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joey jojo said:
i just have one problem, when typing on my keyboard, sometimes, not all the time, keys stick and after pressing a key i get something like thissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
is this fixable??, is anyone else having this problem???
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I'm having this problem. And the sms delay on writting too. It is a real annoyance 'cause I can not write nice poems to my love anymore. :?
But I think would be better to open another thread. So I'm doing it...
PD: the prooooooooooooooooblemmmmmmmmmmmm with words repeating were showing on 2003SE also....
i also get it but only on wm5
annoyance
c'mon, people, nobody with a solution???
I have the same problem.
Some programs in WM5 tend to take up processor cycles, and appear to be causing the problem.
Problem is, there are MANY possible programs (causes).
For me, the most common cause is Internet Explorer. Go to "Memory" in Settings, and close all tasks. Then try using the keyboard again. If it works, then you know that's the cause. Then, you can try to narrow down the program that's the processor hog.
Good luck!
turn down the repeating speed, it is in start>settings>keyboard>repeat settings. set it low so it will not repeat like that
First of all, thanks for your answers!
TheGadgetGuy said:
Some programs in WM5 tend to take up processor cycles, and appear to be causing the problem.
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Yeah, I thought so, anyway I'm having the same problem on the SMS window. It seems to do a redraw (or better, a recalc) every time I push a letter on my keyboard, and it looses words. Took me 'bout 10 times to get the right number on the 'To:' field. I was always getting +3423888888888 etc...
TheGadgetGuy said:
Go to "Memory" in Settings, and close all tasks. Then try using the keyboard again.
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At no avail. Doesn't work...
obiesoft said:
turn down the repeating speed, it is in start>settings>keyboard>repeat settings. set it low so it will not repeat like that
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I think you mean: start>settings>system>keyboard>Repeats setting
Doesn't work for me either. The sliders are on its lowest position...
Didn't you guys are having this havoc on your devices??
I don't know what is happening with my baby
Any Ideas??
Maybe a little fix.
Also had a problem about the words repeating thing.
But that time my device is downclocked to 299mhz by that time.
I did a soft reset first then overclocked my device to 531mhz.
after writting a message it seem to have improved significantly.(But it still lags
for a second or half sometimes.)and the words repeating seems to be gone.
But im not totally quite sure.Still need to check it more.And tell you how's it going.
O and lastly im just wondering how come it's soo slow to open a message and switch to other messages?Unlike 2003 se which only takes a second or soo......
I'm using pocket hack master to over/downclock my device.
XDAIIS
Re: Maybe a little fix.
Ok, i'll try that....
brentchua said:
Also had a problem about the words repeating thing.
But that time my device is downclocked to 299mhz by that time.
I did a soft reset first then overclocked my device to 531mhz.
after writting a message it seem to have improved significantly.(But it still lags
for a second or half sometimes.)and the words repeating seems to be gone.
But im not totally quite sure.Still need to check it more.And tell you how's it going.
O and lastly im just wondering how come it's soo slow to open a message and switch to other messages?Unlike 2003 se which only takes a second or soo......
I'm using pocket hack master to over/downclock my device.
XDAIIS
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arieltools said:
Yeah, I thought so, anyway I'm having the same problem on the SMS window. It seems to do a redraw (or better, a recalc) every time I push a letter on my keyboard, and it looses words. Took me 'bout 10 times to get the right number on the 'To:' field. I was always getting +3423888888888 etc...
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The reson for the redraw, I think, is the number of characters in the message display at the bottom (i.e 1/168)
If I write an email the redraw problem is not present - if I swith to SMS it comes back...
Yeah, a clever think would be to switch this counter off. I haven't found it on the registry, nor a hack.
My question: if before it was ok, why change it?
Well anyway it is not the only reason for this word repeating problem. It appears on other programs also.
And no solution yet
Haven't had time to try brentchua solution...
ulfthomas said:
arieltools said:
Yeah, I thought so, anyway I'm having the same problem on the SMS window. It seems to do a redraw (or better, a recalc) every time I push a letter on my keyboard, and it looses words. Took me 'bout 10 times to get the right number on the 'To:' field. I was always getting +3423888888888 etc...
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The reson for the redraw, I think, is the number of characters in the message display at the bottom (i.e 1/168)
If I write an email the redraw problem is not present - if I swith to SMS it comes back...
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What worked for me was to turn off the "suggest words when entering text" option. You'll find it in settings - personal - Input -Word completion...
dblfun said:
What worked for me was to turn off the "suggest words when entering text" option...
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Yeah, at the end we will have a very advanced phone capable of doing nothing useful because everything has to be turned off... :evil:
(suggest words, bluetooth, AD2P, Wireless, Video frame problems, slow phone answer, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc :evil: :evil:
stop complaining... if u don't like it just downgrade back to 2003 se and everything will work. You should realise that the blue angel wasn't made for WM5. That it works with WM5 is great...but as long as there is no official release u shouldn't complain..... It's just the way it is...
dblfun said:
stop complaining... if u don't like it just downgrade back to 2003 se and everything will work. You should realise that the blue angel wasn't made for WM5. That it works with WM5 is great...but as long as there is no official release u shouldn't complain..... It's just the way it is...
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1- I'm complaining because this problem was already happening on 2003se (please, read above).
2- After so many problems with bluetooth, AD2P, etc, don't you think we deserve more attention from the ones that sold this devices to us?
3- If I stay on WM5 is because I realize the BA performs just ok on this OS. I'm using it mainly for work purposes.
4- Complaining is also a way of start doing things later. Something has to come first... :!: I've complained to I-mate about this problem when I had the original 2003se. No answer to date. That's why I decide turn back here and do this wonderful upgrades to my device.
What I find is this forums (as all of them in the 'net) are quite hard to search and find answers. Somehow we should find the answers given and put them in a common place (the good answers!!) i.e. the Wiki!
Anyway, what I'm looking for is answers and share them...
etc-.
ad2p
My keyboard problems seems to have almost dissapeared after turning off the word correction option. It seems is a CPU intensive program or so... Inside Word, however, the problem sometimes arises...
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Any ad2p with blueangel and wm5 yet, boys? I can't find anything but this:
http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option...=view&id=6376&catid=26&limit=15&limitstart=45
But it seems there's still problems...
no avail
I´m having again this problem. I´ve done what have been suggested about changing the registry values for adjusting the priority values... still having this problem.
I use the device for writing a lot and any help would be very handy.
Anyone, please?
Thanks!
problem is fixed in newer roms which pagepool size have been increased.
try the AKU3.5 ROMs
Just wondering if anyone else's Tilt is acting up like mine, the keyboard when sending texts will sometimes miss a good bit of key presses and I have to go back 3 or 4 times to register the key.
It worked fine at first so I figured it was something I did so I tried a hard reset and after about 30 minutes it started again.
yup - my keyboard has been crappy since day 1. i often miss key presses and the 'click' feedback isn't there on some presses.
never had a problem with my 8525s - had 3 of them and the keyboard was always flawless.
waiting for a store to get more stock so i can see if have a faulty keyboard.
yeah i have strange problem with my keyboard too. it only seems to be missing key presses for double-letters, like the 'pp' in 'happy' or 'll' in 'hello'. the second letter sometimes doesn't show up.
its strange because typing things like 'apapapapapapa' quickly over and over again, it doesn't seem like any of the letters are getting dropped.
rking84 said:
yeah i have strange problem with my keyboard too. it only seems to be missing key presses for double-letters, like the 'pp' in 'happy' or 'll' in 'hello'. the second letter sometimes doesn't show up.
its strange because typing things like 'apapapapapapa' quickly over and over again, it doesn't seem like any of the letters are getting dropped.
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is this with the AT&T rom? the HTC rom? or both?
this is the at&t rom, without the bloatware installed.
With all the crap that AT&T did to their ROM, I don't know why anybody on here uses it. I had it for half an hour before I couldn't stand it anymore and switched to the HTC ROM.
same bug with german t-mobile rom... its like the device is busy.
unfortunately the same on HTC Tytn II German Rom too.
so is this a defect with the hardware or the software? i dont want to bother exchanging it if it happens on every device.
disable word complete and auto correct and see if it works a little better
did for me
dld
I experience missed key presses but rarely. I do however experience a probelm when using shift quite a bit. If I want to capitalize a letter I hit shift and then type the word, sometimes it will also capitalize the second letter. So Happy would be typed out as HAppy. It's annoying going back to fix it!!!!!!!!!!
RacerX10 said:
disable word complete and auto correct and see if it works a little better
did for me
dld
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Disabling these solved it.
decepticon said:
Disabling these solved it.
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didn't work for me. German HTC ROM. Only happens if double letters are typed quickly. second letter gets lost. it is definitely a bug!
I noticed that the "C" button I have to press harder to get it to work.. I'm going to see if I can have my tilt replaced ..
Just info no solution.
Using HTC shipped ROM
There are two issues outlined: Repeated letter getting missed and Shift causing capitalization of second letter as well as the first.
Issue one I cannot reproduce even with auto correct and word completion set to on. No matter how fast I get the letters in, both letters appear. The implication is that it may be a ROM issue, but also of course may be due to other apps installed. Less likely to be hardware, except in as much as some people may be pressing less firmly for the second letter???
The second issue where after pressing shift two letters instead of the first only are capitalized. I can reproduce this but only under fixed circumstances:
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There needs to be a clear release of the first letter before the second is pressed. So for example if you hit (shift) then an "A" with your left thumb and "L" with your right thumb the both letters will be capitalized if you are still pressing the "A" when you hit the "L". Never will it then give a third capitalized letter because clicking the second letter cancels the (shifT) key.
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If the first letter and the second are very close together say "D" and "E" it is possible to move from one to the other without releasing the first and again both letters will be capitalised.
So in conclusion I think this happens when either the letters are imediately adjacent to each other or if the first letter is not being released fast enough ie before the second one is pressed (easy to do if you are using two fingers to type quickly)
Mike
ya, this is an issue with the kaiser and the tilt (i've owned both). It was the samew ay with the blackjack. This is VERY annoying and i would LOVE to find a fix for it.
Thanks,
re: Mike
thanks for the test. it does seem like it would be a software problem, but i have installed both the att and the cooked rom from the kaiser upgrading forum, and they both have the double-letter problem.
i tried it right after i loaded the cooked rom, so i dont think it would be any software i loaded. and whether auto-correct/word completion on, it happens.
anyone else have any ideas?
alaiwy said:
ya, this is an issue with the kaiser and the tilt (i've owned both). It was the samew ay with the blackjack. This is VERY annoying and i would LOVE to find a fix for it.
Thanks,
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double letter or capitalization issue?
the double letter is the only issue i have with the keyboard and it makes me crazy.
alaiwy said:
the double letter is the only issue i have with the keyboard and it makes me crazy.
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some just posted this in howardforums:
have you tried changing this?
Start->Settings->Buttons->Up/Down Control and make the delay short.
i tried it and it seemed like it made it better? it doesn't seem to refer to the keyboard but it works i think...?
hey ive been having this problem for the past couple days and was wondering if anyone has experianced the same thing or could shed abit of light on it.
basically whenever writing a text, or word document or typing a web address, etc and i click on the letter "w" nothing comes up and the phone crashes, doesnt let me type anything, goes super super slow and doesnt really respond to nething so i have to reset it. this happens when using the "w" on the on screen keyboard and on the pull out keyboard.
i havnt dropped it recently and its in perfect condition, also havnt installed anything recently that may hav caused it. it just seemed to randomly start happening. will have to try a hard reset if theres no other solution, but any ideas would be greatly appreciated?
I would suggest a hard reset. If it is a software error that should do the trick.
But i guess this has something to do with hardware. I had that problem with my wizard. The commanager button caused the device to crash. Once I opened it I found about 1 kg of dust sitting behind the button. Once that was out of the way the device was normal again.
edit: Just try opening the device as a last resort.
here you can find the service manual. Link removed - no longer valid
thanks mate, may try a hard reset then. but i'll leave it till weekend after exams have finished as its quite time consuming installing everything again, etc.
i perhaps should have mentioned that it only crashes if "w" is the first letter i use. if i type something else an then use it, it seems to work. (altho i havnt tested this properly, i'll assume this is usually the case). just seems like a very strange problem to get
anywayz, thank you for ur advice
nice screen name Is this a stock ROM or a cooked one? maybe the keyboard fix would correct it?
fade2black said:
nice screen name Is this a stock ROM or a cooked one? maybe the keyboard fix would correct it?
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haha thank you.. umm.. its the default one that came with the t-mobile mda vario III. was working fine up until the other day.. whats this keyboard fix u speak of tho?
I have almost the same problem with my "w" key also. I have to press it longer than i do other keys to get it to type a "w" and when i do it causes a slow down on my phone.
sounds like its time for a song..
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1022602
lol.. u can spell out the name of the band without the letter W.. so its good.
flobots - No "W"
anyway.. on topic.. wat rom is A7LAS using?
Hello fellow Kaiser users,
I don't know if this happened only with me or others have experienced the same.
TyTN II keys on the QWERTY after a year of use has some keys responding after the 2nd or 3rd stroke of the key.
Did anyone else experience this?
Is there a solution?
It is really bugging me when I'm typing an SMS or typing something down.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
Hardware suggestions also I will try on my own risk.
fireblade63 said:
TyTN II keys on the QWERTY after a year of use has some keys responding after the 2nd or 3rd stroke of the key.
Did anyone else experience this?
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Same problem here, but I started noticing it after 4/5 months of use. Would like to know about a solution also.
I feel your pain, this is what is really killing me because the keyboard is a very big part of the phone, and I've only been using it for 7 months. If i knew it would become this unresponsive i would of got an i phone because this phones on screen keyboard and transcriber is useless.
It happened to me after 7 months. The "c" key on my tilt started to become unresponsive so I called up at&t and had it warranty exchanged for a refurb. This second one was already even worse than the one I'd just sent back, so I had them send out another one. This third one is fine, although the "c" key (again, oddly enough) doesn't click like the others. It's responsive, but feels a little different. I didn't feel like going through the exchange process again, so for now I'm living with it.
My 1 month old refurb tilt doesn't type the keys when I press them sometimes. I should have that fixed. I thought it was a software problem...
My brand new XPS M1530 does the same thing sometimes. I guess I reckoned it was just me not pressing on the keys hard enough or something like that...
So I'm not the only one with the problem...
But no solution?!
Even a hint of what might be causing this would help..
have you guys tried using the disable XT9 cab ?
yes
I think it is H/W cleaning related
How to clean is the deal...
you can find disassembling guides on mikechannon's web. just follow the disassembling instructions and after you remove keyboard, try cleaning it.
Same problem for me.
I'm always very carefull with my device, and don't use the hardware keyboard very often.
Now for some letters I really have to press harder to make them work.
I have my device for only 6 or 7 months.
Have had my Kaiser for 6 months now and the Y and B keys are starting to go out. For the past couple weeks I have been considering sending it in for warranty exchange but I have taken very good care of my Kaiser and worry about what I would get back...
Anyone eager enough tried disasembling and cleaning?
Moreover, did it work?
funny thing here is that I get more unresponsiveness in the right side of the keyboard (enter; L; P; direction keys).
It is a real pain...
Most prolly will do it soon
Will let you all know of the outcome
Same here.
Had mine 8 months, the W key is worst, takes a really heavy press to get it to work, has been like that for about 5 months.
Now the B is also getting bad, so is the S.
If i'm likely to get a refurb back i guess i'll just put up with it until my contract is up.
I'm facing the same problem on my HTC herald. HTC keyboard quality has gone way down. I never faced such problem when I had htc universal.
Hey man,
since you had quite some ppls share of PPCs;
did you disassemble any of them before?
Do you think it's a good idea to do it myself?
I'm extra careful normally but I'm having doubts
kdskamal said:
I'm facing the same problem on my HTC herald. HTC keyboard quality has gone way down. I never faced such problem when I had htc universal.
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Similar problems here with my Tilt. FN, CAP/SHIFT, N are all problematic for me.
Has anyone tried a spray liquid electronic "contact cleaner" on a device like this before?
Weird
Oddly enough, I have had this problem a little bit with mine as well. However mine is the space bar. I, like many others I am sure, have hopped from ROM to ROM. When I changed ROMs the last time, it seemed to fix the issue. It was really weird because a lot of the times I would type something, and the letters would turn out something like this:
Iw antt oe at atj oes.
Like I said, I just swapped ROMs and it seemed to fix it. maybe the t9?
killerbeans said:
Oddly enough, I have had this problem a little bit with mine as well. However mine is the space bar. I, like many others I am sure, have hopped from ROM to ROM. When I changed ROMs the last time, it seemed to fix the issue. It was really weird because a lot of the times I would type something, and the letters would turn out something like this:
Iw antt oe at atj oes.
Like I said, I just swapped ROMs and it seemed to fix it. maybe the t9?
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You are correct sir! Just run "disable xt9" (found plenty of places on the kaiser forum) and your problem should be fixed.
I too have had this problem. I noticed it with the d, r, and space bar keys. Interestingly enough the keys that i press often (Take A for example [I have it mapped to the A button in PocketNesterPlus]) aren't hard to press at all. What I'm trying right now is pressing the problem keys over and over again to see if they "loosen up". Best Case Scenario: It works. Worst Case Scenario: I ruin an expensive piece of equipment.
Update: This might be working. To test which keys were unresponsive i typed abcdefghijklmnop.... without exerting any extra effort. The keys w and r didn't show up so i kept working them. I repeated the test and I got r to work. perhaps i am unknowingly pressing r harder, or perhaps not.
I have been running a older version of Dutty's Kaiser ROM for some time with great results, however, I have noticed that my hardware keyboard is slower than it should be. I can press a button and either get no response or two characters typed. Anyone else experience this and know what causes it?
thanks ahead of time,
Levi
Use Disable T9 cab
I also had more performance with different radios and spls
There is a recen thread on this
do you know where the recent thread is? or where the disable T9 cab is located? i did a forum search but turned up too many hits and after reading the first page of hits i gave up.
The problem has escalated!
you know I tried that disable T9/XT9 cabs and tricks, but they didn't help. I investigated further as to why my hardware keyboard doesn't respond correctly. I think that I have found that is is strictly a hardware related issue. Only a few of the buttons on my device have this problem, and their not really slow, they just don't type each every time I press them. I also found that the harder I pressed those problem buttons, the more likely it was to actually type them. I might end up trying another ROM and hard resetting the device but if not, I may try taking the device apart and cleaning the keyboard, I suppose I have just typed it to death! If all else fails unless anyone else has suggestions, time for a new phone. Anyone else have this problem with the Kaiser, and another thing. Have a kaiser?, look at the front of it and inspect the shiny button cluster. Does your button cluster move about the opening sort of loosely jiggling around? hmmm........ mine does!
Levi
this is a known issue with alot of ROMs that are made from the AT&T OEM rom.
blacksage said:
you know I tried that disable T9/XT9 cabs and tricks, but they didn't help. I investigated further as to why my hardware keyboard doesn't respond correctly. I think that I have found that is is strictly a hardware related issue. Only a few of the buttons on my device have this problem, and their not really slow, they just don't type each every time I press them. I also found that the harder I pressed those problem buttons, the more likely it was to actually type them. I might end up trying another ROM and hard resetting the device but if not, I may try taking the device apart and cleaning the keyboard, I suppose I have just typed it to death! If all else fails unless anyone else has suggestions, time for a new phone. Anyone else have this problem with the Kaiser, and another thing. Have a kaiser?, look at the front of it and inspect the shiny button cluster. Does your button cluster move about the opening sort of loosely jiggling around? hmmm........ mine does!
Levi
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I second both observations.
On my keyboard, it's the R and H buttons that are unresponsive. As to the shiny button cluster, mine moves too. But not as much as my friend's TYTN II does.
spip72 said:
I second both observations.
On my keyboard, it's the R and H buttons that are unresponsive. As to the shiny button cluster, mine moves too. But not as much as my friend's TYTN II does.
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You may want to check your key repeat speed and delays in settings->buttons. I had mine set to lowest delay and highest speed. I tried to double the delay, and reduce the speed to less than half. My keys seems to work a little better now (but i've just been testing for a few minutes).
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my hardware buttons jiggle around a lot. they still work fine, but yes I believe they are just jiggly by poor deisgn.