With the latest rom upgrade to 1.37 the diamond is much snappier and is much much better than its original rom 1.35.
What is disappointing though is that the diamond comes with only 60Mb free storage for the user as compared to 115-150mb for the kaiser or tytnII(all these devices comes with 256mb rom)
Htc ought to install some of its default programs and files eg opera, music,ringtones and pictures,etc that had occupied space in the rom(storage) into its internal storage which had 4 gig instead of using the precious rom space that had only 256mb thereby freeing the rom storage space for additional programs to be install by the user.
Perhaps some rom developer can make a clean rom and the default programs can be installed into the internal storage as cab files subsequently
If the above is done the diamond will definitely shines.
I am therefore looking forward to using the touch pro as it comes with 512mb rom and therefore I assume that the free rom storage should be adequate for the user to install a lot of additional programs
leekg said:
With the latest rom upgrade to 1.37 the diamond is much snappier and is much much better than its original rom 1.35.
What is disappointing though is that the diamond comes with only 60Mb free storage for the user as compared to 115-150mb for the kaiser or tytnII(all these devices comes with 256mb rom)
Htc ought to install some of its default programs and files eg opera, music,ringtones and pictures,etc that had occupied space in the rom(storage) into its internal storage which had 4 gig instead of using the precious rom space that had only 256mb thereby freeing the rom storage space for additional programs to be install by the user.
Perhaps some rom developer can make a clean rom and the default programs can be installed into the internal storage as cab files subsequently
If the above is done the diamond will definitely shines.
I am therefore looking forward to using the touch pro as it comes with 512mb rom and therefore I assume that the free rom storage should be adequate for the user to install a lot of additional programs
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Where can one get the updated ROM? I just got my diamond a week ago.. its sluggish at times.. freeze's atleast once every other day.. etc.. I am currently running 1.34.831.1 WWE.
Thank you in advance.
according to the htc helpdesk version 1.37 is not much different from 1.35
it is just a new country rom.
leekg said:
Htc ought to install some of its default programs and files eg opera, music,ringtones and pictures,etc that had occupied space in the rom(storage) into its internal storage which had 4 gig instead of using the precious rom space that had only 256mb thereby freeing the rom storage space for additional programs to be install by the user.
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Huh? What's the point of that? Why not just install your user apps to the storage? Besides, installing factory-shipped apps in a user-deletable area is a crazy idea.
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This will happen. Why you'd want to waste space installing the optional apps into your precious storage space instead of the spare ROM space intended for that purpose I don't know though...
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I am therefore looking forward to using the touch pro as it comes with 512mb rom and therefore I assume that the free rom storage should be adequate for the user to install a lot of additional programs
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so you get 256MB (probably actually a lot less, they'll install more) more ROM, and that's better how?
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I am a bit disappointed on the available flashrom space on the Kaiser. On a machine that is marketed with a whopping 256MB Flashrom, in reality, only ~130MB is available.
Now I understand that the OS and the pre-installed softwares may take up some rom space. However, I can't remember any other device taking up more than 70-80MB max on the rom! Besides, there aren't many software that are built-in to the device!
So where did our space go?!?!?!
Anyone know?
Τhe windows folder after hard reset is 113 mb !!!! I think we need new ROM...
panosha said:
Τhe windows folder after hard reset is 113 mb !!!! I think we need new ROM...
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This is nuts! I can't seem to locate what is using so much space in the windows directory!!!!
There is a mxip_initdb file that takes 16MB!!!
Big thanx,,,, I'm an admirer of Indian Profissonal Works. Someone Cooked the rom and the other fixed my Mobile's board geniusly.
but still I have a problem/s.
1- Some programmes like MMS composer is only installing on the device ,, there is'nt any options to install it in any other disks
2- If I installed any programme in my SD card something weired happened !!
the SD card volume decreased,, the Storage of my device decreased and the programme volume decreased... !!!! why and how !!!
3- How can I merge the Storage and Programmes memories of the device ( not of the storage card ) togther to get only one with a big size..!!
4- what is the benefit of the ram disk can I do some manipulations with it to make my device faster !!!!!
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I have to install many medical books as well as some programmes such as Wisbar's, Resco Pack ( Explorer, Veiwer, Recorder ) , Real & Core Players , MMS Composer and some dictionaries .... etc.
Really 30 mb is not enough...
Another issue,,, I've been searching and exploring everything I can possibly explore to find where the 4 mb of the MMS composer is ?? but I unfortunately found nothing... where a hell it goes !!!
lastly, As I mentioned in the thread above,, I do not need the Ram disk and I need something / ideas to make it useful ?!!
First of all, "Program Memory" is not a place where you can put files. It's required by programs to run, just like RAM is required by your desktop computer. The RAMdisk is RAM used as a virtual storage card. What is called "Storage Memory" is flash memory. This is the root file system, and it's persistent. That means that if you hardreset your device you'll lost everything that's on your RAM (RAMdisk) but not what's on your storage memory. Unfortunately, it is small (32 MByte) and slow, whereas the RAMdisk is very fast. You should install all your programs on RAMdisk, otherwise you will not have enough space and your device will slow down. There's one other thing called "Pagepool". It's a part of RAM used for caching, so that program run faster, but you do not need to worry about it.
So, you can't merge Program Memory and Storage Memory. Both are required by your device to run.
What happened to your SD card is quite strange. Try to format it with a sd card reader on your desktop, and check if there are errors on it.
As far as I know, you won't be able to install the MMS software on RAMdisk or SD card because it needs to be in the \Windows directory to run.
Thanx Brother
Everything is clear now ... but Still there is questions to be asked later hahahah
Oweida said:
I have to install many medical books as well as some programmes such as Wisbar's, Resco Pack ( Explorer, Veiwer, Recorder ) , Real & Core Players , MMS Composer and some dictionaries .... etc.
Really 30 mb is not enough...
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I do not need the Ram disk and I need something / ideas to make it useful ?!!
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1. you do need RAMdisk:
-it's faster than SD card or Storage
-it keeps Storage clean
-in any decent ROM it IS both hard and soft reset persistent, unless you format it at hard reset.
2. 30 MB is more than enough for almost anyone. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338270
I currently have 18 MB free storage with lots of installed programs, plugins, navigators, dictionaries and so on. If I'd really cared, I could probably clean up more.
Hey all,
I've used several cooked ROMS and noticed that most roms with dynamic page pool have a Total program memory of around 85-89MB, with In use around 30-35mb, and available memory around 50-55MB. I've tried to change pagepool to 18mb and the total memory reduced to only around 80mb...
However when I installed the ATT stock rom without bloatware (using softreset method during customization), the Total mem jumped way up to 101MB, with In use around 27mb, and Available around 74mb. The ATT stock rom is also using a dynamic memory according to pp patcher's analysis.
So why cooked rom have less memory available than a stock rom? Isn't cooked rom suppose to have more available resources than a stock rom?
Thanks for your explanation.
Opera use average over 20mb memory, with any wm 6.1 cooked rom the available memory with opera open is only about 25mb. With att stock rom w/o bloatware I still have 50mb available memory w/opera open...
Hallo everyone,I am stuck in a problem for a long time,As you know,X1'ROM is 512 MB,but my device storage space is always about 200 MB though my rom file is usually smaller than 100MB,I thought it should be about 512-100≈400 MB or some Left,I wonder Where does the missing 400-200=200MB space go?and need a way can solve this,THX
Finally I get the reason,Because i use OSBuilder to create Imgfs.bin,and now I use ImgfsFromDump,It is OK now,thanks all the same!
Hmm, I think device memory is slip into 2 sections... 1 is Storage, 1 is Program... Maybe i wrong, but if u should check that in ur X1, Settings---> SD card and Phone Storage.
U will see that there are 2 section for all, Device and SD card, and Device has 2 sections that are Total storage and Total Program.
Hope u understand my English, I'm learning Eng now, so i still practice it
It depends on rom what you are using. The rom file (nbh) is compress so the decompressed size is about 2 times larger. And people usually use the cutomization what starts after rom update. It also uses some space. Just do a hard reset and see how much space is used.
So yes the 200MB is believable.
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It depends on rom what you are using. The rom file (nbh) is compress so the decompressed size is about 2 times larger. And people usually use the cutomization what starts after rom update. It also uses some space. Just do a hard reset and see how much space is used.
So yes the 200MB is believable.
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thanks for your relpy , And Maybe I did'nt describe it well , I mean when I cooked a rom that is 100 MB then they storage space is 200MB , When rom is 80 MB ,the storage is still 200MB , even 60 MB, no space increase or decrease when rom is smaller or bigger,that's the problem
Hello,
as I see there are some kernels and roms, but for me key question is how much internal memory can I gain after removing write protection (I couldn't find such information).
I know that it probably depends on how much I decide to delete, but I would be thankful if someone wrote:
- which applications take most of the space?
- what is "other" in memory management that takes almost 3GB?
Then I will know if rooting etc. is worth the trouble and warranty loss risk.
Thank you in advance.
Regards,
Chris
3 GB "Other" is the ROM of the phone, you basically have about 1 GB to use. You need a custom ROM to have more space, since in most of the custom ROMs the bloatware, the htc sence, htc keyboard etc are all deleted which frees up some space, but don't expect a lot.
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3 GB "Other" is the ROM of the phone, you basically have about 1 GB to use. You need a custom ROM to have more space, since in most of the custom ROMs the bloatware, the htc sence, htc keyboard etc are all deleted which frees up some space, but don't expect a lot.
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Custom rom not help. Partition and data system has a fixed size. Deleting bloatware free up space on the system partition. Which is unusable.
Then its worse than I thought...
ufonek said:
Custom rom not help. Partition and data system has a fixed size. Deleting bloatware free up space on the system partition. Which is unusable.
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Wow, so it seems that in terms of free space rooting this phone gives you nothing. And that was my main motivation.
Is it possible to change partition size after freeing space? I mean some kind of gparted-thing.
Regards,
Chris
strangeFace said:
Wow, so it seems that in terms of free space rooting this phone gives you nothing. And that was my main motivation.
Is it possible to change partition size after freeing space? I mean some kind of gparted-thing.
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Chris
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Well, at least not something im willing to try, because the chances are to big that I brick my phone.
AFAIK, the partition table (partition size, place etc.) are stored in your hboot. Flashing a custom hboot is possible with S-OFF, but I don't know what I should edit in hboot to change the partition size., and I'm not really willing to try it.
factory reset does not help
Hi guys,
I made factory reset, but the "other" folder is still 2,88 GB out of 4 available after reboot. There are no pictures, videos, games or apps whatsoever, its fatory clean!!, and I don't know what this 2,88 GB data is?
I have a suspect on the /sys folder, which contains more than 500 thousands files! with folder like loop, mmcd...etc. see via ES file explorer. also not thumbnail found.
Any idea how to get rid of that data?
thanks.
ciao,
Rob.