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well i searched already and could not really find a answer. i want to upgrade my rom from a wm6.0 to the wm6.1 i read on microsoft page that its for vista, well at this time i have xp. can i still do it?
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well i searched already and could not really find a answer. i want to upgrade my rom from a wm6.0 to the wm6.1 i read on microsoft page that its for vista, well at this time i have xp. can i still do it?
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That's bull. The ROM doesn't care on your OS, you can use MacOS for all it cares. If you have flashed a 6.0 ROM before then just flash a 6.1 ROM.
Note: you will have to Flash a 6.1 compatable radio, if it isn't included in the ROM.
If you hav'nt flashed before, read the Getting Started Link in my sig.
Ta,
Dave
What 6.1 ROM are you speaking about? One of the many cooked ROMs found in this forum or the M$ official one?
the microsoft rom, i have never done a rom burn just read up on it and consider it. kinda want to let my phone be atleast a month old before i start to burn new roms.
As far as I know the M$ 6.1 ROM has not been released but just officially announced and it's up to the manufactures to release it. I could be wrong but thats how I read it.
you are looking at a page for Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1 for Vista, a desktop interface...
...not Windows Mobile 6.1
Here's a really naive question - if WM 6.1 hasn't been officially announced or released (least of all for the Kaiser) where do the various cooked versions of it come from, and how does anyone know that they're definitely the full 6.1, and not just some prototype-like sample? I mean, isn't there a chance that the actual 6.1 that MS announce and HTC start releasing for phones will be different?
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Here's a really naive question - if WM 6.1 hasn't been officially announced or released (least of all for the Kaiser) where do the various cooked versions of it come from, and how does anyone know that they're definitely the full 6.1, and not just some prototype-like sample? I mean, isn't there a chance that the actual 6.1 that MS announce and HTC start releasing for phones will be different?
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Thats a secret of our chefs.
You may be talking at cross-purposes but there is this posting recently on the windows mobile blog
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2008/04/01/announcing-windows-mobile-6-1.aspx
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the microsoft rom, i have never done a rom burn just read up on it and consider it. kinda want to let my phone be atleast a month old before i start to burn new roms.
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That's what I did. I think this way is best cos when you flash you REALLY feel the speed increase
But just for clarification, as boomermax said, were you looking at Windows Mobile Device Centre? If so, this is Vista's version of ActiveSync, ActiveSync can no longer be used in Vista.
Inquiry About Windows Mobile 6.1
I sent HTC an e-mail inquiring about the ROM release of Windows Mobile 6.1 for the AT&T Tilt and this was there response.
Hello Matthew,
Thank you for your inquiry
We know it is very important to have all the information on our devices. We will do our best to assist you with this information right away. HTC has no official documentation or details about the use or release of Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1. As you may be aware, all updates for our devices can be located at their respective regional web sites. If any future updates will be available for the AT&T Tilt , you will undoubtedly find it on our support web pages listed below:
http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=67
I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
HTC Technical Support
http://www.america.htc.com
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Also the e-mail I sent to AT&T asking the same question, was told that the manufacturer (HTC) would be providing a ROM update if there was one... So apparently it's still a mystery!
I'd just like to point out that theres an "official" wm6.1 rom out there that vodafone use...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365058
...just incase you didnt find it before. it comes with the correct radio, and even tho its "vodafone", ive been using tmobile on it fine, so it doesnt matter if youre not using voda
Officially the Official ????
billgatessucks said:
I'd just like to point out that theres an "official" wm6.1 rom out there that vodafone use...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365058
...just incase you didnt find it before. it comes with the correct radio, and even tho its "vodafone", ive been using tmobile on it fine, so it doesnt matter if youre not using voda
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I see official ROMs all over XDA!!!What makes this one any different? When I see an Official ROM from the manufacture, then I'll be happy....
but why would a company such as vodafone not use an official rom?
or are you implying that this was never from vodafone?
but yea, if micropoop pull their finger out and release wm6.1 or even wm7, that would be nice...
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but why would a company such as vodafone not use an official rom?
or are you implying that this was never from vodafone?
but yea, if micropoop pull their finger out and release wm6.1 or even wm7, that would be nice...
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I'm just saying that if I goto the Manufacture or carriers web site and see the official Update, then I will be happy and believe it's official. Most of the WM6.1 ROMs in this forum have come from leaked versions or something like that. I think It's top secret!
ahhh i see what you mean...
...tho, i'd be very suprised if vodafone actually put up useful information/updates on their site
Hi all
Anyone out there come across any FAXing utility that actually works on the Kaiser? I have tried both Mfax and TrueFax and neither work. Now, I mean true faxing utility using the phones radio not Faxing via internet.
Thanks, Kyri.
I always thought that was carrier dependant. If I remember correctly when I used to in the past long ago with Cingular I was only able to when I had Circuit Switched Data (CSD) enabled on my account that alloed my phone to be used as a dialup modem. But I haven't seen Cingular/ATT offer that service for some time now. Not sure about other carriers.
Please refer to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380509
Hi guys
Thanks for the feedback, I checked out the threads, but other than confirming that others have had the same problems, not much help.
Even after enabling CSD, there is a need for FAXing software that works on the Kaiser.
I questioned Trufax support and here is their answer…
Unfortunately we cannot support the WM 5.0 / 6.0 Pocket PC Phones at the moment. The problem is that we need technical support from the respective device manufacturers and this support is not given at the moment. We were working together with High Tech Computer for their devices (MDA, XDA, i-mate, etc.) but this was only for WM 2003 OS and they stopped supporting us with WM 5.0 cause faxing was not an issue of importance for HTC and the net providers anymore.
(another round of applause for HTC I guess. Shame on you for laughing at me, again. I will take my money elsewhere next time. I have noticed over the past year that the professional end Nokia phones are looking good and getting better all the time.)
Regarding Mfax, well that software just locks the phone a reset is required, hmmm!
So please the question remains, Does anyone out their know of any FAX software that actually works on the phone (CSD aside that is)?
Thanks, Kyri.
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Hi guys
Thanks for the feedback, I checked out the threads, but other than confirming that others have had the same problems, not much help.
Even after enabling CSD, there is a need for FAXing software that works on the Kaiser.
I questioned Trufax support and here is their answer…
Unfortunately we cannot support the WM 5.0 / 6.0 Pocket PC Phones at the moment. The problem is that we need technical support from the respective device manufacturers and this support is not given at the moment. We were working together with High Tech Computer for their devices (MDA, XDA, i-mate, etc.) but this was only for WM 2003 OS and they stopped supporting us with WM 5.0 cause faxing was not an issue of importance for HTC and the net providers anymore.
(another round of applause for HTC I guess. Shame on you for laughing at me, again. I will take my money elsewhere next time. I have noticed over the past year that the professional end Nokia phones are looking good and getting better all the time.)
Regarding Mfax, well that software just locks the phone a reset is required, hmmm!
So please the question remains, Does anyone out their know of any FAX software that actually works on the phone (CSD aside that is)?
Thanks, Kyri.
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I don't want do be annoying but your question belongs to the software section and should therefore be asked in the thread I mentioned above. Why opening a redundant thread in the wrong section?
Hey (not so) deep thought. Wrong section may be, redundant only with hind site. Rude yes, Annoying certainly! unnecessary definitely.
kdemetriou said:
Hey (not so) deep thought. Wrong section may be, redundant only with hind site. Rude yes, Annoying certainly! unnecessary definitely.
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I just stated my opinion. You are attacking me personally, so everyone can decide for himself who is rude. But continue your redundant thread in the wrong section. I don't have to read it anyway and maybe you can flame with the mods. I'm not available for that ****.
eFax on wireless
kdemetriou said:
Hi all
Anyone out there come across any FAXing utility that actually works on the Kaiser? I have tried both Mfax and TrueFax and neither work. Now, I mean true faxing utility using the phones radio not Faxing via internet.
Thanks, Kyri.
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How about eFax?
Hi Cushcalc
Thanks for the efax link. It’s not quite what I had in mind. See I travel lots, go for months without needing a fax and then along comes a need to use fax for a couple of weeks until something else is arranged.
So I don’t want to start an online service and have the overhead/time/think about keeping up the subscriptions for months until I next need it.
Ideally I want to send/receive faxes via radio direct without all this overhead, you know satisfy the need for those couple of weeks and then forget about it till next time.
Mfax and TrueFAX have the right idea. It seems at least for one company however, that the non disclosure policy of HTC has basically prevented them from upgrading their products to run using Windows Mobile version 5 and 6. Sad and petty on HTC’s side I think. From my perspective, well no one likes a bully do they.
Regards
fax
do any of these programs help?
http://www.mobilefan.net/Pocket-PC.nsf/Download-Free-Software/Printing-Fax
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So I don’t want to start an online service and have the overhead/time/think about keeping up the subscriptions for months until I next need it.
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Well, I made an eFax account something like 3 years ago for fun, never used it, and it still exists and I receive a reminder email about it every few months. I wouldn't consider that as having to spend time to keep it up...
I remember sending a fax with an HTC device, but it was indeed still on PPC2003 with my BA a few years ago.
And I'm pretty sure the software vendor you mention is a bit quick at blaming HTC, they could as well get the WM5/6 API info from Microsoft.
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I don't want do be annoying but your question belongs to the software section and should therefore be asked in the thread I mentioned above. Why opening a redundant thread in the wrong section?
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Perhaps you should let the mods decide what belongs where.
I too have had problems finding a suitable solution for faxing on my Tilt... AND editing the PDF format I get the faxes in...
You can at least receive faxes on your phone by email with Ringcentral.... I havent found a good email to fax program that might be the best you can do
The AT&T Tilt did not recievve a ROM update today. This means no accelerated graphics for us and no WM 6.1. Thank you HTC and AT&T you have all been a big help.
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The AT&T Tilt did not recievve a ROM update today. This means no accelerated graphics for us and no WM 6.1. Thank you HTC and AT&T you have all been a big help.
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Old news ! Not nice to start a " new " thread for something we had not expected anyway.
Yeah, I know its old news. But even so, a large amount of people do not know this, so its still worth posting.
Do you realize what board you're on? Don't generalize, you have been left behind, not me. I've been running WM6.1 on my Tilt since the winter when it first leaked and have been running the lasted build since Monday.
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Yeah, I know its old news. But even so, a large amount of people do not know this, so its still worth posting.
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Everyone here knows this and it is not worth posting as you will find out.
No, I have browsed through some threads and it seemed that a decent amount of people had not realized that only the HTC-Branded devices had recieved the update.
People who read stuff already knew for like a month that the update would probably be only for HTC branded devices, I guess you don't.
Anyways, it doesn't mean there won't be official updates for you, just that your company, whichever it is, will have to customize things first before releasing a rom, especially adding all their bloatware.
Oh, and about accelerated graphics, please, noone got them, it's not that you're a special target.
I know that there were some "fixes" but no drivers, and it has been said that ATT users will get it, just when they get ready to release it after adding all their crap.
Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
/rant
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Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
/rant
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I am here to help , what was the question ? I just heard a rant that the mods have said ( continually ) is not appropriate for these forums. If you read the official announcement from HTC when they announced the TYtN upgrade, they said that they had no plans to release an upgrade fer the Tilt in the near future. Why is this rant important to this forum?
What are you talking about denco? This is not even a rant, it is a statement. I did not mean for it to be a rant and I did not mean for people to mistake it as one. I merely meant to inform people that only the branded HTC devices got the update. It appeared as though alot of people had not realized this, or, at least enough for me to post. I can even show you some quotes if you need me too.
Denco, please look up the definition of 'rant'.
htc rom
Just talked to HTC. There is no 6.1 rom from them for the HTC phones (mine is the TYTN II) available anywhere on the globe.
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... I merely meant to inform people that only the branded HTC devices got the update...
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I am not trying to entice the argument here, but i will add couple of things:
a) Most of the "regular" members here at xda already know that the tilt or any other branded version of the tytnII will not be getting the updates. (emphasis on regular).
b) none of the xda members really care about official updates as we have very gifted and talented chefs here that can port roms for us (and we are truly greatful for that) and seeing that the only diffrence between the TytnII and tilt is the front camera that shouldn't be a big deal.
c) drivers (which there aren't none) can also be ported. There are chefs already working on porting the diamond drivers over to tilt which runs vga.
Having said that i would like to thank you for the info ... but unfortunately its old news and no one likes repeatedly hearing old news.
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The AT&T Tilt did not recievve a ROM update today. This means no accelerated graphics for us and no WM 6.1. Thank you HTC and AT&T you have all been a big help.
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Did you try hitting the download link at the bottom of this link -
http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=67&act=sd
? (Posted by jdmba)
Welcome to the ROM update for the AT&T Tilt. Please review the following prior to downloading and installing the latest ROM update (version 1.62.502.0) on your device.
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I very nearly downloaded this one by mistake. I registered with htc but my phone S/N is not a real HTC device and was still logged in, but I managed to (mistakenly) download the file from that link without much issue.
That help?
That's still only 6.0..
ZOMGWTFBBQ!!!!!1111one
Those bastards! Oh wait. I'm not worse off than I was before. Even If I didn't have XDA to feed my obsession for ROM flashing.
DarkDvr said:
Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
/rant
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um what is there to help with? It doesn't seem like the OP had a question or required help in any way. He came on and made an ignorant statement.
leon sprouse said:
Just talked to HTC. There is no 6.1 rom from them for the HTC phones (mine is the TYTN II) available anywhere on the globe.
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I don't know who you spoke with but they were wrong; I just ran the HTC RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility) from the HTC e-club web site and the splash screen clearly states Windows Mobile 6.1. I have an HTC TYTN II and it works great.
DarkDvr said:
Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
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LOL, nice call on NASIOC...as well as EvoM
The thing that puzzles me about this is the way the AT&T Tilt gets singled out as if it's special - in reality it's just one dozens of rebranded Kaisers around the globe, none of which have had an official update. I have a "Vodafone V1615", am I whining about where to download a Vodafone update for my Vodafone V1615? No, of course not, with the help of this forum it's been running the original HTC rom since October, and upgraded to the HTC 6.1 update a couple of days ago (before it was released by HTC in fact). So what's the problem?
The irony is the AT&T Tilt is (I believe) the only variant to have it's own section of the HTC website, and to actually have already had a rom upgrade back in February, albeit 6.0 only. Where are all the complaints about that from owners of the V1615, or the T-Mobile Vario 3, or the Orange Tytn II, or O2 XDA Stellar, or the "3" Tytn II, etc etc..?
Hi everybody,
I'm looking for the name of a soft on my tytnII (flashed with a custom rom). It says the number or the name of the caller...
Can you help me please?
Thanks
I think you're referring to the announcements made by Microsoft's Voice Command. It can announce incoming calls (numbers of name)
Dr. Strangelove said:
I think you're referring to the announcements made by Microsoft's Voice Command. It can announce incoming calls (numbers of name)
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Thats the one
thanks a lot!
Is it free? It was included in the dutty's rom...
yup indeedy
giumi said:
Is it free? It was included in the dutty's rom...
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its not free you pay for it through the cost of the phone (including in which is the cost of software and operating system). That is why its legal for you to flash cooked rom to your kaiser as cooked roms are based on the operating system that came with your device.
In sense of kaiser though yes MSVC is free as long as it came with a rom
thesire said:
its not free you pay for it through the cost of the phone (including in which is the cost of software and operating system). That is why its legal for you to flash cooked rom to your kaiser as cooked roms are based on the operating system that came with your device.
In sense of kaiser though yes MSVC is free as long as it came with a rom
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thanks for explaining better. I thought for ages how to explain so in the end i just went with yup indeedy lol
thesire said:
its not free you pay for it through the cost of the phone (including in which is the cost of software and operating system). That is why its legal for you to flash cooked rom to your kaiser as cooked roms are based on the operating system that came with your device.
In sense of kaiser though yes MSVC is free as long as it came with a rom
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Exactly, I was in "limbo" as to whether or not it was warez in cab form or not. However, after having a discussion with a few mods it was explained to me.
The fine line is that if it is included in the rom, then yes, your fine. However, in cab format, it then has the ability to be installed in a rom or on a device for which it was not intended, therefore making it warez.
Trust me, I was just as confused about the issue as the rest until it was clearly explained to me the other day. Learning something everyday. Man this forum is awesome.
Thank you to everyone for understanding.
Now that HT has released their first android mobile, is there any cance that any of the android projects on Xperia will be dug up agein and new attempts to make this wonderful phone even better?
There is already a thread about Android and the X1. I don't understand why people that want Android buy WM-phones...
de Wolfe said:
There is already a thread about Android and the X1. I don't understand why people that want Android buy WM-phones...
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lol...you have a point there....
maybe because the G1 hardware is crap. Or maybe they just want to try android before buying an android phone.
Not being a smart ass, just saying.
Maybe because Android has lot of programs which windows doesn't.
Oddly enough, on the Magic forums is a thread with people asking about putting WinMo on the Magic.
People with a WinMo phone want to try Android.
People with Android phones want to try WinMo.
It's kind of strange.
ZenithUK said:
Oddly enough, on the Magic forums is a thread with people asking about putting WinMo on the Magic.
People with a WinMo phone want to try Android.
People with Android phones want to try WinMo.
It's kind of strange.
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because they want to be unique, and can show off with friend
dude6595 said:
lol...you have a point there....
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+1 So have I
Well the sad truth is that we are all a little ... crazy about mobile phones maybe ????
and we want to change ... also if its for worse ... and try new things ... thats the truth ...
cheers
i want android on the phone because i want to be able to try many different things on the same phone I didnt buy xperia for the winmo i bought it for its hardware so that it would b cabably to run pretty much anything installed on it smoothly. not to mention i loved the design and the qwerty keyboard and yes i know there is an android thead and i've looked at it and tried 0.8 and 0.9 but none of them worked. you could boot android but the phone was just an empty shell nothing worked. thats why im exited to know if any progress has been made since then.
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There is already a thread about Android and the X1. I don't understand why people that want Android buy WM-phones...
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i cant agree with u more！
de Wolfe said:
There is already a thread about Android and the X1. I don't understand why people that want Android buy WM-phones...
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It might also be because of the stupid Google Developer crap where their shipping company is charging $200 to ship out of USA to some countries.