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I called cingular tonight because i have been trying to get my 750 paired with my tom tom one 3rd edition for use of the weather updates and cameras and such. Through conversation with a support representative, and trying to troubleshoot why it couldn't use the wireless connection of the phone, the representative asked me to check a few things on my phone. While answering some questions, one of which was about device software and such and i told him i had windows mobile 6 installed.
From this point on he led into reasons why i should be using it with out it being released and such which is to be expected. He also stated that doing to much to the phone can possibly make the phone upgradable when the real WM6 update is released. This he mentioned were changing the boot loader, IPL and SPL software in the phone, that and using bogus releases of software. The reason being he said was that the soon to be released update probes the phone deeply because everything has been updated including the boot loader stuff.
Now i cant confirm or deny any truth to these statements but the only thing i had done with mine was a try a few new firmwares but after my conversation with them i quickly reverted back to WM5.
here is a link to get it if anyone is interested in doing the same. Download either or, they are the same. included is the cheeimg.nbh and the cheediag.nbh. the cheediag.nbh wont complete is you have othere that cingular WM5 on ur cingular treo 750.
http://rapidshare.com/files/17874512/Treo750_Cingular_ROM.zip
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http://rs61l32.rapidshare.com/files/16438750/Treo750_Cingular_ROM.zip

I think Olipro's response covers the reality of this mighty fine. There's really only one scenario where you could do something and not be able to change or revert, and that has to do with the radio.
If you put a Hermes radio on the Treo, you won't be able to change it ever again until a hack is worked up. The Hermes radio does a bit of authentication with the SPL using a function that is the Hermes SPLs, but not in the Cheetah SPL.
I'm currently stuck in this situation unfortunately..
jhowle said:
I called cingular tonight because i have been trying to get my 750 paired with my tom tom one 3rd edition for use of the weather updates and cameras and such. Through conversation with a support representative, and trying to troubleshoot why it couldn't use the wireless connection of the phone, the representative asked me to check a few things on my phone. While answering some questions, one of which was about device software and such and i told him i had windows mobile 6 installed.
From this point on he led into reasons why i should be using it with out it being released and such which is to be expected. He also stated that doing to much to the phone can possibly make the phone upgradable when the real WM6 update is released. This he mentioned were changing the boot loader, IPL and SPL software in the phone, that and using bogus releases of software. The reason being he said was that the soon to be released update probes the phone deeply because everything has been updated including the boot loader stuff.
Now i cant confirm or deny any truth to these statements but the only thing i had done with mine was a try a few new firmwares but after my conversation with them i quickly reverted back to WM5.
here is a link to get it if anyone is interested in doing the same. Download either or, they are the same. included is the cheeimg.nbh and the cheediag.nbh. the cheediag.nbh wont complete is you have othere that cingular WM5 on ur cingular treo 750.
http://rapidshare.com/files/17874512/Treo750_Cingular_ROM.zip
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http://rs61l32.rapidshare.com/files/16438750/Treo750_Cingular_ROM.zip
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this is why i am not doing the Hard SPL unlock bit. I mean it is great that someone has the smarts to make this work but honestly it took thousands of man hours and engineers to make these phones and the software in them. I believe honestly software has gotten like the pharmacutical industry, so many side affects and there is know way the one person who wrote this can adaquately predict what will happen on every phone. SOmetimes it is better to just leave alone.

oh and think you guys should post what side affects you know of in regards to using the HARD-SPL. I think a lot of people are gonna be pissed if they used that and cannot get the AT&T update to install on thier phones when it comes out.. I smell some future legal problems here.

Ok I'm feeling a bit dense today, are you saying if I have the leaked AT&T WM 6 rom installed on my Treo it won't be able to update to the official release?

Naw, no one is saying that. You can install whatever updates you want, including future updates. Don't pay attention to folks who haven't been 'round here long or the misguided/misinformed ramblings of a Cingular tech support cubicle jockey.
VirgoXDA said:
Ok I'm feeling a bit dense today, are you saying if I have the leaked AT&T WM 6 rom installed on my Treo it won't be able to update to the official release?
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I suggest you read up on the world of HTC devices (the Treo is made by HTC) to get some helpful insight into bootloaders, radios, OS ROMs, etc. The Hermes upgrading forum would be a good place to start - the Hermes is very similar to the Treo.
The only "side effects" are this:
-the patched bootloader will not allow itself to be overwritten by a carrier ROM update. The patched bootloader is what allows a cooked (unsigned) ROM to be flashed.
-the patched bootloader will let you flash a Hermes radio to the device if you are so inclined. Right now this is a bad move since the Hermes radios have a radio bootloader which requires authentication from the main bootloader (SPL), and this isn't supported by the main bootloader. End result - if you flash a Hermes radio, you'll be stuck with it, perhaps forever.
Palm, HTC, and carriers will always give you a scripted response when it comes to running modified code on your device. Their responses are designed to discourage folks from bricking or otherwise fouling up their device and then running to Palm or the carriers for help. You'll get a clear picture of the risks and realities here on these forums.
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oh and think you guys should post what side affects you know of in regards to using the HARD-SPL. I think a lot of people are gonna be pissed if they used that and cannot get the AT&T update to install on thier phones when it comes out.. I smell some future legal problems here.
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yeah i've known for a long time that HTC has made the treo 750 and many others. I'm just not that much into my phone that i wanna know how this affects this and make it do this neat thing.. i just want it to work.

Talk about contradictory...you're mighty confusing my friend.
Anyway, you've happened upon a site dedicated to modifying devices via cooked OS's and patched device code so they can "do neat things". Perhaps you'd find the various Treo user sites closer to your needs...Treocentral is a good one.
jhowle said:
yeah i've known for a long time that HTC has made the treo 750 and many others. I'm just not that much into my phone that i wanna know how this affects this and make it do this neat thing.. i just want it to work.
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Should I buy this phone?

I nearly bought this phone tonight before T-Mobile decided to charge me full price. I decided ebay might be a better place to buy one instead of paying 500 dollars for an iphone wannabe. It looks like a nice phone. I really like the wifi feature. I intend to use the wifi in my home as I already have wifi though out the house in use with my wifes computer and my PS3. It seemed like it would fit nice. I want to be able to surf the internet and maybe use google maps and google talk via the phone and wifi. I assume that can be done. After reading a few reviews though I put a screeching halt on my ebay bids. The phone seems to suffer from serious memory issues. Every negative review dealt with the memory or lock ups which I assume were also memory related. It appears the phone ships with a slow processor and not enough memory. I have no problems with buys a microSD card in the 2 to 4 gig range if that will solve the memory issues. I intended on buying one anyway for the application storage. Will the additional memory solve the issues with the phone? Are there updates to the phone that will correct these issues possible since many of the reviews were written? Are there currently SAFE work arounds that would correct the memory issues? I am no stranger to fooling around with this type of thing but at 300 dollars and considering that I am buying on ebay, I'm affraid i wont be in a position to gamble with the phone. If made the purchase through T-mobile I could possibly return the phone but ebay is another matter. Many of the sales are final. I dont want this phone if it requires flashing Rom's or extensive worj arounds to get the phone working.
So I will rely on your opinions on whether or not to make this purchase. If not this phone..what phone? I use t-mobile and dont want an unlocked phone so it would need to be one of their available products. I hear the MDA isnt bad. I really like the idea of a windows mobile OS as it would allow me to put darn near any app on the phone I want to. I want WIFI. I want to be able to use google talk and google maps on the phone and I really like the idea of surfing the web for free on my couch useing full functioning browsers not those mobile editions. Any recomendations if not the Hearld/Wing? Can I get the Wing to work properly and not freeze, hang up, lock up, or require constant reboots?

Point Blank you will have to change the rom on the wing in order to get some performance out of it, I switched from the MDA and the first day I got the wing I wanted my MDA back, but after changing the rom I forgot all about my big fat MDA even though The MDA has a 1250mAh battery and the wing just has a 1130mAh Batt.
If you do not want to do a rom upgraded you can take a shot at the Shadow, which has twice has much built in Memory and Storage, but its just a smartphone not a full PPC ................
also the MDA has been Dis-continued so if you buy one it will be a re-furb.

on second thought, You might just have to change the paging pool size and that should free up some Memory. and its too easy to do, and you can also delete and uninstall some files and programs you have no need for

I saw a few articles about both the rom and the page file. In your opinion, is changing the rom a wise thing to do with little to no support? I know that rom updates are risky, but on computers for example, its such a slick and easy process that there is little to no risk. Would a rom update on the wing be a wise thing to do? Is the available rom from a reputable sourse or is this something "Cody the 12 year old" made? I really want to make this wing my next phone but I dont want a 400 dollar PDA/cell phone that does neither correctly.

prodaytrader said:
I saw a few articles about both the rom and the page file. In your opinion, is changing the rom a wise thing to do with little to no support? I know that rom updates are risky, but on computers for example, its such a slick and easy process that there is little to no risk. Would a rom update on the wing be a wise thing to do? Is the available rom from a reputable sourse or is this something "Cody the 12 year old" made? I really want to make this wing my next phone but I dont want a 400 dollar PDA/cell phone that does neither correctly.
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Hi,
I have not created my own rom, but have recooked a few version of the Touch-IT v2.3 wing by itje. Recooking a rom is a long process, creating a rom would take even longer.
I've flashed my wing over 80 times now during testing new roms and recooking.
I've bricked the phone a lot of times in the process but with the orignal ruu, its no big deal.
I'm pretty sure itje and other fine rom cookers in this forum are not 12 year olds.
If you want to buy the wing then buy it and tjem read the forum and learn how to flash new roms and change page pool size.
If you want a faster and more powerful phone then buy the Kaiser.
Thanks for reading.

funny you should mention the Kaiser. I just finished reading up on that one. Thats a serious phone. It's way more phone and money then I am prepared to pony up. Is this the next best option for me?
I didnt mean any offense on the 12 year old statement. I certainly wasnt refering to anyone in particular or members of this board. I was mearly trying to imply unproven rom techniques. It sounds like there is well tested processess probably on this board for flashing the rom. It will likely be a safe process for me.
Would there be another recomendation for T-mobile if not the Kaiser or the Wing?

T-mo currently has 3 windows based devices listed which are the Wing, The Dash and The shadow, both the Dash and the shadow are smartphones and not PPC .................. since you dont want to have to unlock another device to be able to use it, I would recomend that you get the wing and while its being shipped to you read this thread about changing the Paging Pool
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324955
When you get the phone try give the 4mb Paging pool a test (thats what I use)
and if you still do not like it or just want to see how much better it is try a Rom upgraded I recomend Touch-IT wing 2.3 cooked by itje and he is not the 12 yr old that beat you in online gaming ................ you can get it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340403
The installation is VERY VERY easy, but make sure to read the instruction in the folder and if you skip a line you will brick your phone ......................... but if you do brick your phone its pretty simple to unbrick, just re-flash the official rom .................... I can't seem to find that link (or too tired to look) but if someone can post it please do, If i come home tomorrow and no one has posted a link I will upload it for you

great info. phone purchased and ill be sure to give those tips a go. thanks

prodaytrader said:
great info. phone purchased and ill be sure to give those tips a go. thanks
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Just a note. Make sure you read and then RE-READ the instructions provided with every rom. And its also a good thing to get the T-Mobile official RUU as once the phone is bricked, this is the only rom that will unbrick it. I don't want to scare you because it's actually a very easy process. I have flashed itje's rom to several of my co-workers (were all T-Mobile employees) with no unrecoverable issues.

Upgrade my TyTN II to 6.1 ??

I have been looking to upgrade my Tytn II to the latest ROM however I have not been able to get the upgrade it from HTC.
but its seems to not be there....
My system is
R 1..27.15.32
G 22.51.8.13H
D 1.82.00.00
Now I"m not sure what all those numbers ar efor but I know the R is for radio!!
I got lost after reading that bit... I was going to try to upgrade it myself but got confused so I stopped... trying and thought I'd wait till an update was available from HTC...
Well it seems its not to me anyways...
SO if there is anyone out there that can help me sort out an upgrade..
I live in Brisbane, and use optus as my carrier... my phone is unlocked as far as I know... I purchased it on the net from a Melbourne online store.
So help an Aussie if ya can.....

if you want to upgrade, then please start reading here.....
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser

6.1 very bad gps.
6.0 good gps

Why go to WM 6.1?
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6.1 very bad gps.
6.0 good gps
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Exactly! Having been there, done that and decided to go back to WM 6.0, in my effort to help a fellow person from 'down under', I can tell targ that if he uses (or expects to use) Tomtom or GPS at all on the device, he'd better be very patient at waiting for satellite locks under WM 6.1.
Although HTC have improved some of their WM 6.1 upgrades by using a newer Radio, I've tried the latest WWE version and it's still far short of what my original WM 6.0 implementation achieved as far as GPS performance is concerned. Once you upgrade to 6.1 it's quite a task to go back to WM 6.0 (the spl needs reverting too) so I had HTC do that on my device under warranty.

Yup tried reading that...
got lost as to what I need to match to what!!!
Like I said I'm looking for a some help to do this .
I"ll have another crack at it though see if I can make sense of any of it...
Peto01 man what you mean the gps goes crap... in 6.1
Is this only in a few units or every unit.

More reading material
targ said:
what you mean the gps goes crap... in 6.1
Is this only in a few units or every unit.
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Have a look at this thread about *hopeless* GPS after 6.1 update
The problem seems fairly widespread with TyTN II WM 6.1 updates. Since the ROM and Radio on your device seem to be from the Rogers network (as listed in the xda-dev wiki), that may explain why the generic HTC upgrade doesn't work for your device (only genuine HTC TyTN IIs will run the HTC upgrade as-is).
If you're just wanting to upgrade to WM 6.1 because it's the latest, you may be disappointed!

Useful!
I was browsing forum trying to see should I upgrade my stock 6.0 ROM to 6.1. Now I am sure that I will wait for couple more months (weeks?) !

I'm inclined to wait until the next ROM and Radio release has been tested/reviewed
I'm inclined to let someone else be the guinea pig regarding fixing the broken GPS. When a new ROM/Radio Combination is released on HTC eClub/Support, I'll check here to see how reports about GPS performance look and then when I'm sufficiently sure it's not still broken, will again jump over to WM 6.1.
Once bitten, twice shy and I don't want to have to get HTC to revert it to WM 6.0 again!

Flying Kiwi said:
Exactly! Having been there, done that and decided to go back to WM 6.0, in my effort to help a fellow person from 'down under', I can tell targ that if he uses (or expects to use) Tomtom or GPS at all on the device, he'd better be very patient at waiting for satellite locks under WM 6.1.
Although HTC have improved some of their WM 6.1 upgrades by using a newer Radio, I've tried the latest WWE version and it's still far short of what my original WM 6.0 implementation achieved as far as GPS performance is concerned. Once you upgrade to 6.1 it's quite a task to go back to WM 6.0 (the spl needs reverting too) so I had HTC do that on my device under warranty.
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I had the same experience and reverted back to 6.0 roms. BUT I've recently been using Garmins WM6.1 DK3 with radio 1.65.17.56 and the GPS fix is always quick and strong - Works all over UK. This setup may be worth considering.

ach2 said:
I had the same experience and reverted back to 6.0 roms. BUT I've recently been using Garmins WM6.1 DK3 with radio 1.65.17.56 and the GPS fix is always quick and strong - Works all over UK. This setup may be worth considering.
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I want to keep it all official HTC and not have to use hardspl at this stage, besides I prefer the look of the original HTC setup (themes, icons etc) over the customised Garmin DK3. The latest official HTC ROM for the device uses the same radio as you're using and I was far from satisfied with its reception instability compared to the old WM 6.0 setup. I've sent a letter to the big cheese at HTC so will wait and see what happens!

Flying Kiwi,
What do you mean "Rogers network" (WTF) I bought a HTC Tytn II from a Retailer. surely this is not a fake HTC??
Should I be looking at taking it back?
Does this mean I don't have any Warrenty?
This would be why HTC said that the Upgrade is not a suitable for my unit... going by the S/N!!
What am I to DO now.
As for the GPS issue some seem to be having no real issue with cooked roms.
AS I live in Australia would I need to get a diff radio then say you in the UK?
I"m rather intrested in the L26 TL ROM of Leo's
And if I understand it correctly I need to
1. run jump SPL
2. then flash the SPL that suits the rom I go for.
3. flash the Radio
4. Flash the ROM I have choisen.
Then hard reset.
IS that right?
or have I got the order wrong or missed a step.
Just trying to make a simple as I can..
Would my location and carrier make a difference as to which SPL, ROM, RADIO I use.

OH yeah !
What Does the R, D, and G mean...

Well, I finally did my first ROM change (to 6.1) and have to say I don't have any problems at all.
I have a T-mobile Vario 3, that although everything worked, I always found slow and buggy.
I went for Sleuths 6.1 V3 ROM, simply because I was a hermes user before and his stuff was always flawless.......and I was proved right again.
It's really simple to do, contains the correct radio (much better than the shipped one), and is really fast and stable. Had it a week and used it intensively - no problems with Tomtom or GPS - the same, if not better than it was before.
I would suggest, if you're not sure which one to go for then try this and see if it suits you.

Ok I tried to use the link in the WIki to the Jump SPL the latest one that only needs you to follow the on screen info..
And well according to the on screen prompts it must be done but as for the unit its self I don't hink so as nothing really happened on it... I"m thinking that the wizard does not like Vista or it does not like Sync Centre.
anyone able to help me out ....

No WTFs reqd after-all
targ said:
Flying Kiwi,
What do you mean "Rogers network"
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Your Radio (R) is the same as that used by Rogers on their WM 6.0 ROMs. But you're right, I missed the bit about your 1.82 series ROM though so it looks more like you have the 3rd one down the wiki list of HTC WM 6.0 ROMs here and not the first: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
Should I be looking at taking it back?
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Not if it currently works as you need it to but you could see what their explanation for why there is no WM 6.1 upgrade for your device yet is. HTC in Australia should also be able to advise you http://www.htc.com/au/about_htc.aspx?id=21840
As for the GPS issue some seem to be having no real issue with cooked roms.
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And some are so are you willing to take that risk as a newbie and get stuck with a non-original non-warrantable installation thats not straight forward to revert back to original WM 6.0 if it plays up for you? Is it not worth liasing with HTC first to see what they have to say about a possible WM 6.1 update if you're really that keen?
AS I live in Australia would I need to get a diff radio then say you in the UK?
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Pass on the Radios but if history is anything to go by, there are a few different ROMs on that wiki page released for Australia. If you do a bit of searching around here I think you'll find cases of peoples non-Australian purchased TyTN IIs having problems when used there as well. I can't recall what the issues were but there definitely were issues (months ago before WM 6.1 came out on the Kaiser). Perhaps a search for Australia just in the Kaiser General or Kaiser ROM Dev forums may yeild results.

Thanks heaps I'll follow your leads Cheers

I'm getting my MDA Compact IV tomorrow...what to do?

Hi all,
Well after much deliberation and hard choices I decided to go for the T-Mobile Compact IV due to being the best deal. I am returning to WM after 18 months ditching my 02 XDA mini s
I have been scouring these forums for weeks now to see what I can do right away to my new phone...
I want to obviously get rid of the Tmobile branded touch flo 3d..
Can you please report what best SPL's, Radios and ROM's are best for this particular device (i understand some radios work better for different carries, so obviously would like to know from experience who has best performance for tmobile).
I have searched and searched the forums, and with it being a MDA compact the answers are less definative for whats best and I just want to make sure.
I am aware of mikes thread with the compact he got for his gf but would like info in addition to this.
Would you reccomend me opening up the box and then just wiping the phone right away without using the tmobile version
Thanks for your help
Granty

I have had a UK T-Mobile MDA IV for about a week now.
I used the SwiftBL 7.5 ROM with no difficulties. Upgraded the same day as I got the phone after it had charged a bit - the T-Mobile ROM really didn't have much going for it. Didn't try the other ROMs though. No problems installing the hard SPL (jockyw2001's HardSPL 1.24), it just worked. I did briefly consider sticking with the T-Mobile ROM with a bit of debranding, but it really is awful and I don't regret upgrading now!
Upgraded the radio to v1.00.25.05 as recommended in the SwiftBL thread and it worked well. Later upgraded radio to v1.00.25.BS14 and I think it works better, but that's a bit subjective - I haven't been running benchmarks and formal tests! Pretty easy to downgrade if you have to though.
I think "what's best" is pretty subjective. From the few days I've been in this forum it seems SwiftBL is like a slightly tweaked HTC ROM with some useful tools on it, and Dutty's is more of a hardcore tweaked ROM built for speed, but I might be wrong on that

all i can reccomend is Dutty's lite (+, of course, all what you prefer, all tweaks and other "must have")
radio? .05, .07, .08, .14 - it depends on many factors (country, city, operator etc) so we cannot surely say "this radio is THE BEST!
one is as sure as ****: debranding is necessity, radio rom .03 is the worst, T-Mobile ROM is also one piece of ****

Thanks for both of your replies. I have downloaded SwiftBL 7.5 while I was waiting for response, seemed one to go for. Download HardSPL - Diamond - Olinex- Hope thats the one to go for and also downloaded the radio .08 and BS14, will probs bang BS14 on and give that a go. Will let ya know my experiences tomorrow!
echolock said:
I have had a UK T-Mobile MDA IV for about a week now.
I used the SwiftBL 7.5 ROM with no difficulties. Upgraded the same day as I got the phone after it had charged a bit - the T-Mobile ROM really didn't have much going for it. Didn't try the other ROMs though. No problems installing the hard SPL (jockyw2001's HardSPL 1.24), it just worked. I did briefly consider sticking with the T-Mobile ROM with a bit of debranding, but it really is awful and I don't regret upgrading now!
Upgraded the radio to v1.00.25.05 as recommended in the SwiftBL thread and it worked well. Later upgraded radio to v1.00.25.BS14 and I think it works better, but that's a bit subjective - I haven't been running benchmarks and formal tests! Pretty easy to downgrade if you have to though.
I think "what's best" is pretty subjective. From the few days I've been in this forum it seems SwiftBL is like a slightly tweaked HTC ROM with some useful tools on it, and Dutty's is more of a hardcore tweaked ROM built for speed, but I might be wrong on that
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I too have had my mdac4 for a week or so. I tried the Swift rom and it was great to start with but then I lost all sound, although I did install other stuff afterwards which may have been to blame too. I ended up installing the paonosha rom and it has been very good so far, very quick and no gps lag
I'm using 08 radio

Well its here, TMobiles ROM is awful. If i didnt know about this site i'd have sent it back right away, so slow and unresponsive.
Gutted mobile.co.uk announced xperia today but oh well what can you do?
At least I got a decent deal on mine on a 12 month contract I suppose as opposed to an 18 month

I wouldn't go with the xperia even if the price is the same as diamond, touch pro would be the more reasonable choice to go.

had my MDA C4 for just over a month now and i can say a few things:
* I'm using Dutty's rom which is nice and stable and has all the default apps i need. Do not stay on the stock rom unless you have a death wish
* In terms of radio's, i'm on .08 at the moment but i'm just about to switch back as i can't seem to get a GPS lock on and i need it for TomTom. I was on .05 radio before and this was working perfect, and the battery life was also around the same as this .08
* If you have a later ROM version than 1.37 then please try and make a backup, i haven't come across any so far and it would be nice to have one if i have to revert back at some point!
* Play around. There is most likely going to be more than one ROM that will suit your needs, so it's all about what you really want from it down to the skins they have tbh. Most of the ROM's at the moment seem to have pretty much the same speeds and tweaks, and the only difference being that they customize it (whether it be custom manilla icons, start menu, etc).
That's my two cents

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* Play around. There is most likely going to be more than one ROM that will suit your needs, so it's all about what you really want from it down to the skins they have tbh. Most of the ROM's at the moment seem to have pretty much the same speeds and tweaks, and the only difference being that they customize it (whether it be custom manilla icons, start menu, etc).
That's my two cents
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As someone who is in a very similar position to Addictedddd, I echo his words of playing around.
I agree that most ROMs are similar with respect to tweaks, etc. Personally, I'm using Version 7.0 of SwiftBLs ROM. I know that this is not the latest (I think I posted somewhere recently that "newest is not necessarily the best") but it's the one that I most prefer - The one that feels right, if you like..
I've tried countless others but I always keep coming back to version 7.0..
I'm also running the 1.00.25.BS14 Radio on mine. Again, the 05 seemed OK, the 08 didn't change much but I pesonally noted a slight increase in signal with the BS14 so I stuck with it.
You need to play around with the Diamond and experiment with different programs and ROMs. Only this way will you find out what is best for you.
Finally, Don't forget to read. The Wiki has a great introduction for flashing. I've added a link below:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Diamond
Read it - I'd hate to see a post from you tomorrow saying "Help - I've Bricked it!!"
Take care and happy experimenting..

Right oh my findings..
Tmobile ROM...super slow, would have gone back if I didnt know how to change.
After much confusion of the guide saying there was a 1.40 SPL that wasnt developers I found out it was actually 1.30....
I tried installing BS14 radio with 1.30 but kept erroring at 0% (i wasnt even sure the SPL was installed right as it only took literally a second to update, even though bootloader confirmed it)
So after reading a few more peoples reports I went to HardSPL 1.40 developers (just make sure I don't do any dodgey roms) and installed the BS14 radio no problem, again the SPL updated quick taking only a second, then about a minute for the radio.
Installed swiftblade 7.5 which installed very quickly too, about 2 or 3 minutes, so much quicker than the Tmobile ROM.
Not sure how GPS lock is, havent got any sat nav software on, tried google maps which was instant but I take it that is using A-GPS.
Signal strength is not very good, 1 bar, might be my area, all other phones around here have full signal though so may just be tmobile. Will trial it for a bit but if it causes problems try 08 or 05.

I too have had my Compact IV for about a month now, also returning to WM after a stint with a Nokia N95 8Gb (Glad to be back!!). I did manage to refrain from flashing the ROM until today. I didn't have any problems with the T-Mobile ROM but have been reading the forums here and at Modaco and was interested to see if there really was that much of an improvement to be had. I have gone with TLR's Diamond ROM 3 and all i can say is wow!!, its only been a few hours so far but the entire phone is much slicker and quicker, there really is a big difference. I really must say thanks to Jockyw2001 and TheLoanRanger for their excellent work, and to everyone at XDA Developers and Modaco for sharing their experiences. I may well go on to try a few other ROM's but for now im glad to have taken the first step.

What ROM should I get?

I had my TILT 2 for almost a year now. I don't know what to get. I am kind of scared which ROM to install. I read the forums but most of them are too in depth and complicated..a noob like wouldn't understand anything. My phone lags and freezes a lot. Can ROM solve this issue? If so what should I get? I am getting bored and annoyed with my phone please help. I know I am gonna get a lot of comment like "read the forums or something" I've been reading them and they don't really give the info I need.
I appreciate any suggestions and advices.
Thank You

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I had my TILT 2 for almost a year now. I don't know what to get. I am kind of scared which ROM to install. I read the forums but most of them are too in depth and complicated..a noob like wouldn't understand anything. My phone lags and freezes a lot. Can ROM solve this issue? If so what should I get? I am getting bored and annoyed with my phone please help. I know I am gonna get a lot of comment like "read the forums or something" I've been reading them and they don't really give the info I need.
I appreciate any suggestions and advices.
Thank You
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The stock ROMs are generally pretty bloated and prone to freezing. I would recommend that you read the Hard SPL thread, then go ahead and flash the Hard SPL. This will enable to you flash any ROM you like.
Once you have done that first step, just choose a ROM (look over the various choices in this section). You can always flash a different choice later.
WARNING: Make sure your phone is GSM before flashing a ROM from this forum!

^^^^ what he said
You've got nothing to lose and everything to gain by flashing a custom ROM - you can always try another one or go back to stock if you don't like it. Just make sure you back up any data that you want to restore (e.g. contacts, messages etc) before you flash.
All the info you need are in the stickies - e.g. the HardSPL thread for flashing HardSPL, and the "Flashing your First GSM Rhodium ROM" thread.
If you're not sure which ROM to pick, you could always just pick one of the most popular ones to start with, based on the assumption there must be a fairly good reason for those to be the more popular ones.

what I did
Hey
I am about to flash my phone too. I also have it for more then a year ( since last September ) and i did a bit of research just for piece of mind
The most important step is Hard SPL this is so if something goes horribly wrong u can still re-flash it to try and repair the damage ( someone confirm this: there no hardware damage done when u flash , its all just software), besides its also needed in order to flash custom roms aka cooked roms.
For what custom rom to get I did the folowing: sorted the threads based on stats ( posts / views ) and looked at the most popular ones and something struck: Energy rom by NRGZ28 is BY FAR the most popular one, so it must be good for a 1st try then some new unknown cooked rom
Also if you would like to get more info I found this youtube video ( 20 mins / 2 parts ) very informative:
Since I'm new and can't post links search for " Real Time ROM Flashing " and u will find it.

Goliath.ro said:
Hey
The most important step is Hard SPL this is so if something goes horribly wrong u can still re-flash it to try and repair the damage ( someone confirm this: there no hardware damage done when u flash , its all just software), besides its also needed in order to flash custom roms aka cooked roms.
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HardSPL removes the SPL lock which normally only allows flashing of ROMs officially released by your carrier. Without it, you won't be flashing anything, except official ROM updates from your carrier. Yes, HardSPL allows you to run Task29, which formats/wipes the memory. And in some cases this can help you recover from a bad flash. Sometimes flashing back to the stock ROM can help you recover as well.

Goliath.ro said:
Hey
IFor what custom rom to get I did the folowing: sorted the threads based on stats ( posts / views ) and looked at the most popular ones and something struck: Energy rom by NRGZ28 is BY FAR the most popular one, so it must be good for a 1st try then some new unknown cooked rom
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Energy ROM is what I use, and I love it. Its a good tradoff of speed/stability and looks/features. But some feel its not the fastest or most "lightweight" ROM out there. If you want that, some people have recommend Jackos or Valkyrie. Also, lots of people like Deep Shining.
There really is no "best" ROM. It depends on whether you prefer eye candy or speed (or somewhere in the middle), what kind of apps you like to have cooked in, etc.
But I agree to the previous advice given to the OP. Flashing a custom ROM will fix many, many things over the stock ROM. Your phone will be faster, more stable, and have more functionality and features. Figuring out how to flash a custom ROM can be a little intimidating at first. But once you've learned how to do it, its really a snap. And then you will wonder why you ever waited so long to do it! Just make sure you read all the "stickied" guides, read as much as you can about the ROM you are flashing, and follow the instructions carefully.

JRM.joaquin said:
I had my TILT 2 for almost a year now. I don't know what to get. I am kind of scared which ROM to install. I read the forums but most of them are too in depth and complicated..a noob like wouldn't understand anything. My phone lags and freezes a lot. Can ROM solve this issue? If so what should I get? I am getting bored and annoyed with my phone please help. I know I am gonna get a lot of comment like "read the forums or something" I've been reading them and they don't really give the info I need.
I appreciate any suggestions and advices.
Thank You
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I recommend Jackos S2 Rom. It is by far the fastest rom i've tried. When you first flash it, it looks very close to a stock rom and it works great just like that and if you want to, you can modify it to your liking. If you want to take a look, you can find the thread here--->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=632617. If you want to see what it looks like modified, take a look at my profile pic. Jackos rom has been what i've used for the last few months. Like everyone else before me said, do the HSPL before anything.

Thanks everyone. Really really appreciate all the comments. You guys definitely gave me enough ideas and confidence to flash my phone. I can't wait XD

JRM.joaquin said:
Thanks everyone. Really really appreciate all the comments. You guys definitely gave me enough ideas and confidence to flash my phone. I can't wait XD
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You can also read ROM reviews on The Wingster. But there's no best ROM as everyone said. Find something that fits what you need....
If you want SPEED: Choose a Sense 2.1 ROM or even a ROM without Sense (a.k.a. Titanium)
If you want FEATURES: Choose a Sense 2.5 ROM, with CookieHomeTab or another similar enhancement. They will be slower overall, but they have some neat extra features.
Go with Windows Mobile 6.5.5 unless you really like the Windows Mobile 6.5 design.
Then test out a few ROM's and see what works for you.
If you need any help, in addition to the forums, you can use the Support link on The Wingster and I can help you out. But if you read all of the instructions, everything should work well!

I did my little research and I believe it's a GSM. My phone is TILT 2..is that right?

JRM.joaquin said:
I did my little research and I believe it's a GSM. My phone is TILT 2..is that right?
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If you bought your phone from AT&T, then YES it is a Tilt 2, which is GSM.
Your phone is always GSM except if you bought it from Verizon, Sprint, or Telus. Every other provider (T-Mobile, AT&T, and worldwide ones) is GSM!
So if yours is GSM, pick any ROM from the forums here.

Check under the battery if it takes a SIM card its gsm..

jcxtreme30 said:
Check under the battery if it takes a SIM card its gsm..
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Umm, no, that's wrong, sorry. CDMA phones still have a SIM card slot.

steviewevie said:
Umm, no, that's wrong, sorry. CDMA phones still have a SIM card slot.
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Only CDMA Worldphones do have a sim slot.

Sorry guys, but I´m a little bit noobish about that. How can I get if I am "GSM" or "CDMA" with Touch Pro 2 for sure ? I still don´t get the signs of recognizing....
I saw some thread about it, but still do not understand the problem of this separation.

Jackos said:
Only CDMA Worldphones do have a sim slot.
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Yeah but this is the Rhodium forum, and were're talking about Rhodiums. So my answer was about CDMA Rhodiums (which are Worldphones).

Unilqadium said:
Sorry guys, but I´m a little bit noobish about that. How can I get if I am "GSM" or "CDMA" with Touch Pro 2 for sure ? I still don´t get the signs of recognizing....
I saw some thread about it, but still do not understand the problem of this separation.
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Take the back off your phone, remove the battery, and look for some lettering under there. It should say "RHODxxx", where the "xxx" are three digits.
RHOD100, RHOD200, RHOD300 (and variants) are GSM. RHOD400 and RHOD500 are CDMA.

steviewevie said:
Umm, no, that's wrong, sorry. CDMA phones still have a SIM card slot.
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Yea only a dual band phone would still have a slot if it has gsm slot its gsm or dual band point blank... Know what your talking about before you speak..

can a world phone use these roms?
i just got my touch pro 2 off ebay for $200, new in box, which is a pretty good deal. Anyway I want 2 flash one of these roms. The phone's original company is Telus. This phone's marked RH0D500, it's got a GSM slot but is listed as CDMA... (I'm on at&t) From what I read it seems that this has to be treated as a CDMA phone? r there any cdma roms that will still allow me to get corporate emails and use all the good functions of this phone? Oh if anyone's interested the guy i got it from on ebay has like 5 more, but if they're only going to work with CDMA roms then people should probably not buy them for that reason...

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i just got my touch pro 2 off ebay for $200, new in box, which is a pretty good deal. Anyway I want 2 flash one of these roms. The phone's original company is Telus. This phone's marked RH0D00, it's got a GSM slot but is listed as CDMA... (I'm on at&t) From what I read it seems that this has to be treated as a CDMA phone? r there any cdma roms that will still allow me to get corporate emails and use all the good functions of this phone? Oh if anyone's interested the guy i got it from on ebay has like 5 more, but if they're only going to work with CDMA roms then people should probably not buy them for that reason...
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As far as I am aware "RHOD00" is not a valid marking. Is that a typo? Or maybe you should look again. It should be RHOD100, RHOD200, RHOD300, RHOD400, RHOD500, and there may be some variants, like RHOD210. But there should be 3 digits after "RHOD" under the battery. Looking around the net, the Telus version should be RHOD500.
All the "CDMA" variants of the Touch Pro 2 actually also have a GSM radio as well (and therefore a SIM slot) since they are intended for "World" use (international travel). This is because CDMA alone is nearly useless for foreign travel, since most countries outside of North America use GSM. So the presence of a SIM slot will not tell you whether its GSM or CDMA.
For the purposes of these forums, the versions of the TP2 that are CDMA/GSM are considered "CDMA" and can only flash the CDMA ROMs. Phones that are solely GSM radio should only be flashed with GSM ROMs. Flashing a GSM ROM to a CDMA/GSM Rhodium will render it inoperative.
The Telus version of the TP2 looks to have the correct GSM bands (850 and 1900 MHz) to work on ATT. But the phone will need to be SIM unlocked, if it isn't already. If you Google around, you will find some posts on the net (and probably on here too), where people have gotten the CDMA/GSM versions to work on AT&T and T-Mobile, so it should work (if SIM unlocked). But it appears you will only have EDGE data speed, not 3G, since the HSDPA/UMTS radios seem to be missing from the Telus version, based on looking at the phone's specs.
You would have been better off buying the ATT version of the phone, the Tilt2. Its the only version that has the necessary hardware to get 3G data speeds on the ATT network. And you should completely understand all the specs before you buy any phone that isn't from your carrier.