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ALL AT&T Tilt Owners Have Been Left Behind

The AT&T Tilt did not recievve a ROM update today. This means no accelerated graphics for us and no WM 6.1. Thank you HTC and AT&T you have all been a big help.

bubbleking2 said:
The AT&T Tilt did not recievve a ROM update today. This means no accelerated graphics for us and no WM 6.1. Thank you HTC and AT&T you have all been a big help.
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Old news ! Not nice to start a " new " thread for something we had not expected anyway.

Yeah, I know its old news. But even so, a large amount of people do not know this, so its still worth posting.

Do you realize what board you're on? Don't generalize, you have been left behind, not me. I've been running WM6.1 on my Tilt since the winter when it first leaked and have been running the lasted build since Monday.

bubbleking2 said:
Yeah, I know its old news. But even so, a large amount of people do not know this, so its still worth posting.
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Everyone here knows this and it is not worth posting as you will find out.

No, I have browsed through some threads and it seemed that a decent amount of people had not realized that only the HTC-Branded devices had recieved the update.

People who read stuff already knew for like a month that the update would probably be only for HTC branded devices, I guess you don't.
Anyways, it doesn't mean there won't be official updates for you, just that your company, whichever it is, will have to customize things first before releasing a rom, especially adding all their bloatware.
Oh, and about accelerated graphics, please, noone got them, it's not that you're a special target.

I know that there were some "fixes" but no drivers, and it has been said that ATT users will get it, just when they get ready to release it after adding all their crap.

Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
/rant

DarkDvr said:
Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
/rant
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I am here to help , what was the question ? I just heard a rant that the mods have said ( continually ) is not appropriate for these forums. If you read the official announcement from HTC when they announced the TYtN upgrade, they said that they had no plans to release an upgrade fer the Tilt in the near future. Why is this rant important to this forum?

What are you talking about denco? This is not even a rant, it is a statement. I did not mean for it to be a rant and I did not mean for people to mistake it as one. I merely meant to inform people that only the branded HTC devices got the update. It appeared as though alot of people had not realized this, or, at least enough for me to post. I can even show you some quotes if you need me too.
Denco, please look up the definition of 'rant'.

htc rom
Just talked to HTC. There is no 6.1 rom from them for the HTC phones (mine is the TYTN II) available anywhere on the globe.

bubbleking2 said:
... I merely meant to inform people that only the branded HTC devices got the update...
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I am not trying to entice the argument here, but i will add couple of things:
a) Most of the "regular" members here at xda already know that the tilt or any other branded version of the tytnII will not be getting the updates. (emphasis on regular).
b) none of the xda members really care about official updates as we have very gifted and talented chefs here that can port roms for us (and we are truly greatful for that) and seeing that the only diffrence between the TytnII and tilt is the front camera that shouldn't be a big deal.
c) drivers (which there aren't none) can also be ported. There are chefs already working on porting the diamond drivers over to tilt which runs vga.
Having said that i would like to thank you for the info ... but unfortunately its old news and no one likes repeatedly hearing old news.

bubbleking2 said:
The AT&T Tilt did not recievve a ROM update today. This means no accelerated graphics for us and no WM 6.1. Thank you HTC and AT&T you have all been a big help.
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Did you try hitting the download link at the bottom of this link -
http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=67&act=sd
? (Posted by jdmba)
Welcome to the ROM update for the AT&T Tilt. Please review the following prior to downloading and installing the latest ROM update (version 1.62.502.0) on your device.
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I very nearly downloaded this one by mistake. I registered with htc but my phone S/N is not a real HTC device and was still logged in, but I managed to (mistakenly) download the file from that link without much issue.
That help?

That's still only 6.0..

ZOMGWTFBBQ!!!!!1111one
Those bastards! Oh wait. I'm not worse off than I was before. Even If I didn't have XDA to feed my obsession for ROM flashing.

DarkDvr said:
Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
/rant
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um what is there to help with? It doesn't seem like the OP had a question or required help in any way. He came on and made an ignorant statement.

leon sprouse said:
Just talked to HTC. There is no 6.1 rom from them for the HTC phones (mine is the TYTN II) available anywhere on the globe.
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I don't know who you spoke with but they were wrong; I just ran the HTC RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility) from the HTC e-club web site and the splash screen clearly states Windows Mobile 6.1. I have an HTC TYTN II and it works great.

DarkDvr said:
Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
/rant
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LOL, nice call on NASIOC...as well as EvoM

The thing that puzzles me about this is the way the AT&T Tilt gets singled out as if it's special - in reality it's just one dozens of rebranded Kaisers around the globe, none of which have had an official update. I have a "Vodafone V1615", am I whining about where to download a Vodafone update for my Vodafone V1615? No, of course not, with the help of this forum it's been running the original HTC rom since October, and upgraded to the HTC 6.1 update a couple of days ago (before it was released by HTC in fact). So what's the problem?
The irony is the AT&T Tilt is (I believe) the only variant to have it's own section of the HTC website, and to actually have already had a rom upgrade back in February, albeit 6.0 only. Where are all the complaints about that from owners of the V1615, or the T-Mobile Vario 3, or the Orange Tytn II, or O2 XDA Stellar, or the "3" Tytn II, etc etc..?

Official WM6.5 for Pro2 on 6 October!!

hi to all
i want download official wm 6.5 for my pro2!! is it Release from HTC?!!

{insert facepalm here}

I think he meant to put a ? instead of a !

I contacted HTC in the Netherlands and they wrote me they dont have an exact date yet when they will release it on their website.

Where do you get it will be released today?
And yes, when released, it will be available on the HTC website.

Some websites stated 6th Oct too, but since I cant find it anywhere in HTC website...
So I guess its not true that the new ROM is out lol

The fact that Microsoft officially releases it to the world does not meant that manufacturers such as HTC automaticaly release it as well.
In theory the development cycle for manufacturers only starts today. The fact that big players such as HTC have had WM6.5 at their disposal earlier than today only makes that their release date will be somewhat sooner than what normally could be expected ...
Patience y'all !!

Orange say they'll have 6.5 available for download by October 12th, so i guess HTC will release it by then.
http://bangbangtech.com/archives/111225/windows-mobile-6-5-update-arriving-october-12th

@HTC website:
Customers with an original HTC Touch Diamond2 or Touch Pro2 will be able to update their phone via a new ROM which will be available from HTC’s website in the coming weeks at www.htc.com.

Useless thread... ...next time post in some off-topic thread please :S

Unchained said:
@HTC website:
Customers with an original HTC Touch Diamond2 or Touch Pro2 will be able to update their phone via a new ROM which will be available from HTC’s website in the coming weeks at www.htc.com.
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yeah but frankly who is ever gonna do this upgrade to the orignial dull rom when you have those great chefs and great cooked roms. Even when they will release WM6.5, we will wait for cooked ones

mccune said:
Useless thread... ...next time post in some off-topic thread please :S
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+1 closing thread..

Fully Tested Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM for Touch HD

I am just wondering if the chefs are going to be making a fully tested windows mobile 6.5 rom anytime? If they will, will there still be bugs in them and especially the lock screen?

In before the abuse.
There are plenty of Windows Mobile 6.5 ROMs out there but unlike desktop operating sytems there are many many different versions.
Even official roms are going to have bugs, all we can do (as Touch HD users that will likely never get an official 6.5 rom) is find an active chefs whose work we like and give feedback on their releases...
...although even then I doubt we can "fully test" them.

7896zx said:
I am just wondering if the chefs are going to be making a fully tested windows mobile 6.5 rom anytime? If they will, will there still be bugs in them and especially the lock screen?
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agree with E Punk... the chefs test as best they can then it's up to us. when i hear "fully tested", i think of a high-level test strategy, detailed test plans (positive/negative tests), unit test, integration test, use case, debug-fix, user-acceptance-test, more debug-fix, etc., etc. that's simply a lot of work... once we get a hold of a ROM, load it, use it and report findings the chefs can review posts to look for consistent errors and those are generally fixed pretty fast. bottom line: if we wanna play, we have to be willing to accept that there will be bugs, behavior quirks or whatever you want to call it. the problem some of us have is knowing when to STOP flashing, lol!!!

i think that a version without major bugs will be out when htc releases official winmo6.5 rom updates for touch diamond2 and touch pro2, as those phones share 99% hardware with our hd

wm6.5 Downloads
Hi all
It is all very well 4 u experts. All these talk about flashing rom and WM6.5. However, no mention of where really this WM6.5 download is, the guy on youtube points to places that do not exist on xda developers site. I open Mary one thing it does not show any of the things he talks about. Also the hard spl he talks about caused me to waste 2 full days trying to restore my phone to its original function. Yes it was grbaged until with pere=severance I figured out a simple download to restore it. Can any one please make simple straight forward steps to find the WM6.5 download?

nboutros said:
Hi all
It is all very well 4 u experts. All these talk about flashing rom and WM6.5. However, no mention of where really this WM6.5 download is, the guy on youtube points to places that do not exist on xda developers site. I open Mary one thing it does not show any of the things he talks about. Also the hard spl he talks about caused me to waste 2 full days trying to restore my phone to its original function. Yes it was grbaged until with pere=severance I figured out a simple download to restore it. Can any one please make simple straight forward steps to find the WM6.5 download?
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With all due respect, I can only assume based on your post count that you are new to the HD, you need to read this forum more. Find the wiki and and read it. I was on this forum for 4 months before I flashed my first rom. Windows 6.5 is not meant for our HDs. A lot of the issues that people are complaining about may or may not affect you. I have no problem with daily use with most of the roms I read and read before and after I flash. I don't expect anyone else to do the dirty work for me but there will always be someone who gets there before me. All these posts are inundated with "does this feature work" or "in the last rom I could do this can this rom do it". I know it is a pain in the backside to flash you phone all time but that is why we are hear. If you are just wanting the perfect rom then you are probably in the wrong place.
I hope this does not come across to hard but I read this forum almost every day. The best advice I can give you is to read then read some more. Or you could end up with an expensive brick.

nboutros said:
Hi all
It is all very well 4 u experts. All these talk about flashing rom and WM6.5. However, no mention of where really this WM6.5 download is, the guy on youtube points to places that do not exist on xda developers site. I open Mary one thing it does not show any of the things he talks about. Also the hard spl he talks about caused me to waste 2 full days trying to restore my phone to its original function. Yes it was grbaged until with pere=severance I figured out a simple download to restore it. Can any one please make simple straight forward steps to find the WM6.5 download?
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had myself a HD for a week, and with the help of XDA wiki flashed it (like about 50 times right now). Just read, and if you need any help just pm me

7896zx said:
I am just wondering if the chefs are going to be making a fully tested windows mobile 6.5 rom anytime? If they will, will there still be bugs in them and especially the lock screen?
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This isn't an attack.
You don't understand the extent to which a cook has control over most bugs (or doesn't). Most of the bugs you see in the ROMs you're looking at are way beyond the cooks control. Remember, they don't have the source code -- they can't fix the software. What they can do is look for updated versions from the developers that might have fixed a problem (but maybe introduce new ones). The biggest control chefs have is over things that can be controlled in the registry: things like visual layou, etc. In addition, some optimization options are available when packaging the ROM, however, I'd advise that you just understand that 6.5 is still an unreleased beta product (even if plans for release have been finalized) at this point.
Your friendly community (volunteer) chefs have done all they can to bring us interesting samples of this upcoming product. The bugs are not a result of lack of testing at all.
Rob

dhatw said:
With all due respect, I can only assume based on your post count that you are new to the HD, you need to read this forum more. Find the wiki and and read it. I was on this forum for 4 months before I flashed my first rom. Windows 6.5 is not meant for our HDs. A lot of the issues that people are complaining about may or may not affect you. I have no problem with daily use with most of the roms I read and read before and after I flash. I don't expect anyone else to do the dirty work for me but there will always be someone who gets there before me. All these posts are inundated with "does this feature work" or "in the last rom I could do this can this rom do it". I know it is a pain in the backside to flash you phone all time but that is why we are hear. If you are just wanting the perfect rom then you are probably in the wrong place.
I hope this does not come across to hard but I read this forum almost every day. The best advice I can give you is to read then read some more. Or you could end up with an expensive brick.
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Judging from how "4" and "u" are not words, and the way this unknown "youtube" guy has given him the impression that he's a representative of xda-dev, I'd say he's new the HD, and somewhat new to life -- maybe 14 or so years old.
Reminds me of the tone that AOL users had when they first came onto the "Internet". They used to angrily demand tech support for the Internet from ops in IRC as if those people worked for some "service" that they were paying for. Oh, those were the days.
Your advice was perfect.
Rob

Slightly going off orginal query topic which has already been answered well in my opinion by both Electronic Punk & cortez.i. Not much else needs to be discussed on that topic
Thread closed

Official T-Mobile WinMo6.5 "Upgrade" Opinion (kind of @NRGZ28 related)

Official T-Mobile WinMo6.5 "Upgrade" Opinion (kind of @NRGZ28 related)
I just flashed (or whatever it’s called) the official T-Mobile RUU_Rhodium_S_TMOUS_1.91.531.4_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.57_Signed_Ship.exe upgrade. I have been using NRGroms since I first received my TP2 which I think was in Oct. I actually sometimes still use an old ROM I like best, EnergyROM 23016 Rhodium 10.17.09 Standard. 23016 has been my favorite upgrade build for WinMo I think. But what do I know about the background work. I just know it’s had the best stability of all ROMs I’ve used and 23016 and has the better customizable standard 6.5 start menu. For example, when you long press and item instead of saying “Move to Top”, it lets you drag it anywhere a la Droid home screen. Well not as customizable. I didn't even try the original stock ROM until the 3rd or 4th TP2 I "purchased" for a friend or family member. Right now they are FREE and you can even get $100 for your old smartphone lying around. I sent in an old Tmo Dash non 3g that I fuct up and got the rebate. You can get that rebate here http://www.htctradein.com/t-mobile/ . As for the link for the free phone I don’t want to post it to keep it active as long as possible. But if you really want it though, just PM me.
Ok so back to the Official 6.5 Rom. Well about say 6-7 hours of use I can say that I will more than likely be heading back to EnergyROM_21885_RHODIUM_31.Dec.2009_Standard or the 23016 build. There are few things irk me that aren’t done off the bat on the new Tmo build. First is the 3 row start menu which I know can be easily changed to 4, but it isn’t. Also, when you lay the phone face down the speakerphone does not automatically activate. The folders aren’t nicely managed on the huge start menu. (Sorry I’m a little baked so can’t think clearly. Just went to a friend’s house to pick up 2 laptops I’m going to fix for him and he greeted me at the sink with a great already loaded gravity bong with some decent nug so I’m not thinking to clearly and can’t remember everything I really hate.) I don’t like Manila, I use SPB Mobile Shell, but this one doesn’t compare to 2.5 of even the 2.1 on NRGs. Umm the background is a little ehh. Of course no tethering and all other great included NRG freeware apps he cooked in. Umm it comes with 6.5 build 21881.5.0.84 compared to NRG 218815 that I use. Lots of bloatware somewhere or official apps I haven’t yet tried to remove but when installing my first cab I noticed there a good chunk of internal memory missing compared to the much lighter NRG build with much more useful freeware included. It must be the included TeleNav app, plus a few others.
So don’t get me wrong, it’s a great Official Rom. For a standard user off the street I’d definitely recommend it to. I’m just comparing it to what I am used to. Every time I get an Android, I come right back. WinMo is by far the supreme OS to me. I just can’t wait for “Windows Phone 7.” I don’t post much so don’t get upset if I post in the wrong place or if I comeback to say the original point I meant to make in this opinion that I forgot somewhere along the tree branched mix up there. What does everyone else think? What do you not like or **** do you like. Got to get back to business as usual but wanted to leave a little insight on the official ROM for those of you thinking of making the switch. In my honest opinion, just keep the NRG because it’s not worth the hassle and I’ve already done a lot of work customizing NRG ROMS to my preference. Well take easy. Sorry again for the Larry David-esque post about nothing.
tRodHxC

Download link?
Is there a link where the Official T-Mobile 6.5 rom can be downloaded from? I searched Google on the name that you listed, "T-Mobile RUU_Rhodium_S_TMOUS_1.91.531.4_Radio_Rhodium_4.49. 25.57_Signed_Ship.exe" and only found this thread in my results.
THanks!

Ya heres where i got it...
BohicaBobby said:
Is there a link where the Official T-Mobile 6.5 rom can be downloaded from? I searched Google on the name that you listed, "T-Mobile RUU_Rhodium_S_TMOUS_1.91.531.4_Radio_Rhodium_4.49. 25.57_Signed_Ship.exe" and only found this thread in my results.
THanks!
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T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 ROM Leaked!!! Download here!
http://bit.ly/5AGLnC
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http://76.163.140.78/RUU_Rhodium_S_TMOUS_1.91.531.4_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.57_Signed_Ship.exe

Link
Enjoy!

Hey man,
My name's josh, Just wonderin what the purpouse of you're thread is. i'm a little confused about it, it disscusses NRG's rom and the official rom, both have they're own threads. Why start a new thread??

joshkoss said:
Hey man,
My name's josh, Just wonderin what the purpouse of you're thread is. i'm a little confused about it, it disscusses NRG's rom and the official rom, both have they're own threads. Why start a new thread??
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Well from reading his post, he said he is "baked" so one can only assume baked+computer=pointless posts.
In all seriousness though, I find the big problem I have with the new Unofficial "official" Tmo US rom is that it is just way too slow. Everything else aside, the slowness is what kills this rom for me. However its nice to have an offical rom to downgrade to in the event that the phone breaks or w/e.
And come on. We finally have visual voicemail on our TP2's!!

Too true my friend...
closing thread.. please post questions regarding nrg's rom in his thread and the same with the official thread.
Peace,
Josh

wildfire not getting froyo?

sent virginmedia an email via twitter and i got told that there is still time for wildfire to get updated if it does at all.

zaphod-159 said:
sent virginmedia an email via twitter and i got told that there is still time for wildfire to get updated if it does at all.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afw91GxLalQ
s/school is/solid/
Stop flooding, no offense, but if you had read correctly threads in this forum (wildfire android development) you would have see that anyway :
- HTC will release 2.2 roms for their wildfire smartphone
- Virgin Media annonced their release for this month / might be the first to release 2.2 for wildfire
- we'll get CyanogenMod 6.0 anyway, they need to work on it or get their hands on a wildfire 2.2 roms. just a matter of time.
plus, Virgin Media is only a telecom provider, they won't port themselves anything; they'll just wait to get the HTC 2.2 official (WWE / unbranded) rom and mod it to include their settings.
Please, check your sources before posting 2 lines concerning a mail you sent in a hurry and its answer, especially when its such a bad news / against every infos we have already.
If you want to see how things evolve, wait and see, read what's said in important threads and wait again.
There's no point in asking for links or infos / posting "up" / etc... as nothing concerning froyo has been released, any "non-productive" posts won't help relevant infos to be SEEN. who would read 57 pages on the WildPuzzle thread when most of the post are redondant and concerns problem users made themselves not taking time to read and flash correctly...
Sorry if I'm preaching on you, thats a "Developpement" forum, every new events brings a constant flood of impatient people. We need clarity
Ps: I'll finish this post by a simple hug, we cool right ?

im quoting from the email the twitter team of virgin media sent me: "There is an impending update for the Desire which is due to be released shortly. In regards to the Wildfire there is nothing we can say this stage or whether there is going to be an updated available."
and, no worries im not offended at all.

and FYI, i have read nearly all posts in all threads and ive been doing so for about a month now.

zaphod-159 said:
and FYI, i have read nearly all posts in all threads and ive been doing so for about a month now.
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Middle august they posted this :
http://twitter.com/virginmedia/statuses/21400176328
without any other twitt about it, I take this link as reference. They might delay the wildfire's release, which would make sense as no one else announced official 2.2 roms (vodafone/xxx/htc...) soon.
There's also this post from MartinEve, you had read yourself :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8074616&postcount=28
Thats why 2 lines resuming the opposite with even less "official" source is disturbing
ps: I'm not saying you don't read anything, it's a small amalgam, I'm responding to you BUT saying things that applies for all

im just sayin what they told me. believe it or dont.
besides its not anything less official than what they posted in august.
and yes i read that and thats what made me ask them via twitter myself, in the hope of getting and eta or anythin like that.