Formula 1 - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Right, im off to silverstone this weekend but got a quick F1 related WM question.
For other races this season I've watched the times during the testing and qualifying off the formula1.com site and for the testing ive watched the live tv stream from ITV.com.
Now obviously as im there this could be an issue as im not taking my laptop with me so wondered if theres anyway of viewing these streams/times on my VarioII?
Anyone ever tried this as im doubting pocket internet explorer will do the job :S

Here's a freeware called F1 Mobile Season 2008, it gives you pretty good info on the circuits, drivers, time etc...
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-f1-mobile-season-2008-v3-03.html
Streaming F1 on my phone... boy would i love that

I was there for the test session last week, watch out for those die hard Button fans...

hmm just found out that http://www.itv-f1.com/VideoLive.aspx is the url for ITV's live stream but cant see that that will work on PIE... dont think im that lucky lol

GO LOUIS!!!!
You might try feeding that ASPX file to CorePlayer and see if it works. Unfortunately there is no trial for it. I had been using Coreplayer to stream video from my Windows Media Center and it worked OK. I really needed HDSPA for it to stream well tho.

I've had great luck with my Slingbox and my Kaiser. Managed to watch the last couple of holes at the US Open from my desk and was VERY popular with my co-workers, LOL.
The beauty of Slingbox is that the content is from your own cable or satellite service that you already paid for. So for your lucky Europeans with the high tech F1 coverage, it'll be just like you're watching at home. No subscriptions, just ~$150 USD for the box and ~$30 for the Pocket PC player.
http://www.slingmedia.com/

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Kaiser: Best Purchase of my life

I have been absolutely thrilled with my Kaiser II so far. It does everything I could possibly want!. I will list here all the wicked awesome things that I do with my Kaiser. There is so much talk of trading in our phones that I wouldn't mind hearing some other positive view points.
I can listen to podcasts / music
I can watch Movies/TV episodes with superb quality using the lastet video player from core.
The amount of games I have an this thing is mind blowing, I think Im around 20-25 kickass games!
Getting on the internet! Ive never owned a labtop or smartphone before so its a luxury for me to browse the net at school.
Reading the news!! I love being able to read RSS streams with my phone.
Reading books! I can read ebooks easily with this!
Im never bored with my Kaiser around!
Sweet =) I'm happy for you, really am (no sarcasm implied).
I love it too actually... for some reason none of my previous PDAs (casiopeia, ipaq, wizard..) interested me enough to sit all day long with them trying different things. Kaiser is just... so ... I dunno, advanced? complex? with all its little problems and cool features.. you keep exploring it and using it, and trying all the different things and combinations.. seeing what it can do and what it can't.. and how to "teach" it to do it..
It's a fun toy, whatever the case =)
I moved to the Tilt from a Palm Treo 650. It was a big advance from the phone I once made love to (treo).
You might bring some sanity to your (soon to be) new friend "bronx"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362187
DarkDvr said:
Sweet =) I'm happy for you, really am (no sarcasm implied).
I love it too actually... for some reason none of my previous PDAs (casiopeia, ipaq, wizard..) interested me enough to sit all day long with them trying different things. Kaiser is just... so ... I dunno, advanced? complex? with all its little problems and cool features.. you keep exploring it and using it, and trying all the different things and combinations.. seeing what it can do and what it can't.. and how to "teach" it to do it..
It's a fun toy, whatever the case =)
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Same here. I used to have an iPAQ hw6515 and it was a very utilitarian device for me. It kept me organized, and with TomTom it kept me from getting lost (most of the time) The memory was lacking on that device so I never tried anything cool like specialized Today screens, (for fear I might slow it down even more) and with only EDGE data on the iPAQ I only got the information I absolutely needed right now on the internet. With the ample memory, and the blazing fast internet on my Tilt I can do so much more, and I do find myself "playing" with it quite often. Hands down the best phone I've ever had, I even rank my satisfaction with the Tilt higher than what I experienced with my Moto StarTac and V60 in their time. I remember I absolutely loved my StarTac, I felt like Captain Kirk with it... Now with my Tilt I have a converged device. My Communicator and my Tricorder have been merged togeather into this fantastic little device.
-Jay
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StarTac, I felt like Captain Kirk with it...
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Hahaha, yeah!! I remember StarTac... man that was a cool phone at the time!! It couldn't do crap, but it was so cool looking haha... I thought how much better can a cell phone get... lol
Me too!!
I've had various phones in the past, not pda's as they've never really excited me. I tried a SE P990 in a desperate attempt to get some more functionality from my phone...yuk, not a good choice.
I haven't had my Kaiser long but I've not stopped playing with it since it arrived. It's replaced my ipod too now that I have a BT stereo headset (and for the record that works perfectly, I believe many have had problems). Just need to sort out video on it and I don't think I'll ever change it.
Even my misses thinks its a cool phone so thats gotta be saying something.
Just wait until you start flashing it, then the fun really begins
I went along the same path, coming off of a CDMA treo 650. When I first got the treo, that is exactly how I felt about the purchase. It did everything I wanted and more. GPS was huge for me, despite requiring an external BT receiver. Once using a smartphone/convergence device there was no turning back for me.
Upgrading to the tilt just made things sweeter - integrated gps, SDHC support, and the big one that the treo lacked - WIFI.
grizzley said:
I moved to the Tilt from a Palm Treo 650. It was a big advance from the phone I once made love to (treo).
You might bring some sanity to your (soon to be) new friend "bronx"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362187
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Hahaha, yeah!! I remember StarTac... man that was a cool phone at the time!! It couldn't do crap, but it was so cool looking haha... I thought how much better can a cell phone get... lol
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I had the Captain Kirk-esqe way of opening the StarTac with a flick of my wrist. I was never able to get my V60, V551 or V3 to open like that. The flips were too tight on the other models. So what do you think of my vision of a converged communicator and tricorder being the Tilt?
-Jay
My first Pocket PC was ipaq 3970 and loved it then when I got my HTC Blue Angel it was like falling in love lol
Wasn't too impressed with M3100 after the BlueAngel but once i got my kaiser all i can say is WOW!
Regards
MM
PS Hope you enjoyed my tale of Love lol!
PPS Dont tell my Mrs too be!
I'm another Kaiser's lover!
My first pda was the ipaq 6915 (now in the hands of mum ) and i tought it was almost the top...
but when i tryed the Tytn II, during a trip in Oporto...it was love at first sight!
And now i'm proud to be a Tytn II owner
Here are some more fun things I do (and you can do) with your Kaiser:
Work on word, ppt, excel documents.
Listen to music (MP3 player).
Listen to XMRadio (if you are a subscriber).
Watch TV (using a Slingbox at home).
Use it to navigate (Iuse NAV4ALL).
Display satellite imagery at your location while hiking and off-roading.
Tether your laptop and watch Dr. Who episodes (Netflix) while camping.
Listen to Neal Bortz on AM750 WSB even when a thousand miles from home (webcast).
Store and read PDF manuals for all your toys.
Transfer files between work and home computers.
Get push email from both work and home.
Oh yeah, every now and then people actually call me on the thing!
I could go on and on...
Pete
what games do you play?
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Use it to navigate (Iuse NAV4ALL).
Pete
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Can you tell me about your experiences with NAV4ALL? Accuracy and responsiveness on the TYTN II? Any bugs or problems?
Lets see.....
Atari Portolio (Handheld PC XT clone) + Motorola brick + Rand McNally Atlas
Apple Newton + Motorola flip + Rand McNally Atlas
Palm Pilots + Nokia phones + Garmin GPS III
HP Windows CE (multiple) + Nokia phones + Garmin GPS III+
Blackberries (multiple) +Garmin GPS V
Palm Treo 700W + Garmin Rino
HTC TyTn + Garmin Rino
HTC Kaiser.....
Only one charger needed for travel and I'm a happy camper. If there's a connection to be had, I can use it. I seldom take my laptop on road trips anymore. The best part is I haven't retyped my phone book in over 20 years! I wish I'd kept all of those old units... It would make a neat display.
I would not over state "the best purchase of my life"
Even though it offers a lot, our hunger for more,better and faster remains.
Yes, despite it's lack of PMM future, I do like this gadget. Do not get me wrong.
I hardly call it a phone, it just does not make coffee yet. it does offer a lot and with all extra applications and games installed, it is truly amazing and versatile.
I have the (bad) habit to "upgrade"each 3 months (at full charge) So, I found out I bought in the last 18 months some 8 phones including iPhone, Samsung I718,Samsung D 900, Motorola Ming, Moto Razr V8, Tytn I, Tytn II, , combined +5000 US...
None could do what the TytnII promissed too.
I bought the Tytn II having a One-fits-all solution and we are near, very near. if the Cam and Vid would have been Ok, I would claimed it was indeed my best purchase (untill now)
does coretcpmcp work with .wmv local video files?
please advise.
tvos
I recently purchased the iPhone after going through 3 tilts since Oct 25(my bday that's why I remember)...I actually like the iPhone UI better...but the programs go to the tilt
well.. i do too.. i love my kaiser =).. my TyTN II overpriced but works great..
games suck.. well.. emulators... (snes, gba,) but for work.. or homework.. or just calling.. its great..
Another Kaiser Lover
Amen, I agree! I believe the Kaisers been the best purchase I've ever done as well, money worth spent! I know people have been complaining about its Video capabilities, and I know they are right, but the kaiser is just so much more than Video!
One quick question though, what do you guys use to convert DVD's into Kaiser friendly formats? And what settings?!
Agree
Yep
I m proud of my kaiser too...
Its do all what i want..except for the camera/video recording...but its works great in outday at daytime...
and its the best my first PPC and the best PPC i ever had...

Software to watch TV/online stream on HTC Wings

hey everyone,
i have been searching for a software which allows to watch famous tv channels via streaming on the wings.
can anyone recommend a software for streaming movies/tv etc?
and yes, i have unlimited dataplan
thanks
You should be able to go to the networks web sites and stream their show's off of their own site. The phone has a built in streaming player, works pretty well. There are some other players people have posted about on here that work just as good if not better.
As to software that allows you access to the programs that I do not think you will find. All other networks that have access to TV do it through their network, so you launch the TV program on the phone and it connects to their server where its all located. Some Verizon phones here have an antenna to pick OTA channels but quality as you can guess is low
Best bet like I said is to either download them and watch them on your phone or to stream them from the network web sites....
Unless someone knows something I do not, which happens all the time...
dude wtf is it with u
dont u know pocketstreamer deluxe??? it has everything u talked about as "non-existent".
HOWEVER, i dont like pocketstreamer as the links are mostly broken and invalid/the list tv streams is very limited. im looking for an alternative....
thanks
A.Bagatov said:
HOWEVER, i dont like pocketstreamer as the links are mostly broken and invalid/the list tv streams is very limited. im looking for an alternative....
thanks
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My point exactly, its not as good as what you can get from other providers included with your plan, or from just downloading / streaming them off the net for the same low price of your data plan / storage card size
I dont know of anything worth using that could compair to what I mentioned above, if someone know's a good one thats exilent and I would be interested in knowing too.
I do know of zoovision which has some fun old movies to stream and other stuff but thats not the latest stuff.
I think the softwares to watch TV are dead now. Especially because now you can watch TV directly online in some website like http://www.inner-live.com
This one looks nice:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/smartphone/online/?en
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hey everyone does any one knows how i can i get a theme for my wing so it could look like a iphone can any one tell me how i can get it free download. i just got my wing i dont know how to.
luigy781 said:
hey everyone does any one knows how i can i get a theme for my wing so it could look like a iphone can any one tell me how i can get it free download. i just got my wing i dont know how to.
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This is a thread about streaming video, there's a few theme threads around this forum, a search for those would yield a good place to ask.
As to your question the iPhones screen is rather large compaird to how small ours is so you wont get many icons on it, and you will have to navigate through them with the D-Pad which you might not like. That said back when this phone first came out a few people were talking about some but never really got them to function properly.
Now you can imitate aspects of the iPhone such as this but that one is just generic.
does it mean that when you install spb dat it will take over everything or is it just a program dat je can run
Try this one Mobile Online TVx.
800+ TV channels
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676846

Hava player for android

I ahve a hava platinum HD it will "sling" video to like 1 internet connection and 2 locals (I think, dont hold me to these numbers) I know it takes more connections than the comperably priced slingbox, I got mine used on fleabay for like 50$ it would be nice to controll my 500+ channel 250 hours SA2 tivo hak'd to the ma'x, and Id love to serve it up to my g1 in a long line or anywhere else I get bored, which is often.
one exists for the maemo hildon nokia N800 so maybe it wouldnt be a difficult port, it would be very cool and these boxes unlike the sling are very cheap, if HD is just 50$ imagine the deals you could find on a standard def unit, Id also like to see an xbox port of the same player, but thats a whole other discussion board, as it is it streams to PC, smartphone by MS, and windows media and xbox360(i think) so the standard is there to be sniffed if that helps any...
bhang
im in the same boat. i got a hava player a few months back, streamed it great to my old dash. then i got the g1. monsoon said they wont even start to develop a player until they watch the android market for a while to gauge interest..
i hope sling is getting their app out soon.... the petition is only growing
cool Im not the only one
I looked at prices and specs of slings and havas and the hava seemed to be the hands down winner...
if hava wont do it maybe somebody will R.E. it and we will get a hava player for anything we want, thats the reason HAVA needs to do it before the demand gets big, or somebody will want to stream the hava to sumthin they have thats not supported and do it themselves...
that almost sounded like a threat, but it wasn't....
bhang
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an xbox version would be nice too....
dont need it. just install orb onto your pc where you normally watch your hava, and install opera browser on your android device. Set the default stream to 3gp and you can download a stream file that is about 700mb. Works great on my droid, but unfortunately the default media player does not use the full screen. The audio and vid is still great quality and the orb interface (mycast.orb.com) has a great interface for choosing the station you want to stream. I prefer it to the virtual controller of hava actually.
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dont need it. just install orb onto your pc where you normally watch your hava, and install opera browser on your android device. Set the default stream to 3gp and you can download a stream file that is about 700mb. Works great on my droid, but unfortunately the default media player does not use the full screen. The audio and vid is still great quality and the orb interface (mycast.orb.com) has a great interface for choosing the station you want to stream. I prefer it to the virtual controller of hava actually.
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Can you explain how orb changes the channel of the ricochet that's connected to the hava? Thanks
Check this out!
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-applications/7036-hava-android-app.html
Has sold me on android for my next phone.
Now if WM7 gets Zune support...
I've had a Hava for around 2 years now, they say early next year, look for the app a year after that... They rarely hit target dates.
Unofficial Hava Player for Android: It's called Testtube
sites.google.com/site/overvoltagesoft/home/testtube
It's still a little rough around the edges, but it's great someone took it upon themselves to do this.
Spread the word .
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Unofficial Hava Player for Android: It's called Testtube
sites.google.com/site/overvoltagesoft/home/testtube
It's still a little rough around the edges, but it's great someone took it upon themselves to do this.
Spread the word .
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Thank you for this!!!! Just got my At&t Nexus and was thinking about my Hava player... I bought the app on my Iphone and loved it. This is going to be great... will install and give it a shot tonight. Assuming this works over 3G which will be a great advantage to the iphone player
TestTube Android HAVA Player
Search for TestTube on Market. I have a G1 and TestTube works great as a HAVA player on my phone. Setup was a little tricky. I had to port forward port 1778 on my router to my HAVA device. Other tricky piece of the setup was making sure I had the correct HAVA remote control code.
can not find the software anyplace....
Has anyone seen were it went to
I've been using testube for a while, using it for my titanium hd. I just heard that Monsoon Multimidea released the Vulkano app across many platforms and it's backwards compatible with the hava devices as well (not just the new vulkano devices). Its a free app, and though I havent used it yet, its seems just like what we've wanted.
Fellow iphone users have mentioned to me that the Vulkano app does infact work with the old hava devices.
h**p://www.monsoonmultimedia.com/players_android.html
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I've been using testube for a while, using it for my titanium hd. I just heard that Monsoon Multimidea released the Vulkano app across many platforms and it's backwards compatible with the hava devices as well (not just the new vulkano devices). Its a free app, and though I havent used it yet, its seems just like what we've wanted.
Fellow iphone users have mentioned to me that the Vulkano app does infact work with the old hava devices.
h**p://www.monsoonmultimedia.com/players_android.html
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Says it can't locate my wireless Hd. Anyone having any luck with this?
I just installed vulkano player on my sprit EVO 4g an it work fine on wifi and 3g.
I do not hav 4g yet.
You can download player from android market just type monsoon in searchfield and it schows up.
I am using it with hava platinum and the quality is acceptable
same here not working with wireless hd

Qik

Anyone tried Qik? I used it today and it was great. Live web streaming from your Touch Pro or Fuze directly to the internet.
www.qik.com
yes i love it, i use this with Remote tracker so i can see who stole my phone if it was ever stolen. it will also give your location that you can see in the qik website and uploads the current video to there server in real time so if your video taping a cop beating the sh*t out of your friend then he comes after you and breaks your phone, everything up to the break is uploaded to the server in real time .... not that any like that has ever happened to me before
LOL.....I took a video of my 7 year olds bus doing 75 in a 55 on the highway. I emailed them the link while I drove to work and had a call from them by the time I reached my office.
Works great. Posting video was never this easy. But I don't really have all this much inspiration to create videos, so I find I don't use it all that much.

[REQUEST] $200+ in donations for working TV out w/CM.

In the quest for the ultimate device, CM gets pretty close. A bunch of people on the CM forums are chiming in with donations for working TV-out for the Incredible, and I wanted to cross-post it here to hopefully garner some more attention and interest.
The goal here is to have working TV out without compromising any other main functionality (like Bluetooth on Sense ROMs).
Not sure if it's possible at all, but if I can attach my phone to my TV and play SNES with my kids using Wiimotes, I will chip in my $20 bucks, and a bunch of other people will too.
The donation count was up to 160 bucks on CM forums as of the time of this post, and I have 3 friends that will chip in as well.
If it happened, I'd donate. CM already deserves donations, but this would up the amount for sure.
Dude thats sick you can get SNES games on the Incredible than (if) this gets fixed hook it to the TV and play it on the TV using wiimotes... can you use xbox remotes instead, you say that it can be done on sense but you loose bluetooth, so can I hook it to the tv on sense and use a wiimote? or xbox remote if works cos thats what i have lol
i'd chip in if that happens (and before i jump ship and get an Incredible HD lol), absolutely
Dude thats sick you can get SNES games on the Incredible than (if) this gets fixed hook it to the TV and play it on the TV using wiimotes... can you use xbox remotes instead, you say that it can be done on sense but you loose bluetooth, so can I hook it to the tv on sense and use a wiimote? or xbox remote if works cos thats what i have lol
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I'm pretty sure tv out works on other (sense-less) roms, it's just a cyanogenmod issue. Use a different rom & it should work. I know nothing about video game systems past the ps1, so does the xbox 360 have bluetooth controllers? If it does, there should be an app on the market for it.
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Dude thats sick you can get SNES games on the Incredible than (if) this gets fixed hook it to the TV and play it on the TV using wiimotes... can you use xbox remotes instead, you say that it can be done on sense but you loose bluetooth, so can I hook it to the tv on sense and use a wiimote? or xbox remote if works cos thats what i have lol
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The Xbox 360 controllers work via radio, not bluetooth. Just an FYI.
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Dude thats sick you can get SNES games on the Incredible than (if) this gets fixed hook it to the TV and play it on the TV using wiimotes... can you use xbox remotes instead, you say that it can be done on sense but you loose bluetooth, so can I hook it to the tv on sense and use a wiimote? or xbox remote if works cos thats what i have lol
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Why not just get SNES9x for PC and hook up your pc to the tv via HDMI, use a bluetooth dongle to connect the wiimote to the pc for a controller and there you go. Thats what I do
g00s3y said:
Why not just get SNES9x for PC and hook up your pc to the tv via HDMI, use a bluetooth dongle to connect the wiimote to the pc for a controller and there you go. Thats what I do
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thats what i do too, the bluetooth dongle was $2 on amazon and everything else was already in place for me.
I would also chip in $20! It is the only thing that I really miss of HTC Sense.
Bluetooth is required to connect the Wiimote to the phone. The Bluetooth stack on sense roms is a piece of crap and doesn't allow modern protocols.
As for the computer thing, I want to be able to do this in the car, at a friends, or anywhere that doesn't involve lugging around a computer. That's why I have a smartphone.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
From what I read they had to reverse engineer the entire HDMI stack to get HDMI working on the EVO -- I'm guessing they'd have to do the same to get TV-OUT working on the the DInc? Heh... or we could all save up cuz the DInc HD is alleged to be "revealed" on Jan 6th. A device that basically looks like a VzW EVO. ;P
But seriously... I'd give it a go and even help if we had source code. But I don't think you get source code when you reverse engineer...
+1 on this. There's got to be some way to get both bluetooth and TV out functioning on the same rom. The wiimote+tv out idea is pretty much the reason I got the incredible when it came out, only to discover that its now been nearly a year with no solution to this!
I may have to buy a TV-out cable and see if I can get some extra money! LOL!
Go for it!!! (connect 4!!)
I will throw $50 into the pot for whoever gets this working. I know Netflix is not here yet, but I got the DInc so that once it did, I could stream to my TVs, specifically the one in my car.
ericlmccormick said:
I will throw $50 into the pot for whoever gets this working. I know Netflix is not here yet, but I got the DInc so that once it did, I could stream to my TVs, specifically the one in my car.
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AND ericlmccormick, FROM THE AUDIENCE, WITH A STEEL CHAIR!!! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD!!
This donation to make a rom/tweak **** is getting insane. As far as Netflix, they say Android is too insecure of a platform, however a new phone that was just showcased had a NetFlix app icon on the homescreen. Hmmmm.....
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This donation to make a rom/tweak **** is getting insane. As far as Netflix, they say Android is too insecure of a platform, however a new phone that was just showcased had a NetFlix app icon on the homescreen. Hmmmm.....
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I dunno if it's insane so much as it is a small minority of people realizing what it's gonna take to motivate those with the skill to solve the issue. Realistically, I'd bet thousands of people have an incredible in their pockets and don't even know it can do TV out, and will never try even if you told them. Verizon certainly doesn't make much noise about the feature!
And even those of us that are savvy enough to know, might never use it enough to care. How many of us are running CM6.1 right now without feeling any loss of function? Dare I say, enough people that the entire process of making CM run on an incredible went through to the point of being called "stable" without even a hint of that feature being available. I know Im running it....even though I want TV out real bad.
Theres so little steam for this, that unless we can literally "fund" the R&D to make it happen ourselves, it might just disappear as newer phones come out and development stops on the older ones. I remember in april last year being amazed that I had a phone that ran @ 1GHz. I mean, seriously. One [email protected]#$^$& gigahertz. And now, we're *****ing about the thunderbolt because it doesn't have dual cores in it! I can't recall a single year in phones where these kinds of leaps and bounds have been so constant.
The whole world of software is a strange parallel to the music industry, wherein it used to be a giant divide between "local band" and "warner bros gold record". Then we had the internet, and an entire underground revolution took place where artists on the ground level could again get their music to the masses, and since most of the middlemen were removed, it again became possible for the idea of a "modest" living on music to be made. The 10 bucks that someone pays for a vynal is going mostly to the artist, where the 25 you'd spend on a major CD might reach the artist as only 2 dollars. The artist wins, the listeners win, and the same kids who were "sticking it to the man" by downloading major releases turn around and trumpet the virtues of "support your favorite bands!!"
This whole world of phone tweaking is almost like that - for years we were lucky if a company made an app for something, and if they didn't, well, a lot of times it didn't get made. Sure, some people developed for WM, but based strictly on popularity of the platform, I couldn't do half of what I can with my android, even though there isn't a huge difference in hardware. It was also much more difficult to find the guys who made these programs - some of them were made in the 90's and just stayed part of the WM continuum for years after they should have been replaced.
Now we have a whole community based on this android os, and it feels like a lot of the middleman has been cut out of the equation - the "audience" can directly reach the "artist", and through that direct connection, can much more easily justify paying for the efforts made. It's hard to pay 60 bucks for a windows mobile app for GPS, for example, knowing that the developer at the end will see only a few cents of that. But when the price on the google market is only 5 bucks for an app, and you know a large percentage of that is going directly to the guy who put in his time and effort to make the program, it's much easier to swallow that.
When someone writes a program, Torque is a great example, that helps me, I'm willing to give the DEV some funding for it, just like I'm willing to pay for tickets to see a local show.
It's a sort of "golden age of software" that I think many have been waiting for, almost as if we get the virtues of "mom and pop shop" service, with the Walmart pricing we've come to depend on as a society.
Hell, I paid 15 bucks for the cable to make TV out function. After what I've paid for accessories for this phone, and considering I intend to keep it till t breaks, I'm certainly willing to contribute to the guy who finally gets the TV out running like it should. If I was a capable software dev, I'd do it myself. But, I'm not. I am however a mechanic, computer systems admin, musician, live sound engineer, and multitude of other things. And when someone asks for me to solve an issue in one of those areas, well, it's certainly nice to make a little scratch on it!
Sorry about the long rant, I'm drunk. And feverishly hoping someone makes this happen! Last trip I took was 12k miles of driving with no real map, in an overheating van, forgot the CD book at home, with a bunch of guys in the back begging for internet access, and we never ever had a hotel lined up before arriving at a destination. And my phone helped solve 100% of these problems, over and over again. Now if only I could get street fighter on the hotel TV from my phone (and hand a wii controller to my opponent), I could die a happy man!
Nothing but real talk man ^
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