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If I can get one quick answer for how many times I might be torn apart for asking that would be great. Friday I added a new line to my family plan to get the evo. I am trying to put my hero running fresh 2.1.2 on another line that is one my account. I got it at Radio Shack and they had no idea what they were doing and screwed up my account. After a day and a half I finally got the accounts switched and when I activated the 3g wont come on the hero. I have all needed codes and have spent about 7 hours total trying to get it working. I am thinking about flashing back to stock but don't want to if not needed. Any help or at least a direction to be pointed. All else fails, I'm going to the sprint store.
Try it. Use the 2.1 ruu .exe in the 2.1 root guide. DONT DONT DONT accept the OTA when you boot or you can't reroot. Use the UNREVOKED.apk to one click root again.
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Try it. Use the 2.1 ruu .exe in the 2.1 root guide. DONT DONT DONT accept the OTA when you boot or you can't reroot. Use the UNREVOKED.apk to one click root again.
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Good looking out. Going to do it right now. Just out of curiosity, has anyone else had trouble switching accounts on a rooted phone
Not that IV heard.
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Not that IV heard.
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Yeah, I'm thinking i was cause where I bought it. The people I got it from RadioShack had no idea what they were doing. They thought I was crazy when I asked them to switch some esn's around. When I talked to sprint they said radioshack had been screwing up alot of accounts. So if are buying from there, have them do nothing but sale you the phone and activate it. Heading to sprint, quick question, if I go in there with a rooted hero will they trip?
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Yeah, I'm thinking i was cause where I bought it. The people I got it from RadioShack had no idea what they were doing. They thought I was crazy when I asked them to switch some esn's around. When I talked to sprint they said radioshack had been screwing up alot of accounts. So if are buying from there, have them do nothing but sale you the phone and activate it. Heading to sprint, quick question, if I go in there with a rooted hero will they trip?
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Depends on who's working and how obvious it is.
Usually they're dumb enough to believe you when you say "Oh, it's an app I found"
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Yeah, I'm thinking i was cause where I bought it. The people I got it from RadioShack had no idea what they were doing. They thought I was crazy when I asked them to switch some esn's around. When I talked to sprint they said radioshack had been screwing up alot of accounts. So if are buying from there, have them do nothing but sale you the phone and activate it. Heading to sprint, quick question, if I go in there with a rooted hero will they trip?
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This has nothing to do with the phone being rooted.
FYI indirect dealers like radio shack don't have the full ability to switch around esns among lines on an account.
Basically three things have to happen:
first you have to free up existing phones on existing lines. (only sprint can really do this, save for doing an upgrade)
second you have to change the account to reflect the new phones on the new lines. (indirect dealers CAN do this once the line is freed up)
third: you have to initiate either an auto ota programming, or use unlock codes to edit the mobile identification number and your mobile directory number (these are both usually your phone number, but sometimes the MDN is not) Again, only sprint can do this as they have the unlock codes.
Your RS rep probably didn't realize this, and only changed around your account as needed. Now, true, they should have just called Sprint and made sure, or had you make a call on the hero to make sure it was working right... but let's be fair, I'll bet at some point in your life you made a mistake where you thought you knew what you were doing and it turns out you didn't.
Line switches like this aren't common requests at indirect dealers. They mainly handle new account and upgrades.
I work at a Radio Shack and we regularly switch lines around like that, we do have to call it in to Sprint though. As with anywhere it's rarely the company and more the person working that's stupid.
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This has nothing to do with the phone being rooted.
FYI indirect dealers like radio shack don't have the full ability to switch around esns among lines on an account.
Basically three things have to happen:
first you have to free up existing phones on existing lines. (only sprint can really do this, save for doing an upgrade)
second you have to change the account to reflect the new phones on the new lines. (indirect dealers CAN do this once the line is freed up)
third: you have to initiate either an auto ota programming, or use unlock codes to edit the mobile identification number and your mobile directory number (these are both usually your phone number, but sometimes the MDN is not) Again, only sprint can do this as they have the unlock codes.
Your RS rep probably didn't realize this, and only changed around your account as needed. Now, true, they should have just called Sprint and made sure, or had you make a call on the hero to make sure it was working right... but let's be fair, I'll bet at some point in your life you made a mistake where you thought you knew what you were doing and it turns out you didn't.
Line switches like this aren't common requests at indirect dealers. They mainly handle new account and upgrades.[/QUOT
I sell att, verizon and tmobile for costco. I sell a lot of phones, but I've never sold a phone and sent the customer away with out the phone working and them to figure it out themselves. I usually reward salesman that overachieve and work for their commission by buying as much as i can. On the other hand I don't like to give credit that doubt know about what their selling. In other words, know what your selling, I always do and I've sold just about everything.
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I'm not sure if this is in the right forum, but after discovering we now have simcard toolkit on g1 I thought of an idea.
I have two simcards, one for business and one for personal, now... usually I'll keep my business card in and switch every so often to check my personal.
I have thought of buying a dual sim adaptor but it would mean cutting into the card for the g1 as far as I'm aware and I can't risk that going wrong for loss of sim.
I also dont have any equipment able to make a duplicate simcard from a blank.
SO.. My idea is this, would it be at all possible to insert a simcard in, then, using some kind of software, copy the details to phone, then emulate that sim as though it's still inserted, while at the same time using another physical simcard and use them both using simcard toolkit?
Not sure if this is even possible or been suggested before but it seems like a nice idea.
Thanks for taking time to read, I look forward to replies that could save me time and my battery cover
Do you realize the implications of this? someone could go to the bathroom for two minutes, you could effectively "clone" someones number all too easily... I dont think this is possible, and even if it is, it probably wont get done. but hey, I've been wrong before.
that is true, but then they could also simply just as easily take your sim or phone away if they wanted that and replace it with a dud sim.
if they wanted it so bad they would find a way no matter.
thanks for your reply
maybe if it is done it should have a time limit, like you have to leave the sim in the phone for more than 6/12 hours before it becomes cloneable... that'd effectively get rid of that 2 mins scenario.
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that is true, but then they could also simply just as easily take your sim or phone away if they wanted that and replace it with a dud sim.
if they wanted it so bad they would find a way no matter.
thanks for your reply
maybe if it is done it should have a time limit, like you have to leave the sim in the phone for more than 6/12 hours before it becomes cloneable... that'd effectively get rid of that 2 mins scenario.
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well, i dont know the carrier would deal with the sim EVER being registered twice on the network at the same time, It would probably Void both the real SIM and the "Cloned" one would probably be rendered useless too.
to do what you want would involve modifying the radio, which would be near impossible without source, and would almost certainly be illegal
join the Mi6 or some other agency above the law
haha ok.
is there any way to dualsim with an adaptor on g1 that DOESNT involve 'slicing' the simcard then?
mod- please move topic to relevent space as question has been answered.
Great idea! But according to my knowledge of how sim cards work, its not possible due to the mechanism the it use to authenticate.
clvv said:
Great idea! But according to my knowledge of how sim cards work, its not possible due to the mechanism the it use to authenticate.
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its such a shame
You should probably realize that it would completely defeat the whole purpose of HAVING a simcard.
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You should probably realize that it would completely defeat the whole purpose of HAVING a simcard.
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that could be seen as a plus, if your simcard were to be damaged you wouldnt have to wait for a replacement to be sent out by your carrier
Yeah, fake software simcard emulators, criminals rejoice!
Sometimes there is actually a good reason for 'dated' stuff like simcards
BTW lover said:
Yeah, fake software simcard emulators, criminals rejoice!
Sometimes there is actually a good reason for 'dated' stuff like simcards
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i do see your point but it'd be alot easier for people with genuine uses for it as myself.
you'd need the original card in, maybe you'd have to swap over every night;
copy simcard1 and use with toolkit with simcard2, at nighttime it expires and you can copy simcard2 and use real simcard1 together.
I do think its a really good idea and i'm sure with safeguards in place it'll help alot of us business users and users with dual sims needing to carry 2 phones.
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that could be seen as a plus, if your simcard were to be damaged you wouldnt have to wait for a replacement to be sent out by your carrier
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No, that would NEVER be a plus, because if that was possible, CARRIERS WOULD REJECT THEM, and if THAT were to happen, then phone makers would build in all the IDs, and we would be back to the same old nightmare as we had with CDMA -- that you HAVE NO CHOICE but to buy the phone your CARRIER happens to sell for whatever inflated price they FEEL LIKE charging, and with WHATEVER LENGTH of contract they feel like sticking to you.
I'm afraid that you are COMPLETELY MISTAKEN. The proprietary-junk-stuck-on-simcard is OUR ADVANTAGE because it means that the proprietary junk IS SEPARATE from the phone itself!
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No, that would NEVER be a plus, because if that was possible, CARRIERS WOULD REJECT THEM, and if THAT were to happen, then phone makers would build in all the IDs, and we would be back to the same old nightmare as we had with CDMA -- that you HAVE NO CHOICE but to buy the phone your CARRIER happens to sell for whatever inflated price they FEEL LIKE charging, and with WHATEVER LENGTH of contract they feel like sticking to you.
I'm afraid that you are COMPLETELY MISTAKEN. The proprietary-junk-stuck-on-simcard is OUR ADVANTAGE because it means that the proprietary junk IS SEPARATE from the phone itself!
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but how would the carrier know?
Or you could get a phone like this:
http://www.amazon.com/General-DSTL1-Imaginary-Technology-megapixel/dp/B002KRXX46
http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/16/sciphones-android-toting-n21-unboxed-dual-sim-slots-caught-roc/
http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/10/23/moto.zeppelin.would.be.touch.only/
you could get a dual simcard adapter for some dollars ~max. 20$ at ebay. you can select them in the simcard property app that every phone has. you put your both simcards into that thingy und tadaaa- 2 simcards in 1 phone. just search for dual sim card at ebay ;D
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Or you could get a phone like this:
http://www.amazon.com/General-DSTL1-Imaginary-Technology-megapixel/dp/B002KRXX46
http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/16/sciphones-android-toting-n21-unboxed-dual-sim-slots-caught-roc/
http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/10/23/moto.zeppelin.would.be.touch.only/
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That last one is not dual GSM. It is CDMA and GSM.
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HOW DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD KNOW?
Because (1) their web search monkeys will find evidence that simcards are not secure, (2) they have the same simcard registered in multiple different places that are not even close physically.
Just because YOUR intention is not to commit fraud does NOT mean that OTHERS would share your intentions. Once the concept of "simcards" is found to be unsecure, they're gone, and this would be BAD FOR EVERYONE.
Perhaps I should help you to understand simcards a bit better.
The simcard is NOT JUST a data storage device. The simcard, or more properly, the SMARTCARD (same like used for satellite TV's and credit cards) is a lot more than just a chunk of flash memory. It has a CPU, it has RAM, yes it has flash memory or something similar, it has a cryptographic processor, and a PLA. When it is powered up, it BOOTS UP like every other computer -- runs the PROGRAM stored on its NVM. When something INTERFACES with it, it doesn't interface with a raw chunk of flash memory, it interfaces with the CPU, which reacts to specific COMMANDS according to the PROGRAM that it is running. This chip is designed for the purpose of encrypting and decrypting the packets of data that are sent to it, and the encryption it uses is STRONG and CUSTOM. EVEN if you got hold of the CPU through whatever means and were able to duplicate the NVM, figure out WHAT CPU it happens to be that they selected, and duplicate it in software, YOUR PHONE is CERTAINLY nowhere near powerful enough to duplicate its function. Especially since (1) you don't know what is programmed into the PLA, and (2) that cryptographic processor is WIDE, i.e. 1024 bit, so though it certainly is POSSIBLE to duplicate its functions on a 32bit CPU, it would be ****SLOW**** -- so slow that the NEXT SET OF DATA would be REQUIRED before the first set is finished being processed.
moved to q&a section.
thank you for improving my knowledge of simcards.
i know now it isnt possible, the phones shown earlier look very nice, but would they support custom roms?
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HOW DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD KNOW?
Because (1) their web search monkeys will find evidence that simcards are not secure, (2) they have the same simcard registered in multiple different places that are not even close physically.
Just because YOUR intention is not to commit fraud does NOT mean that OTHERS would share your intentions. Once the concept of "simcards" is found to be unsecure, they're gone, and this would be BAD FOR EVERYONE.
Perhaps I should help you to understand simcards a bit better.
The simcard is NOT JUST a data storage device. The simcard, or more properly, the SMARTCARD (same like used for satellite TV's and credit cards) is a lot more than just a chunk of flash memory. It has a CPU, it has RAM, yes it has flash memory or something similar, it has a cryptographic processor, and a PLA. When it is powered up, it BOOTS UP like every other computer -- runs the PROGRAM stored on its NVM. When something INTERFACES with it, it doesn't interface with a raw chunk of flash memory, it interfaces with the CPU, which reacts to specific COMMANDS according to the PROGRAM that it is running. This chip is designed for the purpose of encrypting and decrypting the packets of data that are sent to it, and the encryption it uses is STRONG and CUSTOM. EVEN if you got hold of the CPU through whatever means and were able to duplicate the NVM, figure out WHAT CPU it happens to be that they selected, and duplicate it in software, YOUR PHONE is CERTAINLY nowhere near powerful enough to duplicate its function. Especially since (1) you don't know what is programmed into the PLA, and (2) that cryptographic processor is WIDE, i.e. 1024 bit, so though it certainly is POSSIBLE to duplicate its functions on a 32bit CPU, it would be ****SLOW**** -- so slow that the NEXT SET OF DATA would be REQUIRED before the first set is finished being processed.
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Apologies if this has been addressed but I have been trying on and off to get this going all week now with no luck.
A friend sold me a "dead" AT&T Galaxy Tab for a good price that he got from someone at work who tried to flash it to make voice calls.
The Tab starts up with the Samsung GT splash and plays a little melody but shows no video at all. All I can get it to do is show the phone--yellow triangle + exclamation point--PC screen. It will power off if the power button is held down.
I assume it's the victim of a bad flash but I don't know if it's truly bricked or not--I am new to Samsung ROMs and GSM devices in general.
Perusing the forums here revealed Roto's stock AT&T firmware as well as the links to Odin 1.7 and Heimdall 1.1.1. I assume I need to do a full reflash of this thing but I didn't want to get too adventurous out of fear of making the problem worse than it is already so I haven't tried to flas anything yet. I fiddled around and got the proper drivers installed from Samsung and Odin shows the yellow box on the far left.
I am fine with getting this thing back working on AT&T stock firmware for now. I will then play with it and if I like it, I'll look at getting more adventurous with ROMs on it like Overcome or CM7.
Many thanks!!!
It can be recovered.
Get Odin from samfirmware.com, find the p1_hidden.pit (its in the forums somewhere) and download a Roto rom and flash them
That should bring the life back into your tab.
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This happened with me as well. For some reason odin was failing, only took me 30min to turn the tab off and on for it to work with odin
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Well, after a bit of fiddling with the Tab and Odin, I am glad to say I got this sucker re-flashed. Whew! Time to start playing with it.
Quite impressive little device, I must say, especially for what I paid for it. MANY thanks to Ganj for the quick advice.
One more quick question:
I'm not an AT&T user and this thing didn't come with a SIM card. Can I just buy a regular AT&T 3G SIM from E-Bay (for a buck or whatever) or does this one require a specific prepaid and/or data-only AT&T SIM? Can I just activate a regular AT&T SIM under a prepaid plan on AT&T's web site?
I will use it on wi-fi 99.9% of the time and have no interest in using the Tab for Texting or voice regardless of ROM, but it would be nice to have 3G data "just in case" while traveling. Thanks again!
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Well, after a bit of fiddling with the Tab and Odin, I am glad to say I got this sucker re-flashed. Whew! Time to start playing with it.
Quite impressive little device, I must say, especially for what I paid for it. MANY thanks to Ganj for the quick advice.
One more quick question:
I'm not an AT&T user and this thing didn't come with a SIM card. Can I just buy a regular AT&T 3G SIM from E-Bay (for a buck or whatever) or does this one require a specific prepaid and/or data-only AT&T SIM? Can I just activate a regular AT&T SIM under a prepaid plan on AT&T's web site?
I will use it on wi-fi 99.9% of the time and have no interest in using the Tab for Texting or voice regardless of ROM, but it would be nice to have 3G data "just in case" while traveling. Thanks again!
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I use t-mobile, so I can't speak 100% on the AT&T topic, but yes, all you would need to do is take it to AT&T, or the website, and activate a data plan for it.
Good buy, and even better buy now that you got it working. Good stuff, great to hear stories like this.
Just because I'm curious, what did you pay for it?
Yup, thanks again to everyone for helping me figure this one out.
I was originally planning on waiting for something like the HTC Flyer or a 7 "next-gen" tablet running Honeycomb but when this offer came along I just could not pass it up, as the asking price was just $250 "as is" and the unit is in mint condition cosmetically and included the charger and USB cable. I popped in one of my spare microSD cards and after getting this thing reflashed, I am all set!
I love the Galaxy Tab's formfactor, even more so than my Nook Color (which is now gonna go up for sale soon), so I figured I'd take a chance on a supposedly bricked device. And I'm glad I took that chance, as it let me "graduate" to a GT from the NC.
just a warning: there have been reports of non tab sims (ie users putting the sim from their galaxy s into the tab) being forced to pay for the data they use on the tab. how do they know? roumers say IMEI
brilldoctor said:
just a warning: there have been reports of non tab sims (ie users putting the sim from their galaxy s into the tab) being forced to pay for the data they use on the tab. how do they know? roumers say IMEI
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T-mobile just prevents data usage if the IMEI doesn't match the data plan. Not sure about at&t, but seems doubtful... Now if your APN isn't right you can encounter extra fees...
Sent from my "better than an iPad" tab.
Saw one of these units for sale. The seller said that the service center told him that the board needed replacement. Is this true or can it just simply be reflashed using the instructions above? Thanks.
it very well may..
you'd have to see if it at least turned on, in any mode. water damage could cause board damage for instance.
It may be a locked bootloader and your friend tried to flash it.
Look at my other posts, I hax to have tje maonboard replaced!! Fortunately the service centre changed it under warranty
Good luck!
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it very well may..
you'd have to see if it at least turned on, in any mode. water damage could cause board damage for instance.
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The pictures show that it's turned on. It just has the PC to Triangle with an exclamation point to a Phone display. So it's promising right?
For me, it seems to be a major pain to switch between phones. Actually, it isn't an issue to switch back to the HTC One. But when I want to switch back to the EVO 3D, it returns an error...
Sorry, allow me to clarify. When you log in to your Sprint account, and you scroll down a bit (depending on your screen resolution, no scrolling down may be needed lol) and you see your phone info, how much 3G data you've used and how many texts have been sent/received for the current billing cycle. On the right of that, there's a drop-down menu and I select "Activate a new phone". It takes me to the next page which has a picture of the HTC One on the left, and the Evo on the right, which is the phone I want to re-use again for texting/data, and below these pictures are a list of warnings and things that need to be known (like pictures/SMS need to be backed up, blah blah) and then I press "Continue" at the bottom. And then it gives me this error:
"This page is no longer available. To complete your activation, you'll need to start over. If you have questions about your swap, please review your confirmation email.
You may also return to My Sprint."
I'm sick of having to e-mail [email protected] every time I want to do this. Is there not a way to do this on my own without contacting them? *sighs* Was much easier with GSM phones, just have to take out the SIM and then put it in another GSM phone and I'd be good to go (after rebooting of course.)
A lot of issues are due to incompatible SOCs Sprint uses to attach the certain kinds of phones onto the account. It is usually a smooth transition using the website, especially if going from an alike phone to an alike phone (Wimax capable -> Wimax capable; blackberry -> blackberry). But often times when going from a LTE device to any other device not capable of LTE requires adjusting SOCs on the account, which the website unfortunately has a hard time doing.
But that's when you either call in and have them do it over the phone or easily open up a chat session. They'll get it done for you!
Thanks \m/.
Instead of making another thread, I thought I'd ask something else in here.
It's related to selling the HTC One with an active Sprint account.
What happens if I sell the HTC One, and that new owner tried to activate it on his network but it would return an error saying that it's already active on the first owner's account? (mine)
Does that mean as soon as I sell the device, I have to cancel Sprint service and use that money to pay for the ETF so that it becomes neutral with a clean ESN?
What about the SIM card in the phone? Do I take it out or just leave it in there? I need to know these things before I go ahead and sell the phone..?
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Thanks \m/.
Instead of making another thread, I thought I'd ask something else in here.
It's related to selling the HTC One with an active Sprint account.
What happens if I sell the HTC One, and that new owner tried to activate it on his network but it would return an error saying that it's already active on the first owner's account? (mine)
Does that mean as soon as I sell the device, I have to cancel Sprint service and use that money to pay for the ETF so that it becomes neutral with a clean ESN?
What about the SIM card in the phone? Do I take it out or just leave it in there? I need to know these things before I go ahead and sell the phone..?
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Pretty much yes on both questions.
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Pretty much yes on both questions.
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I ported to T-Mobile, and have this perfectly good Sprint HTC One with 7 or 8 cases but didn't realize that I can't sell it on swappa if it has a bad ESN (The point is to use the money from selling the phone to pay off the remaining balance so that it gets a clean ESN) so I wonder if there are other places to sell the phone because I'm not having much luck on Hardforum or Anandtech forums despite having 119 positive Heatware evaluations.
Hi just got an S6 at AT&T store, and i wanted to wait to set up. She let me leave store without installing SIM Card. Whats the best start for me? I think i should charge it. Several posts i seem to recall mentioning booting up the 1st time without the SIM Card. Should I do this? Any advantage, or no? I was real leary about trading in my iPhone 5S but it's done now. Just want to give myself the best chance to start using this most wisely. Few things I notice, I asked about a sealed box and was told only Apple seals their devices. Any thoughts about the AT&T 5.1.1 update and when we may get it? Thanks for reading.