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I was wondering if there is anyway to back up the orginal rom before I flash a new one on?
As in datawise, use PIMBACKUP available in these forums.
Otherwise, if u have the files for the current rom, that is your backup! If its a stock rom, In the upgrade section theres a list of default roms for you, so thats another backup
currently running duties 3.7
but need to send phone back
where can I get the orange rom from?thanks
Check out the wiki, the links to stock ROMs are there.
go to the hard SPL thread.Everything you need is there mate go back one page
thanks guys
for the sake of anyone jumping to this thread from google:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Ship_exe
as i have 3.7 of dutties, do i need to do anything with SPL or can i flash the orange rom the same way as i flashed dutties 3.7 ?
Cheers
i don't think so, but i'd suggest using uspl of the spl of your hd
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i don't think so, but i'd suggest using uspl of the spl of your hd
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sorry just to clarify,
are you saying i should use the blac_uspl.exe file i used to flash dutties 3.7 ?
cheers
m.r.davies said:
sorry just to clarify,
are you saying i should use the blac_uspl.exe file i used to flash dutties 3.7 ?
cheers
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well since ull be flashing an original rom uspl will not be needed..
you can actually download the official ROM from HTC website (at least in Asia, not sure about Europe). In fact, from HTC website, they have telco-specific ROM (such as Starhub and Telstra).
I have done it before, downgrading dutty 3.7 ROM to stock/official using the official ROM update package, and it'll revert back my SPL to 1.12 as well. But I was on SPL/USPL, so I'm not sure with your hard SPL, would your base be downgraded as well, but my guess is it should.
zenkinz said:
you can actually download the official ROM from HTC website (at least in Asia, not sure about Europe). In fact, from HTC website, they have telco-specific ROM (such as Starhub and Telstra).
I have done it before, downgrading dutty 3.7 ROM to stock/official using the official ROM update package, and it'll revert back my SPL to 1.12 as well. But I was on SPL/USPL, so I'm not sure with your hard SPL, would your base be downgraded as well, but my guess is it should.
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thanks
i'm using USPL too
Sorry to sound a dumb ass, but i want to make sure i get this right, cant find much on down grading just upgrading
i've downloaded this file
RUU_BlackStone_Orange_UK_1.19.61.1.rar
and it extracts as
ruu_signed.nbh
can i just use this file from dutties rom
BlackstoneRUUWrapper.exe
and put the .nbh file in the same folder?
the only method i know how to flash is as below
1. put phone into bootloader mode
2. run blac_uspl.exe (for 1.56 roms)
3. wait for the cmd prompt to establish a connection
4. run BlackstoneRUUWrapper.exe which had the dutties rom in same folder
based on that info, do i do that same thing to downgrade?
if someone could let me know which steps i need to follow/mis out that would be great thanks
m.r.davies said:
thanks
i'm using USPL too
Sorry to sound a dumb ass, but i want to make sure i get this right, cant find much on down grading just upgrading
i've downloaded this file
RUU_BlackStone_Orange_UK_1.19.61.1.rar
and it extracts as
ruu_signed.nbh
can i just use this file from dutties rom
BlackstoneRUUWrapper.exe
and put the .nbh file in the same folder?
the only method i know how to flash is as below
1. put phone into bootloader mode
2. run blac_uspl.exe (for 1.56 roms)
3. wait for the cmd prompt to establish a connection
4. run BlackstoneRUUWrapper.exe which had the dutties rom in same folder
based on that info, do i do that same thing to downgrade?
if someone could let me know which steps i need to follow/mis out that would be great thanks
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well just run ruuwrapper. no need to run black uspl.
cvchetan said:
well just run ruuwrapper. no need to run black uspl.
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thanks fella, i shall give that a go
much appreciated
m.r.davies said:
thanks fella, i shall give that a go
much appreciated
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Since you have Dutty's 3.7 on your device at the moment and you are going to restore the stock Orange rom you need to restore the stock SPL that came on your phone before you flash the rom. Otherwise you will be running a newer SPL that is not supported with the older Orange rom and will have distortion and compatibility issues.
To restore your phone to stock you need to:
1. Flash original SPL - most likely 1.14.0000 since the rom versions for Orange are 1.14.xxxx and 1.19.xxxx.
2. Flash original rom.
If you need help restoring the original SPL look in the HSPL thread where it says "How to reflash Stock/Shipped SPL - STEP BY STEP - FOR WARRANTY REASONS ONLY!"
If you still can't figure it out after that, let me know.
also take note of youre sending it back due to faults they wont checkit they just send you another and replace the motherboard
i knoiw because i asked what they didwenthey gotr the broken ones back
Hey,
i recently had the oportunity to use the so called "1clickroot" App "flashrec" on a stock T-Mobile G1 from Germany. So now i have a nandroid backup of the OTA T-Mobile CRC37 Rom.
When i rooted my G1 i used the "Goldcard" method flashing the DRAMIMG.nbh file. Now i have a G1 with german hard-keyboard layout but with the american SPL, so without the äöü and qwerty instead of qwertz.
I planed to work out a HowTo to revert from a rooted continental european G1 back to the Stock Version including the SPL.
I am now looking for a way to dump some how the SPL of a stock german G1 and flash it back to my Device.
Maybe somebody knows a way to do this or has a update.zip including the german stock SPL.
Thanks!
http://code.google.com/p/android-roms/downloads/list google is your friend
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Hey,
i recently had the oportunity to use the so called "1clickroot" App "flashrec" on a stock T-Mobile G1 from Germany. So now i have a nandroid backup of the OTA T-Mobile CRC37 Rom.
When i rooted my G1 i used the "Goldcard" method flashing the DRAMIMG.nbh file. Now i have a G1 with german hard-keyboard layout but with the american SPL, so without the äöü and qwerty instead of qwertz.
I planed to work out a HowTo to revert from a rooted continental european G1 back to the Stock Version including the SPL.
I am now looking for a way to dump some how the SPL of a stock german G1 and flash it back to my Device.
Maybe somebody knows a way to do this or has a update.zip including the german stock SPL.
Thanks!
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I'm confused about what you want to do. The SPL has nothing to do with the keyboard layout, it will also be everwritten when reflashing the shipping ROM.
Hey,
i already tried to apply the backuped ROM from the stock Device using cyanogens recovery img. But after starting up the ROM and setting up german interface language the keyboardlayout was still not the german one (y and z switched and no äöü and so on). I had to replace the /system/usr/keychars/trout-keypad-v3.kcm.bin to get the german keyboard layout. Where does the wrong keyboard layout come from? The dumped img works great on the device it came from with german layout and all the way it has to be.
I thought it has something to do with the SPL, because it's the only thing that ist still changed. Tell me the mistake i have in my understanding.
The G1OrigBootloader_nocheck.zip shold be still the original one from the device shipped in US, other hardkeyboardlayout i think. correct me if i'm wrong!
Thank you for for your hints!
As far as I know the DRAMIMG.nbh you used can change the SPL, Radio, & Rom. Nandroid dosent backup the Radio or SPL. I dont have any experiance with backup those, but I think the only way to do that is through ADB in fastboot, if anything. Updates, as you know, can be easily applied from the recovery boot.
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If you want to do work, you can always extract it from the original german .nbh file. I not sure if its as easy as rezipping it to update.zip... thats over my head for now. Looks like I got some more research to do myself now lol.....
That's the point! There is no german *.nbh file out there as far as i know, so i can't use it. If it where, through goldcard there would be no problem to revert back to stock for german devices.
I am just wondering how i could go back to the stock SPL and how to get the german hard keyboard layout back without changing the trout file every time.
thx
Unless you find the SPL or .nbh file somewhere, your only other option is to find another G1 with the stock SPL, and extract it.
cyanogen mentioned something about this in at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4209412#post4209412
"I think you need to dump all of mtd6ro and extract radio/spl by hand if you need to. Nandroid doesn't touch either of them."
I havent finished reading through all the pages, but you might find out how to there. Im sure theres a thread somewhere, or you can pm cyanogen or another dev for instructions.
Just a couple of quick questions, have searched but couldn't find an answer.
Firstly, have been having a few problems with a lot of the custom ROMs I've been using recently, they usually work well for a while, then start going wrong. I've heard you're meant to flash a stock ROM in between each custom one, was wondering if that's true, as I've never seen it written anywhere. I flash using USPL if it matters. Currently using Dutty's Leo R5, which has also just started going wrong for me.
Also out of interest, how would I go about flashing a stock ROM? Same process as normal? And where would I be able to get the latest one from?
Cheers for any help.
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Just a couple of quick questions, have searched but couldn't find an answer.
Firstly, have been having a few problems with a lot of the custom ROMs I've been using recently, they usually work well for a while, then start going wrong. I've heard you're meant to flash a stock ROM in between each custom one, was wondering if that's true, as I've never seen it written anywhere. I flash using USPL if it matters. Currently using Dutty's Leo R5, which has also just started going wrong for me.
Also out of interest, how would I go about flashing a stock ROM? Same process as normal? And where would I be able to get the latest one from?
Cheers for any help.
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I've never once flashed back to a stock rom in-between custom roms (and I've tried a few) .
But I have also heard that it works for some people having issues with flashing. If you are using uspl, then your stock spl is still intact and you should just be able to flash back to a stock rom (AFAIK in any case - sorry you can see I use hspl)
You can find many of the shipped roms (stock) here
Depending on the rom you choose and your current spl you may get the blue/green screen after the flash, but that would only be due to a rom/spl mismatch.
Thanks for the help, gonna flash a stable ROM for the next few days I think. Just one other thing I've been thinking of, I've got SPL 1.54 showing up in bootloader mode. You know if that's still the one you're supposed to use? Not sure if it should be 1.56?
Tyrrell9 said:
Thanks for the help, gonna flash a stable ROM for the next few days I think. Just one other thing I've been thinking of, I've got SPL 1.54 showing up in bootloader mode. You know if that's still the one you're supposed to use? Not sure if it should be 1.56?
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Is it still 1.54.0000? This is actually an updated stock spl which you loaded when using uspl, so you should be able to just flash one of the later version stock roms. There is no need to downgrade your spl to your original (unless of course you need to return your phone for service)
1.56 is only as a result of using hspl and AFAIK there is no stock 1.56 version.
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Is it still 1.54.0000? This is actually an updated stock spl which you loaded when using uspl, so you should be able to just flash one of the later version stock roms. There is no need to downgrade your spl to your original (unless of course you need to return your phone for service)
1.56 is only as a result of using hspl and AFAIK there is no stock 1.56 version.
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Ah that's alright then, yeah it is still 1.54.0000. I'd just seen something about SPL 1.56 mentioned, so I wondered if there was a newer version of that stock spl. I'll find another ROM to flash for now, seems like I've been doing everything right. Thanks again for your help.
Tyrrell9 said:
Just a couple of quick questions, have searched but couldn't find an answer.
Firstly, have been having a few problems with a lot of the custom ROMs I've been using recently, they usually work well for a while, then start going wrong. I've heard you're meant to flash a stock ROM in between each custom one, was wondering if that's true, as I've never seen it written anywhere. I flash using USPL if it matters. Currently using Dutty's Leo R5, which has also just started going wrong for me.
Also out of interest, how would I go about flashing a stock ROM? Same process as normal? And where would I be able to get the latest one from?
Cheers for any help.
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Flashing back to stock ROM worked for me, my spl has bee upgraded since i started flashing (first one was Dutty 3.9XT). This solved many of my problems encountered flashing the latest Win 6.5 + Manila 2.5 ROMS.
Tyrrell9 said:
Ah that's alright then, yeah it is still 1.54.0000. I'd just seen something about SPL 1.56 mentioned, so I wondered if there was a newer version of that stock spl. I'll find another ROM to flash for now, seems like I've been doing everything right. Thanks again for your help.
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My pleasure - hope you come right.
jigners said:
Flashing back to stock ROM worked for me, my spl has bee upgraded since i started flashing (first one was Dutty 3.9XT). This solved many of my problems encountered flashing the latest Win 6.5 + Manila 2.5 ROMS.
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What stock ROM have you been using? I've only been having problems with 6.5 roms, 3.9xt was the only one I've used so far that's worked flawlessly.
Hallos Tyrrell9,
they usually work well for a while, then start going wrong.
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Fortunatly we are dealing with a form of Windows and as in any windows there is not so much difference. This means that it is silly to think that the same windows OS u installed is running as well or the same as to when u first installed it. We have to MAINTAIN it....
Think of ur phone rom as if it were a windows version on a regular PC. What happens after a few weeks is that it gets cluttered with unnused registry keys (even from installing and uninstalling apps), cache files, temp files and all other junk that gets installed by default. This means that u as a user have to clean it once in a while to get get rid of all this stuff that is going to make ur windows and thus ur phone slow after a while. Fortunatly there is help for us to do so. I use Pocket Mechanic and SKTools for this reason. Another thing is that u can look at the windows startup folder to see what is started. The less it is starting the faster and snappier ur phone will be..
I think it is also silly to think that u have to reflash a new rom every other day. I only flash a new rom if i see some major upgrades in the new one.
I hope this helps some...
Greetz
Caved
caved said:
Hallos Tyrrell9,
Fortunatly we are dealing with a form of Windows and as in any windows there is not so much difference. This means that it is silly to think that the same windows OS u installed is running as well or the same as to when u first installed it. We have to MAINTAIN it....
Think of ur phone rom as if it were a windows version on a regular PC. What happens after a few weeks is that it gets cluttered with unnused registry keys (even from installing and uninstalling apps), cache files, temp files and all other junk that gets installed by default. This means that u as a user have to clean it once in a while to get get rid of all this stuff that is going to make ur windows and thus ur phone slow after a while. Fortunatly there is help for us to do so. I use Pocket Mechanic and SKTools for this reason. Another thing is that u can look at the windows startup folder to see what is started. The less it is starting the faster and snappier ur phone will be..
I think it is also silly to think that u have to reflash a new rom every other day. I only flash a new rom if i see some major upgrades in the new one.
I hope this helps some...
Greetz
Caved
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All true, but some of us have this strange addiction that needs to be satisfied regularly....
Undoubtedly and Unashamedly a member of Flashaholics United
Hallos ClydeB1,
If u enjoy flashing 4 roms a day to see if one or other rom will run better go right ahead, that seem to be a hobby in itself for some people. If thats is doing any good to you or ur HD ? Doubtfull but who am i to judge...
I just said that things don't have to go bad after a period of time becouse it doesn't have to be that way, u are the boss and not ur windows OS.
Greetz
Caved
I'm tired of using all these different cooked ROMS' and each of them have a different problem...some are slow...some are buggy...or maybe it's just my stupid phone/T-Mobile network...or all because it's Microsoft WIndows.
In any case, I'd try going back to Son'y original ROM, is there a way to do that?
shahmed said:
I'm tired of using all these different cooked ROMS' and each of them have a different problem...some are slow...some are buggy...or maybe it's just my stupid phone/T-Mobile network...or all because it's Microsoft WIndows.
In any case, I'd try going back to Son'y original ROM, is there a way to do that?
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No, never - ever!!!
shahmed said:
I'm tired of using all these different cooked ROMS' and each of them have a different problem...some are slow...some are buggy...or maybe it's just my stupid phone/T-Mobile network...or all because it's Microsoft WIndows.
In any case, I'd try going back to Son'y original ROM, is there a way to do that?
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slow ?? bugs ??
hmmm...
you don't know the power of the dark side
...or you have not flashed the pure SEX1 R5
Hi! Yes you may install the stock ROM same way you've been installing the Cooked ROM's.
Just Find the original stock one in this Forum's ROM Section (it is a Sticky).
If you use the sdcard method is more simple. After finding the stock Rom xxx.nbh file, just rename it to "Kovsimg.nbh".
Hope this helps.
I just did the same 2 days ago. You can find the stock WM 6.1 Roms HERE.
And as said just rename the image file to Kovsimg.nbh and flash it like any other Rom.
shahmed said:
I'm tired of using all these different cooked ROMS' and each of them have a different problem...some are slow...some are buggy...or maybe it's just my stupid phone/T-Mobile network...or all because it's Microsoft WIndows.
In any case, I'd try going back to Son'y original ROM, is there a way to do that?
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Is it now? I waited one year 'til my warranty expires and now that it's 8 days over I'm seeing this. hehehe. by any chance, is this reverting back to original rom will really re-virginize your Xperia? Re-virginize as in Nintendo Wii re-virginize?. Just wanna be sure though.
Hi, I have a question … I'm still running WM6.1 with a stock R3AA010 ROM. I'm considering installing one of the WM6.5 ROMs (gtrab's SEX1 R5 BareBone ROM). To do this I need to install the HardSPL, I know. If I want to go back to the stock ROM will R3AA010 install using the HardSPL or do you have to re-install the Stock-SPL. If so how do you do that? I'm sorry if these are noob questions, but the guides aren't absolutely clear on this point - or maybe its I'm a little thick
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Hi, I have a question … I'm still running WM6.1 with a stock R3AA010 ROM. I'm considering installing one of the WM6.5 ROMs (gtrab's SEX1 R5 BareBone ROM). To do this I need to install the HardSPL, I know. If I want to go back to the stock ROM will R3AA010 install using the HardSPL or do you have to re-install the Stock-SPL. If so how do you do that? I'm sorry if these are noob questions, but the guides aren't absolutely clear on this point - or maybe its I'm a little thick
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If you've Hard-SPL and put a custom ROM in but want to change to an official rom, just download the rom and flash as you would a custom rom.
You don't have to put Stock-SPL if you don't want to. But if you someday wanna leave it in for repair etc, then you will have to put Stock-SPL on it, for guarantee reasons.
dogans said:
If you've Hard-SPL and put a custom ROM in but want to change to an official rom, just download the rom and flash as you would a custom rom.
You don't have to put Stock-SPL if you don't want to. But if you someday wanna leave it in for repair etc, then you will have to put Stock-SPL on it, for guarantee reasons.
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Thanks for the clarification dogans. So just to be clear, if I revert from a custom ROM back to a stock ROM the Stock-SPL isn't installed as part of the process. You have to install it afterward, just as you do with the Hard-SPL - Yes?
As far as i know, the HardSPL cant' be overridden by a usual stock ROM. You have to manual flash the original SPL.
Using a stock ROM with HardSPL isn't a problem, but i can't tell you how to get the original stock SPL back if you did _not_ back it up before (thats what i did -.-).
Maybe someone can tell me how to do this, would be very nice
nonno said:
Thanks for the clarification dogans. So just to be clear, if I revert from a custom ROM back to a stock ROM the Stock-SPL isn't installed as part of the process. You have to install it afterward, just as you do with the Hard-SPL - Yes?
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Correct. Stock-SPL isn't included in stock ROM.
You will have to flash that separately.
my xperia x1 can't change rom anymore.. after i change original rom to htc rom(i don't back up the original rom), i can't change it with another rom. plizz help me how to solve this problem.. i'm really want to change it into windows mobile 6.5 pure rom.. thanks..
yes,i am whith Nand version of Android caynogen from Alex,but i want my old WM and i cant go back because it wont make an any conection with the PC...please help us
casper4o said:
yes,i am whith Nand version of Android caynogen from Alex,but i want my old WM and i cant go back because it wont make an any conection with the PC...please help us
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have you tried to go in bootloader mode (3-color-screen) turn phone off. Than press vol down button and camera button until you see a 3 color screen, then you you can put in your USB cable and flash a rom you like the same way you did it with the android rom.