A question for all you developers out there.
I tried searching but got nowhere...apologies if my search-skills suck.
I am on UK Orange with the "evening and weekend" (sorry-excuse-for) data plan that I would like to use a bit more effectively.
So my basic question is : Is there a way to switch data connections on a schedule?
Essentially I'd like my Kaiser to run a scheduled task to change the data connection from "My Work Network" to "Orange Internet" but only do so when the "free" data starts. It could then go and retrieve my email without me worrying about running up a data bill.
This would work really well for people who work on/near a computer (and have net/email access through the day) but want email to arrive in the evenings.
I could do the development in a jiffy on XP, but I know nowt about WM platform development.
Just curious if anyone had a similar thought or even better - a solution
Thanks!
By the way, the 15% of this site I do understand - rocks!
I am learning, though...
www.commmgrpro.com, try bandswitch or comm manager
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Subject says it all.
AS works (usually) for a while after reset, but then it just hangs saying "Synchronising" but gets nowhere.
Sometimes killing and restarting AS works, but usually I have to reset the damn thing.
Anyone else having this problem/found a solution? Not sure I'll get any sense from Orange (in fact, I am sure I'll get sod-all sense from them!)
Ferg.
P.S. Got HTC Home, iMate WMP Today, Live Search, Voice Command and many other apps installed. Perhaps it doesn't like Home or so.
More likely its a connection thing.
Try disabling advanced functionality in Start, settings, connections, USB-to-PC
That will make it try a USB connection instead of an IP based one.
Sorry, I should have said I was referring to AS on the device itself - it's Direct Push that's mucked up.
I meant on the device... but that was based on AS with pc
However, if you have an exchange server in the mix, then I would guess it either is losing the connection to the server. What happens if you leave it until it errors? (ie what error code)
Can you sync with the server OK when you do connect with USB to an internet enabled pc?
Well, the funny thing is it doesn't give me an error (or I've not waited the hours required for it to time-out).
The TyTN I have works a lot better under the same circumstances (same Exch, same account, sam SIM card etc, so it would deffo point towards the TyTN II itself.
The only thing left to do, I supose, is to ramp up the Exch logging and see what that says, but I wouldn't hold out too much hope of that.
Thanks for your assistance, unwired.
F.
Ok so its definitely the device...
Do you have signal issues on 3g where you are? Is your network allowing simultaneous voice and data? Have you installed the server certificate OK on your device?
Yeah, all the Exchange stuff is configured correctly - that's my job after all.
No 3G issues (since I use the TyTN from the same place.
Although I did notice recently that I can't actually have adata connection and a call at the same time (with 3G coverage). I guess I should be able to...
F.
sorry to bring up an old post,
having same sort of problem, but only when trying to get attachments. seems to take forever, (5-10 mins stuck on syncing then looks like it gives up) but the attachment is then there, which is crazy as its a 30k word doc which should take seconds.
did you work out any kind of solution?
edit: this is on a clients kaiser
Having decided last weekend that my Kaiser was way too fast, I loaded it up with bloatware.TouchFlo,HTC Cube,6 Tab Home Plugin,New HTC Default Theme,Audio Manager, Home Customizer,Comm Manager and Kaiser Tweaks. Most of it I loaded as .cabs or .zip thru Missing Sync for Mac. I also downloaded Windows Live Services and set up push email for my @live account. Everything works great except the phone now spontaneously connect to MediaNet (Edge) all day for no reason. The connection is not followed by email or anything else, it just connects. When I check Task Manager 95% of the time Activesync is running but not always. Have set Activesync from " as they arrive" to manual. The phone still connects for no reason. The notification that the phone is connecting comes up , I press cancel, right away it tries to connect again and again and again, then stops and five minutes later it will connect again. I know this is long but I know how you all like enough info.Any thoughts on causes or solutions?
The phone is doing what AT&T (or your phone service) told it to do - constantly make sure that you have a connection to them. This will drain your battery somewhat. What you want is that it should DROP all connections unless you TELL it to connect.
I think that you want to search for Kaiser Tweak -(oh wait! you already have that program) you will notice that you can make the phone connect only when you have told it to - i.e. make an internaet connection or check email. You can have the phone drop the connection one minute after that.
Have you actually used the Kaiser Tweak program? If not you should use it first/next.
I believe that this will most likely solve your problem if I have understood it correctly.
(PS - I recommend that you use the SEARCH at the top of the forum before posting next time.)
Bill
denco7 said:
Having decided ...Any thoughts on causes or solutions?
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Thanks Bill...... Already went thru Kaiser Tweaks and set every single setting to advised setting. Set all the connection settings to connect manually and to drop the connection after one minute. It wil not do either.Google is my friend. I have google searched this forum and have used forum search. In the past two days Mon. and Tues. I have read thru more than 2000 posts and wikis before I decided to start a new thread if I have missed something I am Sorry and would have appreciated a link to this information that I have missed. I have had the phone since last Nov. and have been pretty faithful in reading this and the HTC wiki and forum and cannot figure this out.
Sorry again, Denco
Hi,
I have my HTC TyTn II here, and I wanted to reflash the ROM, which would of course mean the loss of all data on the phone/PDA.
I have backed up all my regular files (documents, emails, music etc.) but just as I was double checking I had everything backed up, I stumbled on my connections page, and realised that my connection details/login/settings hadn't been backed up (and of course why should they be?). Of course this is where the problem lies, I remember the host and all the information that is given to you, except the password is an obscure one I cannot for the life of me remember, but it is saved to the phone and all I see are ***'s. Is there any way of retrieving this password? I want to have an internet connection after I flash the new ROM, but I don't remember the password. (Is there a registry key I have to look at? Or an application that does it?)
If revealing the password is not possible, is there a solid means of backing it up?
By solid means, I don't mean, "Try this it may work" only to find out it doesn't work and have no connection for ages.
I have full access to the rest of the phone (of course!...in case you were suspecting otherwise...).
I really appreciate any help I receive on this!
If nobody has an answer, I suppose I will have to stick will this slow bloatware filled, old, brick of an OS (im sure you know what im talking about!)
Thanks again,
J250
most of the latest roms have a "connection wizard" that will detect your network and configure your device with the proper data connection settings.
If the rom doesn't have it, you can find that cab on xda-devs and install it
also whats stopping you from calling your provider and getting the settings from them? Finally have you tried searching xda-devs (or google) for your providers connection settings?
Hi,
Thanks for the quick reply. I should have made it more clear, the settings are not the default providers settings, they are on the phone too, but I know how to obtain those. Also, I did not know windows mobile would automatically try to obtain your settings, thanks for the info
It is an external provider, and I don't feel like rummaging around a mass of paperwork looking for a string of characters! (Only as an absolute last resort).
I have done some more research, and I found PocketAsterisk, which seemed to be perfect in theory, but in practise it didn't work.
Again, any help appreciated!
I absolutely love my kaiser. I upgraded from a Wizard a few months ago, I went through 4 of them, but I havent really done much with my kaiser, only flashed the rom a few times. I'm with AT&T and I don't have a data plan so when I had my Wizard I somehow disabled (on purpose) my phone from being able to dial AT&T to establish a data connection while at the same time still being able to use Wifi whenever I wanted. I want to do the same thing but the settings are all different on the kaiser and I dont want to make a mistake and get charge up the ass by AT&T for accidentally transferring data. I would appreciate any help someone could give me on what settings to change to disable.
No problem man.. use this program.. it works great... It will install a program that will allow you to turn off any internet data connections (just be sure to go into your programs menu and click both options to DISABLED )
Hi,
My blackstone connect to the internet service automatically draining my prepaid load.
Is this the same in all the WM 6.5?
WM6.1 doesnt do this. It only connects when I need it.
Does anyone have a fix on this. No push internet doesnt seem to solve this problem in my HTC BS.
Thanks
gilbert_xda said:
Hi,
My blackstone connect to the internet service automatically draining my prepaid load.
Is this the same in all the WM 6.5?
WM6.1 doesnt do this. It only connects when I need it.
Does anyone have a fix on this. No push internet doesnt seem to solve this problem in my HTC BS.
Thanks
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try xannytecks 1.9
I found the problem finally.
Go to Setting -> Data Services -> Time Synchronization.
Just uncheck everything there.
Internet service connect
Hi,
Thank you for your help.
I will try it immedietely
thteong said:
I found the problem finally.
Go to Setting -> Data Services -> Time Synchronization.
Just uncheck everything there.
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Seems like it doesn't work =(
The data connection still insist and consume the battery
sunnymiu said:
Seems like it doesn't work =(
The data connection still insist and consume the battery
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Because that was not the root cause ...
Actually the cause of the so called problem is a lack of understanding of the basic WM and HTC data connection settings and more specifically the way the two operate together, or don't in this case. In fact there really is no problem and nothing specific to the WM6.5 ROMs. This auto data connection behavior existed in my stock WM6.1 ROM way back in the dim old days.
Let me try to explain it this way.
First thing to understand is that there are two controls for Data Connection. A HTC TF3D/Sense one which everyone knows as Comm Manager. The second deeper level one is the WM6.X one which you will find at Settings > Connections > Connections > Advanced > Select Networks > Your Cellular Operator Settings (GPRS Settings).
The second thing to understand is that when you do a hard reset as you must when you flash a ROM, the Auto Connection Setup process will automatically select for you and set the GPRS settings on by default. So, deep down there, WM6.x has set you up to use a data connection automatically whenever your mobile needs a data connection and your WiFi is disabled. This happens for example if your email is set to auto download every so many minutes. Remember, email is a WM6.X service.
The third thing to understand is that the HTC Comm Manager really only controls data connections from the HTC interface, ie. TF3D/Sense. For example, if you do a weather update, this is a TF3D/Sense service. So if you turn off Data Connection in Comm Manager it will just turn off data connections to the interface. But lets say your email does an auto send and receive, because the WM6.X GPRS setting is enabled, a data connection will take place regardless of what you did in the Comm Manager.
So how to get around this problem? Easy! Go to the WM6.X setting for Connections that I pointed out above. After entering 'Select Networks' use the drop down box to select 'My Work Network' in the upper setting for programs that automatically connect to the internet. This will totally disable your data connection and it will not turn on again until you do the reverse.
Now, to turn data back on, you don't need to go into WM settings. You will find that the Comm Manager is sort of connected to the WM6.X setting. Turn on Data Connection in Comm Manager and you will find that it brings up the WM6.X Connections settings so that you can go to the drop down box and re-enable your Cellular operator's settings for GPRS. After clicking OK a few times you will end up back at Comm Manager where you turn on Data Connections. If you skip this last step, it will turn on automatically anyway when a program calls for a data connection.
Now the quirk is that Comm Manager is not connected to the WM6.x settings in the same way when you want to turn Data Connection off in Comm Manager. In other words it does not take you back to the WM connection settings when you turn it off as it does when you turn it on. As I showed you above, you have to do it the long winded way and dig deep into WM6.x Connection settings to turn off your cellular data connection. Yes sure, Comm Manager could definitely have been better built in this regards. But it has been like this since day 1.
Programs such as NoData which some chefs cook into their ROMs provide shortcuts to reach those deep WM Connections settings. But frankly, once you know where to find the settings, it becomes second nature and I have never had the need to use NoData.
Anyway, hope this helps.
i loved yr explanation but: i had never this "problem" in WM6.1 even when i always kept the "programs that automatically connect to the Internet......" settings to "orange 3G" (my portal) and only the "programs that automatically connect to a private network..." on "My Work Network".
after 5-6 years of heavy WM use (look at my sig/list of devices) this is the first time i encounter this problem.
I think Clicking on a Nodata shortcut would be much faster than going through all those steps. I hope a solution is found soon. But all ROMs I have tried have this same problem. no mail accounts setup nothing. It still try's to connect.
Turn off my location settings. Also check if "automatically update weather" is turned off.
Did the trick for me on all 6.5 ROM's.
Workaround:
1. Before flashing any Rom, remove the Sim card.
2. After flashing, uncheck "Enable Auto Configuration" from connection setup.
3. Put Sim card back and have a peace of mind.
AbdullahSZ said:
Workaround:
1. Before flashing any Rom, remove the Sim card.
2. After flashing, uncheck "Enable Auto Configuration" from connection setup.
3. Put Sim card back and have a peace of mind.
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Heh ... if you did it this way you won't have any MMS (unless you put it in manually) or Data connection when you want to turn it on.
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I think Clicking on a Nodata shortcut would be much faster than going through all those steps.
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Yep ... NoData is a solution.
I kind of grew into the habit of drilling down for the GPRS setting from the days when ROMs were not cooked with NoData or equivalents. Problem with these shortcuts is that for some it meant that the basic WM settings were never learnt, so when something goes wrong or a chef does not cook it in, the user gets lost. This is the same problem with the MMS connection issue in M2.5. The cause of the problem here, from my own experience, is with the updated WM Connections Auto Config putting in the wrong MMS access point settings. So when that happens, those who never learnt how to do it manually in WM get stuck.
Imperium said:
Turn off my location settings. Also check if "automatically update weather" is turned off.
Did the trick for me on all 6.5 ROM's.
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This does not work for me. I have tried any of the turn off methods and nothing has worked. Going to try what abwyatt has suggested and see if this helps. To me this is a real big problem for some people. Even for me I have a 20 hr data plan for 1 month for about 7.00 USD after that it charges by the mb. Just last night on my last flash I was tired and forgot to enable nodata and woke up this morning and the data connection had been active for 9 hrs.
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Moved to general discussion as not technically related to rom development
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Mod Edit
Moved to general discussion as not technically related to rom development
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I would differ on that. It is directly related to problems with WM 6.5 ROM's. And not only as users but as cooks we are looking for answers as well. Moving to General section just assures the problem will not be addressed by our cooks here that may find a solution.
Just my opinion
bobsbbq said:
I would differ on that. It is directly related to problems with WM 6.5 ROM's. And not only as users but as cooks we are looking for answers as well. Moving to General section just assures the problem will not be addressed by our cooks here that may find a solution.
Just my opinion
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Point taken and I agree with your comments above. To to show users that we Mod's do listen as well, I will happily move this thread back to rom development
Thank you, and it's good that you see both sides.
I disabled mine from Settings>Data Services>ActiveSync>Sync data automatically
Now I only get auto connected after soft reset, then just disable from Comm Manager>Data Connection>Off and it doesn't connect by itself anymore
But still works when needed for weather mail etc.
Just to put my 2 cents on the table here. All wm6.5 roms I've tried have had this and I generally install NoData for quick fix, but after a period of time it started to bug me. So upon further investigation it did turn out to be an app seeking automatic update, whether it was email, QuickGPS, weather, stock, facebook, activesync or some other app. Having gone through all these apps or whatever apps installed on rom and then disabling them, the problem seizes to exist. The confusing thing is that it is not consistent, i.e. with different rom's it appears to be a different app which caused the issue!!
I've tried ROM like PhamQhuang, MaryOne etc. I think the problem is from HTC sense, if we switch to HTC sense off or set to windows default the auto connection working well (not reconnect when we off data connection)