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Tilt Annoyance

Hello all,
I just got my AT&T Tilt and love it so far, except for one major annoyance. When I press the power button, the device will turn the screen back on after a few seconds to a few minutes. The problem is when it's in my pocket, it can accidentally call people. My 8125 and 8525 did not experience this issue.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!

Button lock
It sounds as though the phone isn't set to lock all buttons except the power button when it is in standby. This happened to me last time I re-flashed my Wizard, and I couldn't figure out for ages why my battery was draining so quickly as well!
Settings > Buttons > Lock

Hmm, not seeing any option under Buttons or Lock. I do remember this setting from WM5. It does appear, however, that the buttons are not turning the phone on, it's just waking up even if I leave it on a desk.

You can add lock to the home screen

first press and hold the hang-up button so that it locks. Then just push the power button once. This puts it in standby.
There is a idle timeout for going on standby mode, but I can't find a setting to auto-lock.

JBHorne said:
When I press the power button, the device will turn the screen back on after a few seconds to a few minutes.
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Are you paired to a Bluetooth device? I see similar behavior in my 8525 when in my car - the BT car kit does stuff which "wakes" the 8525
Richard

Try this leaving Google Maps On the Screen
Hi Guys,
I get this behavior when I have Google Maps running. It will even cycle the screen on and off a couple times.

nope and nope. just sitting on the today screen.

JBHorne said:
When I press the power button, the device will turn the screen back on after a few seconds to a few minutes.
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I have the very same problem.
However, my girlfriend whom I also bought a Tilt for, her's doesn't do it.
We've installed all the same software too, so I'm a little puzzled.

start>settings>system> key lock. set it to lock all buttons except power.

rzanology said:
start>settings>system> key lock. set it to lock all buttons except power.
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Hmmm.. yeah, umm my key lock is already set to lock all buttons except power.
The problem isn't with when you press a button it comes on. The problem is the phone turns on by itself, sitting on a table, nothing being pressed, no new email, no new sms, just lights up and that's it.

JonRick said:
Hmmm.. yeah, umm my key lock is already set to lock all buttons except power.
The problem isn't with when you press a button it comes on. The problem is the phone turns on by itself, sitting on a table, nothing being pressed, no new email, no new sms, just lights up and that's it.
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Any number of applications might be starting the device, from weather apps to calendar, diary, time sync etc etc. For example, HTCs weather app will do it depending on how often you have it set to another example I came across from someone was TREO ALERTS that contains a script "refresh.mscr" and it was set up refresh time 30 seconds (this was turning his TyTn II on by itself).
Mike

hard reset and try again.

i'm betting that none of these suggestions were helpful (except the one about some application generating a wakeup event without any other visual notifications).
i was having the same problem, but i just tried to narrow down which running program was causing the events. it's one of:
* wireless manager
* messaging
* IM
my guess is IM; i'm going to test that out in a second.

well, it's none of the above. still seems to wake up randomly anywhere from 15 seconds to several minutes.
seems to happen more frequently when it's just been turned off.

Even if you were to find what was turing the phone back on, this can still be a problem just from normal use... obviously, you WANT the phone to turn on for things like a call coming in. The solution for people like us who stick our phones in our pockets is to "lock" the phone. But for whatever reason, the Tilt doesn't lock the phone while holding down the end key. That means the only convenient way to lock it is to keep the lock function on the today screen, wasting space. Hopefully someone can find a way to allow the end key to lock the device on the Tilt just like the unbranded device.

dscline said:
Even if you were to find what was turing the phone back on, this can still be a problem just from normal use... obviously, you WANT the phone to turn on for things like a call coming in. The solution for people like us who stick our phones in our pockets is to "lock" the phone. But for whatever reason, the Tilt doesn't lock the phone while holding down the end key. That means the only convenient way to lock it is to keep the lock function on the today screen, wasting space. Hopefully someone can find a way to allow the end key to lock the device on the Tilt just like the unbranded device.
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i'm fine with using the lock function, but it still turns on randomly, using battery, and eventually unnecessarily yellowing the screen from backlight aging. my next approach is to check out the notification queue, using a notification cleaner app.

So i am having a similar problem. When i press the power button, the phone's screen turns off but when the keyboard slides, it turns back on... is there a way to make it so the keyboard sliding does not turn on the device? I think the keyboard slides around a little when in my pocket and i hate pushing 3 buttons to unlock my phone... thanks

I was having the same problem.
This is an issue with the ATT rom. Flash over HTC rom and you will be all set.

I have been having the same problem as well. I just installed this DeviceLock program:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305402
If you enable the "Lock on Wake" option, the device will be locked when it wakes up, so the backlight stays off and you won't call anyone by accidentally hitting buttons.
Also, I ran across this related thread you might want to check out (basically talking about the same thing, but for the TyTn II):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341419

New ROM, New Problems!

My Tilt is my very first WM device, so hopefully I'm not completely clueless here. I had a few hangs a week on my Tilt, so I thought I'd go ahead and flash the HTC ROM to it. Since then, however, it still hangs occasionally and seems to be much more laggy than it used to be. A host of new annoyances has popped up too. Hopefully just little reg tweaks, but I have to ask.
I don't want to overwhelm with a laundry list, so I'll just try and get these solved one at a time. Obviously I'd like some advice on the performance as well, but here's the first annoyance:
Under the "Power -> Advanced" tab, I have it set to "turn off device" after 10 minutes "on external power." Similarly, under the "Backlight -> External Power" tab, I have it set to turn off not being used for 5 minutes.
So why, I wonder, when I charge my phone at night, does the phone shine brightly all throughout the night?!?
Thanks for being so helpful.

they stay on when they are charging by default. it's how they work

Just hit your sleep button. That's what I do
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dwella said:
Just hit your sleep button. That's what I do
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I do the same thing it charges fine.
-McMex

Thanks - I've been hitting sleep up 'til now. It's just that under the Tilt ROM, the thing used to put itself to sleep while plugged in just fine. Now it doesn't. Oh well, I guess I can just hit the button.
So my next problem: On the HTC Home plugin, under the "applications" tab, there's a button that rotates the screen. When I hit that, however, it rotates the wrong way - so that if the keyboard is open, the screen is upside down. Similarly, when I start a slideshow "optimized for landscape images," the slideshow starts "upside down."

My tilt is upside down, too!
Hey, did you ever figure that out? My tilt is upside down now in landscape mode, too. I have the Dutty v3 Dual Touch on there but I swear it worked for awhile... I installed the HTC Home customizer and ran the kaiser tweak program so maybe something in there messed me up...
Did you ever get yours fixed?

Keep device on with GPS

Is there a way to keep the device (Tytn II) from going automaitcaly into standby mode when the GPS is activated regardless of the power setting?
On my older Trinity, whenever I used the GPS, the device would not go into standby mode no matter what the power setting was, and hence GPS will remain working. In other words, even when in power setting i had power off after 1 minute, if the GPS was being used (like Destinator) the Trinity was kept awake until I shut down Destiniator. But this is not the case with the Kaiser. Even if I have Destinator running, the devise will still go to sleep mode.

I use tomtom and when running it won't let the Kaiser go into standby automatically.

I do not know how to do it - but I know it MUST be possible because when TomTom is running on my phone it stays in live bright screen mode.
Bill
omar302 said:
Is there a way to keep the device (Tytn II) from going automaitcaly into standby mode when the GPS is activated regardless of the power setting?
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I use AE Button plus, which is a button remapping program, but has additional functions that can be assigned to hardware buttons. Check it out. I have set up the PTT button that when I click it twice, it disables the auto-standby function but then the backlight doesn't turn off, so when I click it three times it turns off the backlight to save power. Works like a champ.

I too am wondering the same thing. When using iGo, my phone goes to sleep. Is there a reg setting, or an exception lit I can add iGo to, in order to keep phone awake?
I know it must be possible, since several other programs work that way. For example phone does not go to sleep when using IE, or Core Player etc.
I am also using S2U2, and have added iGo to the exception list there, but that only stopped the phone from locking when it goes to sleep.
Please help.
Thanks!

I solved my problem (actualy workaround) by using MortScript (Keepalive script).

omar302 said:
I solved my problem (actualy workaround) by using MortScript (Keepalive script).
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Hi:
Thanks so much for your reply.

energy saving

Hi,
When I don't use my diamond, after some seconds the screen just gets a bit darker but never disappears. the buttons don't seem to block ether...
In settings/system/advanced I changed first and second item to 30 en 40 seconds...
When I push the on/off button everything seems to be turned off...
What to do?
Thanks

JEPEDEWE said:
Hi,
When I don't use my diamond, after some seconds the screen just gets a bit darker but never disappears. the buttons don't seem to block ether...
In settings/system/advanced I changed first and second item to 30 en 40 seconds...
When I push the on/off button everything seems to be turned off...
What to do?
Thanks
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So "Turn off device" doesn't work? What ROM are you using?

When I push the on/off button on the upper left edge of the diamond, the screen turns black and all buttons are turned off... just like it should..
I want the same thing to happen after (let's say) 30 seconds..
Now the screen gets a bit more "unclear" but never really trurns off.... (completely black...)
Hop you understand it better now.
Thanks

I think I understand. I'm trying to localize the problem. If, in the Power settings you set Turn off Device to 40s, it should do just that.
If it doesn't, there are two possiblities:
A program you installed won't let the device to turn off.
A bug in the ROM you are using.
Please note that the official ROMs don't have this problem, so if that's your case, perhaps you can give a list of the software you installed to see if we can identify the culprit.
I don't consider a hardware failure, as the hard button seems to be working.

I downloaded the HTC new rom version 1.93.404.1 NLD and installed it (Diamond works much better now)
Installed programms:
Tomtom
Data on the run
Nodata
TF3D config
Total commander
Spb Time
Advanced config
S2P
Sprite backup
That must be all I think
Thanks you for your kind help

Your reply rang a bell!!!
In Spd Timer there is a setting: "No sleep on timers"
It was checked.
I unchecked it and now everything seems to be OK...
I still need to study what the setting itself does
Thanks (helping without knowing it... must be great)
JP

Glad I could point you in the right direction

when htc turn off automaticly for 30s or so does he woke up when i get messege, and does he turns off when i am on browser and if i went somwhere for a 2mins will it turns of although i am in browser?

Htc Tytn 2 Screen problem

Hi everyone,
I got a HTC Tytn 2 and i have a problem with it.
When i boot the phone it starts up and goes into windows like every windows mobile phone.
But when i press the standby button my screen wont go out of standby.
Only when i reset the phone it will work again.
Anyone got idea's ?

Oke, since no one responded.
Is there any way how i can make the Power Button replaced with the Speed Dial Button.
Because i think my power button is broke.

WGN88 said:
Oke, since no one responded.
Is there any way how i can make the Power Button replaced with the Speed Dial Button.
Because i think my power button is broke.
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Have you at least tried backing up your data and doing a hard reset first ?

Yes, and i have also tried to put on a new rom and even updated the radio.
Iam a little bit out of idea's...

here are some more ideas:
1. how to test the power button: you say pressing the power button does not wake up the device once it goes to sleep. conversely, does pressing the power button put the device to sleep while the screen is on? if the power button is unable to make the device go off->on as well as on->off, then the power button is likely broken. if pressing the button achieves on->off, then the power button is probably ok and some software issue becomes more likely.
2. how to enable wake on pressing ANY hardware button: look for an option in Settings. i can't tell you the exact option because the ROM i am using does not have a link for this option, but this option does exist 100% in stock ROM and in lots of other ROMs. it contains settings like "Lock all buttons except power button" and "Keep all buttons unlocked" or something similar. by using the second option, pressing ANY hardware button while the screen is off will wake up the device.
3. you can use AE button plus to perform even more advanced button (re)mappings.
4. just to be sure that your device is really working correct, does the screen wake up when you call the phone or when you receive a text message? if it does not wake up even then, then search for "sleep of death".

Thanks for the response.
I think its a Service of Death problem.
Because when i try calling/smsing it, it wont go on
The buttons do work then...hopefully there's a fix for this problem...

Oke, i tried switching to 2G or 3G only but that didn't fix my Standby of Death.
I also bought a new sim card of vodafone so i wont get a No Sim error.
But what can i do now about it...it hangs like every 5 min...

Okay, after a will testing, the phone hangs every time its almost like when iam on the road with my tytn 2 and placing it upside down, it hangs.
But when iam putting it in the leather holder it doesn't hang.
Any had the same problems ?

WGN88 said:
Okay, after a will testing, the phone hangs every time its almost like when iam on the road with my tytn 2 and placing it upside down, it hangs.
But when iam putting it in the leather holder it doesn't hang.
Any had the same problems ?
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Maybe it's hardware and something is coming loose