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Hi,
Just a quick one and looking for opinions.
Yesterday I managed to pickup a diamond from a shop. I was told it was direct purchase i.e. not sim locked to any provider. So I paid going retail price at 750 canadian for it. Get it home to discover the $#$#$ thing is linked to airtel and sim locked. I managed to get the network unlock code and it can now use my own sim card.
If I hard spl it I figure there should be no difference at this point between mine and the HTC released version.
Does anyone see any other reasons I should return this for a proper version that I requested.
Would you let it go and continue as above or return to the shop and rip the $#$#$ a new one.
I have to return home in a few days and need to make up my mind.
Thanks!
Well.. depends if you're a principals kind of guy. However, if unlocking it was a breeze and didn't cost u any real agony, why get yourself all worked up over it... Maybe you should send an e-mail to their headquarters if it's a big storechain...
Yes, I know what you mean. Perhaps what I meant to directly ask others if they see any technical reason this phone would now be any different then a standard unlocked version direct from HTC. I used a network unlock code from a specific website to do this.
If anyone sees a reason to be worked up ... i.e. the minute I flash a new ROM onto this it may not work because some providers ID is in there, then yes I will go back. But, if network unlocking provides the same benefit as just having a direct unlocked model then I dont really care and will just give him my email feedback.
thanks
Seeing as you paid Canadian dollars for it, I assume you are in Canada? If so, you might want to return it or at least keep the option open for the next week or so. It's looking like the official Canadian release version from Telus is going to have an extended battery and possibly more RAM. The word floating around is that it will be available first week or so of August.
Anyone any idea when this phone will be available in Europe? Belgium/Netherlands/France/Germany for example. The UK is a bit too far away from Belgium to go out and buy one
I've got someone I know in the US, but should order it in a few days if I want him to bring it along.
This is purely speculation but it probably will be available globally in one sense or another at some point i.e. if google don't sell it to all countries themselves they'll probably end up letting it be sold handset only by numerous online stores. However, when they may open this up is purely up to them.
Any idea about warranty, let's say for example if I get mine from the US, and within a few months something is broken/not working. In the meanwhile, probably the nexus one would probably be available around here in Europe. Will there be support worldwide, no matter where I would buy it? Or would I need to go or send it to a US service point?
bazzix said:
Any idea about warranty, let's say for example if I get mine from the US, and within a few months something is broken/not working. In the meanwhile, probably the nexus one would probably be available around here in Europe. Will there be support worldwide, no matter where I would buy it? Or would I need to go or send it to a US service point?
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I don't think anyone can really answer that here for sure, but if they are truly selling the same exact phone worldwide in the future, there's no reason to believe they wouldn't be able to support it worldwide...
You could simply tell them that you recently moved to your country from the US, it would be quite bad in terms of customer service for them not to assist you in that case
Hi, does anyone know when the hd7 will be available to buy sim free in the UK? I got my hd2 from expansys last November and now I really want the hd7! I know I could get it on o2 and unlock it but I'm not so keen on that.
Thanks
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levy9 said:
Hi, does anyone know when the hd7 will be available to buy sim free in the UK? I got my hd2 from expansys last November and now I really want the hd7! I know I could get it on o2 and unlock it but I'm not so keen on that.
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No I dont think so, its exclusively available to O2 in the UK, Expansys dont show it as being available sim free either.
Strange decision to alienate potential new wp7 customers by restricting where and how you can get a hd7! Surely to make a new OS work make the flagship handset available to everyone!
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German O2 HD7 is afaik Lock free. Perhaps you can import it from there.
The real issue is that not only HD7, but there is not any WP7 SIM free handset available. I really don't like these slavery and expensive 2 years contracts, or full of bloatware locked PAYG devices. So I'm looking only for SIM free but no avail. I don’t mind the O2 “exclusivity” because prefer Omnia 7 than HD7. Unfortunately the only info for expected stock availability, which I’ve found, is for the end of Nov!
As far as I know the HD7 will not be available sim free until the exclusivity deal ends with O2, date not known for this.
Out of interest, I got the following deal from O2 last week by phoning retentions dept after being a contract customer with them for many years:
Simplicity 12 month @ £15 per month
included 300 anytime minutes, unlimited texts, 500mb data
Handset cost £330
For me this was a good deal and probably the cheapest method of getting a HD7 right now.
Hope this helps.
I'm not sure what M$ plan is. They copied Android and just flooded the market with too many phones. There is no flagship device, which is what boggles me the most.
I wouldnt be surprised if they come out with a Zune phone. From what I've heard the Zune HD was a solid piece of hardware; I don't see why they cant make a phone.
They may just be waiting for some of the kinks to be worked out of windows phone 7 and launch it when the OS really has some legs under it.
It's a joke all I want to do is spend my cash on the phone of my choice! I've been a fan of HTC Windows phones for years I choose to use a Vodafone 12 month sim only contract to get the best value, surely this is gonna piss people off!
Went to my local o2 store today and had a mess around with one, really impressed and they had 2 payg in stock soooo tempted! The only thing is it looks like people are having problems unlocking them and it voids the warranty which could be a real issue with a new phone.
Really don't know why they would want to stop people buying it sim free?!
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I'm not sure what M$ plan is. They copied Android and just flooded the market with too many phones. There is no flagship device, which is what boggles me the most.
I wouldnt be surprised if they come out with a Zune phone. From what I've heard the Zune HD was a solid piece of hardware; I don't see why they cant make a phone.
They may just be waiting for some of the kinks to be worked out of windows phone 7 and launch it when the OS really has some legs under it.
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To you this may sound bad, to other non geeky people (ie the type of people who wouldn't be on here) it's excellent.
I've lost count of the amount of people I know who have bought a HTC Desire just because they want a HTC and have no idea what Android is. "Fanboys" can be a great asset, apple has shown that and there are a load of HTC, Samsung fanboys around atm. People will buy phones like the HD7 just because it's made by HTC and has a nice big screen, not because it has windows phone, that's just a bonus or they may not even be aware of what windows phone 7 is.
I've ordered it at Expansys Belgium, maybe you could buy it there as it wouldn't take too long to ship.
I've had a good look on other sites selling the hd7 and I'm a bit uneasy about doing that, so I'm going to my local o2 store to buy one today and unlock it. 2 questions though:
Is it only online purchased hd7s that are struggling to be unlocked? I live in a small town and there are 2 payg in stock chances are they are from the first batch so might still unlock?
When I do unlock it will I still be able to receive official updates from Microsoft or will unlocking it void my phone?
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levy9 said:
I've had a good look on other sites selling the hd7 and I'm a bit uneasy about doing that, so I'm going to my local o2 store to buy one today and unlock it. 2 questions though:
Is it only online purchased hd7s that are struggling to be unlocked? I live in a small town and there are 2 payg in stock chances are they are from the first batch so might still unlock?
When I do unlock it will I still be able to receive official updates from Microsoft or will unlocking it void my phone?
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If its one of the earlier phones you should stand a good chance of unlocking it. Unlocking will not stop you from getting Microsoft updates.
Thanks for that, off up town now
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I, also have no understanding why there is no option to have the device via a operator or to buy off line, why would I want to buy from o2?
ekksman said:
I, also have no understanding why there is no option to have the device via a operator or to buy off line, why would I want to buy from o2?
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Because in the UK it's exclusive to o2?
O2 probably paid for the exclusivity buy commeitting to xxx number of units, if your carrier hasn't got it, then complain to them for not giving the OEMs the cash. From some of the reports out their it looks like the industry wasn't backing this new OS and have been caught out by the demand.
I brought mine on PAYG on day 1 from O2 at £389 (uk pounds), sim free I think it will sell for at least £499 to £539). So O2 got exclusivity AND was able to knock a few pounds off for it's customers.
Got my unlock code from O2 over the weekend free of charge, will try it out tomorrow
I also bought mine for £389, on launch day (£379 + required £10 top up). I haven't even bothered taking the o2 sim out of its packaging.
Straight away I used a giffgaff sim that I had ordered (see giffgaff.com). I pay £10 a month for:
150 minutes,
unlimited texts,
unlimited data (with no fair use policy or cap),
No fixed term contract (I can walk away anytime, not that I'd want to at that price).
You can pay more for more minutes if needed.
The reason I can do this is because giffgaff are owned by Telefonica (who own o2) and runs on o2's network (much like how Tesco Mobile operates). Because of this I haven't needed to unlock my HD7.
Just last night I downloaded a game demo that claimed to be 81MB. I couldn't do that every night on pretty much any other operator as they have data caps.
Buying the phone on PAYG and using giffgaff is way cheaper than the £40x24month deal that o2 would like to lock you in to. I don't understand why more people don't do it this way.
The cheeky bit - if you'd like to sign up for giffgaff, send me a pm so I can get giffgaff to send you the sim. This way, we both get £5 free credit! I don't mean for this to be a spammy post, so sorry if it comes across that way. I just think this is a good alternative to getting the HD7 sim-free or unlocking it, and probably the cheapest way overall.
So maybe I'm the only one in the world with an HD7 that can't be unlocked.
I bought one on Kijiji new in the box. I'm in Toronto and planned to use it on Wind Mobile. I read of others enjoying their unlocked T-Mobile HD7's. So I bought mine today, sold my old phone the same day and found out that my phone cannot be unlocked.
I have tried 4 different websites for unlocking and all failed. I called HTC and they said to speak to the carrier. The carrier said to get a plan with them and in 40 days I can have the code. Doesn't make much sense being that I don't live in the U.S. or within hours of their service areas.
Finally the sales person says to fax them a receipt and they can provide the code in 24 hours or 2 weeks if they don't have it in their database and have to retrieve it from HTC. I doubt I can get a receipt from the seller and I feel like I just spent $500 on a paper weight.
Anyone have any suggestions??
EDIT: mobileincanada.com surprisingly sent me an email last night saying they updated their database and if I re-ordered they could probably have the code for me in a few min. So I took another shot and they actually had one. I guess it could an updated database to solve the problem!!
pistol44 said:
So maybe I'm the only one in the world with an HD7 that can't be unlocked.
I bought one on Kijiji new in the box. I'm in Toronto and planned to use it on Wind Mobile. I read of others enjoying their unlocked T-Mobile HD7's. So I bought mine today, sold my old phone the same day and found out that my phone cannot be unlocked.
I have tried 4 different websites for unlocking and all failed. I called HTC and they said to speak to the carrier. The carrier said to get a plan with them and in 40 days I can have the code. Doesn't make much sense being that I don't live in the U.S. or within hours of their service areas.
Finally the sales person says to fax them a receipt and they can provide the code in 24 hours or 2 weeks if they don't have it in their database and have to retrieve it from HTC. I doubt I can get a receipt from the seller and I feel like I just spent $500 on a paper weight.
Anyone have any suggestions??
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Sorry:
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/microsoft-discusses-homebrew-app-support-for-windows-phone-7
you need to get someone that have t-mobile account to do it for you
Hey go on tmobile's website and go to the online chat help section and talk to someone there and just be kind and tell them the truth. I found that they are really helpful. Just tell the person u bought it from a tmobile store (dont say kiji) and that ur in canada and are not a tmobile customer. They'll understand. Im in canada and was thinking of doin what u did and buying one and then unlocking it so to be safe i talked to a tmobile rep b4 buying anythin and she was really understanding and told me she would unlock it for me after i purchased it( not sure if they wouldve kept their word since i havent bought mine yet)...
as long as you bought it at full retail, they should give you the unlock code. The 40 days only applies if you got it at a discount as a new line of service.
I was in the same situation, tried over 10 websites and none of them had the unlock code in their database. Luckly I was able to get the receipt from the seller and got T-Mobile to unlock the phone. Took T-Mobile less than 24 hrs to send me the code. Like the other poster said, try the T-Mobile online chat, they are very helpful.
Thats crazy.. was planning on picking up an HD7 to use on Wind soon in Toronto. Would be brutal if it can't be unlocked.
Did any of you guys who had problems try mobileincanada.com for the unlock code?
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Thats crazy.. was planning on picking up an HD7 to use on Wind soon in Toronto. Would be brutal if it can't be unlocked.
Did any of you guys who had problems try mobileincanada.com for the unlock code?
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Yup tried mobileincanada.com, didn't work and got a refund.
Most of the sites claimed they should be able to unlock the phone in a few weeks when their databases are updated.
edit: What you could also do is bring a laptop with you when you buy the phone and check if the phone is unlockable here http://www.htcimeiunlock.com/check-imei.php
^man that really sucks.. you had tried 10 different sites? Also thanks for the tip on htcimeiunlock site.
So T-mobile was pretty helpful about the situation as long as you had the original receipt? good to know.. worse case i'll just go for a quick drive and pick one up.
I tried all the sites you all listed here and NONE of them worked. I even found some other site called UNLOCKINGONLINE.COM. They say claim to have access to some newer databases and recommend using a certain unlock option if you're phone is an HTC device manufactured after March or May 2010 I think it said. But it's a premium rate of $39.99 which of course they say they will refund if unsucessful.
Well I tried them as my last resort and guess what? I've had no response from them since last night and they promise a 5-30 min turnaround time on 99% of all unlocks.
So now I'm worrying about the 4 or 5 refunds I'm expecting for all the various unlocking sites I tried AND they guy I bought my HD7 from has decided to no longer respond to my messages. Maybe he knew I couldn't unlock it before hand and took my money and ran.
I guess my last option is the online chat with T-Mobile a few of you have suggested. Otherwise I'm just going to sell it and let someone else figure out how to unlock it.
I tried the online T-Mobile chat and they said unless I bought it right from T-Mobile and have a receipt they will not unlock it for me.
Can anyone offer some advice on either what I can say to them or perhaps if one of you are an existing T-Mobile client you could offer me some assitance??
I'd hate to have to get rid of it now
Hopefully with some time these databases for unlocking will get updated?
I'm close to buying one off something through kijiji in toronto as well.. he just dropped the prices recently, really hope its not the case where the phone cannot be unlocked. Considering I only see one guy selling in toronto I don't think I should take the chance.
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Hopefully with some time these databases for unlocking will get updated?
I'm close to buying one off something through kijiji in toronto as well.. he just dropped the prices recently, really hope its not the case where the phone cannot be unlocked. Considering I only see one guy selling in toronto I don't think I should take the chance.
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Just a heads up the only guy on Kijiji is the guy I bought mine from yesterday. He got back to me now and says he doesn't have retail receipts as he buys from a wholesaler. He says he'll see if there is anything he can do for me.
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Here's for anyone else having Sim unlocking problems but can actually get the sales receipt. I just got this in my email:
Unlock Code: Waiting For FAX - MSRP
Thank you for taking the time to contact T-Mobile. At this time, we will need a copy of the original sales receipt to be faxed into the SIM Unlock Team showing full retail purchase price was paid for the equipment. The fax number is 813-353-6557. Your request will be placed in pending status for 7 business days to allow time for processing. Please include the following information with the fax.
" ATTN: SIM Unlock Team
" Remedy Form#
" Customer's Full Name
" Contact number
" Customer's Email Address (optional)
" Copy of the original sales receipt showing the Full Retail Purchase Price of the handset.
Thank You,
Sim Unlock Department
T-Mobile USA, Inc.
pistol44 said:
Just a heads up the only guy on Kijiji is the guy I bought mine from yesterday. He got back to me now and says he doesn't have retail receipts as he buys from a wholesaler. He says he'll see if there is anything he can do for me.
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Yup, was talking to him as well, and he mentioned someone bought one and is unable to unlock it. Really sucks, wanted to grab this phone, but going to wait I guess if there's really an unlocking issue right now.
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Yup, was talking to him as well, and he mentioned someone bought one and is unable to unlock it. Really sucks, wanted to grab this phone, but going to wait I guess if there's really an unlocking issue right now.
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Well I would still buy one IF you weren't in a rush to set it up and didn't mind possibly waiting for a couple weeks for the code. Just don't do what I did and get rid of your current phone with expectations the new one will be up and running in minutes..
If the Kijiji guy did buy in bulk, maybe you can ask him to use http://www.htcimeiunlock.com/check-imei.php to check if the rest of his phones are unlockable and if it is try asking for an exchange.
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Well I would still buy one IF you weren't in a rush to set it up and didn't mind possibly waiting for a couple weeks for the code. Just don't do what I did and get rid of your current phone with expectations the new one will be up and running in minutes..
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Yeah thats still not a bad idea. It's for a secondary line I have on Wind and currently just using it with a cheap phone. Wonder how long the unlock will take though..
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If the Kijiji guy did buy in bulk, maybe you can ask him to use http://www.htcimeiunlock.com/check-imei.php to check if the rest of his phones are unlockable and if it is try asking for an exchange.
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Think he has one left and I asked him about trying that tool but he didn't answer. Sounds like he just found out recently that they're not unlockable right now.
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Think he has one left and I asked him about trying that tool but he didn't answer. Sounds like he just found out recently that they're not unlockable right now.
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Well I should probably mention that after he got back to me today about my issues he did promise to go home tonight to see if the other one he had left was unlockable immediately. And if it was he assured me he would let me switch mine for that one. So perhaps that's why he didn't answer you, not sure.
But once I'm out of options and anyone wants mine (that's willing to wait of course) you're welcome to buy it from it me.
I'm going to try taking a walk around here at lunch for fun and see if any of these guys on Yonge St. can unlock it.
^Thats true, he doesn't have it with him so can't check now. He's been a nice guy though, and that's cool if he can let you swap it if its unlockable.
I just got the phone from wonda, and didnt think to ask for it cealed. but I want to unlock the bootloader. As the phone has been updated, I can't unlock the bootloader and I don't know how to downgrade it, the downgrader tool says no packages yet, and trying to local update to an older firmware says it cant because its older, anyone have any other way of doing this?
Congrats on getting you X Fold.
Not an answer to your question unfortunately, but have a question on your experience with Wonda,
How long from when you ordered till when you received it and approximate location it was shipped to.
I heard that Wonda was quick getting it here and wanted a confirmation of that. I heard that Gizmo, another option to order from takes about 20 days to get to me in Toronto, Canada.
Appreciate your feedback on this.
Also curious why you want bootloader access on your Vivo... any specific plans (maybe something I should also be considering, if I get this phone)?
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Congrats on getting you X Fold.
Not an answer to your question unfortunately, but have a question on your experience with Wonda,
How long from when you ordered till when you received it and approximate location it was shipped to.
I heard that Wonda was quick getting it here and wanted a confirmation of that. I heard that Gizmo, another option to order from takes about 20 days to get to me in Toronto, Canada.
Appreciate your feedback on this.
Also curious why you want bootloader access on your Vivo... any specific plans (maybe something I should also be considering, if I get this phone)?
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Yeah, im in the uk in it took 3 days from ordering to get here. im considering returning tho and ordering a sealed x fold so i can have a chance to unlock the bootloader.
Edit: the reason i want to unnlock the bootloader is because i cannot live without root lmao
Yeah, I have heard by default they are known to open the box and update the software for the customer but you can send them a note when you purchase to leave it in the sealed box. If you do, then you have to deal with a translator to get it going yourself in Chinese until you can get to the language settings, but of course if that means you can get access to the bootloader then I guess it it worth it for you. Its a shame the downgrader tool is not working for you.
Thanks for letting me know how your shipping went, being in Canada, I have heard that Wanda is quick, and three days is amazingly quick to the UK.
Good luck on whatever you decide, from what I have seen in reviews, looks to be an excellent phone that you will enjoy.
I am really interested in it also, but recently found out the VoLTE 4G (voice over LTE) is not working on the phone in Canada from one of the members who is also in Canada with the Vivo X Fold, so I am pausing on this and looking for a solution, if there is one.