Why all WM6.5 ROM Autoconnect to the Internet Service - Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development

Hi,
My blackstone connect to the internet service automatically draining my prepaid load.
Is this the same in all the WM 6.5?
WM6.1 doesnt do this. It only connects when I need it.
Does anyone have a fix on this. No push internet doesnt seem to solve this problem in my HTC BS.
Thanks

gilbert_xda said:
Hi,
My blackstone connect to the internet service automatically draining my prepaid load.
Is this the same in all the WM 6.5?
WM6.1 doesnt do this. It only connects when I need it.
Does anyone have a fix on this. No push internet doesnt seem to solve this problem in my HTC BS.
Thanks
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try xannytecks 1.9

I found the problem finally.
Go to Setting -> Data Services -> Time Synchronization.
Just uncheck everything there.

Internet service connect
Hi,
Thank you for your help.
I will try it immedietely

thteong said:
I found the problem finally.
Go to Setting -> Data Services -> Time Synchronization.
Just uncheck everything there.
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Seems like it doesn't work =(
The data connection still insist and consume the battery

sunnymiu said:
Seems like it doesn't work =(
The data connection still insist and consume the battery
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Because that was not the root cause ...
Actually the cause of the so called problem is a lack of understanding of the basic WM and HTC data connection settings and more specifically the way the two operate together, or don't in this case. In fact there really is no problem and nothing specific to the WM6.5 ROMs. This auto data connection behavior existed in my stock WM6.1 ROM way back in the dim old days.
Let me try to explain it this way.
First thing to understand is that there are two controls for Data Connection. A HTC TF3D/Sense one which everyone knows as Comm Manager. The second deeper level one is the WM6.X one which you will find at Settings > Connections > Connections > Advanced > Select Networks > Your Cellular Operator Settings (GPRS Settings).
The second thing to understand is that when you do a hard reset as you must when you flash a ROM, the Auto Connection Setup process will automatically select for you and set the GPRS settings on by default. So, deep down there, WM6.x has set you up to use a data connection automatically whenever your mobile needs a data connection and your WiFi is disabled. This happens for example if your email is set to auto download every so many minutes. Remember, email is a WM6.X service.
The third thing to understand is that the HTC Comm Manager really only controls data connections from the HTC interface, ie. TF3D/Sense. For example, if you do a weather update, this is a TF3D/Sense service. So if you turn off Data Connection in Comm Manager it will just turn off data connections to the interface. But lets say your email does an auto send and receive, because the WM6.X GPRS setting is enabled, a data connection will take place regardless of what you did in the Comm Manager.
So how to get around this problem? Easy! Go to the WM6.X setting for Connections that I pointed out above. After entering 'Select Networks' use the drop down box to select 'My Work Network' in the upper setting for programs that automatically connect to the internet. This will totally disable your data connection and it will not turn on again until you do the reverse.
Now, to turn data back on, you don't need to go into WM settings. You will find that the Comm Manager is sort of connected to the WM6.X setting. Turn on Data Connection in Comm Manager and you will find that it brings up the WM6.X Connections settings so that you can go to the drop down box and re-enable your Cellular operator's settings for GPRS. After clicking OK a few times you will end up back at Comm Manager where you turn on Data Connections. If you skip this last step, it will turn on automatically anyway when a program calls for a data connection.
Now the quirk is that Comm Manager is not connected to the WM6.x settings in the same way when you want to turn Data Connection off in Comm Manager. In other words it does not take you back to the WM connection settings when you turn it off as it does when you turn it on. As I showed you above, you have to do it the long winded way and dig deep into WM6.x Connection settings to turn off your cellular data connection. Yes sure, Comm Manager could definitely have been better built in this regards. But it has been like this since day 1.
Programs such as NoData which some chefs cook into their ROMs provide shortcuts to reach those deep WM Connections settings. But frankly, once you know where to find the settings, it becomes second nature and I have never had the need to use NoData.
Anyway, hope this helps.

i loved yr explanation but: i had never this "problem" in WM6.1 even when i always kept the "programs that automatically connect to the Internet......" settings to "orange 3G" (my portal) and only the "programs that automatically connect to a private network..." on "My Work Network".
after 5-6 years of heavy WM use (look at my sig/list of devices) this is the first time i encounter this problem.

I think Clicking on a Nodata shortcut would be much faster than going through all those steps. I hope a solution is found soon. But all ROMs I have tried have this same problem. no mail accounts setup nothing. It still try's to connect.

Turn off my location settings. Also check if "automatically update weather" is turned off.
Did the trick for me on all 6.5 ROM's.

Workaround:
1. Before flashing any Rom, remove the Sim card.
2. After flashing, uncheck "Enable Auto Configuration" from connection setup.
3. Put Sim card back and have a peace of mind.

AbdullahSZ said:
Workaround:
1. Before flashing any Rom, remove the Sim card.
2. After flashing, uncheck "Enable Auto Configuration" from connection setup.
3. Put Sim card back and have a peace of mind.
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Heh ... if you did it this way you won't have any MMS (unless you put it in manually) or Data connection when you want to turn it on.

bobsbbq said:
I think Clicking on a Nodata shortcut would be much faster than going through all those steps.
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Yep ... NoData is a solution.
I kind of grew into the habit of drilling down for the GPRS setting from the days when ROMs were not cooked with NoData or equivalents. Problem with these shortcuts is that for some it meant that the basic WM settings were never learnt, so when something goes wrong or a chef does not cook it in, the user gets lost. This is the same problem with the MMS connection issue in M2.5. The cause of the problem here, from my own experience, is with the updated WM Connections Auto Config putting in the wrong MMS access point settings. So when that happens, those who never learnt how to do it manually in WM get stuck.

Imperium said:
Turn off my location settings. Also check if "automatically update weather" is turned off.
Did the trick for me on all 6.5 ROM's.
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This does not work for me. I have tried any of the turn off methods and nothing has worked. Going to try what abwyatt has suggested and see if this helps. To me this is a real big problem for some people. Even for me I have a 20 hr data plan for 1 month for about 7.00 USD after that it charges by the mb. Just last night on my last flash I was tired and forgot to enable nodata and woke up this morning and the data connection had been active for 9 hrs.

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Moved to general discussion as not technically related to rom development

Fallen Spartan said:
Mod Edit
Moved to general discussion as not technically related to rom development
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I would differ on that. It is directly related to problems with WM 6.5 ROM's. And not only as users but as cooks we are looking for answers as well. Moving to General section just assures the problem will not be addressed by our cooks here that may find a solution.
Just my opinion

bobsbbq said:
I would differ on that. It is directly related to problems with WM 6.5 ROM's. And not only as users but as cooks we are looking for answers as well. Moving to General section just assures the problem will not be addressed by our cooks here that may find a solution.
Just my opinion
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Point taken and I agree with your comments above. To to show users that we Mod's do listen as well, I will happily move this thread back to rom development

Thank you, and it's good that you see both sides.

I disabled mine from Settings>Data Services>ActiveSync>Sync data automatically
Now I only get auto connected after soft reset, then just disable from Comm Manager>Data Connection>Off and it doesn't connect by itself anymore
But still works when needed for weather mail etc.

Just to put my 2 cents on the table here. All wm6.5 roms I've tried have had this and I generally install NoData for quick fix, but after a period of time it started to bug me. So upon further investigation it did turn out to be an app seeking automatic update, whether it was email, QuickGPS, weather, stock, facebook, activesync or some other app. Having gone through all these apps or whatever apps installed on rom and then disabling them, the problem seizes to exist. The confusing thing is that it is not consistent, i.e. with different rom's it appears to be a different app which caused the issue!!

I've tried ROM like PhamQhuang, MaryOne etc. I think the problem is from HTC sense, if we switch to HTC sense off or set to windows default the auto connection working well (not reconnect when we off data connection)

Related

Spontaneous Connection

Having decided last weekend that my Kaiser was way too fast, I loaded it up with bloatware.TouchFlo,HTC Cube,6 Tab Home Plugin,New HTC Default Theme,Audio Manager, Home Customizer,Comm Manager and Kaiser Tweaks. Most of it I loaded as .cabs or .zip thru Missing Sync for Mac. I also downloaded Windows Live Services and set up push email for my @live account. Everything works great except the phone now spontaneously connect to MediaNet (Edge) all day for no reason. The connection is not followed by email or anything else, it just connects. When I check Task Manager 95% of the time Activesync is running but not always. Have set Activesync from " as they arrive" to manual. The phone still connects for no reason. The notification that the phone is connecting comes up , I press cancel, right away it tries to connect again and again and again, then stops and five minutes later it will connect again. I know this is long but I know how you all like enough info.Any thoughts on causes or solutions?
The phone is doing what AT&T (or your phone service) told it to do - constantly make sure that you have a connection to them. This will drain your battery somewhat. What you want is that it should DROP all connections unless you TELL it to connect.
I think that you want to search for Kaiser Tweak -(oh wait! you already have that program) you will notice that you can make the phone connect only when you have told it to - i.e. make an internaet connection or check email. You can have the phone drop the connection one minute after that.
Have you actually used the Kaiser Tweak program? If not you should use it first/next.
I believe that this will most likely solve your problem if I have understood it correctly.
(PS - I recommend that you use the SEARCH at the top of the forum before posting next time.)
Bill
denco7 said:
Having decided ...Any thoughts on causes or solutions?
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Thanks Bill...... Already went thru Kaiser Tweaks and set every single setting to advised setting. Set all the connection settings to connect manually and to drop the connection after one minute. It wil not do either.Google is my friend. I have google searched this forum and have used forum search. In the past two days Mon. and Tues. I have read thru more than 2000 posts and wikis before I decided to start a new thread if I have missed something I am Sorry and would have appreciated a link to this information that I have missed. I have had the phone since last Nov. and have been pretty faithful in reading this and the HTC wiki and forum and cannot figure this out.
Sorry again, Denco

Internet while connected to Activesync..

Hi all,
I am on Dutty's apr-29 rom and here is my issue..
My kaiser is connected to my work pc with activesync installed and i am unable to use internet on my device... I can update htc weather with no worries but the pie and skyfire doesn't work... the strange thing is that netfront browser works just fine so iam not sure if its a proxy issue or not???
I would like to use skyfire if possible so pls let me know what can i do to make it work.
Thanks alot
First thing I'd try is to reboot the computer AND soft reset the phone. If that doesnt work, try disabling advanced network... under connections usb to pc.
ps- in the future, its recommended NOT to start a new thread for something like this, but post it in the rom's thread (duttys in your case)
hi, i have the same problem...but I still using the standard ATT rom...
ajmoncrief said:
First thing I'd try is to reboot the computer AND soft reset the phone. If that doesnt work, try disabling advanced network... under connections usb to pc.
ps- in the future, its recommended NOT to start a new thread for something like this, but post it in the rom's thread (duttys in your case)
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Hi,
Thanks for the quick reply, I tried what you suggested but still no luck..
I honestly don't know...the fact that you are able to update the weather but not others has me stumped. Has it always behaved this way? Can you do a complete system backup using sprite and hard resest, before you restore, connect it to activesync (you do not need to configure it to sync with your device, iow just cancel the first screen) and see if you can use pie or check your email. If you can then there must be a problem with your settings somewhere, but if you cant then just use sprite for a full system restore and you should be back to where you were and maybe someone else can help.
For what its worth when I first got my tilt it would not use the internet no matter which way I tried (ota or activesync). Then it magically just started working.
hello once again,
Ok so here is the thing... i played around with it a bit more and was able to get pie to work.. but everything else still doesn't work (windows live, skyfire, etc..)
I went to connections>>advanced>>select network>> on this screen i selected "My ISP" for the top menu and "My Work Network" for the bottom menu... By making this change pie is now working but still no luck with skyfire..
Note: i do not have a data plan so MY ISP menu is empty, i usually use skyfire with wifi or when connected to my laptop at home
PS: I didn't do a hard reset because i dont think it has anything to do with rom upgrade...i have flashed my device like 47 times in last 2 months and have had the same issue with every rom i've tried including the original htc rom. Everything works jsut fine when when my device is connected to my laptop at home using activesync.
I think you would still have the problem after a hard reset. Mine has the problem now on the standard Tilt ROM. The wierd part is it didnt when I first set it up and was running the internet through cerdisp. I guess I need to look into it too, but I havent been going crazy trying to find it.
What version of activesync are you using?
Iam using Activesync 4.5..
Have you tried disabling your windows firewall?
Dumb Question
If the phone is connected to your work PC, why would you use the browser on the phone and not the work computer?
If you are worried about what the boss might see - here's the problem with that - can't they just monitor the server traffic anyway, whether you use the phone or the computer, since you would be using the work's server?
What i do at work - first make sure there are no keyboard loggers - second use the internet on the phone and disable the ethernet on the computer.
I remember an option somewhere in the syncing process about allowing income data connections - I dont know exactly what it does, but i will try to find it and post something
EDIT - it was an option to allow wireless incoming data to phone while connected to activesync.
If your talking about tethering, then you're doing it wrong.
Make sure your Activesync isn't connecting to your phone in the first place. Turn off the "USB" connect in the settings for Activesync.
THen go on your phone and open up the "windows" and look for a file called "intshr" or something like that. Open it up and then hit connect.
You don't need to change any settings for the Media Net if you're using the AT&T rom.
larcen007 said:
If the phone is connected to your work PC, why would you use the browser on the phone and not the work computer?
If you are worried about what the boss might see - here's the problem with that - can't they just monitor the server traffic anyway, whether you use the phone or the computer, since you would be using the work's server?
What i do at work - first make sure there are no keyboard loggers - second use the internet on the phone and disable the ethernet on the computer.
I remember an option somewhere in the syncing process about allowing income data connections - I dont know exactly what it does, but i will try to find it and post something
EDIT - it was an option to allow wireless incoming data to phone while connected to activesync.
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Well the only reason i wanna use my device and not the work pc is beacuse all the major sites like hotmail, youtube, facebook are blocked but they all work on my device using "only" netfront browser..
Cheers
Xyberz said:
If your talking about tethering, then you're doing it wrong.
Make sure your Activesync isn't connecting to your phone in the first place. Turn off the "USB" connect in the settings for Activesync.
THen go on your phone and open up the "windows" and look for a file called "intshr" or something like that. Open it up and then hit connect.
You don't need to change any settings for the Media Net if you're using the AT&T rom.
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Thanks Bud,
will give it a go and report back...
PS: i just noticed that windows firewall is enabled and i dont have access to disable it :-(
you must edit the registry
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows CE Services]
"AllowLSP"=dword:00000000
ld-runner said:
you must edit the registry
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows CE Services]
"AllowLSP"=dword:00000000
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I am creating a new key under: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows CE Services
Called AllowLSP ??
Cheers
farhanali_ said:
I am creating a new key under: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows CE Services
Called AllowLSP ??
Cheers
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yes, or you could just copy and paste my post into a file with and extension called .reg , save it and double click on it.

problems since ROM upgrade

I have worked in IT support for 8 years at the desktop support level. I dont understand all but can usually figure things out. I apologies in advance for being a rookie. I am frustrated with this device and need help!!
I upgraded ATT tilt to Dutty 6.1 Build 19700.duttys 6.1 about 1 month ago and Since I did this I have had a lot of problems. Build has all the goodies and more but since the upgrade I cant get any work done because I am always tweaking in an attempt to get the device working properly. I have tried to reset and reflash sevral times to start all over again but I end up with the same issues.
1. Unable to sync with active sync. I have disabled avast anti and I still am unable to sync. I also added port 990 to firewall and no good. I have re-installed active Sync 5 times. It only works when I play with it and then the device does not stay connected. It boots the connection 1 or 2 minutes after sync
2. No email apps or programs work. I tried the java versions and all. Messaging says error synchronizing and gives this message - "cannot cannect with current connection settings. To change your connection settings tap settings" My settings are OK as far as I can see. I purposely connect to media net before opening email to make sure the data connection is present. I had full blown HSDPA in NY city yesterday and no email or GPS working.
3. GPS and GPS upgrade is not working. Does GPS use its own radio? Does dutty upgrade break the radio? Not sure what is happening here as well.
4. No you tube video as usual. This has always been broken and remains broken for me. I tried installing flash bundle, codecs, etc.... No good.
I constantly get prompted the below
"cannot cannect with current connection settings. To change your connection settings tap settings"
Only thing that works is web browser.
Can someone please point me to a good solid working and mostly complete ROM for the US att tilt "kaiser". Maybe this is all I need. I have trouble finding ROM info and whether its current via the site. It gets confusing and I just want to set up once and forget, if you know what I mean. Please provide any links I might need to a fix, rom, tweak, etc..
Please help!
Steve
Steve, I updated to Dutty's ROM a while ago and all worked well until about a couple of weeks ago. I do not attribute my problems to the ROM though but rather the Tilt itself. My first issue was related to no activesync connectivity. My Tilt became an "unknown" device. Looking at my USB port from inside of the battery compartment notice bent pins. I was able to straighten the pins out but only could connect with one of about 10 USB cables that I had around. Once you have loaded Dutty's room I would recommend reconfiguring your connectivity to AT&T. You can download a CAB with all of the configuration setting on this board. Recently my touch screen would freeze up and not work well. I thought it might be the ROM but later found out there must have been some physical problem. Two days ago I called ATT and RMA'd my phone. I recieved the new phone yesterday and configured it last night. All is working well (USB and Touchscreen, new ROM, New SPL and new radio).
BTW last night saw (do a google search - I don't remember where I saw it) a revised video / flash version of TCXXXX software. With Dutty's ROM (and current) my GPS worked great. I use it with a couple of test GPS programs and TomTom on Com4. I also have an external BT GPS and it works well with that. Check to make sure your email is not configured for a proxy or local network connection.
Pete
Thanks Pete, Since this post I have gotten the GPS to work. There is a GPS app in programs\tools that has an enable option. I stumbled across it looking for answers. Ill check the pins on my cable as well.
Dutty's connections wizard actually had the wrong info for ATT america. I had to remove ID and password to get it working for Media Net so I hope the cab you reference is a newer one than is on my tilt.
I am still getting the same message for email. "cannot cannect with current connection settings. To change your connection settings tap settings"
I have to be missing something in the connection settings. I will try the cab, maybe it has been updated since Dutty's build.
Can you think of any thing in the connection settings?? Opera works but email gets error and message to check connections.
Ill let you know how that works.
Here are the essential 3 cab files you need for your Tilt.
1) fixes keyboard
-Install, soft reset, done
2) Sets At&t settings
-install, set up email but do not save your password
then do this
start>settings>connections>connections>advanced>select networks>change both drop downs to media net>click edit on both drop downs and go to proxy settings here you will uncheck everything. remember to do it to both dropdowns.
3) removes hidden proxy (which will allow your email to work if you are using a saved password)
-install, then go to your email set up and save your password.
edit: This will also allow you to update htc weather, quickgps, and a number of other programs without receiving errors.
good luck and have a nice day

IGO8 Using AGPS...unwillingly & Continuous Active Sync

Whenever I use iGO8 and tap the ''coordinate" button, then close iGO8, it shows that 3G is on. While I turned it off before I started iGO8, so I'm suspecting that iGO8 used the 3G connection for AGPS...
However, I couldn't find an option to turn AGPS off in the iGO8 program...so is it really using 3G? What would otherwise be the reason that it's automaticly switched on whenever I use iGO8?
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2nd question:
After flashing Swiftbl's rom, Active Sync keeps on popping up, everytime I close it, it restarts itself in ~5-10minutes....anyway to fix this?[Note: it's not connected to my computer or any other stuff]
Anybody with any idea?
Search in the Tweaks section, or use Advanced Config - they will help you turn AGPS off.
About ActiveSync - it's a normal Windows behaviour, there's nothing you can do about it, but also no harm done (it takes very little memory).
pedmond said:
Search in the Tweaks section, or use Advanced Config - they will help you turn AGPS off.
About ActiveSync - it's a normal Windows behaviour, there's nothing you can do about it, but also no harm done (it takes very little memory).
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It's not actually normal Windows behaviour, depending on the ROM you flash, and your various configurations / programs, it will sometimes happen and sometimes not. I flashed Dutty's 2.2 and it started happening so I immediately flashed Swift 7.0 and it didn't.
There is a solution in the Dutty's ROM thread - something about setting a background program exclusive - search and apply. I believe it's worked for other people.
Gary.
pedmond said:
Search in the Tweaks section, or use Advanced Config - they will help you turn AGPS off.
About ActiveSync - it's a normal Windows behaviour, there's nothing you can do about it, but also no harm done (it takes very little memory).
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I've already turned it off with Adv Config, but ...3G still keeps on starting whenever I run iGO8.[not sure if it's just the icon popping up though]

NOKIA to HTC newbie questions

Hi Guys,
I am coming from Symbian to Windows Mobile. I have a HTC Fuze and can't seem to figure a few things out.
1. In Nokia (Symbian) you can setup your email and other data services to use your home wi-fi when you are in home. When you are outside, it will use 3G/GPRS etc. automatically (once preferred access points are setup). I can't figure this out with HTC FUZE. Everytime I have to turn on and off the Wi-FI Connection (Connection Manager -> wi-fi ON or OFF). if I leave it on, it keeps popping up with networks that it finds. If I leave it Off, it doesn't use wi-fi to retrieve emails and other things when am at home. I am sure this should be easy... Help !!!
2. When I set my phone in Vibrate mode, it doesn't even play music through headphones. I have to set it "ON" mode for it to even play music. This is annoying. At work, I want the phone to be in vibrate mode but still listen to music through head phone every now and then and not worry about my phone ringing. Is there a simple fix? Am I missing something??
3. When the phone is in Vibrate mode, I would like it to vibrate for incoming emails. it does not do that.
4. What is the best recommended "TODAY" Screen plug-in/program for wm 6.5 other than the titanium one?
I am using NATF's Win 6.5 latest ROM.
I appreciate all your help.
Best,
venkss said:
Hi Guys,
I am coming from Symbian to Windows Mobile. I have a HTC Fuze and can't seem to figure a few things out.
1. In Nokia (Symbian) you can setup your email and other data services to use your home wi-fi when you are in home. When you are outside, it will use 3G/GPRS etc. automatically (once preferred access points are setup). I can't figure this out with HTC FUZE. Everytime I have to turn on and off the Wi-FI Connection (Connection Manager -> wi-fi ON or OFF). if I leave it on, it keeps popping up with networks that it finds. If I leave it Off, it doesn't use wi-fi to retrieve emails and other things when am at home. I am sure this should be easy... Help !!!
2. When I set my phone in Vibrate mode, it doesn't even play music through headphones. I have to set it "ON" mode for it to even play music. This is annoying. At work, I want the phone to be in vibrate mode but still listen to music through head phone every now and then and not worry about my phone ringing. Is there a simple fix? Am I missing something??
3. When the phone is in Vibrate mode, I would like it to vibrate for incoming emails. it does not do that.
4. What is the best recommended "TODAY" Screen plug-in/program for wm 6.5 other than the titanium one?
I am using NATF's Win 6.5 latest ROM.
I appreciate all your help.
Best,
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1) I think you can go to Settings>personal>Sounds&Notifications and turn off the found new network notifications on the notifications tab (you also may be able to settings>wifi and change whether it scans or not, scanning seems like it would drain the battery)
2) The volume screen usually (depends on rom) has two tabs, one for sounds, one for ringer, so you could have sounds but vibe instead of ringer. Other than some 3rd party service that switches the volume settings based on the headphone port, i think that's about as good as it gets.
3) In that same settings>personal>sounds menu, you can change the new email notification to vibrate or sound and vibrate or whatever. it has to include vibrate in that setting though to vibrate ever.
4) I like the old-school HTC Home, or similarly SPB PocketPlus or SPB Diary. If you're looking for something fancier, lots of people use the Touchflo 3d (which can work in 6.5) or SPB Mobile Shell (there's a demo of version 3 on their website)
Hope I helped some, I know the windows mobile limitations can be annoying, but they're pretty minor overall (imho). All things considered, I've been a big fan for years, you just need to use a lot of 3rd party apps and tools.
Good luck, finding XDA was probably the best thing I ever did for my WinMo phone, hope you have the same experience.
Thank you very much for your reply. I can't seem to find the setting that you mention for turning off wireless scanning. Is this because of the ROM?
Also, if I have both Data Connection and Wi-Fi connection enabled, and say for example run Opera, how do you know which connection it is using? How do we change/specify the connection that opera uses? I am just using Opera as an example... bigger question is emails.
venkss said:
Thank you very much for your reply. I can't seem to find the setting that you mention for turning off wireless scanning. Is this because of the ROM?
Also, if I have both Data Connection and Wi-Fi connection enabled, and say for example run Opera, how do you know which connection it is using? How do we change/specify the connection that opera uses? I am just using Opera as an example... bigger question is emails.
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Hmm, I think I may have made that setting up
As long as your email account is set to use your Internet Connection (versus Work Connection), which should always be the default, and when you first connected to your wifi, it should have asked something like "This networks connects to: <radio buttons> The Internet, Work Network". As long as everything is "The Internet" you should be good. I don't know how to double check what connection it is actually using except looking at the activity light on your access point, but it should always use wifi over cellular data if wifi is available.
As far as the scanning / battery life, the performance slider in wifi was all i could find. I just use the Comm Manager to toggle wifi as needed, but admittedly I don't use it alot. I could see it being annoying.
So the nokia would know when you were by certain wifi spots and connect, without killing the battery life completely by having wifi on 24/7? That's pretty sweet...
I wonder if it just low power scans Wifi AP's every 5 min or so, maybe someone could make a similar WinMo Service?
I know this is way off topic for this thread, but if anyone has a more raphael specific programming guide, I'd appreciate a link.
I'm taking a look at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa457716.aspx
to see how hard programming is.
Both the headphone thing and the wireless thing would be nice to have as features. I'll see what I can do, but I've never developed for WinMo before, so absolutely no promises on anything =)
Thanks again, Friend.
You are right. I am not sure what happens in Nokia whether it does a low power scan or something... but when you turn off "Wireless scanning" in Nokia, it doesn't aggressively pop up available networks... thats all.
The way I used to do this in Nokia is through preferred access points. You would setup your wifi as your preferred and then the secondary access point would be AT&T network. Whether I use profimail (email client) or fring (chat voip client) they all had such a setting and somehow used wi-fi when I am at home without me doing anything.
BTW, the battery life did suck on my N95 8GB HTC so far has given me way better battery life than the Nokia.
For now, I will leave my WiFi On and see what happens.
The headphone thing is bizarre... I cannot adjust the phone volume only (1st slider bar on that screen) without adjusting the ringer volume. They move together on that screen. I am now in doubt of the ROM... so may be I will try just the plain vanilla Da_G ROM.
I need one general advice - For a newbie like me to winmo who is learning the basics of winmo, should I stay with stable, established ROMs than going to winmo 6.5 right now? should I go back to winmo 6.0? what do you think? Can you suggest a good ROM? I don't need/care to use the TF3D.
I get a lot of emails with attachments and one of the MAIN reason I came to HTC was the ability to edit/read/create Office documents. I will be happy if I can simply tune my HTC to be a good business user phone.
I appreciate your replies. Thanks much!!
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Thanks again, Friend.
I need one general advice - For a newbie like me to winmo who is learning the basics of winmo, should I stay with stable, established ROMs than going to winmo 6.5 right now? should I go back to winmo 6.0? what do you think? Can you suggest a good ROM? I don't need/care to use the TF3D.
I get a lot of emails with attachments and one of the MAIN reason I came to HTC was the ability to edit/read/create Office documents. I will be happy if I can simply tune my HTC to be a good business user phone.
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As far as that goes, I've only used 6.5 for a few days, the deal breaker for me was SPB Diary not working (and SBSH Breeze, i tried both, they do the same thing). I NEED them for getting work done. For some reason it doesn't pull calendar data in 6.5, so I've always used 6.1 ROMS.
I'm actually recently back on EnergyRom2.0 from 4/16/09 (the version without TF3D is my favorite ROM ever, i think) but am tempted to tryout the Gen.Y R3 rom, which is a much newer 6.1 that's supposed to be stable, it's built off his popular HTC Diamond ROM and has the newer goodies like wifi data sharing built in. (i think)
Monx's ROMeos is on his site, you have to donate to get download access, but he has some very nice, fast, stable WM6.1 roms I've used before also.
I think at this point, at least with WM6.1, most of the established roms are fast and stable, it comes down to what you like bundled with it, and what looks good to you.
If you haven't seen it, I'd check out www.blownfuze.org, he talks more about 6.5 roms, and a LOT of other essentials for your phone. (in a very entertaining fashion)

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