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ok, right now I'm using mobile shell and I think it is a nice easy to deal interface for ours mobiles but what I'm loosing vs the pocket plus interface????
I love tho heard some feedbacks about this softweres or any othe best mod.
I know people who hate Mobile Shell for the huge memory it consumes. Not tried personally as Im happy with Wisbar.
Regards,
Carty..
yellowbird rs said:
ok, right now I'm using mobile shell and I think it is a nice easy to deal interface for ours mobiles but what I'm loosing vs the pocket plus interface????
I love tho heard some feedbacks about this softweres or any othe best mod.
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I tried Mobile Shell and Pocket Plus. Like Pocket Plus better as I can get much more on my screen. However, I do have Diary, too. So, it is a matter of choice. I have reviewed a lot of Apps. and constantly add, try and remove/replace.
For the various SPB Apps:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/installer.php?en
How is the kaiser compared with the HTC Touch Diamond???
SuperMiguel said:
How is the kaiser compared with the HTC Touch Diamond???
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Isn't the Kaiser more of a do-it-all and the Touch Diamond more of a show piece?
Silly comparison. They're both slow if you look the GLBenchmarks compared to most Nokias, iPhones, and SonyEricssons.
HTC+Qualcomm == dredging the bottom of the barrel.
NuShrike said:
Silly comparison. They're both slow if you look the GLBenchmarks compared to most Nokias, iPhones, and SonyEricssons.
HTC+Qualcomm == dredging the bottom of the barrel.
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GLbenchmarks mean nothing if you use your phone for a true multidevice. Lets see Iphone let me use it as a cellular modem, give me full customization of its OS, VNC/SSH into my servers, remotely administer my clients networks via VPN access, ...... this list can go on forever. Bottom of the barrel you say???? Hrmmmmmm.
As far as Slow goes.......... dual cores handling the OS and radio systems isnt what i consider slow...............
Lets keep on topic.
Kaiser = Power User phone. Diamond is a beautiful stand in with a bit less functionality.
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As far as Slow goes.......... dual cores handling the OS and radio systems isnt what i consider slow...............
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Dual Core sounds nice BUT, all phones have 2 chips, 1 to wake the other, and in Kaiser 1 is used solely to process call information, and if you look at the actual UI speed... not what I call Fast. Doesn't matter how many processors power Kaiser, it's slow as it stands now.
Cool Comparison:
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/compare_advresults.php?phones[]=2268&phones[]=2876
pyraxiate said:
GLbenchmarks mean nothing if you use your phone for a true multidevice. Lets see Iphone let me use it as a cellular modem, give me full customization of its OS, VNC/SSH into my servers, remotely administer my clients networks via VPN access, ...... this list can go on forever. Bottom of the barrel you say???? Hrmmmmmm.
As far as Slow goes.......... dual cores handling the OS and radio systems isnt what i consider slow...............
Lets keep on topic.
Kaiser = Power User phone. Diamond is a beautiful stand in with a bit less functionality.
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Hi:
Why do you say it has less functionality? I'm not contradicting you, I am really asking, because I thought the Diamond would have the same capabilities as the Kaiser. After hearing the rumors that AT&T will get the Touch Pro, I was so excited to get one, but now I'm worried it may not be as functional as the Tilt.
Along the same lines, I was wondering, does the VGA screen pose a problem? What I mean is as far as compatibility with most games, programs etc?
Thanks!
SuperMiguel said:
How is the kaiser compared with the HTC Touch Diamond???
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Not trying to be mean, but I think it's a silly comparison...
A more logical comparison would be Kaiser vs Touch Pro...
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Along the same lines, I was wondering, does the VGA screen pose a problem? What I mean is as far as compatibility with most games, programs etc?
Thanks!
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it does with several games /emus but very few (if any) apps
cincy1020 said:
Hi:
Why do you say it has less functionality? I'm not contradicting you, I am really asking, because I thought the Diamond would have the same capabilities as the Kaiser. After hearing the rumors that AT&T will get the Touch Pro, I was so excited to get one, but now I'm worried it may not be as functional as the Tilt.
Along the same lines, I was wondering, does the VGA screen pose a problem? What I mean is as far as compatibility with most games, programs etc?
Thanks!
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flash memory / expandability (card slot)? QWERTY? in these, the Kaiser is way better
I suppose it's pretty individual issue. Diamond has faster CPU, VGA screen, sexy interface with 4Gb internal memory without expansion slot, so as a result this is rather alternative to iPhone with limited advantage of using loads of free or hacked WM software limited by those 4Gb only.
Keiser is solid QWERTY-featured 100% WM device with all its outcome. For instance I had been using HTC Blue Angel (wich is actually direct ancestor of Keiser) for 4 years and done to it almost everything except direct sexual intercourse.
The choice of XDA veteran.
rudeboye said:
Cool Comparison:
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/compare_advresults.php?phones[]=2268&phones[]=2876
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I don't get this comparison, the battery capacity decreased, yet the talk time has increased for diamond...
tak.japan said:
I don't get this comparison, the battery capacity decreased, yet the talk time has increased for diamond...
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Does the Diamond have Drivers? Maybe its because the CPU isnt getting its ass beat by drawing the screen all day long.
Could be another benefit to getting working drivers on the kaiser.
just a thought.
Toshiba G810 better even they are using MSM7200 400Mhz which is same as TYTN 2.
Look at the video , the drawing speed is much much smoother and faster than our TYTN2 .... HTC , you really need to DO SOMETHING.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAyJ7_f3rS0&feature=related
Is anyone trying to port the driver from G810 to tytn2 ?
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Is anyone trying to port the driver from G810 to tytn2 ?
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Anybody got a rom dump of the 810 then?
g810
Once I get a g810 I will rom dump both to cook my own and will pass it around for the drivers, if this is still needed... let me know.
fhteagle said:
Once I get a g810 I will rom dump both to cook my own and will pass it around for the drivers, if this is still needed... let me know.
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Any news on you g810? Would be great if you can dump the rom.
Ok, ... here we go...
After several years wasting my time trying to modify, tuneup, accellerate, reorganize, customize and personalize my windows mobile devices (Xda Neo, Xda Orbit, Xda Terra) it is time to say goodbye to my one month old Xda Diamond...
It doesnt seem that microsoft will ever accept that their windows mobile is, ... just a windows 1.0 with better optics. no todayscreen replacement, tf3d, tf2d, spb ms, winterface, tochcommander has made things easier, just harder, slower and even more useless.
I thought, wow, as i heard about the new HTC Touch Diamond, waited 1 month for delivery and there it was, my Diamond, wonderful tf3d, opera, gsensor,...
Slow keyboard, Windows Mobile 6.1 (no OS), slow TF3d, slow Email, hard to use interface, and last but not least a (WOW) 900mAh battery, ... that enables me to use my Diamond ONE day! WOW again, and thank you HTC.
A main desire of human being is to cutomize, to PERSONALIZE their phone, to make it YOUR phone! When you look at a diamond you'll see the light breaking into many colors , ... when you look at your diamond you'll see BLACK and WHITE. Customizable STARTSCREEN, wooooooooho with a colorful background wallpaper, thats all.
I was expecting a wonderful , powerful multimedia mobile phone, great gaming capabilities like the iphone or something, ... but, whats there? WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER MOBILE, and OPERA, thats all... a slow camera, a slow HTC Album, a useless Streaming Media Client, MOSTLY unsupported games for NATIVE VGA resolution...
Good bye Diamond,
Good bye HTC,
Good bye Microsoft Windows Mobile 5,6,6.1,
Good bye TF3D,
Good bye NO great games,
Good bye XDA Developers Forum << you should be proud of yourselves, because it is YOU who are trying to improve these devices, ... and god damn, ... its hard work!
Thanks for all your tipps and tricks and Diamond Project 3.2 and Bepe 0.99d!
**************** AND HELLO NOKIA E71 ****************
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I have to wonder why you even considered a diamond tbh..
you should get an iPhone
Nokia 1911 >>>> all
Surely you cant customise an E71 as much as a WM Device anyway?
I had an E71 for a while for work......My only comment on the device is "thank god i have a HTC Device!"
Are there people who hate the tf3d interface who don't realise that you can turn it off and then customise the homescreen on the device more than pretty much any other OS ?
thanks for your replies, ... dont forget please, i'm just sharing my thoughts in non-perfect english. I dont except that everyone thinks what i think.
and hey, its a gameboy too, whith hardware buttons and a dpad but has perfect professional business solutions that i need.
Rotkaeqpchen said:
.....A main desire of human being is to cutomize, to PERSONALIZE their phone, to make it YOUR phone! When you look at a diamond you'll see the light breaking into many colors , ... when you look at your diamond you'll see BLACK and WHITE. Customizable STARTSCREEN, wooooooooho with a colorful background wallpaper, thats all.
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Really?? You mean my phone shipped with a Hellboy theme that changes all the icons, puts really cool flames all over the clock, superimposes flames over my contacts pictures.... that came with my phone? I really don't think you've looked into this properly.
That said, these phones are for people who are prepared to invest time and effort into them to reap the rewards. It sounds like you have had enough of doing this, which is fine - i'm sure we will all give up one day
Monty Burns said:
It sounds like you have had enough of doing this, which is fine - i'm sure we will all give up one day
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You're absolutely right
goodbye
hope you enjoy your E71...
danielch said:
you should get an iPhone
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I dont like the iphone,i like hardware quertz / querty keyboards
ryousuke said:
goodbye
hope you enjoy your E71...
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thanks im curious too.
rotkapqchen
nokia is living of people wich are thinking like redhat. but they will be lost in futur
Rotkaeqpchen said:
Ok, ... here we go...
After several years wasting my time trying to modify, tuneup, accellerate, reorganize, customize and personalize my windows mobile devices (Xda Neo, Xda Orbit, Xda Terra) it is time to say goodbye to my one month old Xda Diamond...
It doesnt seem that microsoft will ever accept that their windows mobile is, ... just a windows 1.0 with better optics. no todayscreen replacement, tf3d, tf2d, spb ms, winterface, tochcommander has made things easier, just harder, slower and even more useless.
I thought, wow, as i heard about the new HTC Touch Diamond, waited 1 month for delivery and there it was, my Diamond, wonderful tf3d, opera, gsensor,...
Slow keyboard, Windows Mobile 6.1 (no OS), slow TF3d, slow Email, hard to use interface, and last but not least a (WOW) 900mAh battery, ... that enables me to use my Diamond ONE day! WOW again, and thank you HTC.
A main desire of human being is to cutomize, to PERSONALIZE their phone, to make it YOUR phone! When you look at a diamond you'll see the light breaking into many colors , ... when you look at your diamond you'll see BLACK and WHITE. Customizable STARTSCREEN, wooooooooho with a colorful background wallpaper, thats all.
I was expecting a wonderful , powerful multimedia mobile phone, great gaming capabilities like the iphone or something, ... but, whats there? WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER MOBILE, and OPERA, thats all... a slow camera, a slow HTC Album, a useless Streaming Media Client, MOSTLY unsupported games for NATIVE VGA resolution...
Good bye Diamond,
Good bye HTC,
Good bye Microsoft Windows Mobile 5,6,6.1,
Good bye TF3D,
Good bye NO great games,
Good bye XDA Developers Forum << you should be proud of yourselves, because it is YOU who are trying to improve these devices, ... and god damn, ... its hard work!
Thanks for all your tipps and tricks and Diamond Project 3.2 and Bepe 0.99d!
**************** AND HELLO NOKIA E71 ****************
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Believe me you wont be missed. Have fun with your mmm... super customizable mmm Nokia???
Rotkaeqpchen said:
I dont like the iphone,i like hardware quertz / querty keyboards.
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i dont know why you get diamond if you like qwerty keyboards in the first place ???
my messegae in the upcming weeks would be: ***bye bye my little Diamond - Hello Touch HD***
well well. Nokia is great for phone. HTC = phone = ****. HTC for customize. I like it. Some kind of killing my time to upgrade, check website, upgrade and upgrade until the time I said. I have a life now. Than I'm going to say goodbye HTC.
Again
HTC = phone = **** ( sorry to say that )
HTC = killing my boring time = yes
Hey, It's the same thing I said when I ditched my ROKR E2 and bought an a1200, but then again... I found motorlafans, and couldn't help it... it's too good to be left alone.
Then it came to me that I REALLY needed some good phone for office business (which the A1200 performed well, but lacked wifi and 3G... and syncing was a hassle). When the iPhone came out, I said «nice, pretty... but it doesn't fit my philosophy...» which is customization... not only for themes and etc. but for speed, performance and suiting needs.
I saw the first iPhone killers and said, no way. But then the Diamond appeared: small, nice, useful... then I started researching the Touch (the first one) and discovered this site...
Seeing all the possibilities, I said: What the hell! Let's roll with HTC, the mother and father of 80% of OEM handsets that took a leap and started selling their own stuff, and with great design and TRUE innovation.
BUT, the Touch wouldn't be up to the cut: too much third party apps to make it run like I THOUGHT it should...
XPERIA made its teaser trailers, and I went numb... but it was a promise of long delays, Sony branding and a lot of zeroes on the pricetag.
The Diamond turned into a bliss... beyond all the iPhone wannabes, beyond usability paradigms, I remember thinking «WOW, that's a smart way of arranging a Home Screen, without clutter, with access to all the basics upfront, just like a superphone with a Clark Kent/Superman switch... (in reference to the TouchFlo3D taking all the basics to a new level and letting the powerhorse to sit in the back and enjoy the ride)».
Whence I've got it, I found that the TF3D needed some tweaking. I thought what I always think in such ocations: THIS CAN BE BETTER, SO WHY CAN'T HTC RELEASE IT ALREADY TWEAKED???
But then again, I'm now swapping for a US version, and the rollercoaster will start again... I'm positive that the same tweaked roms can be used with the same efficiency...
Time will tell. . .
boolean22 said:
Whence I've got it, I found that the TF3D needed some tweaking. I thought what I always think in such ocations: THIS CAN BE BETTER, SO WHY CAN'T HTC RELEASE IT ALREADY TWEAKED???
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now i have to agree on this one, HTC should tweaked some of windows registry before releasing it. for example, didnt they try the device when you try to reply an sms??? you could barely read your own message with that ONE line reply window
average consumer dont know what to do with this kind of problem, all they have in their mind is ''What the hell is this???''
heck we even need an unknown 3rd party app to adjust this small problem.
HTC please TEST your device before releasing it
It might be just mine, cause I use the fonts just one point above the minimum... but mine's got 2 lines... it's easier and the high res screen does a great job rendering minuscule fonts...
unwired4 said:
Are there people who hate the tf3d interface who don't realise that you can turn it off and then customise the homescreen on the device more than pretty much any other OS ?
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I guess so.. All the tf3d is a today plugin with some bells and whistles.
This device is really nice and fast when you diable that.
Rotkaeqpchen said:
Good bye NO great games,
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and how does the e71 help there? I believe the e71 is even less customizable and has even less games available for it.
Best iPhone Clone Program For Windows Mobile Phones
as seen here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PooqL1WkHmo
I am the one who created the iPhone theme version 6, 3 years back, it was a great success but there were issues with the fact that it did not work with wm6 and also there were newer versions of wisbar released, which made me create this new theme, in this time i sold my old o2 XDA IIi and now have an N97 but i am seriously disappointed with it. So i download the wm6 SDK and created the new theme on it, the new wisbar allowed me to create same transition effects as that on iPhone.
I am soon going to post the theme on my website http://appleiphone.110mb.com/
and my blog
http://aleksander100.blogspot.com/
Stay tunned and hope you all like the theme.
looks like there is no more point developing.
I am just offering some feed back. I am not try to bash or discourage or upset. There is already a very good iPhone clone that is currently actively being developed. I think it would be pretty hard to beat. So I just wanted to give you a heads up. You can check it out here if you want to...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633618
Honestly I don't think it's bad, but I don't understand why you'd want to emulate an iPhone on a WM device. Get an iPhone instead.
who r u alexander? a white kid living in India? confused...
Fedr0 said:
Honestly I don't think it's bad, but I don't understand why you'd want to emulate an iPhone on a WM device. Get an iPhone instead.
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I can think of a couple of reasons.
1. "Sense" as a UI is a total resource hog. When I was using it as my today plug in I would boot at like 70% and be up to 80% after a couple of hours. When I boot up with iPhoneToday as my today plug in I boot at 50%. Makes quite a difference in the speed at which my phone responds.
2. Using sense I push a button to to go to my start menu. Then I push a button to go to my settings. Then I push a button to go to my Comm Manager. Then I push a button to Turn on my Wifi. Using iPhoneToday I push my Wifi button and I am done.
3. How about this one. When I was running the stock Verizon Rom with "Sense" I had 100mb free for storage and 60mb free for memory. When the HSPL came out for my phone (the Imagio) and I was able to get a cooked Rom with Titanium only (no Sense) I now have 210mb of free storage and 90mb of free memory.
So- there are a couple of reason. I could list more. But people that hate the iPhone wouldn't care what I say. It won't matter to them bc they have predetermined that anything that starts with a little "i" is the enemy.
^Depends on what phone you have.
Srsly why not get an iphone? emulating iphone on a winmo device is just ridiculous. :\
I <3 my x1 winmo device, the sense ui is a defnite bonus. ♥
maisonpulaski said:
1. "Sense" as a UI is a total resource hog. When I was using it as my today plug in I would boot at like 70% and be up to 80% after a couple of hours. When I boot up with iPhoneToday as my today plug in I boot at 50%. Makes quite a difference in the speed at which my phone responds.
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I'd really like to see the differences in eye candy and animations level.
maisonpulaski said:
2. Using sense I push a button to to go to my start menu. Then I push a button to go to my settings. Then I push a button to go to my Comm Manager. Then I push a button to Turn on my Wifi. Using iPhoneToday I push my Wifi button and I am done.
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Check this.
maisonpulaski said:
3. How about this one. When I was running the stock Verizon Rom with "Sense" I had 100mb free for storage and 60mb free for memory. When the HSPL came out for my phone (the Imagio) and I was able to get a cooked Rom with Titanium only (no Sense) I now have 210mb of free storage and 90mb of free memory.
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And? Couldn't you use a memory card to store your data? Do you need to run any complex 3D simulation programs on your smartphone?
maisonpulaski said:
But people that hate the iPhone wouldn't care what I say.
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I don't hate it at all. I simply find it really limiting to my needs. Heck, I made my wife take one on subscription, considering her computer is an iMac and that she has not all my needs on a phone (a work companion).
Said that, I still think that if you really want an iPhone, just buy (or subscribe) one. You'd be happier than with a clone.
Honestly I hate that WinMo users try to convert their devices to Iphones...
And that mere statement is a PRO about WinMo: It is soo versatile, that you can simulate any UI you want, from Iphone to Android...that´s something you can´t do in an Iphone...
There´s a lot of beautiful UI´s for WinMo: TF2D, TF3D, RLToday, SPShell, Bell UI, Point UI, Titanium, etc, etc, etc...
Anyway, if you need/want an UI similar to Iphone´s, have you ever try Vito Winterface? I´ve seen an Iphone skin around xda...
Regards
few things i dint mention--
the theme supports landscape,
at&t brings out start menu
and the theme doesn't look smooth as hypercam dint record it well.
The wallpaper can be set by the user as per his/her desire.
More icons in development and vga version is also in making.
aleksander100 said:
few things i dint mention--
the theme supports landscape,
at&t brings out start menu
and the theme doesn't look smooth as hypercam dint record it well.
The wallpaper can be set by the user as per his/her desire.
More icons in development and vga version is also in making.
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Please make it compatible with WVGA. Thanks.
will surely do so
jonbus said:
Honestly I hate that WinMo users try to convert their devices to Iphones...
And that mere statement is a PRO about WinMo: It is soo versatile, that you can simulate any UI you want, from Iphone to Android...that´s something you can´t do in an Iphone...
There´s a lot of beautiful UI´s for WinMo: TF2D, TF3D, RLToday, SPShell, Bell UI, Point UI, Titanium, etc, etc, etc...
Anyway, if you need/want an UI similar to Iphone´s, have you ever try Vito Winterface? I´ve seen an Iphone skin around xda...
Regards
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So why don't have best of all on WinMo? Some people need lifestyle, some need usability. I need usability, all informations on 1 screen (and not 1/3 of screen just for a clock like in Manilla), speed (most used apps in RAM) & stableness.
For MY needs most UI's are too heavy loaded or uses too much resources or can't be configured a easy as IPT (also it's better than the original on iPhone, )!
No one talks about S2U2, which is also a clone and also better than the original!
Never heard an iPhone user saying that Apple "converted" apps from WinMo!!! They just use it and don't discuss!
BTW iPhone is more stable than WinMo because you can't do everything!
I've been using IPT for months now and I love it because it's simple, gives me what I am looking for quickly, easy to use/configure, and fast. I hate - HATE!!!! - the WM6.5 default look. Sense sucks too as far as I'm concerned. I'm not hell bent on having an iphone clone, but I would just like a screen with all the info right there, and not tabs to scroll through. I'd switch to something else if it was better, but I have yet to find it.
Some of you guys may have had a Windows Mobile phone before. And you should then propably know about SPB Mobile Shell, a very fast good looking launcher. And it's coming for Android. So sign up for the beta now.
http://spb.com/beta
And a little video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROca7ao-Tqw&feature=player_embedded#!
Cool, but
1. This must be a battery killer.
2. I doubt that it will be available on Wildfire. Or it will lag like hell.
Alex_GP said:
Cool, but
1. This must be a battery killer.
2. I doubt that it will be available on Wildfire. Or it will lag like hell.
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1. I think it won't be a battery killer, cause it will be a home screen application, like the others .... i used it when i had my HTC Kaiser ... and this was very cool, usefull app
2. SPB ran very well on Windows Mobile ... on "oldschool" phones too ... so i think wildfire will be enough
Have smooth when run on Wildfire?
Hope this works on wildfire...
pazirez said:
1. I think it won't be a battery killer, cause it will be a home screen application, like the others .... i used it when i had my HTC Kaiser ... and this was very cool, usefull app
2. SPB ran very well on Windows Mobile ... on "oldschool" phones too ... so i think wildfire will be enough
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I had SPB on my old HTC Magician, but the 3d stuff lagged sometimes.
2. Maybe But we can`t play Raging Thunder on the Wildfire, but I can play the WM version on a 400Mhz processor with smooth 40fps.
Don`t get me wrong, I want this to work well on all devices.