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Here are my comments after using diamond for 2 days in HK, previously I'm using Atom Life.
Software installed just like those in diamond:-
spb shell
spb backup
isilo
mobipocket
Cyberon dictionary
Mapking 2007
IM plus
HiCal
SRS WOW(in atom life)
The overall performance is about the same as Atom Life, but when using touch flo 3D will slow down the whole machine so I ignore it and using spb shell, FM radio receive is excellent (just like SE), but the sound playback quality is medium in compare with atom life, cannot install SRS WOW even have the registry modified. Battery life (900mAh) is just fair for normal use, if using HSDPA and have high data exchange (stocks checking), it can just last for 3 hours, lucky the charge up time is also fast.
if anyone who can using SRS WOW, pls post it out.
Cheers
Hi,
How do you rate the battery life in comparison with Atom Life?
I know HSDPA also sucks the Atom Life battery in no time, not even 3 hours in my case!
BTW did you have the official WM6 ROM on your Atom Life, or did you install one of the WM6.1 unofficial ROMs floating around here?
ballbeaaron said:
Here are my comments after using diamond for 2 days in HK, previously I'm using Atom Life.
Software installed just like those in diamond:-
spb shell
spb backup
isilo
mobipocket
Cyberon dictionary
Mapking 2007
IM plus
HiCal
SRS WOW(in atom life)
The overall performance is about the same as Atom Life, but when using touch flo 3D will slow down the whole machine so I ignore it and using spb shell, FM radio receive is excellent (just like SE), but the sound playback quality is medium in compare with atom life, cannot install SRS WOW even have the registry modified. Battery life (900mAh) is just fair for normal use, if using HSDPA and have high data exchange (stocks checking), it can just last for 3 hours, lucky the charge up time is also fast.
if anyone who can using SRS WOW, pls post it out.
Cheers
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You don't need SRS Wow - the Diamond comes with "Audio booster"
spb back-up working?!!!
So the battery is even worse than on the Touch. Damn it, I'll have to wait till Touch Pro comes out :/. I hate HTC for delaying it, you would think that they should fix some problems that haunt Diamond/Touch Pro roms by then, but that probably won't be the case :/
KukurikU said:
spb back-up working?!!!
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Yes, it does... at least looks like it
Hi all
I was just wondering, is the in built graphics chip of the diamon actually taken advantage off by any applications outside of touchflo? for example FPSECE??
Many thanks
Seems to be better with new rom. Palm Heroes does not lag that much as before
ncc74656 said:
Seems to be better with new rom. Palm Heroes does not lag that much as before
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HTC just removed the fly-in/fly-out on the TouchFlo3D interface on the newer 1.93 ROM's....why is this 3d accelerated graphics chip on the diamond not capable of making a smooth fly-in/fly-out? Is it WM6, is it because there are a lot of files involved into TF3D, is it because the chips sucks? Who can tell me...
It doesn't help accelerate TomTom, runs like crap at about 2fps with no POI's enabled, my Tytn 2 ran it at about 6-8fps.
It may be a VGA screen but with a GPU capable of gaming at PSP speed this should not happen, so as with the Tytn 2 the CPU is doing all the work which is very disappointing
The even older Tytn 1 ran TomTom amazingly smoothly why not the Diamond.
Radeon123 said:
The even older Tytn 1 ran TomTom amazingly smoothly why not the Diamond.
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I hope it's because is a newer pda, and its os&drivers needs to be adapted ad hoc, so all we need, is patience.
Just saw this Youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pENEldRxuwQ
and I am amazed at how quick the menus are on the Touch Pro. Why is the Diamond not as quick as this? Does the latest firmware for Diamond make it as quick?
TIA
touch pro has more memory.
Why do you think it is faster than the Diamond ?, I have ROM 193 and it doesn't seem faster at all (and btw, I only have like 20mb of free RAM, kind of shows you how meaningless this whole RAM issue is).
Mine is as fast - no that roms are being fine tuned - using a beta from a cook here i have to say that vid is nothing exciting and my dimaond is wizzing away - i cant make touch flo lag however erratic i use it...
Im sorry to spoil the party but my Diamond is as quick as the one in the Video or maybe even quicker. (all tweaks applied and Cooked ROM)
Im sure the PRO can be even faster after it takes a stroll down to the kitchen!
luck fellassss
so can a similar speed be seen on a diamond with an official firmware or can it only be achieved with a coked firmware? any videos showing the speed of the Diamond UI which is supposedly just as fast? TIA
Im sure the PRO can be even faster after it takes a stroll down to the kitchen!
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Maybe, but I doubt it will ever be faster than the Diamond.
Unlike Desktop PCs (and correct me if I'm wrong), WM doesn't use RAM to cache hard drive information, rather all software 100% works from RAM (after it loads there, that is). So, you could definitely load more software to the Pro's RAM, but each individual software won't run any quicker than on the Diamond.
The Touch Pro's name should really be changed to "Fat Diamond".
I have stock ROM .. and my Diamond is as fast as the one in the video ..
Noam23 said:
Maybe, but I doubt it will ever be faster than the Diamond.
Unlike Desktop PCs (and correct me if I'm wrong), WM doesn't use RAM to cache hard drive information, rather all software 100% works from RAM (after it loads there, that is). So, you could definitely load more software to the Pro's RAM, but each individual software won't run any quicker than on the Diamond.
The Touch Pro's name should really be changed to "Fat Diamond".
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I agree.
Im not familiar with the Processor the PRO has but im assuming the Processor is the same on both.
I believe the speed is judged by the MGz in the Processor. So if both carry the same processor they should have same speeds.
IMO I might be mistaken.
With the new ROM and tweaking programs my Diamond is very very fast... I'm very pleased now... and I don't like the HTC Touch PRO because is not that slim like the Diamond wich is on of the ``features`` I like about it.
With Bepe 0.98 ROM, Mine is running a little faster than that
Mine is that fast or faster too, thanks Dutty, and that's with a big pile of crap loaded on by me too.
Noam23 said:
Unlike Desktop PCs (and correct me if I'm wrong), WM doesn't use RAM to cache hard drive information
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Actually, there is a setting that can make the diamond cache file system....
when cooked touch pro ROMs manifest themselves, we might see a difference though I'm just looking forward to how much the diamond is going to earn on raphaels drivers and software
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when cooked touch pro ROMs manifest themselves, we might see a difference though I'm just looking forward to how much the diamond is going to earn on raphaels drivers and software
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Indeed!!!
Besides if you look at PROS desktop pictures you can see a diference in its Manila, its got a diferent Homepage!
Diamond is gonna inherit much of that wealth.
Luck fellas!
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I have stock ROM .. and my Diamond is as fast as the one in the video ..
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Could you tell me what version your stock ROM is please. Thanks
my diamond is on DUtty v1.6 and it's fast! slightly faster than on the video if i have to say?
I get the same performance as in the video with a 1.37 Swedish stock rom.
The only (tempoarary) performance issues I have with TF3D is after I for instance close down Opera or do some other CPU intensive task. It then usually takes a few seconds before the menus are back to being as responsive as usual. But that's it.
I have however applied the standard registry tweaks, but as far as I can remember I did not observe any significant change in performance.
Techno79 said:
Could you tell me what version your stock ROM is please. Thanks
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take a look at at my Signature
I currently own a diamond and I'm considering a topaz as my next phone. I see that both devices has similar cpu so I'm curious if topaz is actually faster than diamond in any way (graphics / applications / file system)? Did someone actually measured the difference between these two phones?
I'd say buy a hero
But Diamond vs Topaz, The Topaz will benchmark better ;-)
Although there are still some bugs...
I had a Diamond before my Topaz and I can say, the Topaz is better in every way except for size.
The Hero could be a good option for me once the quality (and quantity) of the software written for android reaches the quality of the WM software. Probably after one more year...
I think in pietrucci's benchmark file are some Diamond ROM's. There might be another file in the Diamond forum with his benchmarks. So you can compare directly.
No doubt, it is much faster then Diamond. I have both and a'm very happy with the Diamond2
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I think in pietrucci's benchmark file are some Diamond ROM's. There might be another file in the Diamond forum with his benchmarks. So you can compare directly.
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Yes, look at the threads "Some benchmarking...", both on the Diamond and on the Topaz forum. Benchmarks for lots of ROMs, stock and cooked.
Topaz is much faster...
Hi,
I just installed on my HD:
"Dutty's WM6.5 R8 Turbo"
and on my "Himalya" (you remember this oooold XDA2):
"Swampy395_Hima_23001_5_0_60_v1_20"
I couldnt believe what I noticed comparing them in speed.
I didn' do any benchmark but even comparing the scroll speed and smoothness of WM6.5 statmenu -> my Hima is much faster!!! (really smoth while on HD i could notice some hangs)
Could it really be just cause of the higher resolution?
Or is it cause of the different WM versions or anything else?
Is there anything I could do 2 speed up my HD.
(Think Dutty already cooks in the bet2 driver does he?)
Regards
FrEcP
The higer res makes the difference.
So I assume that your old device is QVGA right?
If so than I would expect to be much faster.
Y - think Hima is on 320x240 while HD is 800x480 - I know it's lower a quater of HD
But it's hard, to notice that the HD just can't handle its own resolution
while a !6 Year old! device is fast an smooth with same the system.
Don't turn this into a ROM comparison thread.
i think whats trying to be said here is that the HD seems underpowered for the resolution of the screen...in many respects i agree.
i have a 300Mhz ipaq 2190 running 240x320 and on a 6.5 ROM it is vastly faster and smoother, i was genuinely shocked.
obviously though there are MANY other benefits the HD offers (compared to that device)
but the question is valid...why have HTC released a beast of a device that offers comparatively less performance per pixel (in resolution terms)
or has the best just not been squeazed from the drivers yet??
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has the best just not been squeazed from the drivers yet??
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You just nailed it. HTC is well-known for this
Digital Outcast said:
You just nailed it. HTC is well-known for this
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I certanly hope so. The GL driver is one example.
Digital Outcast said:
Don't turn this into a ROM comparison thread.
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I'm sorry - but I wanted to know if it's depending on ROM's (versions, settings,...) or just on resolution (and bad drivers).
As really sems to be the resolution/drivers and there are enough performance threads you can close this if you want.
Regards
Sadly noticing my crappy HD performace - but start to love my Hima again more and more (I ever did) *g*