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So, what's it mean when you run GetDeviceData.Exe and all you get in your ../windows/devicedata.txt file is "PH20B" ?
Strange, huh? I've tried it a couple of times. Always the same... Nothing but "PH20B". I'm also having the "No GSM" in the boot screen problem, and can't upgrade (well, load AT ALL!) my radio stack. In my device info screen the OS and Extended info are right, but Protocal and Radio are both blank now. This has all happened after trying to do a ROM upgrade tonight.
1. What (exactly) device you own? What was DeviceData BEFORE first upgrade?
2. What ROM you had, and which one you tried to load?
3. How did you do that (what procedure)? Have you omitted any steps?
Lets say you really own PH20B (Blueangel) then if the radio is inactive the devicedata.txt will not output the info from it. Reflash radio only
Also this may happen if you have flashed PH20A (Harrier) and you flashed WM5, go back to WM2003 and all will work fine
jakubd said:
1. What (exactly) device you own? What was DeviceData BEFORE first upgrade?
2. What ROM you had, and which one you tried to load?
3. How did you do that (what procedure)? Have you omitted any steps?
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1: It is a HTC BlueAngel. It's one of those with just "PocketPC" on the front. No cell provider branding. I bought it off ebay last year. Don't know what the file showed before. Never had a problem, so I never looked.
2: Was running a I-Mate ROM since I bought it. But the radio was really old. The radio version was like .9xx . Don't remember exactly what. SHould have written it down. But it was less than 1.00, I know that for sure. I was upgrading to the Siemens 1.33 ROM with the 1.15 radio added on.
3: Used MaUpgradUt_NoID. Never been able to use BaUpgradeUt. It's always given a country ID error, but Ma..NoID has always worked before.
xplode said:
Lets say you really own PH20B (Blueangel) then if the radio is inactive the devicedata.txt will not output the info from it. Reflash radio only
Also this may happen if you have flashed PH20A (Harrier) and you flashed WM5, go back to WM2003 and all will work fine
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Yes. It is a blue angel for sure. See my reply above.
It's always been WM2003, and all I get when I try to flash ANY radio rom version to it now is a country ID error.
flash with noid app
maupgradeut_noid.exe
Yep. Already tried that. In fact, that's the ONLY way I've been able to do any upgrades at all since I bought the phone. Never have found a ROM that would work with BAupgradeUt.exe. Strange thing is, I can load the OS and EXT ROM's no problem using Ma..NoID.exe... Just not the Radio ROM. Even using NoID when I try to load a Radio ROM, it dies with a country code error. I believe the error is N-N-50-50-50 if that means anything to anyone. Any more ideas? I've tried all the obvious things I could think of. I wonder if maybe I could use a null data field in editfix.bat? That is, instead of using real data values from devicedata.txt like you normally would, replace the "???" in the .bat file with " ". Anyone know if that's even possible? Or should I just try taking it up to WM5, then back to 2003?
Thanks for all the thought and effort so far folks.
i have tried the SSPL and it works, i can flash the 3 roms i have found for the breeze
RUU_BREE100_1.13.251.2_1.06.00.10_QtekEUR_Ship_R3
RUU_BREE100_1.32.251.1_1.29.00.10_HTC
RUU_BREE100_1.34.251.1_1.38.00.10_HTCEUR_SHIP
but since i flashed the 1.38 radio rom without using this sspl. whenever i use the sspl i can only flash the rom not the radio. my phone is now stuck on the 1.38 radio which drops calls after about 30 mins and the battery life is really crap, i am on area where u get full 2g or 1 bar of 3g so its doing its trademark searching and killing the battery.
I have tried duttys tool with the radio extracted and put on the SD card and flashed but no joy.
my device is not SuperCID i just use the SSPL to bypass it.
anyone got any ideas how i can flash the 1.29 radio or for that fact any radio to phone instead of the rom?
i've read that many have tried 1.20 radio to solve a few problems but i have no idea how i can flash this. I have tried to make my own rom with the tools here but again they just flash the new OS living the radio 1.38.00.10. i am downloading RUU_Radinly_1.20.31.10.exe and will flash it if i knew how. SSPL just turns around and says invalid ID error 244. so its like the radio isn't designed for this device.
anyone got any idea ?
1.29 is even worse than 1.38... Missed calls in full GSM coverage (4 bars), horrible sound quality (either you or called party can't hear most of the conversation)... Don't even try it!
And concerning the problem not being able to flash new radio:
As I already wrote in this thread, flashing Radio ROM 1.29 (and above) also flashes new Radio Bootloader 0108 (different thing than Phone bootloader) which requires SPL 1.09 (or newer) to flash Radio ROMs.
Current SSPL for Breeze is based on some older SPL which, as you found out, isn't compatible. Until someone creates SSPL for Breeze based on SPL 1.09 or SPL 1.10, you're stuck just like me...
thanks very much for the post explaining it. i have read someone might make a new sspl with the new spl's in mind so as you said, we have to wait and i guess i will. i am however going to send my breeze back to HTC because of the constant dropping of calls whether it is 10seconds or 35 mins, it drops it without fail.
Aloha everyone,
I have tried to not post for about 3 weeks but I just can't move forward. I have read and tried to follow everything on the site but I am just confused. I know this is a developers site and I am very intimiated to be castigated by you guys but...it's the internet so what the hell.
I have found numberous instruction threads pertaining to updating ROMS on the Wizard. It seems that up until recently there was only one way to do things but now there are many. As I try to answer questions I come into conflict over which way I shoudl be heading.
I currently have a working WIZ100 that boots with IPL 2.21.0001 SPL 2.21.0lip with GSM 2.25.11 and OS 2.25.11.1. I somehow got to this point, I think by following the instructions to get hardSPL on my device and booting on startup. I did not know if I next needed to find a ROM and if so then how to get that ROM activated on my device or what programs to do this with. I know that the threads spell it out but the threads pertain only to direct assumptions; the assumption that my head is not in my ass.
I wanted to attempt to put a new rom on here, for fun and to play around with something new. Perhaps increase reliability or to get WM6 going. I am stuck now though. Part of me wants to turn back and load the original ROM from the HTC site and the other part of me wants to try a new ROM as I already have this thing booting to the 0lip SPL.
Is anyone out there willing to help me either via this thread, personal message or IM?
Since you have already installed Hard SPL you should be safe to go ahead and pick virtually any ROM you choose on there. I don't have a lot of experience with Hard SPL yet, except for installing it on my kaiser, but the one thing I would guess that you should make sure that the ROM you want to flash doesn't have would be an IPL/SPL update included. As far as I know, I don't think any of the public ones that you find on here have them but make sure you read the chef of the ROM's entire post to make sure. And, if you magically happen to find my ROM somewhere, which you shouldn't since I only gave it to 2 people to try, don't flash it because mine does include an IPL/SPL update.
From my best understanding you have already loaded HardSPL and now are CID unlocked. If this is the case then I would recommend going forward and flashing a new rom to your device. Just go to the Wizard Mobile 6 thread and find one you like, and flash it.
Simple as that.
I appreciate your replies.
1) I am clarified like butter! What program do I download and use to flash the ROM to the Wiz, this has been a source of confusion for me.
2) If I download and install the HTC Cingular ROM from HTC, will that overwrite the HardSPL and return my phone to Factory Default, including the radio areas? In other words do I rid myself of 2.21.0lip?
Thanks for not beating my head in...very polite you devs are...
I like beating people's heads in, and you are far too polite, that I am actually having a very slight guilty twinge! Damn you. I have a G3 myself so I cannot help much, however, I found this sticky which may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320
I do know that once you choose your rom, you open the folder and run the item marked as ruu.
Now if you only had a G3, then I could fry you like the noob you are.
I suppose at some point, I should make a point of reading/learning about G4's. I know they are a far different animal from my G3.
That's the reason I said not to flash a ROM that contained an IPL/SPL upgrade since there is the possibility that it may overwrite Hard SPL, although I'm not positive of that, but better safe than sorry especially if it it's not an official ROM that carries the correct IPL/SPL format for a G4. If it doesn't contain the correct format for a G4 it could ruin your phone. If you flash an official ROM though and it overwrites it you can always just reinstall Hard SPL again and keep flashing. I hope this makes sense.
As for the files you need to flash a new ROM, they're usually included with the ROM. If they're not then just let me know and I'll upload them for you.
Good that you asked before damaging your (expensive) device...
Every Flash version comes with a RUU (Rom Update Utility) you just run that proggy and it does the rest.
To make it easier, look for a rom that states it's G4 safe (no IPL/SPL included), so you don't have to mess around with the inner files. If you want to, begin your tests with the TNT series, the latest build, stated in my sig is G4 safe, after that you'll be able to know the initial procedure.
Good Luck.
Thanks for the info.
Do I execute the ruu from Windows XP or from the SD card ont he device?
Why am I have a hard time searching for and finding TNT 5.2.1921 TouchFlo ROM?
The rom update utlity gives me an error when I try to update. Should I try to do all this from the sd card?
Well, I am plugging along. I rebooted after an error 300 came up on the rom utility. Any suggestions for me?
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
If you have ROM on your desktop, Connect your phone to your computer via USB, open up Activesync, uncheck the check box in settings that allows USB connections. Make sure you have at least 50% battery, then put your phone into bootloader mode. (soft reset while holding down the camera button- keep holding the button for 5 sec.) a tri-color RGB screen should come up. This is boot loader mode. Then run the rom update utility program, and everything is automatic from there on. once it is done flashing the phone will restart itself.
Thresher said:
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
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Try it and find out. I'd kind of like to know the answer to that one too, although my phones a G3 and already CID unlocked anyway. You can always reinstall Hard SPL over again if it does.
So this worked out well for me overall. Installing HardSPL to my G4, and then using a correct bootloader with the right ROM (to review).
I am having one issue.
I have the OEM ROM, however the RUU gives me an error. Is there a documented way to restore the phone to an original status? Is it even necessary?
I ask due to problems since my upgrade to the TNT rom. I am noticing a lot of missed calls and people have complained. Is this an issue with the 8125 and the particular ROM?
I don't know what to ask, or how to search for this. Thanks for any input you can offer.
Otherwise the TNT rom is awesome. I do miss the voice dialing though. Thats another search.
Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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So the Rom is broken up into major parts. Those parts must ineract with one another, so that would be why my radio version may be at cause?
Yep. The ROM can contain the IPL, SPL, OS, Splash Screens, GSM (the radio), and extended ROM, any of which can be changed or upgraded individually without affecting the other parts of the ROM (for all intents and purposes anyway). That means you can change your radio version without it deleting all of your settings or your installed apps in your OS, etc etc.
Since you still upgrade each individual part using a RUU that is able to update any of the parts you still get a warning when you run it that it will delete all of your files, but as long as the update that you're running doesn't include a new OS you can ignore those warnings.
I decided to back out of the entire upgrade and move back to WM5 Official Cingular HTC ROM. I am stoked that I now know the full process of taking a G4 through hardSPL, ROM updates and restoral.
I was too scared to try any radio updates or fixes. Maybe when I upgrade phones I will come back to playing with the 8125 but for now, I just need a good functioning phone for work.
Do these Cingular radio fix cabs apply to a standard phone or only to upgraded ones?
I'm trying to downgrade my radio firmware, but everytime I flash a lower version number radio it does not seem to take.
The flash completes fully, but when I look at the version number it is still at 1.54.30.10 which I am trying to replace with either 1.54.07.00 or 1.47.30.10.
Anyone know why this is happening and how I can reflash my radio?
xrufusx said:
I'm trying to downgrade my radio firmware, but everytime I flash a lower version number radio it does not seem to take.
The flash completes fully, but when I look at the version number it is still at 1.54.30.10 which I am trying to replace with either 1.54.07.00 or 1.47.30.10.
Anyone know why this is happening and how I can reflash my radio?
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Use MTTY and do a "Task 2a" then flash an official ROM.
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Use MTTY and do a "Task 2a" then flash an official ROM.
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That didn't work. The Radio version still is the same.
Any other ideas or maybe I just need more specific directions?
My phone is unlocked with the CheetahUnlocker (which I believe uses the HardSPL.)
xrufusx said:
I'm trying to downgrade my radio firmware, but everytime I flash a lower version number radio it does not seem to take.
The flash completes fully, but when I look at the version number it is still at 1.54.30.10 which I am trying to replace with either 1.54.07.00 or 1.47.30.10.
Anyone know why this is happening and how I can reflash my radio?
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Where does the 1.54.30.10 Radio ROM come from?
Palm or Hermes?
chaimd said:
Where does the 1.54.30.10 Radio ROM come from?
Palm or Hermes?
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I believe it is a Hermes.
I'm sorry. I don't know the version of Hermes's ROM for recovering.
If you would be lucky, you might find it.
I have not done recover from Locked Hermes's Radio,
because I never flash Hermes's Radio to my Treo750.
chaimd said:
I'm sorry. I don't know the version of Hermes's ROM for recovering.
If you would be lucky, you might find it.
I have not done recover from Locked Hermes's Radio,
because I never flash Hermes's Radio to my Treo750.
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How about radio 1.54.07 chaimd? I got it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1563015&postcount=1
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How about radio 1.54.07 chaimd? I got it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1563015&postcount=1
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I don't recommend 1.54.xx.xx.
Perhaps, Unlocked 1.48.xx.xx from Hermes might be able to downgrade.
My friends, who unlocked Treo750's SPL 6M before Hard-SPL, have several Treo750s.
One of his Treo750 has a fully locked Hermes's Radio. We can't reflash its Radio.
Is there any way through mtty to erase the radio rom so it will reload when a new rom is flashed?
Haven't really seen a definite answer here to the original post...
I actually am trying to do the exact opposite of the OP.
I currently have Radio: 1.54.07.00 and am wanting to upgrade to the 1.54.30.00 but can't do it anyway I try whether it's using RUU interface or placing on a formatted SD card and changing it to CHEEIMG.nbh.
It runs through the process, and acts as if it is updating/changing the Radio Rom, but nothing changes.
Can I change my Radio or not?
Treo 750 unlocked w/ CheetahUnlocker and Running WM6.1 Full version.
Thanks for the help!
btw, I read a lot of threads and posts... and read the Heremes Radio Wiki - just can't seem to find a definitive answer. Also when I flashed the Radio after using CheetahUnlocker it flashed the Radio w/o issue.
Run through the cheetahunlocker again (all stages, regardless if they error out).
Then use the kaiserRUU to load the new radio .nbh
tmknight said:
Run through the cheetahunlocker again (all stages, regardless if they error out).
Then use the kaiserRUU to load the new radio .nbh
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Thanks tmknight... you're always helpful!
cheetahunlocker won't erase all my stuff on the treo if I recall correctly, right???
i'm pretty sure it won't, but it's been a while since I used it last...
thanks again
Please,after flash any version ROM and APPLY CheetahUnlocker (WM5 or WM6) my TREO view in Setting/System/About this:
WHAT IS WRONG???
EDIT:
With flash WM5,treo is VERY SLOW.....croling,open menu etc. se this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=384531
With flash WM6 all O.K
Bootloader is CRASH?
After rest treo view error services.exe,slow thumbail on images not work AS synchronize NOT WORK and many
BUGs..HELP PLEASE
The problem
As alluded to by Chaimd, that particular radio is locked and will not allow for radio flashing unless an SPL is loaded which can perform an authentication function. I'm 99% sure no one has modified a cheetah SPL to do so. Someone like pof or olipro (oh boy are they gonna kill me for this) would be familiar with problem, but unlikely inclined to work on it since they don't have this device.
I haven't seen any workable method around it. The cheetah bootloader doesn't support task 2a.
sux...
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Is there any way through mtty to erase the radio rom so it will reload when a new rom is flashed?
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No sir. The rest of this response is merely to reach the minimum 10 character limit. meh.
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Run through the cheetahunlocker again (all stages, regardless if they error out).
Then use the kaiserRUU to load the new radio .nbh
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Well, after many attempts - this does not work for me.
I can't even get to Step 3 of the CheetahUnlocker...it errors out after Step 2, and does not let me continue.
I read something about once you flash the 1.54.xx.xx Radio Rom you can't change it b/c the Cheetahunlocker has been able to authenticate the newer Radio roms or something like that... is that true??? It seems so, b/c I can't seem to get it to work.
any advice?
thanks again
I also have 1.54.01.00 but I don't know how i got this radio firmware, not a single internet connection on my treo is possible. No matter the version of Win Mob (6 6.1) I use, my Treo 750 just won't transfer data over either 3g or gprs. Calls / sms are possible though.
Wich rom causes to load 1.54.01.00 radio firmware on my treo 750 ? I really wanna know what i did wrong.
Well for everyone that is stuck with that nasty 1.54.01.00 i may have a solution.
I managed to downgrade my treo 750 radio firmware to 1.12.0c.00.
!!!AT OWN RISK!!!
-Run cheetahunlocker only step 1
-continue till the bootscreen (3 colors)
-Removed USB cable
-Don't click Start Update!
Ran official Desktop updater from palm (update version 2.27)
-Went to Temp files (Start --> execute --> type: %temp%
-Went to Palm dir --> 750RecoveryTool dir (is hidden) --> open T750URT (
treo 750 update recovery tool)
-Follow on screen instructions.. After this is got a rather old radio version
Will now try to run the Normal update again.
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Well, after many attempts - this does not work for me.
I can't even get to Step 3 of the CheetahUnlocker...it errors out after Step 2, and does not let me continue.
I read something about once you flash the 1.54.xx.xx Radio Rom you can't change it b/c the Cheetahunlocker has been able to authenticate the newer Radio roms or something like that... is that true??? It seems so, b/c I can't seem to get it to work.
any advice?
thanks again
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Sorry mate, seems it cannot be done with existing tools. I decided 1.54.30.10 is not very stabled and have tried several cobbled together methods to downgrade to 1.54.01.00, all with no success. Seems we must wait for someone with more skills and time to break this one open.
vollemaan said:
Well for everyone that is stuck with that nasty 1.54.01.00 i may have a solution.
I managed to downgrade my treo 750 radio firmware to 1.12.0c.00.
!!!AT OWN RISK!!!
-Run cheetahunlocker only step 1
-continue till the bootscreen (3 colors)
-Removed USB cable
-Don't click Start Update!
Ran official Desktop updater from palm (update version 2.27)
-Went to Temp files (Start --> execute --> type: %temp%
-Went to Palm dir --> 750RecoveryTool dir (is hidden) --> open T750URT (
treo 750 update recovery tool)
-Follow on screen instructions.. After this is got a rather old radio version
Will now try to run the Normal update again.
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Nice find dude. Now there's hope for all who are stucked with radio 154xxx
Hello.
First, sorry for my bad English (French guy).
I make a SD flash with a Rom, and something strange occurs: my radio rom version change to 1.16.00.00. I try (always SD flash) to change it with a newer, the process looks good (the download bar increase, the device reboot) but the radio rom version always the same. I try to change OS rom, no problem. I try to change SPL version, impossible: all process executed without error but at the next load of SPL (power-camera-reset) the version is always the same (1.30 Olipro).
I try with another computer (Win XP pro SP2) and with activSync, the problem was the same !
And I try with several rom version, idem.
So to be quick
OS ROM change: no problem
SPL change: impossible
Radio ROM change: impossible
If someone have an idea, I will be very happy
Bye
I find the solution !
Usually, I toogle in SPL mode manually.
The soluce for me was to downgrade the SPL (1.30 to 1.20 olipro) but let the RUU launch is own SPL.
And after, the SPL version was 1.20 and I can change ROM, Radio ROM etc...
[Mode happy ON]
Bye
Hi, can you post the procedure please? I have the same problem!!!
But your pda statup?
Thx
Roby
i don't understand how that is accomplished.
i have read through the trinity guide and that is what they recommended
My trinity has been flashed with 1.3oli and a custom rom but it hangs at the start up page.This makes the device disconnect from the USB.
so how do i let the RUU launch its own SPL?
It is supposed to make the device go into bootloader right? i cant access that since it is hanged
Advice please
Hi bigrockshow,
it is impossible, in this condition that rru launch its SSPL, and it is ipossible to use the method sspl.exe ....
I think that the only way is the splxploit but I don't find a sspl file to load on p3600 with splxploit
anyone have it?
I've exactly the same problem, oli 1.30, I can flash OS roms with no problem but I can't get a radio rom to go past 0%.
I've tried the spl exploit to boot into spl 1.07, I've tried going into the bootloader manually and I've tried letting the RUU load the SPL, no matter what I do I can't shift the radio from 1.16?
Any ideas?
mine is just wierd...
i used SPLxploit and the spl jumps to 3.03...
tried to flash hard SPL and its has error 270...
so i did SPLxploit again...
shows SPL 1.20 now
Tried to flash another rom and it still doesnt work..
did i miss something or is my dopod screwed...
You can't upgrade to the 1.56.70.11 Radio with Olipro 1.3. It looks like it's worked and gets to 100% on mine but doesn't actually change anything. I ended up using another HardSPL (can't remember the name now) to get the 1.56.70.11 Radio on there.
I looked for ages for a version of Olipro 1.2 but couldn't find one anywhere. Apparently it works ok with that version.
Sometimes these threads are really hard to follow when they get massive and the author updates the first posts and over writes stuff. I think they should all keep old stuff in there and just add too it instead of replacing information.