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Okay, this post is really intended as a comment and I am not going to pretend I have THE answer but I do have some suggestions to spark discussion.
Based on a lot of the recent comments and back and forth about newbies/tech support I think that the forum is trending the same way I have seen MANY other forums go. What happens is simple; a group of first adopters, who are by default, technically capable, get together on a forum and start to fill in the gaps in tech support, especially when it comes to 'modded' soft or hardwre. They spend a while helping each other out and a comfort level develops. Members know where to go, and when to ask questions.
Then what happens is that the hardware becomes much more popular. All of a sudden your average Joe can walk out a Cingular store with a 8125 for a couple hundred bucks. These folks are NOT early adopters. They are not necessarily tech savvy. They are the people that are most prone to 'keyboard to chair interface errors'. Since the early members did such a good job raising the profile of the forum it starts to come up every time someone does a Google search. and they all end up over their heads.
So then the folks that have been around for a while start to get frustrated. Why should they provide tech support? Why can't these newbies read? Why should they even try to help if they get barraged by stupid questions?
Well I think that takes us to where we are now, so the question is what do we do now? In my experience the only solution that I have seen is to have people equally dedicated to wiki and sticky writing as they are to writing ROMs and programs. The truth is that if you release something you WILL become tech support and a large part of tech support is writing documentation and then explaining it to others.
I have intended this post as something helpful and to spark discussion, not as a criticism of anyone in particular or any particular group. Hopefully it will be taken as such
I agree. I get the feeling that since the relaunch, for one reason or another, there appears to be a lot more"Why don't my apps close when I press X?" and "How dat I swtich this thing 0ff!!!!!!!" type posts.
I think that it's beholden on more experienced users to try to share their experience as they see fit, but it's absolutely essential that newbs and less experienced users use the search button and wiki.
I've been sponsoring a post in the moderators' forum regarding having a specific section for Tutorials etc, eg for the excellent posts that Menneisyys puts together. The wiki may not be the best place for them (due to the risk of negative edits), although it's certainly better then people never looking at them at all...
But as you say, it's pretty much predicted by psychohistory that all fora of dedicated people will eventually turn into a tech support. I don't mind, but less experienced must use the resources already online - quid pro quo.
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As a new user on this forum i have noticed inconsitant information about G3 vs G4 devices and ROM upgrading. I've seen questions asked by people about G4 devices that go unanswered.
I think the problem with searching on this forum and many others. They do not allow you to search for 3 or fewer letter acronyms such as IPL, SPL, CID. There is no way to search for answers about these things. If there is a setting on the forum that can be changed to allow searching for these terms, then please fix it.
I think when people start posting info about how they did something they need to specify what hardware they are using G3/G4. Thankfully i havent done anything as far as modding my device, but i had seen posts where someone most likely with a G3 device says they figured out how to do this or that, Then someone with a G4 comes along and tried it, not knowing it was done on a G3 and ended up screwing up their device. We need to clearly specify what hardware we are doing mods on.
I still have no clear answer about CID unlocking a G4. I know there is no free utility to do it. Ive seen posts that say the imei-check site can CID unlock. Then i saw a post this morning that imei-check is only a SIM unlock. Can people please provide clear info?
d0ug said:
As a new user on this forum i have noticed inconsitant information about G3 vs G4 devices and ROM upgrading. I've seen questions asked by people about G4 devices that go unanswered.
I think the problem with searching on this forum and many others. They do not allow you to search for 3 or fewer letter acronyms such as IPL, SPL, CID. There is no way to search for answers about these things. If there is a setting on the forum that can be changed to allow searching for these terms, then please fix it.
I think when people start posting info about how they did something they need to specify what hardware they are using G3/G4. Thankfully i havent done anything as far as modding my device, but i had seen posts where someone most likely with a G3 device says they figured out how to do this or that, Then someone with a G4 comes along and tried it, not knowing it was done on a G3 and ended up screwing up their device. We need to clearly specify what hardware we are doing mods on.
I still have no clear answer about CID unlocking a G4. I know there is no free utility to do it. Ive seen posts that say the imei-check site can CID unlock. Then i saw a post this morning that imei-check is only a SIM unlock. Can people please provide clear info?
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I agree with you d0ug! It is rather confusing to navigate and find your way. Especially when you are a n00b, such as myself. I have been trying to mod my phone for 3 days now. I have tried many ways of unlocking my G3, but none of them have worked. I have listened to 3 different people tell me their "way" of unlocking the phone, and all 3 attempts failed in the end. I get flamed for not reading posts or searching, when i did, just nothing relevant popped up! This is not a whine fest, just saying that some people dont have phones that were built on a Wednesday, like mine that was probably built on a Monday and has issues!
Either way, i called Cingular and they are shipping me a brand new 8125 to test things out on!
Canon
Haven't been a wizard user that long although I've been in the ppc scene in about 5 years and quite active in several forums. The most successful solution that I've seen to this problem (witch enevitably always comes up) is to not let new users post for at least 7 days and/or forcing them to read various informational topics before getting access to the actual forum.
This will of course not get everyone but has in my experience improved the situation considerably.
Ah well, that's just my two cents
vijay555 said:
I agree. I get the feeling that since the relaunch, for one reason or another, there appears to be a lot more"Why don't my apps close when I press X?" and "How dat I swtich this thing 0ff!!!!!!!" type posts.
I think that it's beholden on more experienced users to try to share their experience as they see fit, but it's absolutely essential that newbs and less experienced users use the search button and wiki.
I've been sponsoring a post in the moderators' forum regarding having a specific section for Tutorials etc, eg for the excellent posts that Menneisyys puts together. The wiki may not be the best place for them (due to the risk of negative edits), although it's certainly better then people never looking at them at all...
But as you say, it's pretty much predicted by psychohistory that all fora of dedicated people will eventually turn into a tech support. I don't mind, but less experienced must use the resources already online - quid pro quo.
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Vijay, very happy to see that the mods are looking at this. I agree that Wiki's have their limitations especially given the validity of some of the comments about conflicting advice.
The search function definitely does have its limits as well, and people are less likely to go through searches that produce a 100 threads with 5 pages each.
I for one would feel a lot better about telling someone harshly to stop answering questions if I knew that I could also direct them to a single place for answers.
I really love this forum and it has helped me so much. I don't post much except to say "thank you" from time to time to the people who have made some program that has been helpful to me. And although I have been coming to this board every day for over a year I still don't know half as much as the majority of people here.
Some solutions to this problem are:
1) get frustrated and write a mean message to the noob
2) take a minute and just give the link to the page where the answer is
3) make it easier on this forum to find things
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Haven't been a wizard user that long although I've been in the ppc scene in about 5 years and quite active in several forums. The most successful solution that I've seen to this problem (witch enevitably always comes up) is to not let new users post for at least 7 days and/or forcing them to read various informational topics before getting access to the actual forum.
This will of course not get everyone but has in my experience improved the situation considerably.
Ah well, that's just my two cents
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That could be nice... part of the things that had contributed to the bad search results are the tons of new threads asking the very same questions over and over and over again... is there anyway to disable these threads from showing up in the search results? Maybe it's time for us to out up another sticky thread specifically talking abóut G4 devices =)
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That could be nice... part of the things that had contributed to the bad search results are the tons of new threads asking the very same questions over and over and over again... is there anyway to disable these threads from showing up in the search results? Maybe it's time for us to out up another sticky thread specifically talking abóut G4 devices =)
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I would like to see a thread dedicated to G4 devices, with verified correct information in it.
It isnt just people asking the same questions over and over making the search junk. Its the inability to even search for simple short 3 letter acronyms like CID, IPL, SPL, AKU. These are all things I have tried to search for and get 0 results. If I were able to search for these terms I could probably turn up a wealth of information on my own.
_Nomad_ said:
Haven't been a wizard user that long although I've been in the ppc scene in about 5 years and quite active in several forums. The most successful solution that I've seen to this problem (witch enevitably always comes up) is to not let new users post for at least 7 days and/or forcing them to read various informational topics before getting access to the actual forum.
This will of course not get everyone but has in my experience improved the situation considerably.
Ah well, that's just my two cents
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That would work me thinks!!!!!
Hi all,
I've been reading this forum for weeks now and still have not found enough answers to be secure enough and cid-unlock my G3 2.21 vario.
I HAVE indeed read most relevant threads, although navigating them can be somewhat confusing. However When I posted some -in my n00b opinion - valid questions I either got 1) no reply whatsoever 2) replies to read "the" threads....which wasn't really helpfull or I wouldn't have asked 3) contradicting advice .... like a 2.21 G3 Can be unlocked, or it Cannot be unlocked, you have to downgrade twice, you have to upgrade twice, you Can or Cannot flash a G4 rom to a G3 device so you won't have to downgrade and CID unlock your phone first, etc.
I believe that I am somewhat beyond the real n00b level right now but still I'd like information to be more consistent and easier to find, I've already tried to suggest making a stickied n00b FAQ or wiki for us where to find the basic answers in a easy and consistent manner so the sdame questions aren't asked over and over and ROM threads hijacked for support questions.
but that is just my cup of tea.
thanks for a good forum with vlauable info.
stefan.
Regular search
Personally, I find using google or yahoo, with site:xda-developers.com, works much better than the forum search. My personal pet peeve is the inability to use quotes to search for phrases. Quotes don't work.
A major problem with "read the threads" is the 800+ entry length of some of them. It would be nice to try to harness the power of those of us newly figuring things out and ask them to submit a wiki for something they just learned. If we had a submission point for the wiki, perhaps those of us who recently learned new things would do a how-to write-up and submit it to the wiki.
Finally, there are a lot of repeat threads, many with false or useless information. These threads stand in the way of a searcher. I would be happier if the moderators deleted more bad threads. Alternatively, we could use democracy -- add a "vote to delete" button to every thread not posted by a moderator and if a high enough percentage vote to delete, the thread is gone. I'd suggest 20% as a threshold -- more than that and the thread goes away.
Have been reading all your comments and completely agree with you guys... I see you have specific problems on G3/G4 on Wizards, as someone suggested a separate subforum for G4 devices would be ideal for you, and also for Prophet I guess.
About the search functions I'm also using google to search as a fallback when I can't find specific things using vBulletin's integrated search function, there's a thread on the mod forum where we discussed how to improve it, but seems is not very active now... will try to push Flar to do something about that.
Regarding the wiki, I think everyone should be less afraid to edit, if you look at the "recent changes" you see always the same people is editing. Have a look at the Hermes or BlueAngel wiki pages, these are good examples on how info has to be organized on the wiki, it's easy to find everything on the front page and information is well divided. Formating may seem a bit complicated at the beginning, but you don't have to care too much if you just want to add content, sure someone more experienced with wiki syntax will edit and correct any bad formating mistakes.
I do 100% agree with you that the wiki itself doesn't cover half of what it should. Yet if you take the time to read through it, and the links, you should be quite familiar with your device...
And oh yeah, sure, you can't search for keywords less than four characters, but that's not really an excuse... look at the thread containing the latest Faria ROM. Half... Half of what the thread contains is the same question over and over again... those ppl didn't even read the initial post of the thread... they found the download link, tried to install the ROM, got problem and went right to work, posting their (stupid) question all over again and again... The problem was never the limited search capabilities... It's always the ppl...
A board without limitations always get bloated with crap, whether it's unwanted commercial och just plain stupid posts...
So, unfortunatly this is going to continue unless you put constraints on the board... I'm sorry, but that's what's gonna happen.
Seems to me that since this was posted the situation has sorta escalated... Faria, Molski, risidoro and just now Dr P has announced their leave.
In this rate all that'll be left will be the newbies soon. Sad to witness
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And oh yeah, sure, you can't search for keywords less than four characters, but that's not really an excuse... look at the thread containing the latest Faria ROM. Half... Half of what the thread contains is the same question over and over again... those ppl didn't even read the initial post of the thread... they found the download link, tried to install the ROM, got problem and went right to work, posting their (stupid) question all over again and again... The problem was never the limited search capabilities... It's always the ppl...
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It's also very human.
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A board without limitations always get bloated with crap, whether it's unwanted commercial och just plain stupid posts...
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There just should be enough moderators. Now what happens when you write something stupid is you also get useless answers like "don't do that" which just makes everything even worse. There should be a "FAQ"-section, there should be a "how-to"-section etc...but there isn't. The forum structure is FAR TOO SIMPLE to handle the amount of messages.
Two main things to handle this (just my opinion):
Re-designed forum structure
Moderators
(well, the structure should be designed in the first place so that it would be easy to extend it later...not an easy job)
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...A major problem with "read the threads" is the 800+ entry length of some of them. It would be nice to try to harness the power of those of us newly figuring things out...
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I usually suggest to those asking questions to post the solution to their question in the first post. But I'm over at the Mio forums, and since we only have 4500 peps, the mods aren't overwhelmed. I can lock a thread, post the correct thread to post in, and a few days later, delete the thread. I spend 1/2 my time using the search function to consolidate questions into single threads. But like I said, that's not feasible here. I suggest a PM sent to everyone the registers, that is kind of a quick start guide. I understand why the 3 letter limit, because people type words like "the" and "and". I'm not sure how powerful the forum software is, but it would be nice to remove the size limit, and omit such words as mentioned above, from the search.
Regards,
Jason
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There should be a "FAQ"-section, there should be a "how-to"-section etc...but there isn't. The forum structure is FAR TOO SIMPLE to handle the amount of messages.
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Ummm, have you ever taken the time to look at the Wiki?
This forum is being provided to us basically for free. (Except for voluntary donations.) I personally can't afford to donate $$$ to the community, or for that matter to individual developers, so I dedicate some time to post in the forums to share what I've learned. I have also donated time to updating the Wiki.
If the Wiki doesn't contain all you would like it to, just add it yourself! One brief tutorial could make a world of difference to a newbie, or even a more experienced user. It also helps to point out gaps in the general knowledge we have here in these forums.
If, for example, there isn't a sub-forum for the device you use, you don't have to wait for the moderators, etc. to create it. Just create a Wiki page, and get the ball rolling on your own!
Take the initiative! That's what these forums were founded on!
Just my opinion.
Now go have fun!
JKR said:
I suggest a PM sent to everyone the registers, that is kind of a quick start guide. I understand why the 3 letter limit, because people type words like "the" and "and". I'm not sure how powerful the forum software is, but it would be nice to remove the size limit, and omit such words as mentioned above, from the search.
Regards,
Jason
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First of all, you get much better, and more detailed search results by using a search-engine like Google. Their advanced search features do a fantastic job, and can be fine tuned to search only through a specific site. (i.e. http://forum.xdadevelopers.com )
Secondly, as opposed to a PM, possibly an email with a confirmation link after the introductory information.
Hope this helps....
Now go have fun!
I think it is more synonymous of the world today, do you read the manual when you buy a new stereo or mobile phone, or do you dig in saying 'nah i know how it works it'll be ok'. People just dont take the time to understand first, they think they know it all and then the proverbial hits the fan! As an experienced R&D firmware developer it doesn't matter how easy I make the interface you will always get those that stuff it up!
So not such an easy one to fix, you have given the masses a place to ask the ridiculous and the tools to stuff up easily, How do you fix that?
Riptos
Quite a few threads now on the aforementioned topic
1) The one regarding the online petition
So, there are some 13000 signatures. So what? What is going to be done with them?
2) The one regarding proper video drivers
HTC announced in February that a fix was forthcoming at the end of March. Where is it?
3) The one regarding the video driver bounty.
Supposedly some $7000 has been raised. I doubt this. What people pledge and what gets sent are two completely different things. Sorry to be a cynic.
Having had my TYTN II for 3 months, I have monitored this site with interest for any developments. Sadly, if a fix does not transpire soon, then it becomes a wasted cause as the phone will be obsolete very soon...
Time now for action?
I don't think it is going to happen unless HTC decides to do it. Who knows, they could put out a fix today.
Why would you make this thread when there are all the other threads to post in? You haven't stated anything new. Useless thread.
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Why would you make this thread when there are all the other threads to post in? You haven't stated anything new. Useless thread.
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There has been nothing new in any of the other threads for some time. That is my point, what is yours?
And, apologies, didn't realise that there were only a finite number of threads available...
My point is that you should take your questions to those topics so that they answers can be followed. Those threads are their for a reason and that reason is to maintain all the information in one labeled location.
It had nothing to do with a limit on threads, or finite as your referred, it just clutters up the main page with duplicate topic that has a sticky.
I could care less either way, I feel like this post and the sticky haven't done anything toward getting the drivers fixed because HTC said they are going to put our new driver sometime in the future.
To me the both should be deleted.
Share this link with others!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314615
All your dreams come true..................
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My point is that you should take your questions to those topics so that they answers can be followed. Those threads are their for a reason and that reason is to maintain all the information in one labeled location.
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You're not a librarian, are you?
My question relates to 3 different threads. All of which (in my humble opinion) havn't actually achieved very much as of yet other than some moaning and some empty promises. To reiterate... With all of these signatures and all of this promised? cash, who decides when to actually do something and what will that be?
Seems to me that if nothing is going to be done then they might as well lock all of the other threads and this one and we'll look forward to the next great piece of technology (hopefully it'll come with all the extras!)
Well said my friend. I think I will put that in my sig.
yes me am librarian. Want a book?
if their are 3 worthless threads already in your opinion, why add a 4th?
Sad isn't it? That several people can write plenty on the issue of a waste of time thread? Yet no-one can be bothered to comment constructively on the original point I raised: If anything is going to be done...then what? and if not why not close down all of these threads?
Enough on the "why a new thread" theme. Point taken! Now, how about an answer...?
Jetdriver330 said:
Quite a few threads now on the aforementioned topic
1) The one regarding the online petition
So, there are some 13000 signatures. So what? What is going to be done with them?
2) The one regarding proper video drivers
HTC announced in February that a fix was forthcoming at the end of March. Where is it?
3) The one regarding the video driver bounty.
Supposedly some $7000 has been raised. I doubt this. What people pledge and what gets sent are two completely different things. Sorry to be a cynic.
Having had my TYTN II for 3 months, I have monitored this site with interest for any developments. Sadly, if a fix does not transpire soon, then it becomes a wasted cause as the phone will be obsolete very soon...
Time now for action?
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1. They have been shown to the CEO of HTC. what else do you do with a petition?
2. Ask HTC, if we knew the answer to this then there would be a thread.
3. I'm glad you feel that way.. BUT
People are trying to do what they can to make it happen. Look at other threads like
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381254 where they are trying to extract a driver from another phone.
Maybe you have read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355345 where someone has donated a phone to someone to help the cause.
Is that enough action for you?
Regardless of wether or not the phone will be the latest and greatest when the fix does or doesn't happen, there are still people interested in it happening. Not everyone can by every great phone.
NEXT
Your answer is there is no answer. No one knows thats why the other posts don't have any information. Asking the same question multiple times doesn't force an answer. I would know, I have already tried that method.
This thread is dead....
Closed as redundant. This is a thread that never should have been.
Can someone please create a cab file for the HTC Video SHare (Version 1, Build 31407). This is in the newest Att release from 6/15/08, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400276
I have no idea how to do this, and I an frankly surprised that no other Att user is interested.
I appreciate any help...oh, and yes, I searched for it!
Mods-Please delete, this thread moves the discussion backwards if anywhere, I will create a new thread...Thanks, and Sorry.
Calling all Chefs, esp. Att users...help please?
Can someone please create a cab file for the HTC Video SHare (Version 1, Build 31407). This is in the newest Att release from 6/15/08, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400276
I have no idea how to do this, and I an frankly surprised that no other Att user is interested.
I appreciate any help...oh, and yes, I searched for it!
Mods-(please delete if neccassary)
I realise this is probably not the best way to appraoch this but i have posted questions in the Att thread, and PMed ATW. Since i haven't recieved any responses, I thought I would post here because this is usually the only thread i check regularly.
Anybody?
Is there a older version avaliable?
Moving to software forum.
I suggest changing the name. You are much more likely to recieve help using a title more suited to your goal, i.e. "Looking for Video Share cab".
how to make a cab file, first search first result.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-234387.html
Thanks for the Advice GEleon....
After i posted it I realized it looks a little shwag, If i make a new topic can you move this there? It won't let edit the Title...
And, by the way...other guy...I meant i searched for the cab, not for how to create a cab...I have downloaded Alex's Rom Kitchen, with all the intentions of "cooking" my first rom, but....uh....yeah...I am retarded. I majored in Philosophy and then went to law school, needless to say any computer knowledge i have is completley self taught....ok enough of my bull$hit excuses for being lazy...I just wanted to clarify that I do my due diligence when it comes to searching for material i am intersted in...I just can't, or won't take the time to learn how to download a rom, extract the data, and create a cab file for a program i thought for sure other users would have an interst in....ok, enough of that...
p.s.
in a wierd way, i like how it is cut throat in here, and how after 5-6 posts on a subject, i have gotten 1 move, 3 complaints, and 1 I would like it too...It instills an efficency standard where "If you have something to say...you better be sure!"
I guess so...
SH4YD33 said:
Is there a older version avaliable?
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Apparently, the Rom that contained the radio from hell had the first version, and it has since been updated, according to the release notes from the newest Att Rom version...This brings me back to my initial skepticism, I thought for sure there would have been atleast a mention of it, if not a cab file floating around..???
exzist78 said:
Can someone please create a cab file for the HTC Video SHare (Version 1, Build 31407). This is in the newest Att release from 6/15/08, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400276
I have no idea how to do this, and I an frankly surprised that no other Att user is interested.
I appreciate any help...oh, and yes, I searched for it!
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As far as I know AT$T Video Share is not supported by the Kaiser (or visa versa ).
Also the thread you noted does not contain an official AT$T release. It is a leaked test rom. Which is why AT$T was no help, and why more AT$T stock rom users are not more interested.
Looking for Video Share Calling Cab
This is the Rom that contains the application, I know next to nothing about interdepedancies, so sorry if this request seems retarded or whatever...I am hoping there is atleast 1 other Att user interested...I know the service is a Rip off, but I have allways wanted to try it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400276
You are correct, but they are evidently implimenting it
I worked for Att during my undergrad, about 2 years ago; my brother is a manager for a couple stores owned by an Authorized Agent, so i have some close relationships...regardless, i have the video share calling on my ohone now because I put that Rom on it; however, i would love to take it off so if i have a cab file then i would feel more secure in it....
So, if there are any users who currently running this rom, and live in the Chicago Area, I can add the video share calling (either pay per use, or whatever) to your account so we can test this
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This is the Rom that contains the application, I know next to nothing about interdepedancies, so sorry if this request seems retarded or whatever...I am hoping there is atleast 1 other Att user interested...I know the service is a Rip off, but I have allways wanted to try it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400276
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So How many threads asking the same thing are you going to post?
I personally think one is plenty.
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So How many threads asking the same thing are you going to post?
I personally think one is plenty.
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Get em jimmy
interested!!
Man...I feel so Gotten :-(
How many threads are required before 1 user posts anything useful? What is a less efficient use of this sites resources, asking a question in multiple places, or 9 smug filled "hardcore" senior members setting a n00b straight by commenting with attitude! Bring the flames, I posted the same question all over the place and still haven't gotten 1 credible response, I am going crazy, maybe next I will drive without a seatbelt, or worse ask a question to an online communitiy that not a single person is required to view, only to be subjected to weak criticism..."dwah...how many times are you gonna post this (imagining baby Huey)....dwah"....yeah...get'em.....i mean come on, who is wasting their time to be so damn lame...the dreaded "senior" member....
Can we atleast look into the cab file, i would rather someone post the file with a password, share it with everyone except me, and atleast move this waste of my life forward....Kewllll
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How many threads are required before 1 user posts anything useful? What is a less efficient use of this sites resources, asking a question in multiple places, or 9 smug filled "hardcore" senior members setting a n00b straight by commenting with attitude! Bring the flames, I posted the same question all over the place and still haven't gotten 1 credible response, I am going crazy, maybe next I will drive without a seatbelt, or worse ask a question to an online communitiy that not a single person is required to view, only to be subjected to weak criticism..."dwah...how many times are you gonna post this (imagining baby Huey)....dwah"....yeah...get'em.....i mean come on, who is wasting their time to be so damn lame...the dreaded "senior" member....
Can we atleast look into the cab file, i would rather someone post the file with a password, share it with everyone except me, and atleast move this waste of my life forward....Kewllll
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Oh, How wise. Let's criticize someone who was going to help you. But you know what. NO. I don't want to now. I'm going to stop digging through the Packages I have and Not Make you a CAB. There, Happy?
You need only post it once. THEN, Wait. Cluttering up the forum is a no-no. It makes it harder to search and find stuff. I could tell you wanted the CAB so I was using my resources and connections to help. Because that's what I do.
If you are going to act all holy, now I don't want to. And its not because you made fun of me. I don't care. Its your "I don't like the customs of the forum so I'm not going to follow" them attitude. When you come to a forum treat it like a good friends house. Repect people.
Remember we are all volunteers here. We don't owe you anything. And Being rude is not going to convinece anyone to help you. Read these while your at it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=681487&postcount=1
Not sure if that's what you want. I found the stock HTC6.1 disable videoshare by default and I can enable it by changing the registry as follow:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Camera\Video]
"EnableQuickSendVideoShare"=dword:1
We'll 2 things Confirmed...
1. I used the Video Share Calling today and successfully placed and recieved video share calls. As expected, the payoff was hardly worth all of the commotion; even considering I had been expecting some form of Video Calling since the TyTn was released with a front facing camera, only to be dissapointed when the US version launched without it. Then, after Cingular (Att) launched the Video Share Calling Service, I was certain they would bring the Kaiser across the pond with the front facing camera...after all that build up it was pretty weak, but I still would rather have the option than not. So, it is confrimed that it works, but not very consistantly. However, it is not a "ship" rom..so maybe they can work out the final bugs
2. The other confirmed phenomenon seems to be the i have offended all of the people who's work i have appreciated over the last year. It really wasn't my intention, but I do think too many people are quick to complain about the length, size, location, and ripeness of nearly any question (can you hear me Pureskillz); but such is the nature of the premier source of all things XDA. So, I apologize to the other Att users that this may have benfitted, but after so many "flame" style posts, I start to find the ridiculous "My keyboard is mapped incorrectly" bug reports to be quite funny...To everyone else, sorry if I offended any of you, but maybe we all can take it easy...
Yup I'm an asshole what can you do?
Is that really what you took form that?
Jimmy,
Seriously, i have no beef with you...My comments are aimed braodly at many individuals that have an extremely narrow view of what a "proper" post is, or should be; thus, they feel inclined, no, obligated to bash any slight deviation. Unfortunatly, you happen to be the one that said how many threads are you going to create. I know you probably were unaware that i created 3 threads, in 3 different places and i left instructions for a mod to move to a proper thread...Subsequently, Gleason moved one other thread to this particular forum, and then recomended I modified the Title. So, I attempted to do just that, then realised that i was unable to modify the title so I asked him to delete the thread, and I would create a new one with the proper title he suggested...Long story short, there is defintly a sort of harshness that detracts from the community spirit that this site is based on. Further, I find it ironic that the fundamental reason for having a policy of restricted postings is to maximize efficency; yet, there tends to be just as many if not more "negetive," or "harsh" posts as there are unqualified ones...
Hey all,
This is my first post on here so be gentle please!
I just got a touch Diamond and i love it, My boss got the new iphone and he has all those apps where u press a button and it fills with beer or a chick comes out and washes the inside of the screen. What i am wondering is, Is there any like those for the Diamond? Or could any of you very kind developers hack one or make one that would work?
I mainly want the one where the chick comes out an cleans my screen coz im a perv!!
Thanks in advance!
I have seen pretty much everything else from the iphone come over to our phones so I'm sure it is out there somewhere (cannot say that I have seen it yet though)
i know its early days at the mo, so i dont mind waiting for this stuff but if anyone has or does see anything like these two apps for the Diamond then id really be interested !
ibeer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3MfQIswl3k
iwash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqkKhh45df8&feature=related
ipopcorn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toROK6C5U-Q
really, really very important subject and posted not in "diamond", no.....it has to be started in "ROM development"...keep spamming! keep pushing the real important stuff to the 2nd and 3rd pages with yr spam. please read the rules, read a few posts, understand the way this forum is build and only than post. no, there is no development of beer/popcorn gifs/effects here ! iPhone needs this kind of stuff to be appealing and to make ppl forget that it is not coming even close to the the apps of diamond. yes, judging by his size he can be good at making popcorn!
where are the mods? where?
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really, really very important subject and posted not in "diamond", no.....it has to be started in "ROM development"...keep spamming! keep pushing the real important stuff to the 2nd and 3rd pages with yr spam. please read the rules, read a few posts, understand the way this forum is build and only than post.QUOTE]
He's right guys, this isnt the place to post or ask for this kind of Icrap.
If you want to post about such stuff,go to diamond general forum. And keep this place ONLY for ROM development. thank you.
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mightycaz said:
Hey all,
This is my first post on here so be gentle please!
Thanks in advance!
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Post in the right place or.... all your base are belong to us.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
that is all.
Mod.. please move this outta here. And feel free to delete this this comment also.
@mightycaz:
Thats no app. Thats a video in fullscreen. Even the Today-Screen is faked.
You start the video, then 7 seconds it shows the Today-Screen, then it fills in the Beer. Same with the naked girl...
sorry guy
.... and pls move this thread!
There is a post in the this topic about a lightsaber app that uses the acceleromitor (SP?), and i noticed none of you guys had gone in there to flame the guy who made that post!
Surely these are the same kind of things, The beer app isnt a video. As i said in my fist post my boss has the iphone an that app an it's no video, it moves as you move you're phone around.
If you have a problem with where a post is put then all you had to do was alert a mod or ask for it to be moved not go an Epeen mission. I signed up to these forums because ive been reading through them for about 2 years lookin for advice or cool apps for my older PDA's that ive had an this didnt seem like the kind of place where people were arse's for no reason!
I guess i was wrong.
There is a post in the this topic about a light saber app that uses the acceleromitor (SP?),
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no, the post is in the "diamond" section not "diamond rom development"
the guy posted where this kind of things should be posted and he posted an application not questions about some hypothetical, nonexistent applications.
the space in this forum and in the first page specialy is "expensive".
ppl are watching posts regarding ROMs and important stuff related to diamond. each time a noob start a thread like yrs he pushes the really important stuff to the next pages.
what's so difficult to understand and to accept? why argue?!
nobody asked from you explanations or apologies. all we are asking you is to stop. come and check the forum from time to time and if there will be such an application you'll see it posted exactly like the saber....got it?
one thing more...stop asking here stuff that you see on iPhone...this is a diamond forum and we don't really love the "i" word.
now, are we OK? should i explain it to you again? with simpler words? should i bring here a few more members to ask you nicely to "let it go"????
Thank you for helping us keep this forum clean and please don't slam the door!
P.S.
congrats to your boss for his fine taste and choice of PDA!
mightycaz said:
i know its early days at the mo, so i dont mind waiting for this stuff but if anyone has or does see anything like these two apps for the Diamond then id really be interested !
ibeer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3MfQIswl3k
iwash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqkKhh45df8&feature=related
ipopcorn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toROK6C5U-Q
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Well, that's cool. The first time...
So you got flamed, so what?! the point of that is you have to learn from it. and if you have read these forums for two years you should know by now to post in the correct thread and the correct forum for your questions or needed advice. Everyone here is willing to point you in the right direction but some people react different to wrong posts etc.. but hey,eveybody is different and also you can have a bad day or be cranky,so dont be sad about it, just go to the right forum and thread and someone will help u if they can. keep the peace. greetings
I want the one where a girl actually apears out of nothing Cleans the drewl from my chin, then from my phone and then magicly makes a thread move to different forums.
That would be kewl.
I've taken a look at some of the apps.
They got one mayor Plus.
They look good.
But most of them aren' t that functional. (from what i've seen)
But that might also change.
Chapeau Steve Jobs, for bringing out this SDk that will allow for all these great apps that most consumers seem to want.
Is there a Remote Desktop app for the Iphone BTW?
I like general ChitChat.
As long as it stays just that Chit Chat.
The Diamond has been with me ever since it was released in June, but there always seems to be this or that issues with every ROM release.
I'm considering the E71 as a replacement...but also trying to hold off on the purchase to see will the Diamond improve anytime soon.
Issues with my Diamond:
Accelerometer
Alarm sound not repeating
Memory leak
why everybody that think about changing the diamond feel the urge to announce it in a new thread that is coming to become a mess like all the same threads on the same subject? why? you are a senior member, you should know better.
i recommend you to read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415852
and afterward do what u please. no big deal...good luck!
please keep the forum clean!
I "Should"? "Senior" member doesn't mean jack as it's only post count related.
I don't see why that thread is recommended...maybe I'm missing something?
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The Diamond has been with me ever since it was released in June, but there always seems to be this or that issues with every ROM release.
I'm considering the E71 as a replacement...but also trying to hold off on the purchase to see will the Diamond improve anytime soon.
Issues with my Diamond:
Accelerometer
Alarm sound not repeating
Memory leak
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and... ? This was so important that you had to open a new post?
Buy E71 and Good Bye Or maybe I should try to convince you not to do it or something
I will open a new post tomorrow saying what I've ate at lunch :]
The forum will be then definitely more readable.
100% AGREE wit KukurikU.
Simply the fact that this thread is useless, doesn't bring any information, plus the facts cited are plainly wrong in my experience.
That's all you're missing. Good bye and good luck with your new phone. The corresponding forum awaits you.
Hum...why even bother to reply to a useless thread?
Why have the urge to convince someone that your view is more correct than others?
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Hum...why even bother to reply to a useless thread?
Why have the urge to convince someone that your view is more correct than others?
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Do you actually have something to say and contribute to this forum, or are you just trying to be controversial?
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Do you actually have something to say and contribute to this forum, or are you just trying to be controversial?
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"contribute" in the form of "useful information": no.
But I do have a question: With all the devices from HTC in the past, do they perform better over time, with newer ROM releases? Does HTC bother much with ROM updates even after the launch of each product? I guess I should have posted the "question" in the first post of this thread...but then again...it wouldn't be considered as useful information. Given this, it's why I'm trying to hold off my other purchase.
P.S. Not directed at anyone, but, some people on these forums just have a "I'm better than you" complex and have the urge to reply to threads saying "why start a new thread". Geez...just don't reply to it, it'll eventually be history and move itself down the list of threads. Unless you're the administrator concerning with storage issues.
i want my 2 mins back...
well I dont have a problem with the Accelerometer or the Alarm sound not repeating, and the memory leak for me stabilises at 70% and stuff works fine and fast 4 me even then... go buy you symbian device if you want and perhaps get an iphone while your at it, good luck and good bye.
Leave the guy alone!
chatbox, i too just got the E71 after having the DIamond since its release, infact i think this will be my last Windows Mobile Phone well at least till windows 7 comes out.
I got so sick & tired of every rom, having either issues, or being slow at "certain" tasks & also the fact that with WMP's you need 2-3 steps to do the same task in 1 step on say a Nokia. Also once you use hard buttons like the keyboard on E71 you'll hate touch screen keyboard were its slow & many mistakes.
I will though miss flashing roms & trying diffrent tweaks in the registery etc..etc..
But honestly its a phone & i need 3 major tasks in a phone.
Simple, Fast & stable.
If u try the E71, i promise u wont regret it bro.
I think chatbox is desperately trying to find some solution for diamond problems he is suffering from using this thread. A last try just before leaving the boat.
I dont tink that is wrong from him. After all this community forum is all about assisting each other. If he is asking for help or openion that will not mess up the forum
Senior Members... we highly appreciate your contributions to make or lives easier using diamond and making this forum the most comprehensive information / tools source all over the web however dont expect that all other members are as good as you in the know-how issue so please bear with us
Cheers
Enough!
Enough of this!