Disabling GSM/GPRS etc but keeping GPS - P3600 Software Upgrading

Hi guys,
I have been using my trinity solely as a GPS device running TT6 for the last few months. Flashed to wm6 etc, everything is working great - however:
- Is there a way I can disable the telecoms radio but still keep the GPS functionality? I don't have a sim card in the device, but every once in a while it still pops up with the 'emergency calls only' dialling pad, which requires me to hit cancel while driving & sometimes switch back to TT, which is annoying, let alone fairly dangerous at speed. I also guess doing this would have a small positive effect on the battery life of the device, etc.
Are there any 'GPS only' radio roms out there?
Thanks a lot for any help you can offer, this is a great forum!
Nik

serbington said:
Hi guys,
I have been using my trinity solely as a GPS device running TT6 for the last few months. Flashed to wm6 etc, everything is working great - however:
- Is there a way I can disable the telecoms radio but still keep the GPS functionality? I don't have a sim card in the device, but every once in a while it still pops up with the 'emergency calls only' dialling pad, which requires me to hit cancel while driving & sometimes switch back to TT, which is annoying, let alone fairly dangerous at speed. I also guess doing this would have a small positive effect on the battery life of the device, etc.
Are there any 'GPS only' radio roms out there?
Thanks a lot for any help you can offer, this is a great forum!
Nik
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In the CommManager you can disable everything!

Yeah I know, but when I disable phone / 3g / etc it goes into flight mode and turns the gps off as well (even without flight mode, just with 'phone' off)! Do you know if the gsm radio is independent of the gps, or if the comms manager just disables the whole chip...
Cheers

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Useful Prog: Automatically Turn up Volume when TomTom is Launched

If you are like me there are many times when you launch TomTom but you do not have any sound because your phone was on vibrate when it was launched or the volume on your phone was set too low to hear the voices. Well after some searching I came across this program on an Axim forum that will automatically turn your volume up when you launch TomTom and will turn it back to its original level when you quit TomTom. This works perfectly on my Kaiser.
Since we have internal GPS you will probably want to disable the bluetooth option in the configuration file.
You can find the thread here:
http://aximsite.com/boards/gps-talk/140969-tomtom-6-volume-override-loader.html
If you do not want to register I also attached the same file.
Wow, this is deadly intersting, thanks for your share I ll have a closer look into it
This is big news for me -- I always run my Tilt in vibration mode and I've given up with all the fuss of turning on the sound with TomTom anymore.
When TomTom is launched via the loader, I still get the 'No Sound' icon in the lower left hand corner of the map area. However, When I increase the volume (via slider wheel) the sound does indeed come on.
Not perfect, but a hell of a lot better than before!
If the DATA CONNECTION is active, you will get that issue.
So, check your DATA CONNECTION before turning on TomTom.
You dont need that prog.
gogol said:
If the DATA CONNECTION is active, you will get that issue.
So, check your DATA CONNECTION before turning on TomTom.
You dont need that prog.
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I just tested this and you are right. That is a strange bug but it is good to know, however I use direct push so my data connection is always active so this program is still very helpful for me. For me the whole point is to just launch Tom Tom and be good to go. Disabling my data connection each time would be a hassle.

TomTom Sound Issue

Question -- I have TomTom on my Tilt ... it installs fine, and works fine ... however each time I start it up the sound is turned off .. .and I have to touch the screen, turn on the sound twice before the change in settings "sticks" and I get the voice giving me directions.
Any thoughts how I can fix this?
Mine does the exact same thing, otherwise it works perfectly. Running XDA Live 1.1 ROM...
That is the default function. You must always activate the sound after starting.
GSLEON3 said:
That is the default function. You must always activate the sound after starting.
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hate to tell you guys, but it's not the default. The sound is on when I fire up Tom Tom on my Tilt, I've never had any issue nor had to go into settings to turn it on before. Are you guys using a ROM other then the original one?
Default off on both my HK Kaiser & my AT&T Tilt. Don't know what to tell you.
Solution that works for me!
I have found that all I have to do is to rotate the volume wheel on the side of my Tilt and the sound gets turned on without having to go through the preferences menu. It will repeat the last direction when you do this but it doesn't bother me too much and it lets me know that the sound is enabled.
The same issues occur with the previous version 6.03
And on other PPCs as well (eg IPAQ hw6910).
But it does not happen always, so I deduce it's related to conflicts with other softwares.
And it certainly isn't a feature, as a previous poster suggested.
TT as a default always starts with sound ON.
weinson said:
Question -- I have TomTom on my Tilt ... it installs fine, and works fine ... however each time I start it up the sound is turned off .. .and I have to touch the screen, turn on the sound twice before the change in settings "sticks" and I get the voice giving me directions.
Any thoughts how I can fix this?
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I didn't have this problem until about 30 minutes ago, I received the Carcomm Cradle I ordered for the car, installed it, tried out TomTom and now I have the same problem as you.
Are any of you using a Carcomm Cradle?
The only other thing I changed before the sound problem is I bought a "Veripart 3-in-1 Converter HTC ExtUSB" so I can charge the PDA and listen to music using the 3,5 mm jack port.
I also have exactly the same problem, and solve it with the volume wheel. I also had this problem on my Hermes.
TomTom 'fixes'
FWIW, not sure why, but the volume wheel never solves my problem in a predictable fashion, so I've went and found the following apps that make things easier:
TomTom Menu Builder -- Change the location of where the 'Turn on sound' or any button shows up in the menu for faster access. e.g., I've placed my 'Turn on sound' button on page 1 with 'Navigate to' and 'exit application'. The menu also allows you to enable all sorts of 'hidden' menus, with the most useful being the voice preferences menu, which lets you choose how verbose the speaker is. Alternatively, if you're not up to installing the menu builder, you could download my TomTom menu (see attached). Either way, place TomTom.mnu in \TomTom\SdkRegistry.
TomTom Starter -- Make your phone volume max and turn off all notification popups before starting TomTom. Reverses volume and notification changes after exiting TomTom. Great for when you forget that your phone is on vibrate or at a low sound setting.
BTW, its not the ROM that is the problem, it most likely has to do with TomTom. I'm using 6.03, non-taster edition.
The sound will be muted when you start TomTom with a data connection active. If you disconnect your data connection (G, 3G or H) before starting TomTom the sound should be on.....
michi123 said:
The sound will be muted when you start TomTom with a data connection active. If you disconnect your data connection (G, 3G or H) before starting TomTom the sound should be on.....
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Thanks michi123, I seem to recall reading about this in another thread. However, that's still yet another application (comm manager) and button I need to press before starting TomTom.
It's much easier for me to use the two applications I've included, as I'll need to go into the menu anyway to enter my navigation point and should I forget to turn off vibrate or crank up my volume, TomTomStarter fixes that for me...
michi123 said:
The sound will be muted when you start TomTom with a data connection active. If you disconnect your data connection (G, 3G or H) before starting TomTom the sound should be on.....
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Hey your right, I turned, the data connection off and it's Ok now.
Thanks...
michi123 said:
The sound will be muted when you start TomTom with a data connection active. If you disconnect your data connection (G, 3G or H) before starting TomTom the sound should be on.....
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Excellent! That works. And unless you have changed the functionality of your end button (like in the xda ROM) it is pretty quick to hold down the red end button (to close all data connections) before opening TomTom.
But it's not very effective when you're using a converged device, right?
I mean, would you turn off your phone every time you'd want to load TT, and then have to remember to turn it back on (while still inside TT)?
wisniak said:
I mean, would you turn off your phone every time you'd want to load TT, and then have to remember to turn it back on (while still inside TT)?
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All holding down the end key does is cancel all active data connections .. it does not "turn off" the phone (unless you happen to be on a call). So yes, if you want to tun TT when you are on the phone, this solution will not work, but if you want to run TT when you are not actively speaking, holding down the end key first solves the sound problem. Then, you can still make and receive calls and, for that matter, you can still use data programs too, all with TT running.
Very useful thread, I've just updated mine and my G/Fs TyTns, we both have exactly the same ROM and RADIO, hers starts with Volume on, Mine starts with Volume off, the only real difference is that we're on different service providers, we both have MS ActiveSync running against our different corporate Exchange servers, and I have reduced my connectivity to GPRS to save battery. Will give the Tweaker app a go and see what happens. Sh
Alex. What version of tomtom are you running. I cannot get the menu file to work with my version 6.032(8351) no taster version.
Hi guys,
I just wanted to post on here cos I noticed some information that I didn’t agree with and also I have tested what others have said and it works so I thought I would say thankyou in one breath and bugger in another.
I have tested TomTom 6.031 SDK version on a HTC TyTN2, Glofiish, HP614c, HTC p3300 and a HTC Cruise and all of them start TomTom with the sound muted if they have a data connection active!
Sound is not muted at start-up if there is no data connection. This is great to know as I was baffled by it all but it also causes me a pain in that I need the data connection all the time, so I think its a mistake if TomTom themselves presume otherwise.
I have a XDA Orbit 2 on order but I am guessing it will be the same with that. I dont remember this issue with Windows Mobile 5, but it happens for sure on 6.
Also I have an issue with the 6.031 SDK and the unmute function call doesn’t appear to work!
Ho hum... so many devices with the same issue....
Ram
I have to admit I made a slight error in my statement above, I hadn’t tried it on the HTC p3300 and got the same result, it would appear that the HTC p3300 is the only device out of the many I have tried that doesn’t switch to silent when loading TomTom while a data connection is active.
I am trying to work out why this is as I am running the same software installation on all the devices.

How to turn on GPS?

Hi,
I just received my Diamond and I couldn't find any way to turn on the GPS. Weird huh? There is no reference in the manual on how to turn it on at all.
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
You don't turn it on. If an application needs it it comes on by itself. For example - look at Google Maps - it uses the phone masts to get your position. Go to the menu - select Use GPS and it will then get a GPS fix and give you a more accurate position.
Ok, that clear things up for me... but the weird thing is, I'm not getting any signal at all, even in open space. I have my Garmin Bluetooth sitting beside the Diamond and it is getting signal from the satellites.
Ok, I tried hard reset the device and now the GPS is working. The store which I bought the device from, pre-installed tons of software in it. Maybe some of the software interfere with the internal GPS.
Thanks TheBrit for replying in just 2 minutes.
warning
If you Use the Advanced Configuration Tool DONT USE ASSITED GPS do NOT ENABLE IT! Because there are some troubles. Otherwise you will need to hardreset your device.
charly_mx said:
If you Use the Advanced Configuration Tool DONT USE ASSITED GPS do NOT ENABLE IT! Because there are some troubles. Otherwise you will need to hardreset your device.
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Agreed.

Two problems with the XDA Ignito - Please Help

I have two problems at the moment with the XDA Ignito. It is a great handset otherwise.
The first problem is not one that concerns me too much. It is when I add recipient to a SMS and click to send, it shows an error message saying the format of the number to send to isn't correct or something similar but asks if I want to send anyway. I know that sending texts works fine though apart from that error which is just a little annoying if it is going to pop up every time I want to send a message.
The second problem is one that annoys me quite a bit more. It is to do with the GPS. I believe at the moment, it is getting the location from mobile phone masts and not the GPS satellites.
In GoogleMaps, it is saying My Location is within 1800m of a greyish/blue pale circle and there is a brighter circle in the centre of the big circle.
I've seen a video on YouTube of one using the HTC Touch Diamond and they have managed to track the satellites fairly quickly and my friend who also has the same handset as me says his GPS works fine. Takes a few minutes to connect to several satellites he said.
If anyone wants to know my GPS settings, I have program port on COM4, the hardware port is None and baud rate (or whatever it is is set at 4800) and mangement of GPS by software is set to be managed automatically.
I can admit that I have not tried this outdoors yet but have sat at a window with this so it should be working.
I think I've read somewhere about incoming beams being set on receive all incoming beams can affect this working? Is this correct? Oh, and all the other settings are defaults. Using the standard O2 ROM that came on the device. Think its dated the 8th Aug if that is any help.
Thanks in advance to anyone that can help.
I must also add, there does not appear to be any QuickGPS listed under programs. Where could it be?
Can anyone confirm whether this is normal? I understand those with a HTC Official ROM will have it but not sure why with my O2 ROM it is not listed. Could it still be installed yet not listed under programs for some unknown reason?
i can't help you with the sms problem, however with the gps - you will likely not get enough reception on your gps receiver indoors, since the satellites must be in sight, at least three of them to be able to determine your position by triangulation. so go outdoors and try it again, then it should work.
For some reason, o2 appear to have decided to remove QuickGPS. Whilst using the o2 rom I never got a gps fix even leaving the device for around an hour sat on the window sill.
I got fed up, flashed a new HardSPL and Dutty's ROM onto the device and then updated the QuickGPS data. This worked perfectly and within a minute or two I had full gps lock and tomtom was able to pin point my position accurately.
On a seperate note, line of sight isn't particularly important I found as I can sit in my living room around 4 metres from any window and it picks up satellites from cold as quick as standing outside. This is the same with my old phone as well (artemis) which managed to pick up a fix very promptly even tho it uses a different gps chip.
O2 haven't included QuickGPS as this functionality is supposedly included on the chipset and downloads the data from the carrier signal.
I found that with Assisted GPS enabled, my phone was tracking location using mobile phone masts, as soon as i turned it off the GPS performance was fine. (You can use Advanced Config to do this)
Captain Jean Luc Picard said:
O2 haven't included QuickGPS as this functionality is supposedly included on the chipset and downloads the data from the carrier signal.
I found that with Assisted GPS enabled, my phone was tracking location using mobile phone masts, as soon as i turned it off the GPS performance was fine. (You can use Advanced Config to do this)
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Advanced Config?
I think Advanced Config is a program that you install on your device. Gives you all sorts of options to make modifications to settings and tweak the device to improve on performance. I'm not sure I want to try this at the moment. Would rather have the device working as I think it should be using the current O2 ROM that came on the device.
I'm going to check out the GPS again when I go out later on and see if it works.
I still have a problem with the Text messaging where an error pops up before sending the message. Says something like format is not right for the phone number even though I have added the person from the contacts list. For some reason it just doesn't like the format the number is in.
Everything else with the device is fine though.
Oh one more thing, just out of interest, is it possible to obtain QuickGPS (CAB file) without having to change ROM? I once got the HTC Streaming Media application for my XDA Orbit from somewhere on this site.
Thanks.
I'd also be interested in Quick GPS as the GPS lock on my Ignito is terrible compared to my Orbit 2....
I've had a dig around and all I can find are failry incomprehensible registry hacks etc etc.
I've desabled AGPS via Diamond Tweak and I'll see if it's any quicker to get a lock now....
I'm a bit confused to bbe honest!
I've been outside with the GPS. It is amazing just how accurate it is now.
One thing I've noticed though is when I had a play around with the device this evening. It was asking me to enter my system and sim pins one after the other as though I had switched the device off. The device must have some how reset itself while in my pocket or maybe due to a period of inactivity.
I have pretty much the same power settings as what I had on my XDA Orbit.
I have the screen and phone power to standby or whatever it is called after 1min when running on battery and 10mins when connected to mains, could that trigger this in the XDA Ignito?
Thanks.
Still got to look into the SMS issue. Might be O2 settings related but got a feeling it is software.
glad you got your GPS working mate!
Still got the problem with the SMS error dialog box popping up before allowing me to send the message. Anyone have any ideas on how I'd get rid of that?
Thanks.

AGPS - any proof of it working/providing benefit? (new topic - pls read!)

Now please no groaning when you see this topic. I know the GPS has been hammered to death on these forums; this post is my vein attempt to see if one particular area of interest of mine has at all moved forward.
(let's also side-step the whole "does your GPS lag?" issue here too!)
(..and, for clarify, I'm referring to AGPS as in the use of the mobile phone network to 'assist' positioning by use of triangulation in areas of poor/no GPS reception, and NOT the use of QuickGPS to download current sat. info in an attempt to get a quicker initial fix)
I used to use TomTom Navigator v7.450; it worked (of a fashion! ) although one specific thing that never worked was that whenever AGPS was enabled (using AdvancedConfig or similar) TomTom would get a signal and then immediately drop it again.. on/off on/off etc.. the fix being to disable AGPS.
I must admit I'm suspicious about HTC having their stock ROMs with AGPS disabled by default - especially as this was initially a 'selling point' of the device and part of the sales blurb ("not only does it have GPS but really good GPS using AGPS".. oh the irony!) - have they themselves ever got it to work?!?!
Now TomTom Navigator v7.910 is out (have just installed it myself, currently waiting for an updated map to download). I have seen it muted that this now works with AGPS on the Diamond or maybe the Pro (ie. someone reports the above bug, yet claims it now works having moved to v7.910). Can anyone else confirm this? More importantly, can anyone confirm AGPS has given the Diamond any GPS-related benefit what-so-ever?? (ie. great if it doesn't stop TomTom working anymore, but does it actually improve it like it should?).
I'll of course try it out myself later today or over the weekend and report back.
Hope this makes sense.. cheers.
just tried TomTom 7.910 (9185) with AGPS enabled, and cant say i noticed much difference.
seems the same now with it enable or dissabled. Cant be sure tho, havent done a long journey yet.
Will update later/tomorrow.
mugglesquop said:
just tried TomTom 7.910 (9185) with AGPS enabled, and cant say i noticed much difference.
seems the same now with it enable or disabled. Cant be sure tho, haven't done a long journey yet.
Will update later/tomorrow.
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Thanks for taking the time etc.
Interesting, because..
I've just taken a wonder outside and found I'm still getting the signal constantly being lost bug (looking at the screen that shows the sat. bars I have a good signal for a few seconds, then this goes and 'No GPS device' is displayed, then good signal back again and so on).
On this Diamond I'm using ROM 1.93.401.2 the the supplied radio (1.0.25.05), as I suspected this 'improvement' (potentially) noticed by you/others is more likely a result of a ROM/radio update and not a TomTom software update (guessing this AGPS bug isn't the first thing you try after flashing is it?).
Hmm..
nb. I'm using the exact same version/build of TomTom as you
hmmm... yeh, i'm going on a 60+ mile journey later, so will have a play.
Using Dutty's 3.4 ROM and Radio is BS14...
I thought that the whole point of AGPS is so you could help you get a GPS fix when indoors. Which I always thought was an unusual selling point when the entire purpose of GPS software is to help you find your way in the outdoors. Perhaps it could be more useful for those new tagging services that are popping up.
Anyhow I've been running a fairly recent version of iGo8 using Dutty's Rom 3.3 and 3.4 (both with that new radio).
With AGPS turned off, GPS signal is quickly attained and holds strong outdoors. Nothing indoors, naturally.
With AGPS turned on (via Duttys "AGPS Settings" utility), GPS signal is as quickly attained and flickers fully on then fully off, repeating constantly. When indoors, nothing at all.
So, with iGo8, AGPS seems to be a non-runner.
By the way, I once read that AGPS has to be configured to your particular mobile provider. Perhaps that's the issue?
Same here, with a-gps enabled signal drops constantly
after my journey yesterday, had the same problems as above.
tried with TomTom 7 and iGo8
I've never had any problems with GPS apart from slow getting a moving fix when the unit is physically very hot.
The main benefit of AGPS for me is that you can get your location on Google Maps within 1500m or so without enabling GPS.
It also proves A-GPS works.
ben cole said:
I've never had any problems with GPS apart from slow getting a moving fix when the unit is physically very hot.
The main benefit of AGPS for me is that you can get your location on Google Maps within 1500m or so without enabling GPS.
It also proves A-GPS works.
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Hmm, I think this is thanks to googles effort, not AGPS... Google uses Google Gears API which can position you by using basestations and SSIDs.
AGPS is correcting/updating the GPS data with actual almanac data sent from you mobile provider...
Pitchb3nd said:
Same here, with a-gps enabled signal drops constantly
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Same for me, anyone being able to use TomTom and AGPS without losing signal periodically?
ben cole said:
I've never had any problems with GPS apart from slow getting a moving fix when the unit is physically very hot.
The main benefit of AGPS for me is that you can get your location on Google Maps within 1500m or so without enabling GPS.
It also proves A-GPS works.
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Yeah Google Maps does this on its own without having AGPS enabled on the Diamond. I believe AGPS is supposed to be more accurate than 1000m - 1500m though.
Oh and I believe the way that Google Maps gets its position depends on your mobile provider. I used to get the message "your location is not available" constantly on my network but one day (simultaneously as the iPhone was released in my country), the location was available. So I believe that the network flicked a switch for this technology to work.
AGps and TomTom
Hi,
agps have need to run to:
1) Carrier to inform MobilePhone here is (Is a Base Station Issue)
2) Public information about position
On mobilephone if is enable i think is need to have different information, and tomtom have old pattern to process agps information.
With googlemaps have new process and can use.
With my diamond agps run (googlemaps)
Cityhunter71
Please, don't mix the Google technology and A-GPS. They have nothing in common.
Google maintains their own privately held database of GSM-cellids which GMM can query to determine your position based on the current cellid.
A-GPS is a technology where the GSM-basestation itself receives GPS-satellitedata and relays it to the device. With this additional data, the GPS-receiver in the device is supposed to achieve a faster fix.
Have fun!
a-gps works with 7.450
i remember once that it was taking forever for the satelites to be found yet is was updating my postion on the map constantly via a-gps (which im sure was enabled by default in stock rom as ive never changed it)
a-gps is useful inside because you usually have your phone with you and to find a route, you need gps
Apologies for my erroneous post.
I realised my error today when I installed Google Maps on an ageing Blackberry I had unlocked to play with.
Started it up and lo and behold there was my location....thought I'd better head back here to suffer my shame ...LOL
Thanks for the input guys.
So - in summary:
Even with later ROMS / radios / software applications, there is still yet to be seen any benefit from the Diamond (theoretically) having an A-GPS capability.
RUBBISH!!
I personally subscribe to the theory that there is a missing link between the A-GPS driver type software and an info feed from the likes of the network operator, ie. it's all very well it picking up info on the network but without a back-end database to translate this it's useless.
As far as purpose goes.. I personally think A-GPS sounds on paper to be a great idea. Not a replacement for GPS, nor to be used exclusively indoors, but a good aid/starting point. For example, if I'm sitting in an unfamiliar office in London and wanted to use TomTom to navigate me a route to where I want to get to, A-GPS could provide TomTom with a rough starting point. Similarly, I often find myself launch a nav program (when I'm lost!) and standing there for up to 5 mins waiting for a fix.. at least this would give me an approximation from which I could probably work out myself where I was from looking around me. In my mind when you first fire up TomTom on the Diamond A-GPS should simply put you in the right postcode and start doing its stuff while the GPS seeks out its signal, and not still show me as being either at Home or its last known destination. But in any event - it seems not to work!! Bugger!!
I thought that aGPS was also to help hold a GPS signal when in tunnels, canyons, heavy forest cover (ie.Redwoods in this area, many tower to well over 300 feet!) or any situation where the signal from the satellites may be impaired, or even blocked completely.
Im running Duttys 3.5 and with AGPS on I will get a signal for 10 seconds, then it goes for a second, then back for 10. then gone. Turned AGPS off and all is well.
I can confirm that AGPS does work, some parts here in Finland it works and someplaces it does that on off thingy. once when I was just playing with my tomtom it got signal where it would never get it without it. but mostly here it doesnt work properly so i disable it.
But in Helsinki (larger city) it works properly and helps getting signal fast beneath tall buildings.
But yeah it doesnt work in my hometown so its kinda rubbish here.
Maybe it has something to do with how new are nearby cell towers or something. dunno
In Trondheim, Norway it worked with Telenor and gave me a signal indoors, but when I use it together with TomTom the signal gets lost periodicly, really really annoying since "everything" is already there. Probably just something with the co-operation with the regular GPS or something?
I think i got it to run.
I use tt7.910 on diamond with htc 1.93 dutch rom
My mobile provider is mobistar.
I can get a lock inside, tough it's slow(ie not as fast as outside).
When I fire up tt7 the almanac data is showing in the satelite screen.
reg settings are:
Code:
GPRSConnection: Orange World
GpsMode: 4
Network: Orange World
ServerIP: 194.51.71.138
ServerPort: 7275
ServerUrl: agps.orange.fr

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