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There are two listed tweaks for preventing the Diamond from turning the screen off during a call. I've done them both, and nothing happens. Are these tweaks confirmed to work for all phones, or just on some? It says the "Sleep" one works on european ROM -- do all European phones have the same rom?
I'm having a simmilar problem... It seems that the screen turns off after a set period of time... I thought that the light sensor was supposed to only shut the screen off when you bring it up to your ear, light gets dull... I have the phone sitting in well lit room and done got near it yet the screen still turns off..?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406094&page=2
give it a shot
I've read that if you remove the stylus while in a call, then the note program comes on automatically, but the screen will also stay on until the call is finished
There are two listed tweaks for preventing the Diamond from turning the screen off during a call. I've done them both, and nothing happens. Are these tweaks confirmed to work for all phones, or just on some? It says the "Sleep" one works on european ROM -- do all European phones have the same rom?
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there are more and they are the right ones. it is the light sensor. do a search. this forum has already too many posts on this subject.
here u have one that is called "(Solved for diamond) How to disable fast dormant display during call?"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406094&highlight=Screen+call
PaulusUK said:
I've read that if you remove the stylus while in a call, then the note program comes on automatically, but the screen will also stay on until the call is finished
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yes, you are right and this is in my humble opinion the best solution. this way even if u touch with yr ear/cheek the screen no funny noises and no unwanted programs popping up not to mention that this way u have the choice and if you don't need the screen it stays black.
If you want to turn your screen back on during a call just simply press the round center button once and it will turn back on. no need for any hacks.
Thanks for the help
From what I have read, the phone screen should only turn off the screen when you bring it up to your ear/there is low light on the light sensor in the handsets ear speaker... My phone's screen shuts itself off after 3 seconds or so, doesnt matter where light is... If you just disable fastdormant (1 to 0), does the phone still shut itself off after x seconds or does it wait until there is a change in light?
Can anyone confirm/clarify the above???
Also is it possible to reactivate the display once the phone detects a sizeable change in brightness again? From reading the links posted, no one has found a solution for this one yet..?
The screen will not turn off as long as you continue to touch the center button during call. The default setting work fine with me until I need to get information during a call yesterday. The center button touch allow you to use other functions during phone call.
[EDIT] STRANGELY ENOUGH, AFTER ENTERING THE REGISTRY AND JUST LOOKING AT THE VALUE OF THE KEYS HAS SOLVED THE PROBLEM BELOW...
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My problem is that my phone won't go into the sleep mode when calling. Covering the phone doesn't help (I've tested the light sensor, and that still works)
For me this feature is a positive thing so I would like it to work again.
The registry entry for the EnableFastDormant is still on "1". The HTC Phone Skin is loaded (without that skin it doesn't work either).
When searching the forum I come across people who want their screen to stay on... I want the opposite to happen again. Anybody a suggestion?
205_lacoste said:
My problem is that my phone won't go into the sleep mode when calling. Covering the phone doesn't help (I've tested the light sensor, and that still works)
For me this feature is a positive thing so I would like it to work again.
The registry entry for the EnableFastDormant is still on "1". The HTC Phone Skin is loaded (without that skin it doesn't work either).
When searching the forum I come across people who want their screen to stay on... I want the opposite to happen again. Anybody a suggestion?
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Check this reg entry as well:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Phone\Sleep - 1
HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LightSensorPollingEnable - 1
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\BatteryTimeoutInCall - 5
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\BatterySuspendTimeoutInCall - 5
Also,
Start - Settings - System
Power
Advanced
Check the following:
Turnoff Backlight if device is not used for 30 Sec
Turn off Device if not used for 40 sec
All the best
Note: After changing Registry Entries.. (if you had to).. do a soft reset.
205_lacoste said:
[EDIT] STRANGELY ENOUGH, AFTER ENTERING THE REGISTRY AND JUST LOOKING AT THE VALUE OF THE KEYS HAS SOLVED THE PROBLEM BELOW...
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Problem solved by looking at the values...
wow.. now that has to be the BEST and the EASIEST TWEAK IN HISTORY!!
L o r d R a j said:
Problem solved by looking at the values...
wow.. now that has to be the BEST and the EASIEST TWEAK IN HISTORY!!
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I know... However, it bothers me as it doesn't really show realiability. Why didn't it work in the first place!? I'm experienced enough to know that I didn't do anything to the registry.
205_lacoste said:
I know... However, it bothers me as it doesn't really show realiability. Why didn't it work in the first place!? I'm experienced enough to know that I didn't do anything to the registry.
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**** happens mate... no point in beating yourself over it.
Besides - it's WINDOWS - since when did Windows care about RELIABILITY.
Chill.
Let's just hope it keeps working.
Problem with 1.93 ROM
Hey,
I cant seem to get the screen to stay on during a phone call using Asia WWE 1.93 ROM....
I have got BattTimeoutIncall = 0
BattSuspendIncall = 0
Phone\Sleep = 0
EnableFastdormant = 0
but the screen still turns off if i leave the phone sitting on the desk under light exactly when the call time ticks over to 4 sec (0:03 to 0:04)...
Ideas anyone, is this an issue with v1.93 rom?
Thanks.
this works!
Does this still enable the light sensor???
Still want the light sensor to work - i.e. turn off the screen when i bring it up to my head...
NightWolf88 said:
Does this still enable the light sensor???
Still want the light sensor to work - i.e. turn off the screen when i bring it up to my head...
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i dont think it disables it, but you can enable it either way with diamond tweak.
Blazeitup123 said:
i dont think it disables it, but you can enable it either way with diamond tweak.
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Thanks for that
It works, but when I enable the light sensor polling in reg it goes off after about 4 secs... This is with a very bright light and no movement of the phone (sitting on flat surface)...
the only on of thos I see in my reg is HKCU phone sleep
where the hell are the others?
alexfendi said:
If you want to turn your screen back on during a call just simply press the round center button once and it will turn back on. no need for any hacks.
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This is actually the best option because it turns off the screen when you want to conserve battery life.
So I just press the Center button when I want to see the screen to use the keypad or speakerphone.
Also, I have disabled the phone shade (curtain) by doing this:
Code:
HKLM/Software/HTC/Phone/PhoneLockEnable = 0
Hi,
Since the Diamond does not ring or vibrate when reveiving a new email while beeing in sleepmode i want to know if there is a way to completely disable sleepmode and just turn off the screen instead.
Try search... sms wakeup is one of the fixes you need.
I allready did that, and its working. But the diamond still doesnt wake up when i receive a new email. (I am using Windows Live pushmail)
superkeks said:
I allready did that, and its working. But the diamond still doesnt wake up when i receive a new email. (I am using Windows Live pushmail)
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Since im not using mail on my phone i dont really know, but im sure ive seen it somewhere.
Check link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=14379943
Sorry, maybe i am stupid, but i read all those threads allready and i couldn't find a solution. So if there is one, please give me the direct link. Thanks!
Don't know if this will help, but give it a shot anyways - since there doesn't seem to be a solution readily available.
Start-Settings-System
tap on Power
Go to Advanced Tab
Uncheck - 'turn off device if not used for. '
If that doesn't work - 'try unchecking turn off backlight' as well (doubt that's a really smart idea.. but what the hell)
Do let us know if this helps you out.
Logically speaking - that should work, but then - we are talking about Windows here.. logic usually takes a back seat when it comes to windows.
I mean - if it weren't so, then how come a windows mobile phone doesn't alert you when you receive an email!!
**** happens eh.
anyways - thanks to the developers on the forum who are coming out with tweaks and fixes and solutions.
Appreciate it, mate.
L o r d R a j said:
Don't know if this will help, but give it a shot anyways - since there doesn't seem to be a solution readily available.
Start-Settings-System
tap on Power
Go to Advanced Tab
Uncheck - 'turn off device if not used for. '
If that doesn't work - 'try unchecking turn off backlight' as well (doubt that's a really smart idea.. but what the hell)
Do let us know if this helps you out.
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It sure helps him, but the battery power will be gone in notime.
w3pp3 said:
It sure helps him, but the battery power will be gone in notime.
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Well..... as you can see
superkeks said:
Hi,
i want to know if there is a way to completely disable sleepmode and just turn off the screen instead.
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HE ASKED FOR IT
Yes that does work of course. But with the screen allways on, the battery sucks. I only want to disable sleep-mode. I still want the device to turn off the screen and backlight and see how much battery it needs.
Device to turn off - means Sleep mode!
Options -> Sounds and Notifications -> Notifications -> Messaging: New e-mail message
Turn vibrate and sound on. Why its disabled as default i dont know.
The screen wont turn on, but it will probobly vibrate and sound.
With the backlight switching off on its own - you should have SOME saving on the battery (hopefully)
w3pp3 said:
Options -> Sounds and Notifications -> Notifications -> Messaging: New e-mail message
Turn vibrate and sound on. Why its disabled as default i dont know.
The screen wont turn on, but it will probobly vibrate and sound.
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To be on the safe side - Check DISPLAY MESSAGE as well.
That should (technically) wake up the phone... right?
L o r d R a j said:
To be on the safe side - Check DISPLAY MESSAGE as well.
That should (technically) wake up the phone... right?
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It probobly wont, why should everyone ask for sms wakeup in that case?
It still does not wake up with display message on.
When i disable sleepmode by choosing "device to turn off" i have the problem that the display stays on. It does reduce the backlight, but it is still on and eats the battery really fast.
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It probobly wont, why should everyone ask for sms wakeup in that case?
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Well, one can always try.
Actually for me - the SMS thing was weird (before applying the tweaks i.e.).
I had enabled Display Message, Sound and Vibrate ..
Now when I tested it - it worked.. but I was surprised that it would work only for CERTAIN service providers!!
now.. when I would get a text message from an MTC number (my provider) it would alert... and vibrate and display the message.
But if I would get a text message from Wataniya (another provider in the country), No alert, No Vibration!!
L o r d R a j said:
Well, one can always try.
Actually for me - the SMS thing was weird (before applying the tweaks i.e.).
I had enabled Display Message, Sound and Vibrate ..
Now when I tested it - it worked.. but I was surprised that it would work only for CERTAIN service providers!!
now.. when I would get a text message from an MTC number (my provider) it would alert... and vibrate and display the message.
But if I would get a text message from Wataniya (another provider in the country), No alert, No Vibration!!
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Thats really wierd, i havent noticed any of that.. (yet)..
Well.. the registry tweak sorted it out
Not working, please help.
L o r d R a j said:
Don't know if this will help, but give it a shot anyways - since there doesn't seem to be a solution readily available.
Start-Settings-System
tap on Power
Go to Advanced Tab
Uncheck - 'turn off device if not used for. '
If that doesn't work - 'try unchecking turn off backlight' as well (doubt that's a really smart idea.. but what the hell)
Do let us know if this helps you out.
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I have tried that, and every time i restart the phone the box is once again checked automatically?
I want the phone on all the time, since I just have to press the power button to set the phone in sleep mode.
It is very frustrating when chatting over msn and the phone goes to sleep all the time.
Is there a register tweak to fix this issue?
Thanks in advance.
[sticky!!!!] The "answer Only With Hw Buttons" option or similar solution...
...a lot to read... and a lot of solutions!
thank you guys!
Just an Idea... maybe its possible to set the Touchscreen sensitivity to VERY low everytime there is incoming Phone call. And then you cant accidentially press one of the onscreen buttons. However, i think registry entries only change after a softreset. MAybe there is some workaround?
this solution will affect the entire normal use of the diamond. :-(
anyone knows a cook?
it can't be so difficult.
I'm willing to pay the money saved in missed calls in one week. It could be a lot, for sure...
Agreed! it would be a great feature to have
diamondino said:
this solution will affect the entire normal use of the diamond. :-(
anyone knows a cook?
it can't be so difficult.
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Well actually i meant it a different way. Imagine.. There is an incoming Call... This call is recognized, and the touch sensitivity is set to very low. After the call is done, or the call is taken, the sensitivity is restored..
yep... but i suggest this like a second try....
the easiest way is to create a new phone skin.
the best is a "only hw buttons" option
i can't believe to the drink beer app... useless but true... and nothing about this bug... it's incredible.
I would be satisfied to have ALL the hardware keys to be locked during incoming calls and the screen locked and need to unlock the screen with ie a slide before be able to answer... As the hardware buttons also is easy to press when it's in the pocket when your sitting etc.
diamondino said:
I think we're half a million to damn this bug.
WE ALL NEED to lock the screen buttons.
WE ARE BORED of losing calls or answer accidentally taking out the diamond from our pockets.
WE NEED A SOLUTION.
WE DON'T WANT S2U2 AS A WORKAROUND.
HELP US.
AND YOU'LL BE REWARDED.
['cos right now... we still spending money on calls we miss. s##t.]
support this thread.
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I don't get it. My on/off button is set to lock all other buttons when the device is off, apparently meaning the display. At calls the display is off after a few seconds and I have two choices to bring it back - push the on/off or remove the stylo causing notes to launch. Hence the only insident where I can see a problem is when the display is trickered to go on (alarm or incoming call) and it's way down the bag you may push something. Here I suspect the solution is to have it in a pouch. Anyway, I have seen many yields about this so i'll surely be victimised one day as well.
Its a really challenging app to make.
Think about it. How can u lock the keys yet mantain the ability to answer anytime with one button.
Tough call
maybe using the light sensor ... in the pouch screen off- out the pouch screen on
emilceteras said:
maybe using the light sensor ... in the pouch screen off- out the pouch screen on
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what if your are in the dark? I think the best solution is to make a dialer without the buttons
pcharouz said:
what if your are in the dark? I think the best solution is to make a dialer without the buttons
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touch he screen to go on
emilceteras said:
touch he screen to go on
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then were back to square one were it dials lol
cornelious2 said:
then were back to square one were it dials lol
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No, touching the screen will not bring the screen ON, the only thing that will bring the screen ON is pressing a hard key.
It's an excellent idea to make the light sensor feel if it's in the dark, and if so shut down the screen, the only problem is that nobody knows how to reliably do this for all ROMs (even official).
Take a look here guys... already lots of posts on this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402916&page=10
1 a new phone skin without any buttons is the easiest solution i guess
2 changing the sensibility pressure works only on soft reset
3 light sensor... nice, but i don't think it's the best way to do this
isn't a predefined "lock screen" function on the diamond?
i'm a developer but i dunno nothing about pda application... i think it's weird if no one thought to a simple "block screen" function.
emilceteras said:
maybe using the light sensor ... in the pouch screen off- out the pouch screen on
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pouch....hated the thing...go on
i don't think many people are using the pouch now there is more choice
counterfitninja said:
Take a look here guys... already lots of posts on this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402916&page=10
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take this thread like an official request...
anyway, IF anyone konws how to work for developing a new phone skin... i'll do it. but i'm not into pda since this diamond and i dunno where to start...
The feature for muting incoming call when screen faces down, isnt this turned on by standard? Cuz mine doesnt work. I try to call it and turn it screen-down but doesnt work. I also found a registry value that i thought was for this feature but i dont think that worked either. Can anyone tell me what to do, and knows that it works 100%?
is your accelerometer calibration? it is possible it ain't calibrated correctly and phone can't tell if it's faced down.
AF241 said:
is your accelerometer calibration? it is possible it ain't calibrated correctly and phone can't tell if it's faced down.
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Yes it is. Ive got the calibrator installed. And calibrated. Is this feature normally on as standard?
It came as standard on my device.
flying-trickster said:
The feature for muting incoming call when screen faces down, isnt this turned on by standard? Cuz mine doesnt work. I try to call it and turn it screen-down but doesnt work. I also found a registry value that i thought was for this feature but i dont think that worked either. Can anyone tell me what to do, and knows that it works 100%?
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open "search". write "face down", got:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403381&highlight=screen+face
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398224&highlight=screen+face
after that i tried with "mute when face" and got:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403381&highlight=mute+face
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=404193&highlight=mute+face
1. i recommend you to to the same (search before u post).
2. if the value of the reg HKLM\Software\HTC\PHONE : FaceDownMuteRing: is "0" (as it was once written in the "tweaks" post) change it back to "1"
3. trickster, looking back at yr posts....there is something that works on yr diamond? problem, after problem, after problem...
No, nothing works on it Im struggling
Try grabbing the phone from the earpiece area (top) and flipping its face down.
It worked out of the box in mine.
Why not try and get yours exchanged from the shop where you bought it from?
Are you using the old-style WM phone skin? If so, this feature only works with the new (default) Diamond phone skin.
Mathew
Im using the normal skin that was on the phone when you get it. Or wait. I think i turned off something called: Phone -> Skin / Disabled. Maybe thats why? I read that this would stop the ring delay.
Yes, disabling the new phone skin does seem to stop/reduce the ring delay...
...but it also takes out the mute-when-faced-down feature (and the vibrate-on-connect one too)!
Mathew
Scuse my ignorance here but what is "Mute Call on screen down" supposed to actually do? Does it:
1) Mute the microphone during a call in progress. or..
2) Silence a call when ringing and send it to your message bank.
3) Silence the ringer if you turn the phone over to face the table - the phone keeps on ringing (silently) however until your voicemail kicks in so your caller doesn't know you're 'ignoring' them.
Mathew
MJNewton said:
Yes, disabling the new phone skin does seem to stop/reduce the ring delay...
...but it also takes out the mute-when-faced-down feature (and the vibrate-on-connect one too)!
Mathew
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I see. So. I think ill reenable the skin. But what IS the "phone skin" anyway? Does it look different when i get a call? Never tried, disabled it right after i got the phone. im gonna try and enable it back.
Aalright, i tried to reenable, and yes it worked. I could now face it down to mute calls. But. It seemed like there was a 3 second delay before the phone would recieve the call. So i disabled the skin once again, and noticed there is still a 1-2 second delay even without skin. So i, reenabled skin after all. 1 more second of delay is no harm if i can have the "mute when face down" feature, although i'd much rather have the skin disabled to get zero delay. But i guess this cant be done.
MJNewton said:
3) Silence the ringer if you turn the phone over to face the table - the phone keeps on ringing (silently) however until your voicemail kicks in so your caller doesn't know you're 'ignoring' them.
Mathew
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Aha.. thanks now I get it.
Put my sim card in the compact 4 for the first time today as I sent my artemis off under warranty to be serviced (last day of 2 year warranty was today, cutting it fine! lol). During a call, the screen goes off after 4 seconds and I have to press the on/off button at the top to get the screen back. It's not the backlight dimming, it's effectively turning the phone off. I''ve checked in settings/system/power/advanced and there's nothing in there that points to this. I saw someone else mention this too but I don't think he got a solution. Why is it going off? Is it a phone problem or it's meant to happen? It's terrible. This doesn't happen when the phone is plugged in and charging during a call.
This is intended functionality: it saves battery and stops you pressing on-screen buttons with your ear (this is more of a pain in the a** than you'd first think...!). There are probably ways to turn this off, but I'm not sure how - it doesn't bother me.
There must be some advanced config tool/settings on this site somewhere for it.
BLCollier said:
This is intended functionality: it saves battery and stops you pressing on-screen buttons with your ear (this is more of a pain in the a** than you'd first think...!). There are probably ways to turn this off, but I'm not sure how - it doesn't bother me.
There must be some advanced config tool/settings on this site somewhere for it.
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Thanks for the info. Nah, this is bloody terrible, I can't be doing with the screen going off all the time. I never had a problem with the artemis and that had on screen buttons that could be pressed. Does anyone here have a tweak/cab file for this?
Screen off!
Personally, I like my screen going off - it saves a lot of battery and it only takes a tap of the centre button to put it back on anyway
If you really can't stand it, install Advanced Config by Schaps (attached) - I can't remember exactly where the setting is, but you can adjust it with this tool... and a shed load of other useful tweaks too
grahamkdt said:
Personally, I like my screen going off - it saves a lot of battery and it only takes a tap of the centre button to put it back on anyway
If you really can't stand it, install Advanced Config by Schaps (attached) - I can't remember exactly where the setting is, but you can adjust it with this tool... and a shed load of other useful tweaks too
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Thanks a lot, didn't realise the centre button turns it back on. Still, I'll try the tweak. And thanks for your reply to my other thread.
The center button doesn't turn it on for me. IIRC there was a tweak to get that to work but I've forgotten it. Anybody remember?
I've installed the advanced config utility, but it gives me an error saying:
'AdvancedConfig.exe. TypeLoadException. This application requires a newer version of the Microsoft.NET Compact Framework than the version installed in this device'.
Where do I look to see which version I have and where could I get the newer version of .NET Compact Framework? From this site or microsoft? Thanks.
Is this what I need, 3.5? Or is there a cab file that would be easier to install?
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...fd-ae52-4e35-b531-508d977d32a6&DisplayLang=en
Oops, double post.