calendar/notes/tasks but I never could browser the internet ...I never could make Black Connect 4 working on my Universal, so I don't know if I would be able to browser the internet with it).
Thanks a lot
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No, it's the other way around. Whenever something else grabs the data link, BBConnect goes into suspend mode and will reconnect when it's released.
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hrm .. not the best scenario especially if using gps via google maps or web browsing.
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I creates a separate folder for each e-mail acount. As far as I know, that's the only way it will do it.
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speaking from personal experience using blackberry connect on your wm6 device?
thanks for the responses!
dizzy33 said:
how does it work Blackberry connect on the Kaiser ?
Do we need to install the Blackberry software ? (Blackberry connect 4).
Can we then browser the internet if my company pay for it ? (I had Blackberry connect 2 installed on an HTC Universal, I could read my emails and sync Calendar/notes/tasks but I never could browser the internet ...I never could make Black Connect 4 working on my Universal, so I don't know if I would be able to browser the internet with it).
Thanks a lot
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There are a number of threads of people posting their experience with BBC on the Kaiser. Browsing works, with some limitations. But also, its possible that your company's policies can restrict some BB functionality. It all depends on the config and the plans you have. But ultimately, you canbrowse the internet, you can get your email pushed to you. The biggest issue is the data connection issue described in the last couple posts. If you want more info. Search this forum for blackberry and you will find alot of testimonial expeirence in getting it set up and using it.
Personally, I found it to be too slow, too much of a memory and battery hog. I removed it within 2 days of installing it. And the difference in performance on the Kaiser and its battery is night and day IMO.
I use Seven's beta software now for my email pushing.
Thanks a lot for your infos !
I've been running it for a little more than a week.
Cons: I noticed that sometimes my appointments don't update on the Tilt when I move it on my desktop OL calender. You need to keep as few programs running as possible or it slows the device and the battery life isn't good. I like the BB keypad better. The Tilt wakes up with the screen dim and outside it is a real problem. I've had it lock up a few times and go so slow I needed to reset.
Pros: Best of WM and BB. The BB has a poor PIM so using PocketInformant again is very nice. 3G for browsing. The disconnect-reconnect is automatic so it isn't a problem for me.
I haven't made up my mind if I going to go back to my 8800. If I wasn't using BES (corporate email) I wouldn't use the BB but that isn't my choice.
Regards-Michael G.
dizzy33 said:
how does it work Blackberry connect on the Kaiser ?
Do we need to install the Blackberry software ? (Blackberry connect 4).
Can we then browser the internet if my company pay for it ? (I had Blackberry connect 2 installed on an HTC Universal, I could read my emails and sync Calendar/notes/tasks but I never could browser the internet ...I never could make Black Connect 4 working on my Universal, so I don't know if I would be able to browser the internet with it).
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Yes, you need to install BBConnect. You want BBConnect 4. I understand that HTC makes it available on their website for Kaiser. I got mine through AT&T on a Tilt, so it was a little different. One quirk, if you got your Kaiser in North America, you have to figure out if it came from Europe or Asia to register on the HTC site. One of the major improvements in BBConnect 4 is it will suspend the blackberry connection if you access the internet using a non-blackberry browser.
You can browse the internet one of two ways. When you install the blackberry software, it also installs the blackberry browser. It will be in the blackberry folder in the programs folder. This goes through your company's system to the internet. This won't interrupt your e-mail, but the blackberry browser is rather weak.
The other way is through any other browser. However, you have to have the APN for your provider programmed in. Your provider's web site will probably have that information. Unlimited data usually comes with a blackberry data plan. So, if you can get your company to pay for a plan, that should get you internet access, even if you don't go through your company's BES system.
mujomojo said:
hrm .. not the best scenario especially if using gps via google maps or web browsing.
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That's true. You have to be careful to avoid programs that suspend bbconnect constantly.
mujomojo said:
speaking from personal experience using blackberry connect on your wm6 device?
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Yes. It's running on my Tilt.
Regardless of where your Kaiser or Tilt came from, you can follow these links to the software needed to install it, if you want it.
http://www.america.htc.com/mobile/connect/8925/
http://www.america.htc.com/connect/8925/
You need 2 pieces (get one from each link above):
1. You need the Blackberry Connect software that installs on your Kaiser/Tilt. It's a .cab file. (first link above)
2. You need the Blackberry Connect for Windows Desktop software that installs on your PC. It's a .exe file. (second link above, halfway down the page)
There's also a help file at the bottom of the second link.
WonkotheSane said:
Yes, you need to install BBConnect. You want BBConnect 4. I understand that HTC makes it available on their website for Kaiser. I got mine through AT&T on a Tilt, so it was a little different. One quirk, if you got your Kaiser in North America, you have to figure out if it came from Europe or Asia to register on the HTC site. One of the major improvements in BBConnect 4 is it will suspend the blackberry connection if you access the internet using a non-blackberry browser.
You can browse the internet one of two ways. When you install the blackberry software, it also installs the blackberry browser. It will be in the blackberry folder in the programs folder. This goes through your company's system to the internet. This won't interrupt your e-mail, but the blackberry browser is rather weak.
The other way is through any other browser. However, you have to have the APN for your provider programmed in. Your provider's web site will probably have that information. Unlimited data usually comes with a blackberry data plan. So, if you can get your company to pay for a plan, that should get you internet access, even if you don't go through your company's BES system.
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Thanks a lot for these informations, that's everything I needed to know !
jomo25 said:
Regardless of where your Kaiser or Tilt came from, you can follow these links to the software needed to install it, if you want it.
http://www.america.htc.com/mobile/connect/8925/
http://www.america.htc.com/connect/8925/
You need 2 pieces (get one from each link above):
1. You need the Blackberry Connect software that installs on your Kaiser/Tilt. It's a .cab file. (first link above)
2. You need the Blackberry Connect for Windows Desktop software that installs on your PC. It's a .exe file. (second link above, halfway down the page)
There's also a help file at the bottom of the second link.
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Thanks a lot for these links !