I have the ATT 8925 and I use it to tether to my laptop.. Normal internet browsing is fine but for downloads of any size or for internet video including Flash it does not.
When downloading I average about 20kb and than anywhere from 1/4-1/2 the way through it just stops and times out.. This happnes on all downloads 100% of the time..
When trying to watch any form of streaming media including flash it will play for a bit and than stop and won't buffer any more of the media. I will have to reload the page and even then it's not guarunteed to work..
I used to have the 8525 and could watching streaming media through orb on my phone and computer with no issues.. So I'm wondering if it's the phone or if its the network.
I live in the north Seattle, WA area and am using Duttys Diamond rom.
Kerensky18 said:
When downloading I average about 20kb
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This sounds like you're on EDGE and not on 3G. The other issues are linked, EDGE throughput and latency are highly dependent on network usage as data has low priority. If someone needs to use the tower you're on to place a call, that can put your connection on hold for minutes.
I've had to use my phone as only internet access for nearly 2 months, no 3G coverage where I live so I do know well enough what to expect... and would gladly do without it!
I am on the 3.5g network and HDSPA as well.. I notice a huge difference when I go back to edge in just page loading times.. Like I said page loading works fine.. everything else is crap.
My first suggestion would be to try flashing a different radio. I tether frequently with my Tilt, and I have not experienced these issues on AT&T's 3G network. My tethered speeds regularly exceed 1mbps.
On a side note: Make sure the proxy box is unchecked under MEdia Net, if that is what you are using to tether.
The box was checked... I'll see if it makes a difference when I tether again tonight.
Heres the specs using speedtest while on the 3g Network
IP Address: 32.157.xx.xxx (AT&T GLOBAL NETWORK SERVICES)
Last Test Date: 7/6/2008
Total Tests Taken: 1
Fastest Download: 96 kb/s
Fastest Upload: 112 kb/s
Average Download: 96 kb/s
Average Upload: 112 kb/s
I still have some issues when I go to stream or download where it will get like 30% through and than just time out indefinatly.
Kerensky18 said:
Heres the specs using speedtest while on the 3g Network
IP Address: 32.157.xx.xxx (AT&T GLOBAL NETWORK SERVICES)
Last Test Date: 7/6/2008
Total Tests Taken: 1
Fastest Download: 96 kb/s
Fastest Upload: 112 kb/s
Average Download: 96 kb/s
Average Upload: 112 kb/s
I still have some issues when I go to stream or download where it will get like 30% through and than just time out indefinatly.
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what is the signal strength like? the more bars your have the stronger your connection...therefore the faster your speeds.
Full signal strength.
Could this be some configurations issues? The network in the Pacific region? My plan it self?
Edit:
My page-loads are slower with proxy server off. I can try posting videos if you wish?
Removing the proxy did enable the weather plugin in Dutty's build to operate correctly.
Check out one of my earlier posts. I ran a test from Speedtest.net and listed my results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2277804&postcount=5
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Check out one of my earlier posts. I ran a test from Speedtest.net and listed my results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2277804&postcount=5
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I will try that radio when I have a chance to dl it tonight.
So I talked to ATT yesterday and they said it may be due to all the buildings in Seattle that the signal even if it's reporting full bars can still be degrading from bouncing around the buildings? Is this true?
Using this radio Radio
This is the result of my new speed test
Doing some more testing I'm finding out some more things.
1) My ping fluctuates between 200ms-700ms.
2) My ul is usually greater than my downstream.
3) A lot of times it says my test is originating in California.
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Doing some more testing I'm finding out some more things.
1) My ping fluctuates between 200ms-700ms.
2) My ul is usually greater than my downstream.
3) A lot of times it says my test is originating in California.
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Whenever I run a speedtest from my work or home PC, I always get routed to the NYC test server. But when I tether and run the test, it wants to route to to somewhere in the Midwest. I just override it and select the NYC server, so I would suggest you manually select the server closest to your physical location.
Have a look at my work's internet connection... minus the company name.
I still average speeds between 95-300ish.
I talked again with ATT today and verified I have the 3.5g network where I am.. I'm actualy in the heart of the network. They recomended changing the device. Now I just need to know how to get it back to the default radio, rom and spl.
Kerensky18 said:
I talked again with ATT today and verified I have the 3.5g network where I am.. I'm actualy in the heart of the network. They recomended changing the device. Now I just need to know how to get it back to the default radio, rom and spl.
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Hi:
It's in the WIKI.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
I have never flashed my phone, so I am not an expert in that sense, but I believe that thread will give you the info you need
I found that thank you.. I'm still trying a few different radios with varying results though. I don't think I will replace my device I'm not that happy with it anyhow. I want the touch-pro when it comes out.
I finally got the speeds up to what they are supposed to be. I'm using Nikki radio 1.65.24.36
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Just out of curiosity, How fast does your Kaiser (tethered, DUN or ICS) download from the internet?
I felt pretty privileged that on Black Friday I was able to watch net-flicks over the internet via my Kaiser. Are you so lucky? Do you have an internet speed horror story? Are your pings reasonable?
ATT- Orlando FL (DUN)
HSPDA/3G - 250ms avg pings to google.com (~2.3 mbit/s)
EDGE - 500-10000 pings to google.com (~0.5-15k/s)
Phoenix 1.03 with recommend radio
Please give your general location, band, mobile operator, speed and avg pings to a large low latency site. Also radio, rom and any other information you think might be useful.
Give it a test an let us know: http://www.speedtest.net.
Well I'm not sure about the pings, but...
T-Mobile...Edinburg, TX (deep south tx)
EDGE...avg from 20 kb/s to as high as 27 kb/s while connected to my desktop via ICS and using a torrent app
PDA Ultimate v12 with Polaris Radio 1.59.44.02
Using epc.tmobile.com instead of wap.voicestream.com
Lexington, KY - 2.5 Mbit down, 300k up, 250 ms average with WiFi -ICS connection (WMWifiRouter)
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USB - ICS connection 1 Mbit down, 300k up, 156 ms average google.com
I did not test edge speeds
Edge Speedtest.net I get about 800k down and 300 up
3G Speedtest.net I get about 1.2MB down and 1 up
HSDPA I typically get about 2.5 down, not sure about the up.
Oh, and that's with WMWiFiRouter. Not sure about the USB connection as I typically felt that it SUCKS.
Highly Sub Par for HSDPA here
I did some speed testing while using Internet Connection Sharing the other day and the best I could get was a download speed of around 100 kB/sec and upload of around 43 kB/sec - far slower that I was expecting given I'm only half a mile or so from the networks cell tower and receive a very good 3 or 4 bar H signal. Note that these are kilo Bytes per sec as displayed by the speed test application and Internet Explorer when later file downloading (not kilo bits).
Flying Kiwi said:
I did some speed testing while using Internet Connection Sharing the other day and the best I could get was a download speed of around 100 kB/sec and upload of around 43 kB/sec - far slower that I was expecting given I'm only half a mile or so from the networks cell tower and receive a very good 3 or 4 bar H signal. Note that these are kilo Bytes per sec as displayed by the speed test application and Internet Explorer when later file downloading (not kilo bits).
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Test your speed here: http://www.speedtest.net
Watch out for passing slugs!
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Test your speed here: http://www.speedtest.net
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For 'consistency' sake I tried this website (they even had a server about 5 miles from where I am) but the results were even worse than I expected: 153 kb/s download and 274 kb/s upload with a ping time of 185 ms. This thing is supposed to go up to 3.6 Mbps download speed (according to HTCs website specs) so something isn't right.
http://www.speedtest.net
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I if you are using this website I would recommend the Chicago, New York or San José severs. These are the closest to the main internet routers and always provide me with the best speeds. I can almost always max out my connect to Chicago. I live in Orlando, and I cant even get a good ping to my local server.
I reach full 3.6mbit speeds, with pings as low as 80ms to Google (speedtest was 120 IIRC)
T-Mobile Netherlands
Business 'total internet' package
I ran a speed test at mobilespeedtest.com and got this
I think its way too good to be true, is anyone else at this speed?
kylez64 said:
I ran a speed test at mobilespeedtest.com and got this
I think its way too good to be true, is anyone else at this speed?
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If it goes through a proxy it will screw things up. I once did a GPRS test (on an SE W580i) and got 40kbps with the SE browser. On opera mini it would tell me I was on 56MB
I did the test off and on now with around the same results
it says compared to other isps its about 9 times faster, i thought for sure there was an error, or just extremely lucky.
kylez64 said:
I did the test off and on now with around the same results
it says compared to other isps its about 9 times faster, i thought for sure there was an error, or just extremely lucky.
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try some other speed test site
mobilespeedtest.com says my 3g speed is 11907 Kbps oO
lukluk says my max speed is 619 Kbps
Xtreme lab's speedtest app says my d/l speed is 447 Kbits/s
speed testing - the badass way
Okay if you want to do this right, first turn off any compression you may have enabled in Connections. Tether up a laptop with wmwifirouter (grab a trial). Might as well turn up your wifi strength on the phone but that may not matter. On the computer make sure you've got no crap running in the background that uses bandwidth including IM and p2p obviously on either the phone or the computer. Fire up a browser and do multiple tests from multiple servers on http://speakeasy.net/speedtest.
When you're done, for good measure, repeat but tethering through usb not wifi. I believe wifi may be faster than wifi and it does matter when you're testing a connection with possible but very unlikely throughput in the neighborhood of six bonded T1 lines.
Doug
edit: Sometimes carriers and ISPs cheat on their customers' bandwidth testing by packet bursting, shaping, throttling and proxy tricks. Since you're seeing insane (and most likely erroneous) speed results and if you want to bother getting to the bottom of this, in addition or instead of doing what I said, tether up with your computer, install this little simple bandwidth meter (on the computer) which I attached and download this 256.5MB copy of OpenBSD from this mirror on your computer:
ftp://filedump.se.rit.edu/pub/OpenBSD/4.5/amd64/install45.iso
And watch your bandwidth meter. Also fire up your best stopwatch and clock the full download and do some math to get the speed.
While you're at it figure out a way to upload a >10MB file somewhere and clock that too. Be advised your throughput testing may be confounded by the time of day and your carrier's network saturation in addition to your signal strength which might vary if you've got your laptop screen in between your phone and the path to the nearest tower.
Wow I guess I turned this into a big project.
edit: if you don't have access to another machine or are too lazy to do the tethering thing at least use dslreports/mspeed to download a 1MB test as opposed to mobilespeedtest.com's 512KB.
d0ugie said:
Okay if you want to do this right, first turn off any compression you may have enabled in Connections. Tether up a laptop with wmwifirouter (grab a trial). Might as well turn up your wifi strength on the phone but that may not matter. On the computer make sure you've got no crap running in the background that uses bandwidth including IM and p2p obviously on either the phone or the computer. Fire up a browser and do multiple tests from multiple servers on http://speakeasy.net/speedtest.
When you're done, for good measure, repeat but tethering through usb not wifi. I believe wifi may be faster than wifi and it does matter when you're testing a connection with possible but very unlikely throughput in the neighborhood of six bonded T1 lines.
Doug
edit: Sometimes carriers and ISPs cheat on their customers' bandwidth testing by packet bursting, shaping, throttling and proxy tricks. Since you're seeing insane (and most likely erroneous) speed results and if you want to bother getting to the bottom of this, in addition or instead of doing what I said, tether up with your computer, install this little simple bandwidth meter (on the computer) which I attached and download this 256.5MB copy of OpenBSD from this mirror on your computer:
ftp://filedump.se.rit.edu/pub/OpenBSD/4.5/amd64/install45.iso
And watch your bandwidth meter. Also fire up your best stopwatch and clock the full download and do some math to get the speed.
While you're at it figure out a way to upload a >10MB file somewhere and clock that too. Be advised your throughput testing may be confounded by the time of day and your carrier's network saturation in addition to your signal strength which might vary if you've got your laptop screen in between your phone and the path to the nearest tower.
Wow I guess I turned this into a big project.
edit: if you don't have access to another machine or are too lazy to do the tethering thing at least use dslreports/mspeed to download a 1MB test as opposed to mobilespeedtest.com's 512KB.
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well I did this and got around 1-2 mbps witch is still very good for me
one can always dream though lol
Has anyone else had trouble with loading web pages occassionally on T-Mobile's data connection?
Every once in awhile, web pages simply won't load, and I get the "This Page Cannot Be Displayed" error. It seems like I have to close all my tabs and then open a page to get it working again. This "glitch" or whatever it is, doesn't happen on WiFi, but has happened numerous times on the data connection.
Is this happening to anyone else??? It's like T-Mobile is trying to throttle the connection or something... I haven't used THAT much data
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Has anyone else had trouble with loading web pages occassionally on T-Mobile's data connection?
Every once in awhile, web pages simply won't load, and I get the "This Page Cannot Be Displayed" error. It seems like I have to close all my tabs and then open a page to get it working again. This "glitch" or whatever it is, doesn't happen on WiFi, but has happened numerous times on the data connection.
Is this happening to anyone else??? It's like T-Mobile is trying to throttle the connection or something... I haven't used THAT much data
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I have noticed this too, but when I look I usually have dropped to Edge from 3G. I think it has more to do with the 3G signal than the device itself. Possibly issues with your location the construction of the building you are in overhead fluorescent light, all of those might factor into the dropping signal. Just a theory.
I was pulling some CRAZY download speeds on mobile speed test website.
I was actually getting 25 Mb down consistently... With a 7 Mb sample size and about 5 different tests on 3G! The phone was blazing fast at the time too.
When I got home on wifi my speeds were back to normal - around 9 Mb.
I wonder if they were doing some network upgrades in Princeton NJ today?
Pretty crazy, and while it may have been the speed test was whacky, I really don't think it could've have been wrong on that many separate tests.
Anyway, that's my input. I think data has been good.
pittphan said:
I was pulling some CRAZY download speeds on mobile speed test website.
I was actually getting 25 Mb down consistently... With a 7 Mb sample size and about 5 different tests on 3G! The phone was blazing fast at the time too.
When I got home on wifi my speeds were back to normal - around 9 Mb.
I wonder if they were doing some network upgrades in Princeton NJ today?
Pretty crazy, and while it may have been the speed test was whacky, I really don't think it could've have been wrong on that many separate tests.
Anyway, that's my input. I think data has been good.
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Yea, speed is no issue. I get 9 or 10 Mbps download speeds regularly. The problem is as I described, once in a while pages simply refuse to load, and I basically have to restart the browser. You have never experienced that? Thanks to the other user for your feedback, that might be true about it switching from 3G to Edge, I'll try to pay attention to that the next time it happens.
yeah, i got the issue you mentioned earlier this afternoon. hitting the refresh button doesn't seem to help either.
On several occasions, I've struggled to get a decent data connection, despite there being an apparent signal. Turning the data off and back on again in settings->mobile network has fixed it, but it is frustrating.
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yeah, i got the issue you mentioned earlier this afternoon. hitting the refresh button doesn't seem to help either.
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Yep. well it's good to know that others are experiencing it. I don't believe it is a problem with T-Mobile's network, since my old WinMo phone worked just fine. I wonder if people on ATT have this issue, cause I would say it is something that needs to be fixed in Windows Phone in general. I'll post the question in their Samsung Focus forums.
I usually do not have any problems with the data on my device.
But one thing I have noticed that is happening frequently on my phone was... It gets stuck in 'G' (which I think is GPRS, worst than Edge). After a bit of analysis, I have realized, that when I get into and out of a tunnel (I take a subway to work), at times, my device does not get the 3G and stuck in G.
But once I reboot the phone, I am back to full signal.
Again, this DOES NOT always happen. Only once in a while.
On the whole I am actually VERY HAPPY with the data speeds. I was actually amazed to see how Netflix app was streaming movies seamlessly on my device with out any hiccups even while passing through areas where the coverage fluctuates from 3G to Edge and back.
conection
hi all, I have the following problem: buy a t-mobile hd7 released, I need to manually configure the 3G connection and I have that option. I live in Argentina and so far with my previous phones had no problems (hd2 htc, htc desire, xperia x10) thanks
I have noticed this issue too and I don't think it's t-mobile but on a positive note the web pages load up very fast.
Alright Guys My ISP is Clearwire and i have the no preset download cap and 1mb upload cap. Know its satellite but on my modem i have usually 4 out of 5 bars.
I Live in Fort worth and on speedtest.net it thinks Dallas server is closer haha.
My speed test 1 Dallas Server i live in Ft. Worth
My Speed Test 2 Oklahoma Server
My Speed Test 3 Ft. Worth Server
My problem is when i play black ops on my ps3 i usually get 1 to 2 bars and im hard wired into router and it says i have NAT type is strict or moderate. shouldn't it be open seeing how im hard wired into router?
What can i do to not have this issue? my only options for internet are att and clear and i had att and it was worse than clear. could it be issues with my settings on my computer? any help is appreciated
Also when i actually go and download files i never hit that speed the highest i can hit is 700KB/s and when im supposed to be getting 3 to 6MB/s
Have a look at your ISP Terms and Conditions and their own forums if they have any. Otherwise find forums specific to broadband. It's possible you have a technical issue... it's equally possible that your ISP throttles certain traffic.
If you are getting a certain speed using speedtest, but less with other things, it might point to throttling. What downloads have you tried to test this? Try a simple http download like a file from Google Docs for instance. You may find this running as fast as your speetest result, while bittorrent traffic could be slow.
You should contact your ISP too and see what they have to say about it.
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Have a look at your ISP Terms and Conditions and their own forums if they have any. Otherwise find forums specific to broadband. It's possible you have a technical issue... it's equally possible that your ISP throttles certain traffic.
If you are getting a certain speed using speedtest, but less with other things, it might point to throttling. What downloads have you tried to test this? Try a simple http download like a file from Google Docs for instance. You may find this running as fast as your speetest result, while bittorrent traffic could be slow.
You should contact your ISP too and see what they have to say about it.
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Okay i have contacted them and their retarded to say the least they told me to turn my modem in a circle are you kidding me i did everything they said and nothing ever works. and when i download anything it averages around 300-500kbps
Have a look here:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/clearwire
Maybe there's something there that can help. I'm seeing a lot of Clearwire hate around. Any other options in your area?
DirkGently1 said:
Have a look here:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/clearwire
Maybe there's something there that can help. I'm seeing a lot of Clearwire hate around. Any other options in your area?
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ATT there worse and i was talking to them they have a 6mb connection but its cut in half as advertised
I'm not sure what the situation is, I've tried different radios but it seems like my download speed fluctuates from 100 kbps to 3 mbps downspeed but upload stays at a constant 1 mbps.
Radio is 20.2811.30.085AU_3805.09.03.27_M
Kernel 2.6.35.14-UNITY-V9
ROM Virtuous Unity v2.39.0
Anyone get the same thing? It's weird wifi works perfectly fine.
Data speeds vary depending on a few factors:
1. Your radio.
2. People transferring data on the same network/tower as you
3. Your signal strength.
4. Applications running data transfers in the b/g
5. Bandwidth limitations of the websites servers your downloading from.
6. Many more randoms (weather, website traffic, interference)
As for your upload speed your carrier has a cap on that so your not being data whore.
I should have been a little more specific with my situation
I'll run multiple speed tests with speedtest.net and one may come out at 1 mbps another will come out at 300~ kpbs and another will come out 3 mpbs. I honestly find it hard to believe bandwidth available within the network can fluctuate so quickly. My signal strength is full bars constant, no applications are running in the background when running the speedtest. I'm supposing it could be my radio that's going bad? I'm not sure :X Trying to update to the radio Radio 20.4802.30.0822U_3822.10.08.28_M ran it through bootloader and it gets to parsing the file but after that nothing. Any ideas? I've edited the text file to fit my bell incredible s and I'm on eng s off. Hmm...
Trust me data will go up and down like crazy.