Does anyone know if the TYTN II works on the new T Mobile 3g network in New York City? Woule likr to hear from someone who is actually using this 3g network.
Does anyone know if the TYTN II works on the new T Mobile 3g network in New York City? Would like to hear from someone who is actually using this 3g network.
it wont work for 3g. att and t-mobile are on separate frequencies that the tilt wont pickup for tmobile's 3g network.
the tilt will only work in 2G.... EDGE and regular GPRS
My phone is not the Tilt it is an HTC branded TYTN II unlocked phone from HTC Hong Kong that I have on T Mobile
useradmn said:
it wont work for 3g. att and t-mobile are on separate frequencies that the tilt wont pickup for tmobile's 3g network.
the tilt will only work in 2G.... EDGE and regular GPRS
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what do you mean the tilt will only pick up 2G..att's tilt is a 3g phone..i have one, but i am on t-mobiles service..i had to unlock the phone to do this first...and i can switch back and forth between 3G and tmobiles edge with the diamond commmanger app....ii just cant use att's 3g because i have a tmobile sim in my phone
Doesn't work.. I'm using TyTN II for NYC T-Mobile.. no 3G
It doesn't work because it uses different FREQUENCIES.
Look at it this way:
You want to call your friend, he has an htc touch. Let's call him, Lenny.
Then you change your mind, and you want to call your other friend, who also has an htc touch. Her name is Michelle.
If you dial Lenny's phone number, you won't get Michelle just because she has the same phone.
ATT 3g and T-mobile 3g are the same TYPE of network, but they use different frequencies. Just like Lenny and Michelle have the same phone, but different phone numbers.
Make sense now?
The TYTN II and it's Variants were not designed to operate on the frequency that T-mobile 3g operates on.
useradmn said:
it wont work for 3g. att and t-mobile are on separate frequencies that the tilt wont pickup for tmobile's 3g network.
the tilt will only work in 2G.... EDGE and regular GPRS
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lets break this down a bit better for him so that he may undertand your post.
"it wont work for 3g. "(That is a period for a very short sentence, and he meams )
It won't work on tmobile 3g.
"att and t-mobile are on separate frequencies that the tilt wont pickup for tmobile's 3g network."
This one is more straight forward now that you have a better version of the first sentence.
It should go something like this
It won't work on the Tmobile 3g because att and and tmobiles frequencies for 3g are totally different from each other and the tilt doesn't support the tmobile one (as you know it supports the att one), BUT it does support edge and gprs..
Can the radio in the TYTN be changed to the new T Mobile frequency.whats there now is 1900/2100 and needs to be 1700/2100.
leon sprouse said:
Can the radio in the TYTN be changed to the new T Mobile frequency.whats there now is 1900/2100 and needs to be 1700/2100.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390575
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Any one else here using the HTC Diamond on Rogers network here in Canada?
I just purchased my Diamond a few days ago to replace my HTC 3600P. My 3600P connected to Rogers 3G network perfectly fine and I was able to get broadband speeds.
Now, with the Diamond I can only get GPRS (G icon on the phone) and Edge (E icon on the phone).
I am not sure if this had anything to do with it, but unlike the 3600P, when first setting up the Diamond it ask if I wanted the phone to auto detect the network and auto configure the phone. I selected yes.
In the phone settings under network tab, the network selection is set to Automatic. Under the Band tab, both select your network type and select your GSM/UMTS band is set to auto.
is my phone setup correctly, or is it that the Diamond doesn't work with Rogers 3G network only GPRS/EDGE? If this is the case now, could a ROM update fix this?
I really need broadband speeds on my work and am seriously considering returning the phone, as I specially asked the store I purchased it from here in Toronto if it would work on Rogers 3G network like my HTC 3600P and they said yes.
Current Diamond models (EU and Asia) do NOT support North American 3G bands. There was some talk from Rogers that the 900MHz band would be support but for now GPRS is as fast as you will get with your Diamond.
Just to add confirmation to what NikoL has said.
No 3G with the Diamond on Rogers.
Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated!
My question now is will my ASIAN/UK diamond ever work on Roger's 3G network? If yes, any idea how long this will take?
I really need broadband speed on my mobile phone for work. I still have my HTC 3600P which works fine on the Rogers 3G.
I am trying to justify keeping the phone or returning it.
Worth holding on to?
SkankAgent said:
Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated!
My question now is will my ASIAN/UK diamond ever work on Roger's 3G network? If yes, any idea how long this will take?
I really need broadband speed on my mobile phone for work. I still have my HTC 3600P which works fine on the Rogers 3G.
I am trying to justify keeping the phone or returning it.
Worth holding on to?
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To be honest buddy, it all depends on Rogers if they support that band that your missing. If they arent going to enable it on their network then you will never get 3G on the Diamond that you have now. So its a 50-50 chance they may or may not...probably better off asking them if you ring them. Im sure they will tell you if they have any intentions of enabling that band on their network.
Now if it was me, id return it and wait for the North American version which should be released next month hopefully. But this is me personally...im in the UK and i couldnt live without 3G myself...blazing fast on my nokia n95 8gb which i sold and at the moment im having to make do with GPRS because my nokia 8600 luna only does GPRS.
SkankAgent said:
Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated!
My question now is will my ASIAN/UK diamond ever work on Roger's 3G network? If yes, any idea how long this will take?
I really need broadband speed on my mobile phone for work. I still have my HTC 3600P which works fine on the Rogers 3G.
I am trying to justify keeping the phone or returning it.
Worth holding on to?
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What are you doing that requires 3g?
Edge and GPRS don't imped stuff like email sync, syncml, or minor web browsing.
If you need to use remote access like RPD or UVNC then sell the phone. Roger's isn't about to turn on 900mhz as that requires changing the match on existing infrastructure. It makes far more sense for them to push toward LTE tech rather then waste it on whats going out.
citats said:
What are you doing that requires 3g?
Edge and GPRS don't imped stuff like email sync, syncml, or minor web browsing.
If you need to use remote access like RPD or UVNC then sell the phone. Roger's isn't about to turn on 900mhz as that requires changing the match on existing infrastructure. It makes far more sense for them to push toward LTE tech rather then waste it on whats going out.
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I work in the streaming media industry, hence I definately require broadband on my mobile phone/device.
For now, I guess I will keep using my HTC P3600 which works perfectly fine on Rogers 3G and hope that the north amercian version of the Diamond will support Rogers 3G or on the tail end, that a ROM update for the Asian verision will 'turn on' the required freq to support Roger's 3G.
SkankAgent said:
I work in the streaming media industry, hence I definately require broadband on my mobile phone/device.
For now, I guess I will keep using my HTC P3600 which works perfectly fine on Rogers 3G and hope that the north amercian version of the Diamond will support Rogers 3G or on the tail end, that a ROM update for the Asian verision will 'turn on' the required freq to support Roger's 3G.
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I would imagine the N American version of the Diamond would support 3G in Canada...as for a rom update to enable the asian version that you have now to use 3G??..i doubt it very much as its a hardware issue. The diamond you have is missing that 3G attenna.
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I would imagine the N American version of the Diamond would support 3G in Canada...as for a rom update to enable the asian version that you have now to use 3G??..i doubt it very much as its a hardware issue. The diamond you have is missing that 3G attenna.
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You are correct about the ROM update. I called HTC Canada and confirmed this with their support department. I guess, I'll be putting my Diamond up for sale on ebay (as my local dealer refuses to take back the phone - last time I'll ever purchase from them, as I specifically asked about it working on Rogerrs prior to purchase) and wait for the North Amercian verision.. or see how the new 3G iphone stands up when it is released here on July 11th.
I have this ATT Tilt. And I have moved to Cyprus this summer but i can not get the 3G work on this other network. The GPRS works but it works so slow. I can connect to 3G network with the new sim card here in Cyprus but it does not work as 3G but like normal GPRS speed.
Is there something done on HTC Kaiser when sold in US for ATT which I need to revert back to factory settings so I can utilize 3G here as well. I mean it works perfectly when I go back to US every month.
I bought my HTC Diamond on UK. I updated the ROM to the RUU_Diamond_HTC_HK_WWE_1.93.831.1 this was supposed to make my phone QuadBand. It does work in USA (Boston) where I live. But I have never seen my phone doing 3G and speed test top was around the 1xx kbps.
Any Ideas?
PS. I am on the ATT network
Are you sure you have 3G coverage in Boston? Do you have a USIM-card (which I was told to be required for UMTS stuff)?
3G speed
I did look at the ATT coverage map and it said that I do have coverage.
How do I know what type of SIM I have? The SIM does have the 3G logo on it.
Are you sure your phone has the bands?
Check the Band setting, Settings->Phone->Band,
in the dropdown box for "Select your GSM/UMTS band", my US 3G ATT phone shows the following options:
Auto
UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900)
(oddly enough, the settings have to be on Auto for the phone to work..)
When I bought my diamond, I was curious about my sim too, so I took it into the ATT store and asked if it was the "latest 3G sim" and he said yes. Mine is half white (top) & half Blue (bottom), with a orange 3G fireball in the topright corner.
If yours matches all that, then take it to the ATT store and see if you get 3G in the store
Also..if you have doubts, I've had multiple Sales reps in the store tell me I can get a new Sim for free at any time, just need to ask.
3G
I do have that SIM half blue half white with the 3G fireball logo.
On my select network I have
Auto
GSM
WCDMA
on the GSM/UMTS band I have
Auto
UMTS(900+2100)+GSM(900+1800)
UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900)
UMTS(800+2100)
UMTS(850+2100)+GSM(900+1800)
UMTS(850)+GSM(900+1800)
UMTS(1700)
rpassmore
What ROM do you have?
RUU_Diamond_HTC_Europe_1.93.401.2
RUU_Diamond_HTC_Europe_1.93.401.2
Does this ROM supports USA 3G????
Sorry for my English
You have the European version and have only HSDPA 2100 / 900 (3G) and probably ATT works in HSDPA 850 / 1900, if this is the problem, sorry 3G is impossible for you, because is a hard problem, not a soft problem, search in this web there are many post about this. The European is quad band in GSM but not in HSDPA (3G)
CArlos
How about if I use another ROM
If I use another ROM ? would I be able to do 3G?
No I think it's impossible since it's different hardware I believe.
I think the one you have from UK, it only contained HSPA 2100 and US /Canada is using HSPA 850/1900, that's why you don't have the 3G signal.
Quad band only for voice and EDGE.
cmilian said:
rpassmore
What ROM do you have?
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I'm using the stock rom/radio for the Unlocked US 3G.
1.93.422.4 WWE
1.00.25.08
But I missed the fact that you're using a European Diamond. sorry.
is there any conection betwen 3G and front camera....
i think i have an Eropean model from UK Vodafon which has the front camera... but i am not sure about 3G !
????
I picked up the tilt and heard that it doesn't do T-mobile 3G. I live in a VERY covered 3G area and never get it, I'm always on the edge network. when I was on vacation, in another VERY covered 3G area, for one whole day of the 4 I was there I was on 3G all day. my emails and web were way faster. the funny thing is I never left a 2 mile circle and always covered the same spots, but for one day I had 3G and have never seen it since...
so can the tilt be on 3G on the t-mobile network? I know I wasn't roaming cause I cannot roam at all it is not allowed by my sim via the account type I have with t-mobile. Also when I was there I noticed an H showed up once but didn't stay for long and never came back. But right now I am smack in the middle of a fully covered 3G area at home and no 3G, it never even tries...
thanks for any answers.
No. It can not do the T- Mo 3G. I don't know why it would give you 3G signal if you aren't able to roam (are you sure that you didn't just roam on ATT network in that area). I am waiting for the Wing II (HTC Rhodium/Tungsten/Touch Pro II) it will be on T-Mo 3G and it is supposed to come out on July 22 (2 days before my b-day). Maybe you should check it out on another part of this forum.
T-mobile uses a dif radio frequency for their 3g. I think the wiki explains it.
yea I checked out all kinds of info, and knew before hand that it didn't do 3G. I did call t-mobile support and they confirmed that I cannot roam as my sim is locked to t-mobile do to having the flexpay type and the sim is locked to t-mobile only. That is what is weird cause if I try and force ATT with my phone here, it simply will not pick it up. Also the rep said my account showss no roaming at all being used and it actually shows locked on that account page. So I am baffled by this and know I was on t-mobile since I have the 5.99 zone plan and use the proxy hack, and it still used the proxy. Totally confused....
BTW I just got the tilt for a steal and my GF would be real pissed if I asked for a new phone this close to getting this one.
I have a question.If AT&T and T-Mobile both use 1900 for 3g then why can't we get 3g on att?
Tmo US & Att use diff bands for 3G access but same for 2G.You will need to buy a Rogers Dream to use 3G on Att. A Tmobile branded phone is unable to use 3G from another carrier.
att 3g
does it have to be a rogers or a basic unbranded will work
The rom and radio
How does changing the rom affect the radio?Does the rom determine the freq the cell accesses?
the rom effects nothing. the radio effects nothing. the hardware determines what frequencies can be used by the device.
the only way the rom effects anything is if the APNs arent set correctly, but thats a simple fix. however, you cant change the APNs or ANY software on the phone to allow a TMO G1 to use 3G on ATT. Cant happen. If you really want a G1 on ATT, buy a Rogers G1 off ebay.