Yesterday I flashed my S730 with Alcalines WM 6.1 rom, and I have to say it works awesome! I also like the new task manager because of its option to view all running processes. But for some reason, I don't get the option 'end process' on the left softkey, a feature I've seen on several Youtube videos.
I've spitted through the windows registry without any result. Does anyone know how to enable it? Or is it a function available on pre-production devices only?
.CyberBrain
yups
I got the same problem.
Ending a proces should be very usefull for me.
I use pocketplayer and sometimes de app is closed en de proces not, then I have to reboot, otherwise pocketplayer wouldn't start again, couse the ram is full.
iff this problem could be dissolved, it would be nice.
greets,
Niels
ps: should I get an english training?
I've exactly the same 'problem' with activesync. When I unplug the USB cable from my phone, the sync application is closed, but some sort of active sync process still runs with 2-3 MB of valuable ram in use. I can only kill this process by rebooting the device.
And at least your English is understandable, so it's good enough ;-)
cbnl said:
I can only kill this process by rebooting the device.
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Use some of the better task managers. Celetask for example.
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Hi all. I am on the hunt for a decent Task Switcher app that will work with WM6.
I used to use Wisbar Lite and loved it but it looks yuck on WM6 as it forces the older (WM5 Close Icon)
What I need is Something that I can launch with a button and will show all the running apps in a pop up window and allow me to switches between them by tapping on an application icon in said pop up window.
And it must not change or add anything to the start bar.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Jules
pBar
have you tried the pBar application that is around on the forums? it's freeware and was based on the old wisbar. seems to work well, but i don't think i am using a full wm6...just the beta ish...or wm5 heavily skinned wm6....
do a search and you're bound to find it...
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Hi all. I am on the hunt for a decent Task Switcher app that will work with WM6.
I used to use Wisbar Lite and loved it but it looks yuck on WM6 as it forces the older (WM5 Close Icon)
What I need is Something that I can launch with a button and will show all the running apps in a pop up window and allow me to switches between them by tapping on an application icon in said pop up window.
And it must not change or add anything to the start bar.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Jules
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I'm running a PDAviet WM6, it has this in it's ROM. Tap and hold upper-right corner.
I love it when I can answer my own questions
After searching and using a bunch off apps and not having any luck I just tried Small Menu and It works 100% in WM6.
Meets all my requirements
More news or problems as I find them
Jules
gspocket magic
best app that does all you want
Thanks for the replies.
Vilem. please can you elaborate on that?
I am using Davit ver 3 and have not seen this app.
Sandrobber. Thanks for the file, I have tried the app before but it doesn't match or look good on the stock WM6 start bar. am I missing a setting or something?
So far SmallmenuPlus is the winner for me.
Jules
I have to say, people I know that have been running Crossbow for a few months, have found SmallMenuPlus to be great.
On an unrelated note, I've run SmallMenu pretty much since I got my first WinMob phone, and can highly recommend it. It's not perfect, but it's very useful.
PocketMagic is also a very worth (free) contender.
I don't use Wisbar (resource usage....) so can't comment.
V
Does anyone know a way to exclude some applications (activesync and phone) from smallmenuplus task list?
Killing the phone process during a conversation or closing activesync during a pc sync can be really dangerous/disappointing.
No, I don't think you can, hence my "It's not perfect"
Try writing to the author, he's still active, although the app only seems to get minor updates these days.
V
I've been using Dinar HandySwitcher 2.5 from DinarSoft for a good while now. It has the decided advantage that you can also remove the application from memory, or all applications from memory, right from the main screen. Most times the only way to clear applications is through the start/settings/systems /memory route or a hard power down.
It's not free but it is cheap, easy and effective. Don't know if it runs on W6.
Trying it now.
Works fine in WM6.
Thanks
pocket magic
you can chenge the pictures of the start bar in pocket magis but it takes some enginutity and time. your have to edit the bitmap. Play aroung with it enough and I'm sure you can make it even look loke a vista button
http://homepage3.nifty.com/UK-taniyama/tools/GSPMagicPP.html
@ZaJules,
Which taskswitcher did you settle with in the end for WM6?
Hadn't seen this thread, thanks for bumping it up . So I'm trying SmallMenuPlus and this seems like a really nice (and fast) replacement for Wisbar Lite. The one thing I miss though is there is no soft reset in the menu. I like having that ability to do a soft reset via the menu due to the case I have doesn't have easy access to the reset hole on the side. Anyone know how to add this?
Also, does SmallMenuPlus not close apps when you press the X? Does it just put them in background? Can that be configured?
SKmenu
Skmenu is the one for me. Its not free(for the cascading menu part, which can be deactivated! ), but the taskbar switching works 100% with the demo. I have always used it, its very light, and its accessible 100% of the time= very quick(response speed is the issue i have with the rest of the apps mentioned). Although it doesnt come preconfigured setting it up takes less than a minute, and its easy enough for any level user.
The best solution for me. I also use an Alt-tab application mapped to a hardware button for easy access, like when driving etc...
about taskswicher
sry my poor english
Since 2004 and IPAQ6340 until today wizard/universal/hermes WM6 I have used HaaliTS TaskSwicher-2002.
Lives silently in upper left corner, shows additionally free battery and memory.
Dont needs install, copy exe, make shortcut, all )
Perfect for me and my friends (~25-30 units).
Have tested all here overmentioned progs, but find it best. Small footprint, etc.
regards
And what about this little tool??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302643&highlight=alttab
BTW: I´m using ilauncher and you can put taskmanager to button. Works perfekt in every WM6
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And what about this little tool??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302643&highlight=alttab
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Exactly what I needed!
Hi Guys,
I've a problem with Spb Pocket Plus and with the default settings of my TyTN II.
I'll try to explain, because my ROM is in italian and I don't know how to translate them in english.
So, these are the facts:
I've installed the Trial version of Spb Pocket Plus 4.0.1 and I've checked the option to override the default X close button as you can see in pc_capture1.jpg.
Then I deselected it and reenabled from Settings - Buttons the two default items as you can see in pc_capture2.jpg.
But as I can try on my device, after a soft-reset, I can't see in the upper right of the screen the item that can let me choose to see and eventually close the applications running on the device pc_capture3.jpg
Now my question is: what is the registry key that I have to (re)set so I can reenable that functionality overriding that ugly settings from Spb Pocket Plus (that I've deinstalled but without success in resetting the item I need)?
Yes, I know it's difficoult to understand that pictures that are in italian, but if someone can help me, I'll be glad with him/her.
Bye,
ghale.
I know this dosen't really help because you seem to be talking a different avenue than I did... but I had to totally uninstall to get the HTC X back. There is a CAB for the HTC task manager that you might install and see if it over rides the SPB settings...?
Sorry.
If you have both Pocket Plus and the HTC Close Button app running at the same time, your results aren't likely to be good. Either disable the Close Button in Settings, or shut down PP's close button in it's settings, and then soft reset. If that doesn't work, remove Pocket Plus (your settings should be preserved) and reinstall.
Done.
I've the same problem.
Thanks, btw.
Does "Done." mean that you did it and the problem was fixed or that it's still there? Tough to tell from your last post.
Simply means that the problem was NON solved.
So I've reinstalled Spb and I'm trying to use the Spb method to close the application, instead of the HTC one.
I've tried also to install the HTC Task Manager, from 1.51 to 2.00, overwriting the ROM files, too, but without success.
I've tried a lot of time, but no solution.
If someone has other info, please let us know.
Bye,
ghale.
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Does "Done." mean that you did it and the problem was fixed or that it's still there? Tough to tell from your last post.
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Go to settings - system - task manager - button and make sure both boxes there are unchecked. I run Pocket Plus (3.2 upgraded recently to 4.0) without an issue. If that doesn't resolve the problem, it may be something else you're running.
You might try posting your question(s) on the SPB forums. Mods there are most responsive to issues, especially with newly released versions of their software.
http://www.spbclub.com/forum/
Whats the deal with the RAM usage on the Diamond. Its getting to be a joke sometimes. After using the phone for 2 to 3 days, i have to switch it off just so the memory usage can drop back to around 60%. Its seems after using the music player, picture viewer and anyother apps the phone decides that it does not want to release the memory after they have been closed PROPERLY and doesnt even allow me a facility to release manually.
Am i missing something here ? Before anyone asks - yes i have closed programs properly and there is nothing running in the background (that i can see) but the usage jumps from 60% to 80% causing noticable lag.
Any help appriciated.
use a taskmanager and free the ram. i get with it 35% free ram (72 megs). you can close cprog and sip.
I use FreeUP Ram from SKTools but it´s not really good.
Normally i´ve got 60% used RAM and after using the Prog 57 % .
But I think that 40 % free RAM are enough?
whoops i mean i got 35% in used memory. the rest is free. sorry. sk tools is ok but doesnt help much. with the taskman you can close cprog. it seems to be the cache or something. if i had start a program. the cprog task gets bigger and bigger. i can close it without any error. and have a lot of ram. was sip or something is i dont know. i closed it too and no error.
Ok those points seem fair however my problem is that i cant actually see cprog or sip in my task manager. Im using the default one. Their are (apparently) no programs running....
Which taskmanager do you use ganxta?
Ther is no "SIP" running.
Only SIPGT_app.exe
Is it the same?
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Ok those points seem fair however my problem is that i cant actually see cprog or sip in my task manager. Im using the default one. Their are (apparently) no programs running....
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Both are not programs running; they are process running. So you can see them changing from menu > view > "application" to menu > view > "process" (sorry if the path is not correct, but my task manager is in spanish.
Then (viewing "process") you could see cprog and sip, but you won´t be able to close them. You only can close programs running, not process.
Yep i understand its a process but thats the problem im having i guess, i cant actually get to the process list. The task manager only has two options (not including the About) - "Stop All But Selected" & "Memory" - When i navigate to memory there isnt much i can do - its just a break down of whats in use.
So i guess i either need a new Task manager or can someone point me to which menu or program i need to access to get to the processes.
Task manager Info -
The version is: 2.1 Task manager for Pocket PC (Build 34563)
ROM -
1.93.405.1 WWE (The original from HTC)
Never mind I have found a really cool Task Manager tool - much more comprehensive than the crappy one provided with the phone. You can get it from: http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm - pretty nifty tool.
So back on topic - WHAT is CPROG? It’s taking huge memory space so I’m reluctant to close it. If I can get any real information on the process, that would help me make a more informed decision whether to kill it or not.
Thanks for your help so far guys!
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Cprog is actually related to the phone portion of the PDA so its best to keep it running lol. You can close it but you'll find that when you want to make calls etc, it will run it self.
ShadowIXI said:
Never mind I have found a really cool Task Manager tool - much more comprehensive than the crappy one provided with the phone. You can get it from: http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm - pretty nifty tool.
So back on topic - WHAT is CPROG? It’s taking huge memory space so I’m reluctant to close it. If I can get any real information on the process, that would help me make a more informed decision whether to kill it or not.
Thanks for your help so far guys!
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Cprog is actually related to the phone portion of the PDA so its best to keep it running lol. You can close it but you'll find that when you want to make calls etc, it will run it self.
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Thanks for the tool.
About Cprog... exactly; it´s is related to phone. If you close cprog process, the phone still be working but WM will not show the signal icon at the taskbar (you will be able to make an receive calls).
Everytime you make a call, cprog will be loaded in memory again.
With no programs running, how much memory should be being used? Mine says about 37% with no programs running. I have the Sprint CDMA version. I'm trying to figure out how to get the most battery life, so I'm trying everything I can.
Wow! Mine uses around 60% of the memory! When I start it up, It's around 50-55%, and after a bit of usage, it goes up to 60. After like many apps launched, and properly killed, it's around 64-68%. When I start feeling some lags, a soft reset cleans it back to to 50-55...
Of course, no program is running when I check this.
Any best practice in mind to maintain it as low as possible?
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Wow! Mine uses around 60% of the memory! When I start it up, It's around 50-55%, and after a bit of usage, it goes up to 60. After like many apps launched, and properly killed, it's around 64-68%. When I start feeling some lags, a soft reset cleans it back to to 50-55...
Of course, no program is running when I check this.
Any best practice in mind to maintain it as low as possible?
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My Diamond shows after fresh start around 52% too,and after usage it goes upt to 70%
When I tried to stop cprog process, memory gone back to 51% but I was unable to recieve call, the phone doesn't show incoming call,even when caller hear ringing in his phone
i have a similar problem on my verizon touch pro. it has the same amount of ram as the diamond, so cprog.exe eating up 11mb of ram is a big deal to me. anyway, i disabled the dialer skin using the advanced configuration tool. the dialer looks ugly, but it's only eating 1.5mb of ram now.
ironi said:
i have a similar problem on my verizon touch pro. it has the same amount of ram as the diamond, so cprog.exe eating up 11mb of ram is a big deal to me. anyway, i disabled the dialer skin using the advanced configuration tool. the dialer looks ugly, but it's only eating 1.5mb of ram now.
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The grey is ugly isn't it? Fortunately it can be skinned, see my sig.
thanks, cool stuff. if i get some time, i'll play with this in photoshop. maybe something that matches the verizon tf3d a bit better.
Hi, i have a special problem. I have WM6 tofclock fresh ROM and if i open a document in Word, i can close that, but word like process is sitll runing, so i must terminate this proces manualy, by process manager. If i dont close the proces, i cant open word app again. Exist any fix of patch? again excuse my bad english...
ani idea?
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Hi, i have a special problem. I have WM6 tofclock fresh ROM and if i open a document in Word, i can close that, but word like process is sitll runing, so i must terminate this proces manualy, by process manager. If i dont close the proces, i cant open word app again. Exist any fix of patch? again excuse my bad english...
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I am not really sure, whether I understand your problem correct, but it might be a quite normal behaviour when quitting a program by hitting the X-button on the top right.
In this case the software is not closed at all, it is somewhat paused, it goes to background. The reason is to speed up changing apps, but it wastes memory.
I think, one possible solution might be HTC X-button. I don´t use it, you have to test yourself.
My favourite is pocket-nav, a taskmanager in form of a small additional flash on the right side of the X. On tipping that flash, a popup opens, with to nice features: Close all or Close all or but active.
Each of it does exactly, what it is supposed to. Fine.
So everyone has four choices: - fast changing apps (on tipping the progs name), -closing single progs (hitting the X behind the name),-cleaning memory totally or -cleaning the rest of the memory, but keeping the last used alive.
I hope this helps. When I am wrong, sorry for that.
my souliton was flash to another version, concretely athers 6.1...its work perfectly...but thanks for your ideas and respond...
Hi,
I have a little problem.
When ein first turn on my device I have 33% RAM in use.
Now, when I load programs and close them the RAM does't goes down.
Example: First 33%
Launch p2p: 37%
close the program: 34%
If I'm going to do this more then 1 time or even if I load other programs the RAM is getting higher and higher and if I look on my RAM at the evening then I have up to 50% RAM in use and no program is running...
And yes I really had them shut down comletely.
Im currentally using the newest official ROM of HTC from Germany, also the Radio which is includet.
PS: If there is something you don't understand, cause I#m from Germany and my english isn't very well, pls ask me and I'M going to try it better. =)
Welcome to the world of Windows!
If you don't have it already, try installing Dotfred's task manager. You'll find that even though the HTC quick menu (if that's what you're using) says that applications are closed, there are frequently processes running that are eating up RAM. Killing them can help you out. Even so, it's normal for the % to climb as you use more and more applications. That's what soft reset is for.
Thanks,
I installed the Task Manager, very nice application =), but it says that "Opera9.exe" is running (\Windows\Opera9.exe) and if I want to close it it says "The process 'Opera9.exe' couldn't be closed properly do you want to kill it?" Should I kill it? ^^ Or is this an important application which have to run all the time ?
EDIT: Maybe someone could post all important programs which should be in this list =)
Just kill it! If you kill the wrong thing, I think all will happen is you'll need to soft reset (I said 'I think'). The Opera 9 runs all the time, but doesn't consume much memory (mine's saying 4 kb right now). But kill quickqps and active sync/repllog and anything else that doesn't need to be running. It may not solve your problem, but it's kind of fun.
after you kill programs the best one to kill that gets you ram back is cprog.exe you wil have to kill it
lbhocky19 said:
after you kill programs the best one to kill that gets you ram back is cprog.exe you wil have to kill it
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...and just soft reset every time you want to make a call