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T-Mob UK release pushed back to October

Well 08/09/07 is out of the window.
Was told by a customer service rep yesterday (who i have been dealing with for a few years now and is very reliable) that they have had to push it back to late October.
This is due to customers buying the Kaiser from Expansys etc, putting a T-mobile sim in and finding certain processes failing, ie Web n Walk, GPS etc.
So it needs further testing before they release it officially and can support it with no bugs.

Schooleydoo said:
Well 08/09/07 is out of the window.
Was told by a customer service rep yesterday (who i have been dealing with for a few years now and is very reliable) that they have had to push it back to late October.
This is due to customers buying the Kaiser from Expansys etc, putting a T-mobile sim in and finding certain processes failing, ie Web n Walk, GPS etc.
So it needs further testing before they release it officially and can support it with no bugs.
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what kind of problems with web-n-walk? mine is due anytime now, just waiting on city link to deliver it. im going to stick my t-mobile contract sim in it and use it on t-mobile. i hope its not too bad a problem

Schooleydoo said:
Was told by a customer service rep yesterday (who i have been dealing with for a few years now and is very reliable) that they have had to push it back to late October.
This is due to customers buying the Kaiser from Expansys etc, putting a T-mobile sim in and finding certain processes failing, ie Web n Walk, GPS etc.
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Bullsh*t. First off, Kaiser has been released like 2-3 days ago, so how many of such customers are here already with that kind of problems, that T-Mobile could actually carry out 'further investigation'??? Second, I have T-Mobile's SIM card with web'n'walk, and so far no problems noticed! 3G/HSDPA, videocalls, GPS - all works out of the box, without troubles at all.
Personally, I think it's just crap talking. Anyway, even HTC's official press release last week (AFAIR) said that T-Mobile's release is due October...

eva_d said:
Bullsh*t. First off, Kaiser has been released like 2-3 days ago, so how many of such customers are here already with that kind of problems, that T-Mobile could actually carry out 'further investigation'??? Second, I have T-Mobile's SIM card with web'n'walk, and so far no problems noticed! 3G/HSDPA, videocalls, GPS - all works out of the box, without troubles at all.
Personally, I think it's just crap talking. Anyway, even HTC's official press release last week (AFAIR) said that T-Mobile's release is due October...
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phew i was getting worried. so is tomtom working fine on it?

dolbe said:
phew i was getting worried. so is tomtom working fine on it?
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Works fine, however I was disappointed with free map of London I've downloaded. It covers central London + zones 2, 3, maybe 4 - roughly. It surely doesn't cover Heathrow area, where I live. :/

is the tomtom you get with it a time trial? if so ill stick the version ive got on my vario with my uk and western european maps on it

dolbe said:
is the tomtom you get with it a time trial? if so ill stick the version ive got on my vario with my uk and western european maps on it
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It's not time limited, both TT and free map. You need to pay extra only when you want to download more maps.

ok well ive got a "fix" for tomtom so ill stick with the version ive got now. well its arrived and charging. just had a quick play with it before i let it charge...it was hard putting it down heh.

Gah you had me worried there
I should receive mine soon, i'll let you know if i have any issues! (on T-mobile as well).
Fingers crossed!

dolbe said:
ok well ive got a "fix" for tomtom so ill stick with the version ive got now. well its arrived and charging. just had a quick play with it before i let it charge...it was hard putting it down heh.
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Play with it whilst it's charging!

eva_d said:
Bullsh*t. First off, Kaiser has been released like 2-3 days ago, so how many of such customers are here already with that kind of problems, that T-Mobile could actually carry out 'further investigation'??? Second, I have T-Mobile's SIM card with web'n'walk, and so far no problems noticed! 3G/HSDPA, videocalls, GPS - all works out of the box, without troubles at all.
Personally, I think it's just crap talking. Anyway, even HTC's official press release last week (AFAIR) said that T-Mobile's release is due October...
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Cheers for that. What would i possibly gain from making that up?
Wont bother next time, but lets wait and see eh.
As for specific issues, she couldn't or wouldn't tell me, but when i asked if it was a data or gps problem she said it involves those processes.

I don't think eva_d was calling bullsh*t on you and your post, but on the T-mobile rep and thier reasons for delaying.

chaps said:
I don't think eva_d was calling bullsh*t on you and your post, but on the T-mobile rep and thier reasons for delaying.
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Yes, exactly. Sorry Schooleydoo if you took it wrong.

I was going to wait for Tmobiles branded version, however:
a) T-mobile have made it look like a dogs arse.
b) When i spotted it in stock on device wire, my credit card couldn't resist!

unfortunately / fortunately, i have a safety system for such moments of weekness.
It's called "Wife"
(We would have no money what so ever if this system was not in place.)

pjam said:
unfortunately / fortunately, i have a safety system for such moments of weekness.
It's called "Wife"
(We would have no money what so ever if this system was not in place.)
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Hehehe.. Snap!

pjam said:
unfortunately / fortunately, i have a safety system for such moments of weekness.
It's called "Wife"
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I have exactly the same safety system in place, and actually I never believed I'm going to get Kaiser on the very first stock release (in fact, I also was hoping to get Vario III), but well.. let's say my safety system got loose a bit in this case.

T-mobile October release date?
A T-mobile (UK) business customer rep called me today to say that my business contracts are coming up for renewal. When I said I was holding off renewing to wait for the new Vario he said that although he didn't have specific dates it might not be till late October :-( ! And because he didn't have specific details he couldn't even confirm whether there might be a hanset charge (or how much it might be). He did offer to reduce my monthly line rentals by 66% though for an upgrade with no handset so I'm thinking I'll take that and use the £ saved over the contract term to buy an unlocked Kaiser straightaway

eva_d said:
Yes, exactly. Sorry Schooleydoo if you took it wrong.
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Ahh i see.
[insert embarrased smiley here]
I hope it is crap to be honest, but have heard from her again since and have been told i can buy one from phones4u etc now, they will reimburse me but not give any support. However if the phone goes wrong, they will replace it for a T-mobile version next month.
Tempting

Schooleydoo said:
I hope it is crap to be honest, but have heard from her again since and have been told i can buy one from phones4u etc now, they will reimburse me but not give any support. However if the phone goes wrong, they will replace it for a T-mobile version next month.
Tempting
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Could you please clarify this? T-mob said you can buy and unbranded Kaiser (though i assume not from phones4u as they dont sell it i think), then they will give you the money for it, and if it goes wrong they will swap it for a branded kaiser???

wifi cuts out every minute on my tilt

i just bought a refurbed tilt from premier for 150 and im gettin disconnected from my internet every other minute on opera 8.65 mobile or whatever the newest ones called. is it normal or does my refurb tilt just suck ass and i got a busted phone?

First welcome on board.
You'll notice I have slightly changed your thread title as it appeared to be a statement of fact "wifi sucks on the Tilt". Your problem is not normal behaviour for the Tilt (though I think I saw another thread about Wifi cutting out in a regular pattern). Worth a search, or wait for replies here.
Mike

m3power said:
i just bought a refurbed tilt from premier for 150 and im gettin disconnected from my internet every other minute on opera 8.65 mobile or whatever the newest ones called. is it normal or does my refurb tilt just suck ass and i got a busted phone?
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There is no sollution to this problem which is widely spread. Read my post at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363131&page=2

solwretep said:
There is no sollution to this problem which is widely spread. Read my post at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363131&page=2
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Just to provide a balance, I think "widespread" and "no solution" isn't exactly accurate. There are 1000's of us using wifi quite happily on all types of access point.
There's only a few users reporting this problem - and I didnt spend long looking at the thread, but they all seem to have tilt's so I am assuming its a rom based thing.

GoogleMaps not working

alright i didn't want to have to do this but here it is, i have used the followig roms and radios and gotten the same results:
ryncppr diamond appeal v4
confused stu mobile vista 1.3
shogun deathrom beta v1 and v3
original att rom build 19209
with all 1.65.xx.xx radios i could find except radio from hell.
i am using google maps 2.0.1.18, for a while googlemaps was kickass because i am horrible with directions and i could use google maps to get me from point a to point b without getting lost, my GPS fix was great and was always accurate within a few feet even in my basement of my house. then one day a few weeks ago i stopped being able to get a fix, it says seeking gps sattelites(0) and nothing happens. i live in fenton missouri in the states, fenton is just outside of st. louis and i am covered by a 3g network. i live less than 5 miles from three att towers so i see no reason for my googlemaps to have quit on me unless my phone has gone deffective. if anyone has any idea or can atleast tell me that they have had the same problem i will worry less about it and move on without my little blue and white dot that moves along on my map. thanks in advance you guys are great

tubaking182 said:
alright i didn't want to have to do this but here it is, i have used the followig roms and radios and gotten the same results:
ryncppr diamond appeal v4
confused stu mobile vista 1.3
shogun deathrom beta v1 and v3
original att rom build 19209
with all 1.65.xx.xx radios i could find except radio from hell.
i am using google maps 2.0.1.18, for a while googlemaps was kickass because i am horrible with directions and i could use google maps to get me from point a to point b without getting lost, my GPS fix was great and was always accurate within a few feet even in my basement of my house. then one day a few weeks ago i stopped being able to get a fix, it says seeking gps sattelites(0) and nothing happens. i live in fenton missouri in the states, fenton is just outside of st. louis and i am covered by a 3g network. i live less than 5 miles from three att towers so i see no reason for my googlemaps to have quit on me unless my phone has gone deffective. if anyone has any idea or can atleast tell me that they have had the same problem i will worry less about it and move on without my little blue and white dot that moves along on my map. thanks in advance you guys are great
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I had the same problem with my kaiser all the radios and ROMs in the world wouldnt help, but I got the phone replaced and now it works when using the same radios and ROMs as my previous phone... My bet is that the GPS reciever is broken

you know google maps isnt 100% accurate

thanks that wasn't the answer i wanted but i called att today and they are sending me a refurbished phone, thanks. as for google maps not being 100% accurate, it doesn't have to be, in most places it tells me within a few feet and i use it when i'm driving to new places and i just have to make sure that my little dot is on the purple line or near enough to let me know where i am. i refuse to pay for the crap that att sells because i can get it for free with google maps and i have used it for a year now and this is the first time it failed me, people with telenav complain all the time and this weekend my girlfriend had a run in with a tom tom and it got her lost in the bad side of town my google has never done that

ok so i called att and they sent me a new tilt under warranty, when it arrived the usb port did not work, i could not sync with my computer so i called them and they express shipped me another one after marking the first as DOA. when my second one arrived it had a cracked lcd screen and when people called me i could not hear them and they could not hear me. somewhere in this time frame my GPS fixed itself and they are expecting me to send it to them, do you think they would notice if i sent the three phones they sent me back to them and kept my old one?

tubaking182 said:
ok so i called att and they sent me a new tilt under warranty, when it arrived the usb port did not work, i could not sync with my computer so i called them and they express shipped me another one after marking the first as DOA. when my second one arrived it had a cracked lcd screen and when people called me i could not hear them and they could not hear me. somewhere in this time frame my GPS fixed itself and they are expecting me to send it to them, do you think they would notice if i sent the three phones they sent me back to them and kept my old one?
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Yes because they have identified the phone by the IMEI #. I would call AT&T and explain the situation. Don't see why they wouldn't be accommodating.

i refuse to pay for the crap that att sells because i can get it for free with google maps and i have used it for a year now and this is the first time it failed me, people with telenav complain all the time and this weekend my girlfriend had a run in with a tom tom and it got her lost in the bad side of town my google has never done that
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Google maps didn't fail you, your phone did. Also I don't see what you being near a major city or a cell tower has to do with a satellite cruising through space.

ChumleyEX said:
Google maps didn't fail you, your phone did. Also I don't see what you being near a major city or a cell tower has to do with a satellite cruising through space.
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Google maps can be used without the aid of a GPS. The locations (0) will give you a close location based on the tower(s) location.

alright, thanks ATW i will call them later when i have a chance and try to explain, and congrats on becoming moderator

after flashing ,y phone i lost the use of my GPS on google maps

Irish Diamond problems

hi there
i have a touch diamond that was got from holland , unlocked and unbranded
rom version 1.35.401.3 WWE
using the Meteor pre pay network
last week the when making calls the person at the end of the line can not hear a thing im saying
anything I can do to fix this ?
step by step guides ?
thanks
Joe

Wooo! Another Diamond user in Ireland!
I'm also on Meteor pre-pay, but I have a Diamond from the UK (1.37.405.1 WWE). I've had no problems with calls or texts or anything...apart from mobile internet.
The built-in connection settings for Meteor are just wrong. They don't work at all. The WAP settings are available elsewhere on the internet, but I've managed to acquire (after confusing Meteor customer care quite a lot, because they've obviously never even heard of HTC) working mobile internet settings. The only problem is that their prices are ridiculous (2c per KB)...but at least I can check emails and the weather if I really need to.
If anyone wants the proper Meteor mobile internet settings, just ask (or phone customer care...and be prepared for a long conversation).
Oh, getting back to the original problem, have you tried your device on any other network? I would really doubt that the problem is Meteor-specific, because I've never had any problems using HTC devices on Meteor. BTW, aren't the new pre-pay deals really cool? Not sure about that magic mobile genie though...

Alright lads! Where did you get your Diamonds? and for how much? I'm trying to bring one into Ireland, cheapest way?
I would also hazard a guess that it's a phone specific problem, have you tried flashing a different rom?
Meteor Pre Pay here btw... I'm signed up to the 3G test, I get free 3G till the end of August! woohoo! They'll have PAYG deals when they release to the public in October.

i got it from Capti-lux in hollands airport, phone is great like but need to sort out why people cant hear me on it though ! ha
i ever bothered with the internet settings for it as i use the wireless when needed for emails etc , and the 3g will be out in october
@ DArk fire
what bad are you on ? gsm/umts ...

joe. said:
i got it from Capti-lux in hollands airport, phone is great like but need to sort out why people cant hear me on it though ! ha
i ever bothered with the internet settings for it as i use the wireless when needed for emails etc , and the 3g will be out in october
@ DArk fire
what bad are you on ? gsm/umts ...
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This may be just me, but I would try upgrading the radio. I've had the same issues with some of my other htc phones and it always fixed it for me.

I am on Vodafone and no problem with HTC DT on 3G in Galway. I have flashed it with a Diamond Project ROM including the latest radio and had to fix the access point to hs.vodafone.ie
Got mine on Ebay this week from all4ustore_lv for €450, paid last Friday, got delivered this Tuesday! Scary part is the insurance, it shipped as a memory module with value of £50. If you are a frequent visitor to Paddy Power then I suppose you can take this gamble too...

thehomeofDob said:
Alright lads! Where did you get your Diamonds? and for how much? I'm trying to bring one into Ireland, cheapest way?
I would also hazard a guess that it's a phone specific problem, have you tried flashing a different rom?
Meteor Pre Pay here btw... I'm signed up to the 3G test, I get free 3G till the end of August! woohoo! They'll have PAYG deals when they release to the public in October.
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The cheapest way to get a Diamond is probably to get one from eBay or the UK. Some websites don't like delivering to random countries though, so you might have to physically go to a shop if you don't like the eBay. I wonder if they're available in Northern Ireland - I can't see any reason for them not being available there...
3G test! I heard about that, but as I'm only in Ireland erratically I've never really investigated it. I'm here for a while now though - how did you sign up to the 3G test? On 3G do they still charge that crazy 2c per KB? Also, how good is the 3G network (coverage, speed, etc.)?
joe. said:
@ DArk fire
what bad are you on ? gsm/umts ...
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GSM, unfortunately.

catdog said:
I am on Vodafone and no problem with HTC DT on 3G in Galway. I have flashed it with a Diamond Project ROM including the latest radio and had to fix the access point to hs.vodafone.ie
Got mine on Ebay this week from all4ustore_lv for €450, paid last Friday, got delivered this Tuesday! Scary part is the insurance, it shipped as a memory module with value of £50. If you are a frequent visitor to Paddy Power then I suppose you can take this gamble too...
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how do I go about flashing the phone ? need a good guide if you have it handy thanks

got mine from germany 470€ 3 weeks ago and brought it over to ireland.
did someone tried the o2.ie broadband addon with HSDPA?

joe. said:
how do I go about flashing the phone ? need a good guide if you have it handy thanks
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Flashing in 2 steps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408621
hardspl 1.24
ROM of your choice such as:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407572
Direct download link:
http://duttythroy.net/downloads/ind...DiamProject_V2_5.2.19965_Radio_1.00.25.06.zip
Follow the instructions and backup anything important.

Ordered the Diamond from the UK the day it was released. Upgraded the rom to Dutty's Diamond Project and it works a treat. On O2 network and getting a Gig a month for €15 so thats pretty good. After Flashing with Dutty's ROM I have freed up about 20% more memory so it runs much smoother.

ok ill try and do that over the weekend , thanks all

ok iv seem to have got it working now again

Kalel_k said:
On O2 network and getting a Gig a month for €15 so thats pretty good.
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Is that on some kind of contract?
1GB would cost €20,971.52 on Meteor.

Irish guys, Expansis have some cheap Diamonds as "B" stock, and having just returned from W.Cork visiting me Dad, I recommend TomTom7 to you, the Irish maps are spot on. Wish I was there now.

uniqueboy said:
Irish guys, Expansis have some cheap Diamonds as "B" stock, and having just returned from W.Cork visiting me Dad, I recommend TomTom7 to you, the Irish maps are spot on. Wish I was there now.
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Isn't the "B" stock all of those returned grey imports from HK? Thanks for the tip about TomTom7 in Ireland.

Hey lads, living in the south and I've ordered the Diamond, should have it in a few days.
Up until now I've been using an old Acer n310 (WM5 and no phone capabilities and linked via bluetooth to a GPS module) with iGo 2006 (for about a year) and iGo8 (for the last 2 months). I've been trying TomTom 6 on and off. My job involves driving all around Munster and the iGo maps are far better to the TomTom 6 maps; more complete in terms of small roads, and more road and townland labelling. Also higher accuracy. So I'll be using iGo8 on the Diamond too. I definitely recommend it.
I'd been connecting the Acer to my bluetooth phone to use the internet and get my emails. I'm on O2 billpay and 250mb is €7.50 a month, which is great value. So the Diamond will mean one device instead of 3 for getting my emails, making calls, and navigating around the place.
Isn't there an issue that using alternative ROMs will cause the AGPS to stop working?

TomTom 6 uses the older navtek maps, TomTom7 uses the latest Teleatlas maps, which for W.Cork anyway seemed to have every little road, if you could call it a road. Some of the little lanes in W.Cork just aren't good for your suspension, I mean they are smaller than the width of my car and rougher than the dark side of the moon!

Using TomTom 7 on my Diamond + Uk/Ie Maps been to dublin cork waterford and never had any problems.

joe. said:
ok iv seem to have got it working now again
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Right it seams to be an intermittent problem , could it be something to do with the network signal ?

I know it is annoying to ask, but GPS not working..

I got a 2nd hand diamond from eBay and imidiately face the GPS problem. I used a few HTC phones before. This is the first time.
I tried to read all the threads related to this GPS-not-working issue until this mroning 3AM. I still got no clue what is the definite solution. Can someone point out the direction? Or forum boss may stick it somewhere? Cheers

frank.lui said:
I got a 2nd hand diamond from eBay and imidiately face the GPS problem. I used a few HTC phones before. This is the first time.
I tried to read all the threads related to this GPS-not-working issue until this mroning 3AM. I still got no clue what is the definite solution. Can someone point out the direction? Or forum boss may stick it somewhere? Cheers
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Maybe have a look at this:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36639
I hope something there might help you.
Good Luck!

That is for CDMA?

cdma is a phone system
phone systems have nothing to do with gps it's two 100% separate systems
gps are signals received from satellites
where cmda is signals transitived from and to land-based cellphone towers

Hi!
In case the GPS is working, how usable is it?

Rudegar said:
cdma is a phone system
phone systems have nothing to do with gps it's two 100% separate systems
gps are signals received from satellites
where cmda is signals transitived from and to land-based cellphone towers
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I went through that thread and found some guy like me asked 'my phone is Vodafone ...'. He got a repsonse like 'you use GSM, this is for CDMA. So better you find somewhere else like......XDA-Developer'.....???.....!!! I was confused by that.
So tell me, I can just follow the thread and use the software there to 'cook' my Diamond?
Cheers!

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Hi!
In case the GPS is working, how usable is it?
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Very useful.
I currently use O2 XDA ORBIT. I travell arround the Europe and USA. I always use TTN in my ORBIT. It picks up the signal in seconds. I went to Portugal a few weeks ago and it even picked up signal inside the hotel (I did show that to the waitor and told him 'your roof is a bit thin...').
A few years ago, I rented a car from Hertz together with on-car GPS called 'NeverLost'. It was right to be called NeverLost...because it never picked up the signal.