Is there a way to keep the device (Tytn II) from going automaitcaly into standby mode when the GPS is activated regardless of the power setting?
On my older Trinity, whenever I used the GPS, the device would not go into standby mode no matter what the power setting was, and hence GPS will remain working. In other words, even when in power setting i had power off after 1 minute, if the GPS was being used (like Destinator) the Trinity was kept awake until I shut down Destiniator. But this is not the case with the Kaiser. Even if I have Destinator running, the devise will still go to sleep mode.
I use tomtom and when running it won't let the Kaiser go into standby automatically.
I do not know how to do it - but I know it MUST be possible because when TomTom is running on my phone it stays in live bright screen mode.
Bill
omar302 said:
Is there a way to keep the device (Tytn II) from going automaitcaly into standby mode when the GPS is activated regardless of the power setting?
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I use AE Button plus, which is a button remapping program, but has additional functions that can be assigned to hardware buttons. Check it out. I have set up the PTT button that when I click it twice, it disables the auto-standby function but then the backlight doesn't turn off, so when I click it three times it turns off the backlight to save power. Works like a champ.
I too am wondering the same thing. When using iGo, my phone goes to sleep. Is there a reg setting, or an exception lit I can add iGo to, in order to keep phone awake?
I know it must be possible, since several other programs work that way. For example phone does not go to sleep when using IE, or Core Player etc.
I am also using S2U2, and have added iGo to the exception list there, but that only stopped the phone from locking when it goes to sleep.
Please help.
Thanks!
I solved my problem (actualy workaround) by using MortScript (Keepalive script).
omar302 said:
I solved my problem (actualy workaround) by using MortScript (Keepalive script).
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Hi:
Thanks so much for your reply.
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Hi everyone,
I just switched from the Touch to the Kaiser and have a problem with the device not going into powersave mode. I am NOT talking about the backlight settings but the power settings that turns off the device after x min of inactivity. The device never turns off for some reason.
This was working fine on the Touch. Is this a common problem on the Kaiser ?
Thanks
pchronos said:
Hi everyone,
I just switched from the Touch to the Kaiser and have a problem with the device not going into powersave mode. I am NOT talking about the backlight settings but the power settings that turns off the device after x min of inactivity. The device never turns off for some reason.
This was working fine on the Touch. Is this a common problem on the Kaiser ?
Thanks
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You don't mention what settings you have it set to. When you tap the battery icon (top bar) and then "advanced", are there time limits set?
If there are - untick the boxes and exit the screen "OK"
Then return to the screen and tick the boxes again and enter time limits exit with "OK"
Personally I always turn to standby manually. WM5/6 often seems to prefer this. WM5 in particular has a habit of not coming out of standby if it goes to standby by itself. The Kaiser seems MUCH more tolerant of this but I just got the habit of doing it manually.
Mike
My backlight settings are not set and my Power settings are as follows:
Turn off device if not used for "1 min" is SET for batt power and NOT SET for external power.
I will try unchecking everything and rechecking to see if that helps.
Thanks,
BTW, TouchFlo scrolling is horrible on the Kaiser compared to the Touch especially in the Internet browser. Surprising for a device with so much more memory and horsepower over the Touch...
i had a same problem with my kaiser... Try to hard reset u phone after hard reset you wont see any problem...
Thanks for the suggestions..
I did a hard reset and the problem remains. It is very strange because if I manually power of the phone it does wake up when I call comes in bit stays on after that.
During a call however the screen goes off !!!
I did the recommended reg hack to stop the screen from blacking out during a call but it still does it.
Has there been any updates to the original (HTC) firmware since release ?
Thanks again.
check this:
\HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\EnableFastDormantDisplayDuringCall
from "1" to "0" will leave the screen on long enough for voicemail use (probably falling back to the backlight/power settings)...
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From this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330583&highlight=screen+off
Hello all,
I just got my AT&T Tilt and love it so far, except for one major annoyance. When I press the power button, the device will turn the screen back on after a few seconds to a few minutes. The problem is when it's in my pocket, it can accidentally call people. My 8125 and 8525 did not experience this issue.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Button lock
It sounds as though the phone isn't set to lock all buttons except the power button when it is in standby. This happened to me last time I re-flashed my Wizard, and I couldn't figure out for ages why my battery was draining so quickly as well!
Settings > Buttons > Lock
Hmm, not seeing any option under Buttons or Lock. I do remember this setting from WM5. It does appear, however, that the buttons are not turning the phone on, it's just waking up even if I leave it on a desk.
You can add lock to the home screen
first press and hold the hang-up button so that it locks. Then just push the power button once. This puts it in standby.
There is a idle timeout for going on standby mode, but I can't find a setting to auto-lock.
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When I press the power button, the device will turn the screen back on after a few seconds to a few minutes.
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Are you paired to a Bluetooth device? I see similar behavior in my 8525 when in my car - the BT car kit does stuff which "wakes" the 8525
Richard
Try this leaving Google Maps On the Screen
Hi Guys,
I get this behavior when I have Google Maps running. It will even cycle the screen on and off a couple times.
nope and nope. just sitting on the today screen.
JBHorne said:
When I press the power button, the device will turn the screen back on after a few seconds to a few minutes.
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I have the very same problem.
However, my girlfriend whom I also bought a Tilt for, her's doesn't do it.
We've installed all the same software too, so I'm a little puzzled.
start>settings>system> key lock. set it to lock all buttons except power.
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start>settings>system> key lock. set it to lock all buttons except power.
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Hmmm.. yeah, umm my key lock is already set to lock all buttons except power.
The problem isn't with when you press a button it comes on. The problem is the phone turns on by itself, sitting on a table, nothing being pressed, no new email, no new sms, just lights up and that's it.
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Hmmm.. yeah, umm my key lock is already set to lock all buttons except power.
The problem isn't with when you press a button it comes on. The problem is the phone turns on by itself, sitting on a table, nothing being pressed, no new email, no new sms, just lights up and that's it.
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Any number of applications might be starting the device, from weather apps to calendar, diary, time sync etc etc. For example, HTCs weather app will do it depending on how often you have it set to another example I came across from someone was TREO ALERTS that contains a script "refresh.mscr" and it was set up refresh time 30 seconds (this was turning his TyTn II on by itself).
Mike
hard reset and try again.
i'm betting that none of these suggestions were helpful (except the one about some application generating a wakeup event without any other visual notifications).
i was having the same problem, but i just tried to narrow down which running program was causing the events. it's one of:
* wireless manager
* messaging
* IM
my guess is IM; i'm going to test that out in a second.
well, it's none of the above. still seems to wake up randomly anywhere from 15 seconds to several minutes.
seems to happen more frequently when it's just been turned off.
Even if you were to find what was turing the phone back on, this can still be a problem just from normal use... obviously, you WANT the phone to turn on for things like a call coming in. The solution for people like us who stick our phones in our pockets is to "lock" the phone. But for whatever reason, the Tilt doesn't lock the phone while holding down the end key. That means the only convenient way to lock it is to keep the lock function on the today screen, wasting space. Hopefully someone can find a way to allow the end key to lock the device on the Tilt just like the unbranded device.
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Even if you were to find what was turing the phone back on, this can still be a problem just from normal use... obviously, you WANT the phone to turn on for things like a call coming in. The solution for people like us who stick our phones in our pockets is to "lock" the phone. But for whatever reason, the Tilt doesn't lock the phone while holding down the end key. That means the only convenient way to lock it is to keep the lock function on the today screen, wasting space. Hopefully someone can find a way to allow the end key to lock the device on the Tilt just like the unbranded device.
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i'm fine with using the lock function, but it still turns on randomly, using battery, and eventually unnecessarily yellowing the screen from backlight aging. my next approach is to check out the notification queue, using a notification cleaner app.
So i am having a similar problem. When i press the power button, the phone's screen turns off but when the keyboard slides, it turns back on... is there a way to make it so the keyboard sliding does not turn on the device? I think the keyboard slides around a little when in my pocket and i hate pushing 3 buttons to unlock my phone... thanks
I was having the same problem.
This is an issue with the ATT rom. Flash over HTC rom and you will be all set.
I have been having the same problem as well. I just installed this DeviceLock program:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305402
If you enable the "Lock on Wake" option, the device will be locked when it wakes up, so the backlight stays off and you won't call anyone by accidentally hitting buttons.
Also, I ran across this related thread you might want to check out (basically talking about the same thing, but for the TyTn II):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341419
Moving from the Touch to the Kaiser I love the 3G performance and the built-in GPS however there are two MAJOR issues I have that did not exist on the Touch and I cannot understand why the Kaiser with double the memory suffers from this.
1- Erratic scrolling in IE even after the page has loaded ?
2- My other problem (and this is more serios) is that the device does not turn off after the 1 min settings I set in the Power settings. I do not set the backlight dimming settings. I just want to phone to off itself after 1 min. It does not and if I forget to turn it of it just drains the Batt.
Again, the Touch did not have either of these flaws.
Any help with the power issue would be great.
Thanks in advance
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Moving from the Touch to the Kaiser I love the 3G performance and the built-in GPS however there are two MAJOR issues I have that did not exist on the Touch and I cannot understand why the Kaiser with double the memory suffers from this.
1- Erratic scrolling in IE even after the page has loaded ?
2- My other problem (and this is more serios) is that the device does not turn off after the 1 min settings I set in the Power settings. I do not set the backlight dimming settings. I just want to phone to off itself after 1 min. It does not and if I forget to turn it of it just drains the Batt.
Again, the Touch did not have either of these flaws.
Any help with the power issue would be great.
Thanks in advance
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There is a known issue that I and others have been reporting regarding scrolling in PIE. We have not yet identified a way to resolve this. However we have discovered that :
Opera Mini a java midlet based application works well and super fast. A great application for straightforward browsing. No frills but good viewing options and due to the way it works may reduce data charges for some and will certainly impress with its speed. (Freeware)
http://www.operamini.com/beta/
OR
Opera Mobile. Works well and fast, no scrolling issues and actually a pretty good full spec.browser. Not free but has a trial period to test it out. Iuse this and am very pleased with it.
http://www.opera.com/download/mobile/?man=Windows+Mobile+5.0+Pocket+PC&ver=8.65&heading=Windows%20Mobile%205/6%20PPC,%20Professional,%20Classic&img=/img/products/mobile/platform/865.gif&extra=
As for your switch off problem, that I think is just a settings issue, but I'd need to check.
Mike
Regarding turning off after 1 minute.
I suggest you go back into:
Start?Settings>system>Power icon>advanced tab
Uncheck turn off device after 1 minute, click OK.
May be best to perform a soft reset.
Now go back and recheck "turn off device" after 1 minute
Perform a test to see if the one minute turn off is now working, and report back here on success or otherwise.
Mike
mikechannon said:
Regarding turning off after 1 minute.
I suggest you go back into:
Start?Settings>system>Power icon>advanced tab
Uncheck turn off device after 1 minute, click OK.
May be best to perform a soft reset.
Now go back and recheck "turn off device" after 1 minute
Perform a test to see if the one minute turn off is now working, and report back here on success or otherwise.
Mike
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Hi Mike,
Thanks for the feedback. I unchecked the power setting to turn off after 1 min, power cycled the phone and set it again. The phone does NOT power off.
I power cycled one more time and still i does not turn off.
Can you please verify this behavior ?
Nothing is checked in the backlight options and ONLY "Turn off device if not used for" 1 min is checked under "On battery power".
The phone never turns off on its own.
Thanks again,
pchronos said:
Hi Mike,
Thanks for the feedback. I unchecked the power setting to turn off after 1 min, power cycled the phone and set it again. The phone does NOT power off.
I power cycled one more time and still i does not turn off.
Can you please verify this behavior ?
Nothing is checked in the backlight options and ONLY "Turn off device if not used for" 1 min is checked under "On battery power".
The phone never turns off on its own.
Thanks again,
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I tested this before making the above post. I tried different time settings and it powered off at the set time. So I can only think that either some application is keeping it "alive" ie. not "idle" so the time trigger never starts or this is something that will only be cured with a hard reset.
If you have killed all running applications and it still will not auto sleep then hard reset may be the only option. If you have full backup facilities this should be a painless operation, though if you reinstall the backup and the problem is caused by an installed application then the problem will return on backup installation.
Mike
The only app that is running ( that I can see ) is Activesync due to push email. This was the case with the Touch so I do not think it is Activesync that is keeping the phone from turning off.
Thanks anyway for your efforts...
Found the problem!
Well it looks like Activesync (DirectPush) is the problem.
If I kill ActiveSync the phone turns itself off at the established timeout. If ActiveSync is running (with DirectPush active) it does not turn off. Again, on the Touch this was not the case so it is not proper behavior.
Any ideas or reg settings to correct this?
Thanks.
pchronos said:
Well it looks like Activesync (DirectPush) is the problem.
If I kill ActiveSync the phone turns itself off at the established timeout. If ActiveSync is running (with DirectPush active) it does not turn off. Again, on the Touch this was not the case so it is not proper behavior.
Any ideas or reg settings to correct this?
Thanks.
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There may be, but I at least don't know them. There are reg keys that tell the device to suspend but keep an application running (sometimes known as "unattended mode". However we know yours does suspend when AS is not running. I just wonder whether there are any "sync" settings within your push mail client that may be running a sync too frequently.
Another, but more remote possibility is that when AS is active it may also be servicing other apps, like weather apps, time sync etc - so perhaps just worth checking there are no other less obvious apps running. AS can also rather stupidly attempt to sync with the PC even if you are not connected to it. So perhaps double check any AS settings.
Mike
I played with the ActiveSync settings and the only way the phone turns off while AS is running is if I disable DirectPush. On manual sync or periodic sync the phone turns off at the proper timeout.
Any idea where DirectPush settings are ?
Thanks
I've this same problem NOW, but I've working over a month with activesync and pushemail active without this issue!!!!! (My configuration was also "as items arrive")
The only thing I can say is that today i suddently saw my exchange settings had been dissapeared without doing anything, then I reconfigured the exchange setting again, and from that moment my kaiser does not suspend if "as items arrive" is selected!
I have the same problem with the phone not switching off, though on mine it doesn't matter whether direct push is on or off, it still won't power down.
Edit: Now that's typical. As soon as I submitted the above and started playing with it, it started working...
I used to use one of Dutty's early WM6.1 ROMs, but have recently upgraded to Dutty's Diamond V1 ROM. Since upgrading I am unable to get the WiFi to stay enabled in either standby mode or even when just turning off the screen (using Screensaver.exe).
The KaiserTweak/registry hack seems to have no effect. If the WiFi is enabled and I turn the screen off the WiFi LED flashes 3 more times and then stops as the WiFi turns itself off. This never used to be an issue with the previous ROM, is there a registry setting somewhere or is this a ROM/Radio related issue?
After using the Kaisertweak to edit the registry, did you do a power cycle to make it go in effect?
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After using the Kaisertweak to edit the registry, did you do a power cycle to make it go in effect?
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Yes, I have performed numerous soft resets since enabling the WiFi Standby setting.
Wifi issues in ATT TILT
hi!
Even I am having the same issue and it bugs me a lot. I am using ATT TILT with original ATT ROM and I want to stay online on skype using wifi.
The only wat is that inside skype there is an option of "preventing device from entering sleep mode" which I have checked. This way I remain online but my phone's battery consumption increases a lot. I have not tried it on att 3G ( please tell me your experiences with 3g connection, does it go off even in 3g ). I even tried installing psshutxp and device lock, but no help.
I want my phone to go into sleep mode but with its wifi to remain on, so that i can keep on recieving skype calls.
One more thing:
I think in psshutxp the light off is same as pressing the on/off button once ( enters into sleep mode ), as in both of them the wifi goes off.
And the kaiser tweak also doesn;t seem to have any effect too.
I was hoping to get some thing that will only swith off the display of the phone, keeping the phone active, this can also keep me online and save some battery.
att tilt 8925, be Backlight closed, (be wifi closed)
How can I solve this problem
First, I have searched, but did not find anything. I am running NotATreoFan's Beta 1 of his first ROM. It has been running very well and I really don't plan to change anytime soon. However, I noticed today that it won't power down/sleep on its own (I normally press the power button before putting it in my pocket). It is set for a one minute power down.
Apps installed:
Total Commander
TomTom 6
Syware Visual CE
TodayAgenda
TaskManager
Kaiser OpenGL Drivers
GPS Test
Flash Player
Batti
Office 6.1 including OneNote
Advanced Configuration
GSPlayer
.NET 3.5
Isilo
HomeScreenPlus
PPCProfilesPro
claunch
Icontact
DxC Iphone Dialer
LVM Second Clock
Opera Mini
Wow, I didn't realize how much I have installed. Before I start yanking, any thoughts about which one might be causing trouble? I doubt it is the ROM.
Thanks!
What happens when you press the power button to try to make it sleep?
I had a problem with a new kaiser that i got where when i tried to put it to sleep using the power button it would jus turn itself back on. If I let it goto sleep on its own it worked fine.
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What happens when you press the power button to try to make it sleep?
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Power button works fine, which is why I haven't noticed it before. I usually manually power it off, but today I left it sitting and it was on, never turning off.
ourtech said:
Power button works fine, which is why I haven't noticed it before. I usually manually power it off, but today I left it sitting and it was on, never turning off.
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Resolved. It appears to be a home screen clock plugin that I was using.