Hi, my sister's boyfriend is having a screenproblem with his TyTN2. Yesterday, he took it out of his pocket, turned it on, and the screen was more or less white, with one blueish "wave" over the screen. Everything else seems to work, he can use the phone, without seeing anything of course.
Now the weird thing: The phone wasn't dropped, there is really no sign of a hit or something. It's pretty the same as this user already described some time earlier inhere (click).
As it obviously seems, this is a TyTN2-problem, and not due to hitting/dropping the device, so, is there a hope to get this replaced on warranty? I hoped to find more threads on the subject "broken screen", especially one matching exactly this case, but until now, I only found the one cited above, beside many others of course about users who caused the broken screen themselves. Am I perhaps overseeing a thread treating this special case?
What possibilities does he have, besides buying a new device, or sending it in to HTC for repair?
I read something about a "ribbon cable" that could be "uncorrectly seated" (click), how probable is it, that this could be the case? And if probable, what cable is this exactly? I looked at one dismantling guide, but there are several "candidates" that could be loose?!
So, I'd be very grateful for every helpful advice, he's convinced he didn't harm his TyTN2, and I believe this, because he always carries it in a protecting Alu-case...
Thx in advance,
Eric
I've also once broken a screen without dropping/hitting the device, but just by it being too "compressed" in my pocket, which bent the screen enough to crack it.
Some screens that don't appear cracked can actually be broken too, but just in a location you don't see (the screen is a bit bigger than the viewing area and the exterior part is where the control chip is).
What I'd do is get a screen on ebay (can find some for about $80) and replace it. That's after disassembleing the device, checking the connections and making sure the LCD is dead.
Well im having the same problem since i got my at&t tilt for just a week. First it became white-ish after turning on out of the standby mode, after 3 times it became total white and didnt get better since then. I got a new lcd from ebay 3 days ago, tried it, same white screen. Now i ordered a new ribbon cable thats the cable that sends the lcd signals to the mainboard.
This is how it looks and where you can order it on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-TYTN-II-2-P4550-Kaiser-LCD-ribbon-flex-cable_W0QQitemZ110267363535QQihZ001QQcategoryZ14418QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em122
It also has the micro sd connection, and the speaker at the ear connection on it.
I expect this item coming this week. I will hope this will fix it.
ok please report the results here, I think I'm going to check that cable in first place too
I sure will report the results.
better of selling it
i had the same problem... i found it easier and more convenient to sell the damaged phone on ebay ($250) and buy a new one from ebay as well ($400). basically, i fixed my screen for $150. think about it
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Well im having the same problem since i got my at&t tilt for just a week. First it became white-ish after turning on out of the standby mode, after 3 times it became total white and didnt get better since then. I got a new lcd from ebay 3 days ago, tried it, same white screen. Now i ordered a new ribbon cable thats the cable that sends the lcd signals to the mainboard.
This is how it looks and where you can order it on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-TYTN-II-2-P4550-Kaiser-LCD-ribbon-flex-cable_W0QQitemZ110267363535QQihZ001QQcategoryZ14418QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em122
It also has the micro sd connection, and the speaker at the ear connection on it.
I expect this item coming this week. I will hope this will fix it.
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As im typing now, the htc tytn2 works again. My problem was the flex cable. Got the new one installed and lcd works again. But take a look to this thread, theres a guy that has also the problem and said just a other lcd worked.
The thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=352486
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Ok so i sat on my Tilt and busted my LCD. Me and my fat A$$!! I then went on eBay and bought a replacement for 40$, get it a few days later and start the operation. Following along precisely with a picture tutorial on how to disassemble, put in the new LCD and start the reassembly. I soon realize that the ribbon cable connector on the new LCD is just slightly outta place compared to the old one. After managing to get it on and having difficulty reassembling my Tilt,I insert the battery and the screen actually works...for about 10 seconds.... so i disassemble and reassemble a few more times trying to fix it and no luck. I then read about sub-par lcd's from eBay causing glitches and weird things to happen. I then proceed to kick my self in the a$$ numerous times. I have contacted the seller and he agreed to replace it. My question being.. has anyone had success with a replacement LCD from Ebay? if so who was the seller? And do any of the almighty here have any words of wisdom for a feeble tilt owner such as myself?
Yea I have words of wisdom, pay $hit get $hit.
That's what happens when you "buy it now" the cheapest screen on eBay
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I can only add this since I have not "yet" had to replace a tilt screen. I have however replaced others including a T-Mobile Dash screen.
If you have push tabs on the socket for the ribbon cable - make sure they are pushed in and secure. I "did not" do this the first time I installed the Dash LCD and got pretty much the same results you spoke of for the Tilt. Upon dissassembly/reassembly - I discovered that the tabs were not down and secure. Sevured them and I was up and running!
Hope it helps you out.
hi there. not sure who you bought your screen off of, but here is the one i bought and successfully fitted a week ago
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110273898639
i actually think it is more sensitive than the original screen.
Guys!
Sad news!
I droped the X1 yesterday while getting out of the car. It was in a pouch. And damm the display does not show up anymore. I get calls and all but the display does not show up atall. I am so pissed at myself. I checked with a local guy and he said the display would cost US$ 52 (apporx) Now that cheap but then he said thats not along with the touch screen. I Wonder how come the display and touch screen are different. Does anyone know?
Also had come across a thread of a X1 being opened. Can someone gimme the link if they know it.
Regards
if i remember i think there was a video on youtube that someone was opening an xperia step by step
the digitizer shouldnt be that expensive
someone who dropped the phone had similar problems.. maybe u can find it and see if there are solutions?
deja vu
Yeh I heard someone else here did that, seems it's quite sensitive to drops, Im guessing maybe the ribbon comes loose or something if the LCD isnt actually smashed? That being said, if it's just the screen, the touchscreen should still work and not need replacing aswell?
I mean if theyre the same piece and not interchangeable surely they would come together?
my touch stop working suddently, but the screen works fine... but the thing is that i doesnt drop the phone... i dont know... im waiting for a change now...
Check this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyGUbxFqvyc&fmt=18
he also disassembles the rear here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWDurQrRt-Y&fmt=18
Dropped my X1 phone as well
I had recently dropped my phone as well and the screen also stopped working, but the phone was completely functional. The repairing people told me it would cost me approx $150+ to get it fixed. The next day i decided to turn the phone on again and the screen worked.
So hopefully, the screen will fix itself for you as well
Bummer
It sounds like the connecter behind the screen has come loose - 52 bucks to open it up and put it back sounds about right.
I'd give opening it up a try, although I remember reading the thread when the service manual for opening it was first leaked - the guys said it wasn't easy!
Is it not still under warranty or something?
no warranty?
warranty will fix it
I was the guy who dropped his and had the same problem. Sent it in for warranty (great service I bought in the UK but live in Barbados so I sent it to the US location). Got it back in two and a half weeks fixed for no charge. Mine didn't have any visible damage from the drop though so maybe that made a difference? Good luck with yours!
hey, i remove the screen protector and start working!!!
Repair manuals
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2798582&postcount=1
I had same problem, in SE service they change flat cable, cost me 25 euro.
I had the same problem yesterday. Just searching for disassemble example and it works all of sudden today!
my x1 dropped too and the display stopped working ( black screen ) , but ive only called the service and 2 days later i had a new device in my hands for free
my X1 work again!
Hey, thanks for the dissasembly links!
Mine fell down onto stone ground and i had the same symtomes, sounds, calls everything was working but not the display. I dissasembled and reassembled, and it worked again! I think the plug of the ribbon cable connecting the front panel with the mainboard in the back unit was loose.
Cheers!
Screamer
I am currently really interested in a Diamond, however the thread Oily liquid underneath screen - from nowhere kinda make me reconsidering it. Because of that I contacted HTC and received a surprisingly quick reply, stating that nearly every device sent in had a physical damage
Dear Sir, I can confirm that this fault is normally caused by physical damage to the device. Nearly every single device we have repaired with this fault has had some form of physical damage that has led to the fault. Of course the few that haven't were repaired under warranty. I quote directly from our repair centre: This issue is caused by air/liquid entering the LCD layer, and is nearly always OOW (Out Of Warranty) as it can only be caused by excess pressure on the screen. As long as you look after the device, and take care of it, this issue is unlikely to affect you. We have numerous Touch Dimonds here in our support centre, around 3 or 4 for each language we support, and not one of them have displayed this issue.
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Today I took a look at some models on display in several stores and except for one all showed the same effect described in this thread. However I have to admit that this might not be the perfect example for a comparison as those poor phones probably not get treated extremely well in stores.
So I hope to find out with this poll how many people really have got this issue, respectively how many of them can explain it with too much pressure.
Thanks everyone.
I had exactly the same problem. Just went back to T-Mobile Netherlands, and they admitted directly that this is a common issue. They repaired it under warranty conditions at no fee at all. They just replaced the entire screen and luckily I've never faced the problem again.
Also, when the oilish liquid was there, the screen alignment was always a little outlined, and when you tap the slylus on that spot you can hear a strange hard "click".
Thanks to all voters, so far all voted to have no problems, except for one, I suppose peponline.
More opinions/votes appreciated.
I've got it on my 7 month old diamond - screen works ok, but tapping it isn't soft like it used to be. Not a bad enough problem to send it back and be without a phone for a couple of weeks, or risk being charged for!
Thanks for your post Alpsp, did it happen for no reason or did you do touch the screen once too hard?
Those who voted the third option, are you definitely sure it couldnt have come from too much pressure - maybe unnoticed in the pockets?
More comments/votes appreciated.
Hi Lutent, I can honestly say I don't believe I've put any abnormal amount of pressure on the screen - I'm pretty careful with the phone, it doesn't have a single scratch on it yet.
What is strange though, is that I've just tried to take a photo of the liquid for you, but it has completely disapppeared!
The only reason I can think of for this is that it hasn't been in my pocket all morning so will be cooler than usual. Also it doesn't show up so much in daylight - I'll have a look later tonight and see if I can photograph it
Hi all
I have the same issue. mine covers 50 % of the screen.
Whats funny is that its exactly right smack in the middle of the screen
its like a zoom box of the screen.
It appeared suddenly and all my touch screen alignments runs as well.
didnt have time to send for warranty until recently.
have sent it in now currently waiting for repairs to complete.
so far no news about if its OOW
smudge
Had this problem for some short time, the touchscreen has become hard to handle, as it's not very precise in the area of the "liquid spot", covering 1/9 of the center of the screen. Have no clue of where it came from.
Just sent an mail to the store, demanding replacement refering to this as a common problem after doing some reseach at different forums online.
Waiting for reply. Will notify the results.
Same problem with my HTC Fuze. It looked perfect. Never dropped. Made call. Looked good. Pulled it out 5 minutes later...the square was there. (I had just flown from Atlanta to LAX...I wonder if atmosphere had anything to do with it???)
Definitly a defect in design.
PS...The letter they sent is BS. It's not the LCD but the touchscreen. The touchscreen is touching the LCD...in my case anyway.
You will probably also notice a slight curvature of the touchscreen down toward the LCD if you look closely.
The reason they don't want to repair them is because this is the most time consuming repair. The phone has to be completely disassembled to attach the cable.
I am really pissed. i had liquid under the display just two days after I bought it.
I am super careful with all my electronic devices and not once did I have to send in any device to get it repaired.
the D2 was also always in the leather pouch.
For some reason, initially the oily liquid disappeared and I could keep on using it, however not it is there permanently and when I called the warranty place, they said that most likely I will have to pay for the repair as displays are not covered by warranty.
I am really pissed and would recommend buying a different phone. Sooner or late I bet everyone will have this problem. It happened to me after just two days, I can not imagine it to last 2 years or so...
Sigh... same issue here. I just bought a TP from a good friend of mine who is exceptionally carefull with his phones and I've just noticed a big part of the screen (1/4) being full with the Newton Rings.
for some reason when im in landscape mode (ie when the keyboard is out) the touchscreen doesnt work at all.
it works perfectly when im in portrait mode though so im not sure what it is. Is it possible something got detached when the screen i slide out the screen? i didnt drop it so im not sure whats causing this problem.
Hi, I have the same issue as you currently, I have tried different ROMs and this problem persists. Have you found a fix for this yet or does anyone else know how to fix? I too fear it is a hardware problem but havent dropped it or damaged it in any way.
Strange, i've got this problem from today, touchscreen just stops responding once i slide keyboard out but the hardware buttons remain working...
but if i manually change screen orientation without sliding keyboard out, the screen is still responsive...
Anyone know what could be wrong?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561151
almost certainly. Mine started out being unresponsive in landscape mode (just suddenly stopped responding to touch) and then ended up black screening whenever i slid it open.
see pic 1 for what is probably happening. I've done the fix in pic 2 myself (although i've put felt on BOTH sides now) but if you have warranty then use it of course!!
HTH!
btw I think most X1 users are going to "Xperience" this at some point. I did nothing unusual to my device other than use it! Maybe Sony have addressed it since (mine was bought in January) but I doubt it....
i too have this problem!
i bought it off eBay though so i don't have proof of purchase for warrenty!
anybody know whether Sony ericsson UK accept xperia warrenty without proof of purchase?
i know someone i think in america got it repaired under warrenty without proof of purchase!
Hmm I'll give SE a call tomorrow
ive just sent my xperia off today in the UK but with the proof of purchase from o2, I believe it to be a hardware problem. However i would certainly see if you can blag it somehow to get it fixed, its obviously a problem from the manufacturer and we dont pay all this money for these malfunctioning products without some sort of decent warrenty!
unfortunately i couldnt get it fixed myself so i sent it to SE for repair.
i have the x1a (us version) and just called the xperia hotline and i sent it in. they didnt ask me for proof of purchase. i have already sent my xperia once before to repair the cracks in the body and keyboard.
im surprised as to how defective it is from normal usage. it seems very sturdy at first. i guess its also because i have never kept a phone for that long. i usually switch every two months.
well the guy i bought it off on ebay seems willing to help and is looking for the proof, if he can't find it then i'll just send it off anyway and cross my fingers!
worst comes to worst i'm 10£ short and i need to buy a new ribbon cable
@bigneeker
u switch every two months! my god you must be rich!
man the same exact thing happened to me today as well. first problems were when sliding out the keyboard to text someone and trying to press the send key during landscape display which wasn't registering so i had to close phone up to hit send. then later as u open the phone into landscape the screen was no longer responsive in that display.
then came the black screen when opened but if u hit the power button on during with the phone opened the picture would come out. now finally my phone has no image at all with the phone opened and can only work in portrait mode
i've had my x1 for about 10 months now so its still under warranty but man am i seriously disappointed with this. most likely they'll replace my ribbon with same cheap one and have to deal with this problem again in a couple of months.
same as above has just started happening to me too!
with mine though whenever i slide the keyboard out and it dosent work, when i slide back in it messes up all the screen alignment in portrait mode.
this fantastic phone is starting to get on my...s now!
I have exactly the same problem too! It started the day after the warranty expired! What should I do???
had the same issue, after a week t stopped workng at all. And they refues my waranty... And it would vost me 180EURov lol a ripoff!
So i took t home and dssasembled it, gues what, ribbon cable s halfway cut! Glue ddnt help, so i ordered nw one, 30EUR or 50$ from http://cnn.cn/shop/sonyericsson-xperia-c-28_638.html Thought i could also buy from ebay, same price.
Now i also ordered new housng from ebay, and this time i have and idea. i wll glue some small blockade inside sliding mechanizm. So it will prevent from cable being stretched too much when open/close.
Anyway, why THE **** DID SE NOT MAKE RIBBON CABLE LONGER!!!
Or w8, it was HTC, they did this on purpuse for SE?
Deffectve ribbon
To me this didn't occure yet, I hope will be later than sooner, but I wonder ... SE X2 has a different ribbon?
Maybe HTC is not as (market) neutral as they might expect it? )
the HTC direct product , like TouchPro, TouchPro2 have a same problem or not ?
Hope Yet
I just got the same issue, had my phone 1 year and 2 months now.
If you are in the EU your one year warranty becomes 2years on electronics regardless if the manufactures warranty is 1 year. Just so you know. Contact you local citizens advise bureau to find out or goggle it. Hope that helps.
the warrenty on the x1 (in the uk anyway) is 2years!
also! a warning about ebay housing, they are pretty much all fakes! and cause more trouble then they're worth! i pretty much wore out the screws whne i used one, had to literaly cut my phone apart from it!
cnn.cn is THE place to buy!
CommanderThor said:
had the same issue, after a week t stopped workng at all. And they refues my waranty... And it would vost me 180EURov lol a ripoff!
So i took t home and dssasembled it, gues what, ribbon cable s halfway cut! Glue ddnt help, so i ordered nw one, 30EUR or 50$ from http://cnn.cn/shop/sonyericsson-xperia-c-28_638.html Thought i could also buy from ebay, same price.
Now i also ordered new housng from ebay, and this time i have and idea. i wll glue some small blockade inside sliding mechanizm. So it will prevent from cable being stretched too much when open/close.
Anyway, why THE **** DID SE NOT MAKE RIBBON CABLE LONGER!!!
Or w8, it was HTC, they did this on purpuse for SE?
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Uh oh... I disassembled my xperia to change the silver to black... I have a feeling my shoddy reassembly didn't help as after I did it slowly have some serious problems began. My reception/gps is terrible, cuts in and out all the time, my hinge is extremely loose and wobbly especially once in landscape mode, battery life has gotten a lot worse, and now as per the rest of us my landscape is pretty much useless with no touchscreen response also the screen alignment once back in portrait is way off.
I'm pretty sure I'm in for a similar surprise once i disassemble my poor phone again. Anyways any update on the new ribbon? I'm currently looking for a replacement tho even tho I really love my X1 for the most part, its hard finding a phone with similar/better features in my price range.
Hello overyone, I just bought off a old x1 which had the same problem. It was my 3rd phone. And i have replaced many screens. For now my conclusion is its the flex cable between the screen/buttons/touchscreen etc.....
you can buy them on ebay for about 28 dollars(incl. shipping)
Most of the time it is not the screen/touchscreen. Its the flex cable connecting it all.
see picture of the part i mean:
(search google for: "x1 flex cable"
Before opening phone: please be sure how to open it. Because it maybe very tricky to open if you are unexperienced!!!!!
Hope it help y'all
Hello overyone, I just bought off a old x1 which had the same problem. It was my 3rd phone. And i have replaced many screens. For now my conclusion is its the flex cable between the screen/buttons/touchscreen etc.....
you can buy them on ebay for about 28 dollars(incl. shipping)
Most of the time it is not the screen/touchscreen. Its the flex cable connecting it all.
see picture of the part i mean:
(search google for: "x1 flex cable"
Before opening phone: please be sure how to open it. Because it maybe very tricky to open if you are unexperienced!!!!!
Hope it help y'all
Hi, everyone.
So, I've dropped my phone in a parking lot and cracked the screen, and I'm trying to decide whether to accept the risk with attempting to replace it myself. A major concern I have is the thought of painstakingly carrying out a successful repair, only to find that the replacement screen is some cheap ripoff. I see a lot of people have discussed the difficulty of carrying out the repair, but I can't find any mention of the quality of the replacement screen they were able to obtain. As far as I've been able to figure out, no original HTC screens are to be found.
So if I shell out the USD 50-70 required to buy a replacement screen, can I expect it to look and feel precisely like the original?
Reapoh said:
Hi, everyone.
So, I've dropped my phone in a parking lot and cracked the screen, and I'm trying to decide whether to accept the risk with attempting to replace it myself. A major concern I have is the thought of painstakingly carrying out a successful repair, only to find that the replacement screen is some cheap ripoff. I see a lot of people have discussed the difficulty of carrying out the repair, but I can't find any mention of the quality of the replacement screen they were able to obtain. As far as I've been able to figure out, no original HTC screens are to be found.
So if I shell out the USD 50-70 required to buy a replacement screen, can I expect it to look and feel precisely like the original?
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$50-70 is the marketing price for a new screen replacement at present. Have you repaired the your HTC one yet, is it difficult?
xymay said:
$50-70 is the marketing price for a new screen replacement at present. Have you repaired the your HTC one yet, is it difficult?
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I decided to go ahead and buy a screen from Fixez, because they've made an excellent instructional video on how to carry out the replacement, without which I probably wouldn't have bothered trying this myself. However, they sent me the wrong part initially, and I have yet to receive my second order with the correct part.
I'll be sure to give you an update when I do make my attempt.
Reapoh said:
I decided to go ahead and buy a screen from Fixez, because they've made an excellent instructional video on how to carry out the replacement, without which I probably wouldn't have bothered trying this myself. However, they sent me the wrong part initially, and I have yet to receive my second order with the correct part.
I'll be sure to give you an update when I do make my attempt.
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Wait for your updates, good luck. :good:
I just finished my repair with the very good fixez instructions. Make sure you follow it closely as I glossed over one part. The ribbon connectors are released by tabs. Three of them are released by the black tabs. One is released by a white tab. I assumed all four of them were the same. When I tried to lift up the "black tab" on the 4th one, it tore off the connector. It's the video connector. There is a guy on ebay who specializes in soldering phone connector parts on ebay and I gave him $40 to solder on a new connector. Unfortunately it didn't work. I ended up needing to buy a new motherboard.
Also after I got the motherboard, and put it in, I had issues with the sim card. First of all, the replacement LCD/frame I got had a defective sim card slot. The button to eject the tray is broken.
I bought mine from here since it claimed to be a genuine product. http://www.ebay.com/itm/350863317919?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
I don't know how true it is since the cables don't have the htc logo on it like it does with the factory one.
Anyways, regarding the sim card, it might've had to do with this one small gray connector(2cm long) that connects the top board to the motherboard. I had it oriented the wrong way which made the connector touch the screw, which might've shunted the contact. After I oriented it away from the screw, it's been working fine.
So essentially I ran into a lot of small issues that gave me a lot of headaches. If I were to do it over again, I not sure if I would've. But then again, I probably would've saved myself a lot of trouble if I were more meticulous, short of the sim card eject issue.
Do your phone function well after repair? Any lessons that you have known that how to tell high quality screen to the poor? I also got caught in the same situation. But i don't want to buy the part in ebay. Do you have any suggestions? i would appreciate it!
I just carried out my repair today, and I must say I'm very pleased with the result! I have several friends who also have this phone, and I've been able to compare the screen to theirs. The look and feel of the hardware itself is indistinguishable from the original. The HTC logo, the perforated bezel, the smoothness of the digitizer -- everything is precisely the same as far as I can tell. The image it displays is also indistinguishable from the original, in all its brilliance. By every metric I've been able to come up with, there's no difference.
As for the repair, I had no trouble carrying it out. I did notice the flip-up connector trap mentioned by astroidea, but my level of inconfidence with the task was such that I followed the instructions very, very closely. The instructions themselves were excellent. Nothing was skipped and everything looked exactly as in my phone (with the exception of the brown and blue coax cables, which weren't crossed on my phone). I've incurred some very minor aesthetic damage where I pried against the back cover, but the internals all seem to be functioning as they should. All in all, the repair took about three hours following the instruction videos from Fixez.
Despite the long wait, I got a good impression of Fixez. They replied to all my e-mails in a timely manner, and were willing to cover the expensive international return shipping for the item they sent me in error (which is only reasonable, but still). I'll still buy my next screen from them if, heavens forbid, I need one again.