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OK i A D O R E this phone so far! Everything that annoyed me about the Universal, doesn't apply to this phone!
1 thing i have noticed... when i move the stylus across the screen, it feels 'scratchy' and im getting paranoid that im going to start scratch teh screen lol, has anyone else noticed this?!
Got mine today -- the first thing I did was to put on a WriteShield screen protector on it. I had one left over from my Wizard; the Kaiser screen is almost exactly the same size as the Wizard's.
Note that there should be a screen protector in the box -- use it if you're worried about scratching the screen.
My wizard did that but never scratched. The touch screen is made to withstand your stylus and other tiny abuse. Never the less, slap on a screen protector for sure.
yes, i did feel that the kaiser screen has more friction when i write especially in chinese on it with the stylus. then i put a screen protector on it and now its all smooth. the screen protector that came in the box was trash, it was not smooth and the transparent rate wasnt that high.
Damn, I am so horny about kaiser, I can hardly wait for it. However since I live in Croatia, it's probably take another month or so for T-Com to start selling them here.
Currently I own MDA Vario, and what I mostly hate about it, is the fact that stylus is sliding out of phone shell. Mine started falling out in less than two months after I bought my Vario.
Do you think that they have the same design flaw in kaiser? Why didn't they at least make the stylus hole on top of device (like HP did for IPaq PDA-s)?
mdm said:
Damn, I am so horny about kaiser, I can hardly wait for it. However since I live in Croatia, it's probably take another month or so for T-Com to start selling them here.
Currently I own MDA Vario, and what I mostly hate about it, is the fact that stylus is sliding out of phone shell. Mine started falling out in less than two months after I bought my Vario.
Do you think that they have the same design flaw in kaiser? Why didn't they at least make the stylus hole on top of device (like HP did for IPaq PDA-s)?
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People had that problem with the Universal (although i never did )
The stylus on the Kaiser seems VERY secure, i'm sure you'll have absolutely no issues with it coming out.
Pooper said:
Everything that annoyed me about the Universal, doesn't apply to this phone!
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Can you please be more specific? I just need one more little push to retire my Uni...
Pooper said:
1 thing i have noticed... when i move the stylus across the screen, it feels 'scratchy' and im getting paranoid that im going to start scratch teh screen lol, has anyone else noticed this?!
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Both my Hermes and Kaiser started of a little "gritty" at the start. I think there is a a fine coating that wears off after a while. Certainly my Hermes did and the Kaiser after a couple of days use is beginning to smooth out. Just something that is present when it's so new.
Worth noting that I've been pushing loads of apps onto the Kaiser, including memory hungry ones and NO Lock ups at all so far and it's fast compared to the TyTn. To those that said why upgrade for the sake of a couple of new things (GPS mainly), I can only say that so far it's behaved perfectly.
One minor concern - despite the overall speed benefit, my IE scrolling seems a bit gltchy anyone else noticed this?
Mike
mikechannon said:
Both my Hermes and Kaiser started of a little "gritty" at the start. I think there is a a fine coating that wears off after a while. Certainly my Hermes did and the Kaiser after a couple of days use is beginning to smooth out. Just something that is present when it's so new.
Worth noting that I've been pushing loads of apps onto the Kaiser, including memory hungry ones and NO Lock ups at all so far and it's fast compared to the TyTn. To those that said why upgrade for the sake of a couple of new things (GPS mainly), I can only say that so far it's behaved perfectly.
One minor concern - despite the overall speed benefit, my IE scrolling seems a bit gltchy anyone else noticed this?
Mike
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i agree..its glitchy and slower then the first ty tn
I have searched for this but only seem to be able to find one reference to it but no replies so maybe Im the only one......
I have had my Kaiser for a bout a month - not used extensively yet but noticed only a few days ago that the D-Pad is loose in its seating - it appears to be excessively so and "wiggles" quite a lot.
either this is just me...or being new to HTC, its normal. Can anyone confirm/deny
thanks
Mine is loose too...
Mine too, and was loose from day one...
noticed mine yesterday too... could see the led on it
Might open it over the weekend to see if its a case of tightning or adding something to the keys to mak e it tighter
I also thought i was the only one, been like that since unboxing, it's looseness is kind of annoying
Noticed mine after about a week, and also two more which were literally just out of the box.
It's annoying, but I'm prepared to live with it. Form wise it's one of the better build qualities and I'm still generally over the moon with it. Just wish it ran like an iphone! bought someone an ipod touch the other day and man it's so damn pretty!! I just kept telling myself that my phone does all the iphone does and more, UI wise it's just a little more plain-jane hehe.
Ant
the tytn ii is way better than iphone; better everything - no-one should need to tell you that
iphone is a girly phone. all it does is look pretty
apart from d-pad, im very chuffed with mine. also now running pocketmusic 5 on it and that makes it as good a music player.
Mine is loose too, but i just kind of got used to it.
it does seem like some of the shiny finish is starting to chip off though. that annoys me a bit more.
I had to send my tytn II off for repair due to another issue. Calls/texts would not work while in 3g areas. Anyways I got the phone back and noticed this aswell about the d-pad, but I wasnt sure if it was like that before I send it off. But I really notice it now and it annoys me, all in all tho apart from that its a fantasic phone. Glad I not the only one with this problem.
i notied mine is lose to this week ...
Ok, this loose d-pad issue was raised before and it is not a problem. All TyTn IIs have about 1mm of play. The d-pad has a "lip" which is seated under the front bezel. It will not fall out and it is a standard part of the design - just ignore it it does not cause problems.
Mike
Mandiven said:
I had to send my tytn II off for repair due to another issue. Calls/texts would not work while in 3g areas. Anyways I got the phone back and noticed this aswell about the d-pad, but I wasnt sure if it was like that before I send it off. But I really notice it now and it annoys me, all in all tho apart from that its a fantasic phone. Glad I not the only one with this problem.
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The "looseness" is part of the design. The D-pad is subjected to finger pressure all the time it is used, it is expected to have some free-play movement.
My d-pad has also this kind of "looseness"
But this is very strange because this looseness is only on the left side of the d-pad. It seems to me that something has been broken!
Melkor
I've got the same problem.
I solved it with a small piece of screenprotector which I placed on top of the d-pad beneath the edge.
Noticed that the first thing I took it out of the box. Not a big deal to me.
Melkor said:
My d-pad has also this kind of "looseness"
But this is very strange because this looseness is only on the left side of the d-pad. It seems to me that something has been broken!
Melkor
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No it's not broken. What is unusual is that yours only slides about on one side - most slide around all round (slightly more on top / bottom edges. I think if you tried a little more force it would slide all round. It really is not a fault and not a problem. (the pad merely sits on top of the actual switches and is not connected to them - so the movement is of no consequence)
Mike
Yeah, that's normal, mine too... This is the new HTC quality ...
Really, this device sucks !!!!!!!!!!!
- Not good for gaming
- Not good for playing videos
- Bad quality D-pad
- Keyboard not very good (worse than the original TYTN one) from my point of view
And all of that for around 700 € ... !!!!
Anyone who want to buy a new pocket pc, please think twice before choosing the Kai-**** !
The more I use it, the more I hate it ... I have it for about two weeks now and I still prefere to use my HTC prophet !
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The "looseness" is part of the design. The D-pad is subjected to finger pressure all the time it is used, it is expected to have some free-play movement.
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Can you please explain where is the interest of this looseness ? I had many pocketpc before this one (and 2 x HTC's), and it is the first time I meet this looseness. And from my point of view, yes , it is annoying !
I hate the feeling I have when pressing the pad or the buttons, when you should have a high quality machine (700 € ...) it is disapointing to feel the buttons moving under your fingers.
When I recieved my first Tilt, the D-Pad was very loose. Also, the UP button had to be mashed a little hard for it to work. It would do the 'click', but wouldn't engage unless you pressed a little harder. This was happening from the minute I took it out of the box. It was very annoying so I returned it for a new one. The new phone D-Pad is not loose at all and works perfectly. I've had this second Tilt now since about 10 days after release, so it's received quite a bit of use. Not sure what's up, but there was something wrong with the first Tilt I received.
Was at a football game last Sunday & dropped my phone on the ground. It must of fell out of my lap when I jumped up to cheer. Now that hurts! I've been babying it too. Oh well, it was bound to happened sooner or later.
Now my Tilt has scratches on the left & right bottom corners. I was thinking about taking a fine grade of sandpaper & sanding it down. Has anyone tried smoothing out a ding on there phone before. If so, what did you use?
I just recently found a small nick on the top corner of my Tilt. I'm assuming I got it the same day I dropped it. That means my phone must of cart wheeled before falling on its back! *OUCH, That hurts literally!*
Sorry to hear that bud,
Check out this site, they carry the housing for our lil toy
http://cnn.cn/shop/8925-tilt-kaiser-c-277_448.html
Hope it helps,
Cheers.
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Sorry to hear that bud,
Check out this site, they carry the housing for our lil toy
http://cnn.cn/shop/8925-tilt-kaiser-c-277_448.html
Hope it helps,
Cheers.
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Thanks for the link! It's good to know that they sell the OEM casing. It's not cheap though.
I dropped mine for the first time on Saturday night. I almost cried, haha. I have one ding on the bottom corner, towards the back, by the stylus.
I've been doing really well, considering that I usually drop a new device a day or two after getting it.
Last week, however, I was showing off the camera album feature to my sister-in-law and she just had to have a go herself.
Cue my lovely Vario III hitting the ground a second later.
No damage at all though, so I've forgiven her!
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I dropped mine for the first time on Saturday night. I almost cried, haha. I have one ding on the bottom corner, towards the back, by the stylus.
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That's when it's time to call AT&T......
"If the phone is all of a sudden not working the way it's supposed to... they replace it, free if it's still under warranty".
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I dropped mine for the first time on Saturday night. I almost cried, haha. I have one ding on the bottom corner, towards the back, by the stylus.
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How funny that's where mine got scuffed up too, right next to the stylus. I was hoping the stylus was the one that substained the damage so I can chage it out. Mine also got scuffed up on the bottom left hand side. It bounced around first before laying on the ground. For the weight and size of this phone I was expecting more damage from the fall.
I guess the more your carefull not to drop the phone the more prone it is to happened.
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How funny that's where mine got scuffed up too, right next to the stylus. I was hoping the stylus was the one that substained the damage so I can chage it out. Mine also got scuffed up on the bottom left hand side. It bounced around first before laying on the ground. For the weight and size of this phone I was expecting more damage from the fall.
I guess the more your carefull not to drop the phone the more prone it is to happened.
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ATT warranty exchange..... that's all i have to say.
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ATT warranty exchange..... that's all i have to say.
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I thought they gave you refurbs when using warranty exchange.
I dropped mine couple of weeks ago... I was doing a research paper for my university, and papers were all over the place... and sadly my TyTN II was between two papers... so when I pulled one of them... the device flew in the air and landed on the floor... fortunately there was a thick carpet on the floor... thus no harm is done... but during the next five min while I was checking if my phone is still working... I was so pale and scared :s
Man! I hope this does not happen to any of you guys...
Cheers
dropped mine after 2 weeks of having it - i was jogging to the bus at the time - fumbled it out of my belt ouch and dropped it - i accidentally stamped on it at the same time, on rough knobly tarmac, face-down - i skidded a bit on it too, sort of like a sktebaord - i was like 'omgomgomg' picked it up and by some sort of miricle the screen was untouched - fascia is a bit knacked but it all works just fine, only thing is the tilt mechanism is a bit loose now though its still sturdy (ie i can push the top right side and the screen bit will angle slightly against the body, but only by a few millimetres)
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This will cover any damage to the case and protect it.
I was running into work in a heavy rain carrying a large laptop bag, so I was running fairly spastic, and my Tilt popped out of the case, slid face down on the sidewalk into a puddle. The battery popped out, as well as the stylus. I grabbed all I could find (had to go back later to find the stylus) and shook it out. Then I used a heat gun to gently warm the unit up. after 2 hours, I put the battery back in and it powered up fine, except the touchscreen was dead.
I then left it on my desk on charge with bluetooth, 3g,Wlan and screen full bright on, to generate as much internal heat as possible. After another 2 hours, the touch screen would randomly activate items on the today screen, every minute or so. After watching that for an hour with no real response from the touchscreen yet, I power cycled the phone, and to my surprise, the touch screen worked. Been working ever since.
Luckily the battery poped out otherwise I would think the device would have got fried?
Well, as idiotic as it may sound, I did put the battery back in and power up the phone while it was wet. It seemed to boot up just fine, but I pulled the battery after 15 seconds as to not push my luck.
My Drop . . .
I was running up stairs in my office building (concrete with metal stairstep edging), when something (my Tilt OMG!) suddenly clattered onto the stairs - apparently I had not made sure the magnetic flap on my case was firmly connected - it popped open and the SIM card holder popped out - I fearfully picked it up and inspected - can't find a scratch on it! and it works fine, and nothing seems loose! I'm shocked, surprised and pleased, but will be more careful in the future, obviously (in almost 2 years with my Wizard, I never once dropped it!).
Try to burnish the scuffed areas with a smooth piece of plastic. Start slow and it might kind of fill in by smoothing the rough edges. Kind of like a good paint job on an auto, get it flat as possible and it will shine like a diamond in a goats A*s.
Dropped my 8525 a couple of times and fixed it as mentioned above. Dropped my tilt the first day and it missed the concrete by a fraction of an inch and landed on carpet. Lucky for me only the back flew off and my great little toy is unmared so far.
The older I get the less my hands seem to be actually connected to my body and under my control...
Did I mention I love my tilt and this site?
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Try to burnish the scuffed areas with a smooth piece of plastic. Start slow and it might kind of fill in by smoothing the rough edges. Kind of like a good paint job on an auto, get it flat as possible and it will shine like a diamond in a goats A*s.
Dropped my 8525 a couple of times and fixed it as mentioned above. Dropped my tilt the first day and it missed the concrete by a fraction of an inch and landed on carpet. Lucky for me only the back flew off and my great little toy is unmared so far.
The older I get the less my hands seem to be actually connected to my body and under my control...
Did I mention I love my tilt and this site?
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What kind of plastic are you using?
I tried using some Brasso Metal Polish, but it didn't do anything for it. The Brasso would work on scratches, but I have chunks missing from the plastic on my Tilt & dings. I'm willing to try anything as long as I don't harm my baby! I already feel like she's been abused! LOL!
Ositohbi said:
Try to burnish the scuffed areas with a smooth piece of plastic. Start slow and it might kind of fill in by smoothing the rough edges. Kind of like a good paint job on an auto, get it flat as possible and it will shine like a diamond in a goats A*s.
Dropped my 8525 a couple of times and fixed it as mentioned above. Dropped my tilt the first day and it missed the concrete by a fraction of an inch and landed on carpet. Lucky for me only the back flew off and my great little toy is unmared so far.
The older I get the less my hands seem to be actually connected to my body and under my control...
Did I mention I love my tilt and this site?
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I was lucky like you before & dropped it ion carpet, but this time my luck ran out! I guess you can say it was bound to happened somtime.
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ATT warranty exchange..... that's all i have to say.
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Does AT&T do exchanges on accidental drops. What about if its passed the 30day window from the say you pruchased it?
So i just dropped my phone from head height onto a concrete floor
It slipped out of my hand while i was talking as i bumped into someone.
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It survived! no marks, i'm not sure how it landed, but it was screen down on the floor when i found it.
Has anyone else dropped theirs and how has it managed? I'm sure we'd all like to know how much abuse it actually can handle.
same happens here...
and it dropped exactly the same way as yours did..haah
just like yours, no scratch and yet nth bad happened yet
Would have been even funnier if u were the one i bumped into lol
I think the cut off corners on the back really help. The back is heavier due to the battery and if it falls on a corner it seems to fall on the back cut off corner.
What a nightmare
i had 2 accidents. one of them "bent" the soft aluminum in the corner. still black and still working. the second one was so powerful that dissembled my diamond in 3 pieces: diamond (lol), cover and battery. i found the battery 2 meters from the disaster scene. this PDA seems to be a sturdy SOB..
any way, don't try this at home folks!!!1
Oh my preciousssss...
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i had 2 accidents. one of them "bent" the soft aluminum in the corner. still black and still working. the second one was so powerful that dissembled my diamond in 3 pieces: diamond (lol), cover and battery. i found the battery 2 meters from the disaster scene. this PDA seems to be a sturdy SOB..
any way, don't try this at home folks!!!1
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Sounds like it's dangerous there rehovot
Nadavi
pedmond said:
Oh my preciousssss...
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hahaha ! smechere, vezi filme interzise....
Sounds like it's dangerous there rehovot
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אולם מסוכן...
Nice to know it can survive a few knocks! It must have been one of those oh **** moments. Did the guy actually stop to apologise, I would have probably thumped him one, not that i advocate physically attacking someone LOL
So was it rough concrete, like paving stones, or something smooth like a tilled floor?
I sat in a recliner chair outside the other day and lay back. My diamond slipped out of my pocket onto a concrete floor from about a height of 30-40cm. There's now a small (very small) dent in the aluminium bit, bottom right, near the stylus slot.
It's hardly noticable, but I was gutted at the time!
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Nice to know it can survive a few knocks! It must have been one of those oh **** moments. Did the guy actually stop to apologise, I would have probably thumped him one, not that i advocate physically attacking someone LOL
So was it rough concrete, like paving stones, or something smooth like a tilled floor?
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lol, it was my fault actually.. i was to busy talking on the phone and not paying atention. It was a smooth concrete floor thankfully!
not a diamond but...
Twice now I've had accidents with my Polaris on the running machine. The phone was resting in the slot on the machine while I was running. I must have knocked the headphone cable or something because the phone got yanked from the slot, dropped (about chest height) onto the treadmill and went flying back into the wall behind. Not even a scratch!
OUCH!!
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dropped mine from waist height....
my waist is probably higher than most of your ears lol JOKE lol again but anyways I got a little tiny scratch on the stylus....I guess thats why they give you 2 of those puppies....I love it. You know its a little heavier than most pdas from the metal frame but yes its a tough SOB and also I heard that the screen is made of some kind of really special plexiglass to prevent cracks. I heard you can drop it from a two story building and the glass will not crack!!! I would definately not try this at home but its what I heard....
I dropped it on the way back from the pub!!
The metal bezel now has three deep lines in it on the front side under the hardware buttons Fortunatly its still black
The top of the bezel on the front also has 3 scartches which have exposed the silver metal underneath.
what a disaster!
You remember that James Bond Movie with the evil guy having Diamonds in his face?
Well, my device slipped out of my hands , glided a meter or 2 on the parking ground and has now similar small dots (diamonds) on the lower part and casing.
But no worries, I gonna let "tune" paint & polish my Diamond.
They ask 150 NTD (5US) for refurbushing a PDA phone here
You guys gave me the creeeepssss.
Hmm i thought it was just me at first, but i've been checking all day, and my touch screen has become ALOT more sensative since the drop.
I actually had a phone call and while trying to fumble to pick up the call i dropped the phone. When i picked it up the touchscreen wouldnt work. After a reboot it was fine again. Now the lightest touch registers on the screen. Very wierd, but the scartches almost seem worth it to have it working so well.
I hope it doesnt die on my now :s
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Hmm i thought it was just me at first, but i've been checking all day, and my touch screen has become ALOT more sensative since the drop.
I actually had a phone call and while trying to fumble to pick up the call i dropped the phone. When i picked it up the touchscreen wouldnt work. After a reboot it was fine again. Now the lightest touch registers on the screen. Very wierd, but the scartches almost seem worth it to have it working so well.
I hope it doesnt die on my now :s
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Probably your fall activaded the Threshold tweak!
someone1234 said:
I actually had a phone call and while trying to fumble to pick up the call i dropped the phone. When i picked it up the touchscreen wouldnt work. After a reboot it was fine again. Now the lightest touch registers on the screen. Very wierd, but the scartches almost seem worth it to have it working so well.
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LOL, thats another undocumented mod that can be added to the sticky!
Hi!
I searched a bit around internet and this is not so uncomon issue, so i started this thread, to see how common it is.
In mine case first curving of keyboard appeared in 2 months. At first it seems innocent, just a little higher keyboard, just not perfectly flat anymoe. But than buttons rly become curved and the whole keyboard moves up a little. Now some letter at the top are comming off already! I see the light through holes in keyboard, i realy didnt expect this from a phone like this, as hardware quality is overall very good. Except for keyboard i suppose... Now it makes very much noise typing..
At some forum i found verizon replaced this curving with no issue, but i dont realy want to send it into repair, in my case it would last 1-2 months, i know it sucks..
So i was wondering abaut gluing it, but first i will probably buy replecement for ~10EUR and use superglue all over edges, expecialy bottom, but i don't seem to find any instruction on removing keyboard on the google, even youtube only has dissasembly for internals. I tried with nails a little and it seems keyboard will eventualy come off by itself lol...
Very dissapointed, anyone else has this, or is this not so common and i should make a waranty request?