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[Q] i9000M VS Captivate Purchase, Urgent :(

Basically here's the situation, been checking sites for a few weeks on good deals on 2nd hand Android phones. I recently started making contact with sellers and here's the bit.
Seller A - meeting tonight supposedly
Rogers "Unlocked" Captivate
Usb + Charger
$380
Haven't seen pics and the guy says to trust him that the phone is unlocked
Seller B - meeting tomorrow if I back down on Seller A offer
Bell Locked Vibrant (i9000M)
LNIB, bags, all accessories, etc
$370
Seen pics of the phone and accessories. Looks good (even seen it turned on)
I'm on Rogers and was wondering which would be best? I'm fine with either phone. At this point after seeing both for so long/often (researched) they're both on even playing ground...except for some speculations that i9000M (Vibrant)'s battery life is better.
So my question is...Seller A or Seller B? If I go with Seller B I'd have to root/unlock and I've read through threads and forums and seems like loads of people have problems :S More often than the person replying and saying thanks to the creator of the thread/helper and saying that they got it. So I'm having doubts about that. Don't want to mess up the phone!
Also, since this is my first dealings with buying something second hand from a stranger, any tips on things to check for? I heard it's always important to check that the phone can enter download/recovery mode but wouldn't that also reset the phone :S
Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!

3py0n said:
Basically here's the situation, been checking sites for a few weeks on good deals on 2nd hand Android phones. I recently started making contact with sellers and here's the bit.
Seller A - meeting tonight supposedly
Rogers "Unlocked" Captivate
Usb + Charger
$380
Haven't seen pics and the guy says to trust him that the phone is unlocked
Seller B - meeting tomorrow if I back down on Seller A offer
Bell Locked Vibrant (i9000M)
LNIB, bags, all accessories, etc
$370
Seen pics of the phone and accessories. Looks good (even seen it turned on)
I'm on Rogers and was wondering which would be best? I'm fine with either phone. At this point after seeing both for so long/often (researched) they're both on even playing ground...except for some speculations that i9000M (Vibrant)'s battery life is better.
So my question is...Seller A or Seller B? If I go with Seller B I'd have to root/unlock and I've read through threads and forums and seems like loads of people have problems :S More often than the person replying and saying thanks to the creator of the thread/helper and saying that they got it. So I'm having doubts about that. Don't want to mess up the phone!
Also, since this is my first dealings with buying something second hand from a stranger, any tips on things to check for? I heard it's always important to check that the phone can enter download/recovery mode but wouldn't that also reset the phone :S
Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!
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I personally like i9000M better (looks-wise) and of course, in terms of features, i9000M has a front facing camera which the Rogers Captivate doesn't. I am not sure if Captivate has problems flashing other roms.
As for things to check, you can bring a sim card from another carrier to test if the phone is unlocked. Test the camera, test phone call, check the phone condition and also firmware version (might give you an idea whether the last owner did a lot of flashing).

oooo true true...only thing is I have only 1 sim card from Rogers :S
I'm at the fork in the road right now...I won't be able to test phone call on the Bell one because the Seller B's bell sim is deactivated so he can only turn it on and what not.
Which is the safer bet? Best issue for me is the root/unlocking process. Though there are guides everywhere online and an awesome on here, I still read about many conflicts people have. And the interal SD card corruption (2 weeks after unlocking) I read about scares me
Is this the right code to check firmware?: *#1234# Firmware Version
Also I was told this should work...unless Rogers locked it: *#7465625# = Check the phone lock status

So you are willing to take the risk with possible hardware failure? right?
If so, choose Rogers Captivate.
If not go find a Desire Z or something like that~

xxgg said:
So you are willing to take the risk with possible hardware failure? right?
If so, choose Rogers Captivate.
If not go find a Desire Z or something like that~
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DesireZ is nice, but the hinge for "sliding" the screen can break easily.

wait what? Captivate has hardware failure?!?! :S
But THAT'S the one that's unlocked lol

3py0n said:
wait what? Captivate has hardware failure?!?! :S
But THAT'S the one that's unlocked lol
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You can unlock and root the i9000M easily though.

yea but heard lots of horror stories :S so I'm not so sure...and someone reassured me things are okay with the Captivate.

3py0n said:
yea but heard lots of horror stories :S so I'm not so sure...and someone reassured me things are okay with the Captivate.
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I can tell you that rooting and unlocking won't kill the phone. But you will have a high chance if you start flashing different firmwares on it.

The answer of which to choose is simple:
if you want front camera and hard key button go with Bell
if you don't need the front camera, and don't mind having 4 fake buttons go with Rogers

LOLOLOL 4 fake buttons haha jokes
Thanks! I'll go with Captivate and if n e thing goes wrong...or I dont like it...just sell it and grab a Vibrant (i9000M)
Thanks for everyone's contributions.

Got a little sketchy when he wanted to change locations lol wish me luck!! And going with the Captivate.
BOUGHT THE PHONE!
In working order. Thanks for everyone's input!
Just a little bummed about the responsiveness of the "fake" 4 buttons...gotta find the sweet spot when touching them. Or maybe it's just Eclair's fault lol

[Q] Soon to be Blacklisted TAB

Didn't see a Q&A section so I figured I'd just post here.
So I found the Galaxy S Tab on Craigslist and bought it last night... Got it for $220 after some INTENSE haggling. The device was unopened!
One of the reasons I was able to get the price so low was because in 21 days (30 days after original purchase) the bill on this device will not be paid and I assume the device will be blacklisted by sprint - blocking the ESN. Right now it has the 4G service attached to it, but I bought it unopened so I have not activated the service, meaning I didn't not go through the on screen steps from sprint to get it online (3/4g network). I figured now, and always as the phone will have a bad ESN soon, I can just use the tablet as a wifi device around the house and other places.
I just wanted to see if that was a good deal ($220) even though it's now basically wi-fi only (just like an ipad without 3g). Is there any way to clear the ESN once it goes bad?

Sounds fishy, but dang good price. Basically you have a wifi Tab. Once ESN is blacklisted, you the other party can't do anything about it (ofcourse there are *cough* *cough* ways around that too, but i digress). But hey, enjoy your Tab anyway. Just to clarify, the Tab has 3G, not 4G.

Daym I went through something similar but not that cheap lol I got mine for 500 on craigslist scary meeting up the guy in front of a Ralphs lol i, but for the price u paid that's too good to be true and that's when u should be concerned, well at least now u have a really cheap wifI tablet too bad its not gsm
And for that price I would of bought a few more if he had any lol
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What will happen is that the tab will be stuck at the activation page. Right now there is no way to get around activation on the Sprint version. There is a workaround on the other versions by pressing the volume button in a sequence. Right now the Sprint version will not accept the workaround. I was about to buy a Sprint version off of Craigslist, but after reading many posts on different forums about this issue, I stayed away.

I opened and used the device last night. The Sprint activation is a little notification that you can hide, but you're right in that it doesn't go away. But the device does work perfect. Used the browser and some games last night. Not sure how much purpose it will serve me though. How do you guys usually use yours?
Having quick google maps, a mini web browser sitting around, and possibly multimedia is all i can think of, but I have laptops, desktop, and my android phone :/ I'm considering selling it (even though i just opened it! haha) but i'm not sure how much i can get for a going-to-be-bad ESN.

YoshioDuo said:
I opened and used the device last night. The Sprint activation is a little notification that you can hide, but you're right in that it doesn't go away. But the device does work perfect. Used the browser and some games last night. Not sure how much purpose it will serve me though. How do you guys usually use yours?
Having quick google maps, a mini web browser sitting around, and possibly multimedia is all i can think of, but I have laptops, desktop, and my android phone :/ I'm considering selling it (even though i just opened it! haha) but i'm not sure how much i can get for a going-to-be-bad ESN.
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I use mine for everything. I take it everywhere I go, especially work. I have a slingbox that works great on my tab. I hardly need to pull out the laptop anymore.

YoshioDuo said:
I opened and used the device last night. The Sprint activation is a little notification that you can hide, but you're right in that it doesn't go away. But the device does work perfect. Used the browser and some games last night. Not sure how much purpose it will serve me though. How do you guys usually use yours?
Having quick google maps, a mini web browser sitting around, and possibly multimedia is all i can think of, but I have laptops, desktop, and my android phone :/ I'm considering selling it (even though i just opened it! haha) but i'm not sure how much i can get for a going-to-be-bad ESN.
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If you're in NYC, ill buy it off you.
Forgive My Brevity. To Be Or Not To Be...

Bought a verizon tab for 400 and it was associated with the owners account. All he did was disassociate it from his and I activated a new plan. He owed like 900 bucks on his cell phone bill, but was making payments.
Kinda ridiculous that the device is tied to a account like that on Sprint.

I just for my tab from tmobile. Ended up paying 349.99. I got my vibrant from tmobile, same phone line, four months ago for 149.99.
Retention is the ****, lol.
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Locked
Yeah, it's because he used a business account and even the rep on the phone said that they lock the phone to the account for only the first 30 days. After that, it can be pulled off but thats when they'll also see he's not going to pay the bills.
The rep did say that you can cancel the line within the 30 days ONLY by going into the store your bought the device and signed up for the service at. I can't remember the explanation why but part of it was like inventory or something (sounded like bull___ ) but he also said that they do this to dissuade fraud because "a lot of people were ____insert my scenario with this guy here ___". But he bought them all offline so I'm not sure how that would work.

Anyone buying a CDMA device off CList should always call customer service and verify ESN (takes a few mins) before money exchanging hands. Simple as that.
Now of-course if I see a Tab for $200, !!, heck I'll throw caution to the wind and scoop it. Worst case, I have a wifi Tab.
I buy and sell my stuff on CL and that's how I operate.

I am actually shopping for a wifi only tab. I currently have a Viewsonic G Tablet but my return date is approaching and I will prbly return it.
Any carrier better or worse for what I am looking for?

YoshioDuo said:
I opened and used the device last night. The Sprint activation is a little notification that you can hide, but you're right in that it doesn't go away. But the device does work perfect. Used the browser and some games last night. Not sure how much purpose it will serve me though. How do you guys usually use yours?
Having quick google maps, a mini web browser sitting around, and possibly multimedia is all i can think of, but I have laptops, desktop, and my android phone :/ I'm considering selling it (even though i just opened it! haha) but i'm not sure how much i can get for a going-to-be-bad ESN.
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I have an opportunity to buy a sprint galaxy tab for $250. Bad ESN but in perfect shape with case and screen cover. Is it worth it?

I just bought a blacklisted one off of CL for $100 it's cool for the wifi right now but will it ever be able to be transfered to my contract?

My Tab...
Came from CL, too... As-new AT&T refurb mint condition but it cost me $375... I use it for everything and it its my phone too so I guess it was worth it. Bad on AT&T for crippling it like they do but thanks to xda I have fixed that

[Q] Droid 4 in Canada (Rogers?)

I need a new phone with a physical keyboard. Was looking at the Droid4, which appears to have the best physical keyboard around, but am a bit of a newb at this stuff. My old HTC Dream (G1) is dying, and I need to figure this out sooner then later. Haha
Can it be unlocked to work on Rogers Wireless in Canada?

As of right now, no.

Dave Lister said:
As of right now, no.
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Thnx. Is it a case of no unlock? Or (lack of knowledge here) no GSM support?
Also, once an android device is rooted, is there an unlock app of some kind? Or?

demungtoe said:
Thnx. Is it a case of no unlock? Or (lack of knowledge here) no GSM support?
Also, once an android device is rooted, is there an unlock app of some kind? Or?
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Currently GSM support is disabled in the firmware and AFAIK it will stay that way until Verizon releases an update to enable it.

Was a bit disappointing they do not have the global services available on the Droid 4. If your looking for a device with keyboard right now you may be able to pick up a used Droid 2 Global. I know those work up there as I had one when I was in Canada last year.

All I can say is, damn. I can't believe how messed up the mobile phone industry is. There is a device, I want to use it, so much so that I'm willing to pay the crazy $549.99 pricetag for it. However, they've decided that I'm not allowed to use it on my network. I hope chinese clones step up their game! Heh.
I was contemplating a droid3, however don't want to spend too much since I may want the droid4 once its actually usable.
I was contemplating picking up a motorola flipout for the meantime, cheap and weird looking!
Also, this probably isn't the right place for a question about this, but I'm at a loss as to what the heck unlock codes actually are (are they issued by the carrier? or hardware manufacturer?) and why there are numerous scammy websites selling them. Can anyone recommend a site I can do some reading about this on? About why I'll probably have to pay for one? I may need to know this if I pickup a different used phone.

The SIM Unlock codes are usually given by the carrier to their paid customers. Verizon will give them out if you have had an account in good standing for 6 months if I recall right.
As for sites to get the unlock codes, I cannot make any recommendations due to I have never paid for them. I have however seen on sites like deals extreme unlocker SIMs that go between the phone and the SIM but have no idea if or how well those work.
Also if you buy a used device you may be able to get one that has been SIM unlocked already. The SIM unlock is a one time task, even if the phone gets wiped or reset it will remain SIM unlocked.

I still keep my G1 as a spare. My next step from that was a TouchPro2 - it comes with WindowsMobile, but I'm running XDAndroid on it. It has an excellent keyboard. I think I still like the TP2 keyboard better than my D4's keyboard.
But, the TP2 has the exact same processor as the G1, and only a tiny bit more RAM. It has a much higher screen rez (800x480) but no faster hardware, so it is noticeably slow.
If I were you I'd look at picking up a used Droid3. I was considering the D3 as my next phone from the TP2, but waited instead for the D4 to come out. As it is, I'm finding that Verizon's 4G service is cutting out all the time on me, so it's still better as a 3G phone. And I'm heading off to Europe in a couple weeks, and will have to bring my G1 or my TP2 on the trip anyway.
Curses to Qualcomm, Motorola, and Verizon. Verizon for their stupid policies and selling a phone with full-featured hardware and intentionally crippled software. Motorola for their locked firmware that prevents end-users, who have legitimately paid for and *own* the damn hardware, from installing software on it as they see fit. Qualcomm for preventing end-users (again, who have legitimately paid for and *own* the hardware) from even seeing the specifications so that they can provide their own software.

demungtoe said:
All I can say is, damn. I can't believe how messed up the mobile phone industry is. There is a device, I want to use it, so much so that I'm willing to pay the crazy $549.99 pricetag for it. However, they've decided that I'm not allowed to use it on my network. I hope chinese clones step up their game! Heh.
I was contemplating a droid3, however don't want to spend too much since I may want the droid4 once its actually usable.
I was contemplating picking up a motorola flipout for the meantime, cheap and weird looking!
Also, this probably isn't the right place for a question about this, but I'm at a loss as to what the heck unlock codes actually are (are they issued by the carrier? or hardware manufacturer?) and why there are numerous scammy websites selling them. Can anyone recommend a site I can do some reading about this on? About why I'll probably have to pay for one? I may need to know this if I pickup a different used phone.
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Bell sells the Motorola XT860, I'm currently using it unlocked on Rogers without a hitch. The only issue, I'm not sure if this phone will get official ICS support... The devs are hacking away at getting all of the cool ICS features up and running though
You can probably find an XT860 on Kijiji, Craigslist or even eBay for a lot cheaper than the full Bell price... heck they were giving them away on 3 year contracts during xmas. You might want to check out the Droid3 forums in the meantime to get some more info on XT860

Fwiw, i'm in Ireland now and popped an Irish SIM into the phone. Interestingly enough, you can swap the SIM while the phone is powered on, in Airplane mode. It still didn't work, but the phone didn't complain about any SIM lock. But when I rebooted the phone, it complained then.
There are properties in /system/build.prop for enabling world-mode. I turned these on, but looking at the radio logcat, it seems that our current libril-xxx.so just doesn't support any GSM commands.
The interesting thing is that the Motorola Atrix has the same Qualcomm MDM6600 radio modem as this phone. I'm going to look for an Atrix ROM and see if I can kang some libril files from there to see if I can get any further. (Btw, I wrote the multimode RIL for the XDAndroid ROM; this sort of investigation is my specialty...)
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I hope they hurry with this. I want this phone now. Its ridiculous that users outside USA cannot use this phone.

Bump, any development?

HerrDarkShadow said:
Bump, any development?
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Look at the thread titled "Droid 4 for Hong Konger" in this forum for instructions on how to unlock GSM capability. This only came about a few days ago.

Dave Lister said:
Look at the thread titled "Droid 4 for Hong Konger" in this forum for instructions on how to unlock GSM capability. This only came about a few days ago.
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And it's still not stable from what I've read...
This phone is too early to jump into for me. I'll stick to my 4G Slide for now and check back on this device in a few months. Maybe development will pick up by then and they'll have the GSM thing sorted out

Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.

eksobr said:
Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
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The phone worked fine for me on Rogers when I had it. I did a bunch of tweaking in order to get all of the functions working, but this was back in ICS. Also, no LTE is available...
But you're much better off going full touchscreen, just get used to it... I think keyboard phones are going the way of the dinosaur
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eksobr said:
Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
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danifunker said:
The phone worked fine for me on Rogers when I had it. I did a bunch of tweaking in order to get all of the functions working, but this was back in ICS. Also, no LTE is available...
But you're much better off going full touchscreen, just get used to it... I think keyboard phones are going the way of the dinosaur
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OK guys this is perfect timing.. and i dont have much support for th eextra tweaking issues we have in Canada, with some of these phones and roms..
Anyhow. Heres my story.. You will like the ending!!
Ive owned a Droid 3 (XT860-BELLMOBILITY) for over a year now.. I came from the original Milestone 1 from Telus Mobililty.
4 weeks ago I had my Droid 3 stolen from me in the laundry room of my condo.. Well it was more.. forgotten by me (i think it was lost there.. for sure!!) and some lucky sole got their hands on it.. I can now use google and its cached pages of kijiji to see that it wass posted the day of.. lol ive got the kid selling other goods so its only a matter of time before i force karma upon him
I took a risk, but being desperate QWERTYDROID junkies like we are, and bought an American Verizon Droid 3 (XT862)
--Keep in mind that i knew nothing about unlocking, rooting, restoring, and doing the whole ROM/Bootstrap/TWRP/SAFEBOOT etc.. Im 35, been into pc's since i was 15, but never into MAC or LINUX.
At this point ive bricked these phones and the next one i speak about dozens of times, while attempting to do the practice makes perfect sort of journey to see what works, what doesnt, what sometimes does, etc.. Its always ended up being able to use the original stock rom's with no problems. (sometimes bloatwear was anoying) but not much support for our radios and etc.
So i had a bit of trouble getting this verizon droid 3 up and running as verizon themselves gives us extra work by trying to secure the load up of the activation process. Either way.. it worked, and still does, and ive gotten a few roms working on it like all SteelDroid, CM10.1, MiniMoto, and possibly a couple others. but these were the ones that can and will work, with a bit of trial and error.
shoot gotta run for a few minutes. so i wanna post this so i dont lose it all.
PART 2 of this story to follow within an hour!! But ill give you a bit of a spoiler.
I am using a Droid 4 now.. as a poster said justr before me, he had many issues to get past, well so did I, but them came the huge hurdles to get over also..
Still have my droid 3 xt862 that was wanting to sell. though,, im still not for certain ready to part with it..
be back shortly sorry about this..
next part in next post

What happened????
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eksobr said:
Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
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As far as I'm aware, there shouldn't be any problem getting this to run on a GSM network outside the United States. If the phone is on ICS or JB the GSM is unlocked already. If you use any of the ROM's, there's a thread in the "Droid 4 Android Development" called "Enable GSM on any ROM Patch" which should fully enable it.
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demungtoe said:
I need a new phone with a physical keyboard. Was looking at the Droid4, which appears to have the best physical keyboard around, but am a bit of a newb at this stuff. My old HTC Dream (G1) is dying, and I need to figure this out sooner then later. Haha
Can it be unlocked to work on Rogers Wireless in Canada?
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I have a Droid4, updated with android 4.1, and I can confirm you that it works with Rogers

[Q] Note 3 problems

First of all this is my first post on this site after using it for 2 years to root and mod many phones. The att note 3 has just been grinding my gears. I owned the note 2 and loved it.
My problems are these:
Reception is horrible. Wife sits next to me and gets more bars and is on lte more often than me.
Phone constantly glitches on the web/chrome even apps.
I hate how the browser address bar stays in screen when I read a lot like these forums.
Phone is past warranty so some help rooting this phone with out a computer would be of major help.
I would love to play the sim city game that runs on 10.1 I just need help identifying where to get a proper build for this phone without all the extra garbage att packs on the phone.
Does anyone know what the 5 pins are for under the battery cover?
And what rom could I put on the phone that would keep it stuck in landscape?

Nix A Nerd 2 said:
First of all this is my first post on this site after using it for 2 years to root and mod many phones. The att note 3 has just been grinding my gears. I owned the note 2 and loved it.
My problems are these:
Reception is horrible. Wife sits next to me and gets more bars and is on lte more often than me.
Phone constantly glitches on the web/chrome even apps.
I hate how the browser address bar stays in screen when I read a lot like these forums.
Phone is past warranty so some help rooting this phone with out a computer would be of major help.
I would love to play the sim city game that runs on 10.1 I just need help identifying where to get a proper build for this phone without all the extra garbage att packs on the phone.
Does anyone know what the 5 pins are for under the battery cover?
And what rom could I put on the phone that would keep it stuck in landscape?
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Congratulations on your first post! Sorry your gears are getting grinded. Lets see if we can solve some problems.
First you complain about reception. Do you have any kind of case on the phone? This can cause signal issues. If not you might have a hardware or software issue. You can try a factory data reset to see if it's software. If problem still persists swap it out at the store if it's under warranty still. If not you can send to Samsung for repairs.
You also complain about glitching. Can you explain a little more please? I don't see how web pages glitch. Do they load slow or something??
Thirdly just disable the brower bar in application settings.
The 4th question rooting without a computer. That's not going to happen anytime soon. You must use a pc to root at this time. Sorry! I recommend kingo to root.
For sim city help me out a little. Is there a specific version? Did you try looking in the playstore? Not all of us know what sim city on 10.1 is. I'm assuming you mean cyanagenmod 10.1 but that still isn't enough info.
The 5 pins on the back are device extensions. The 3 that go top to bottom are for wireless charging. The other 2 that go left to right I'm uncertain. I think they are NFC contacts. When using a wireless charging system it can interfere with our nfc batteries. Therefore the nfc needs to be moved into the case. The s view wireless charging case utilizes all 5 of these contacts.
To get your phone stuck in landscape mode, just install a new home launcher. You don't even need to be rooted. For example I love apex home and under behavior settings you can select the default orientation.

my note 3 is ever in boot loop no modding. do i a total wipe and reflash with odin ?

Thanks lol didnt realize how vague my post was.
Past warranty, no case, and reset x5.
Chrome and the regular web browser hangs on a blank screen or the last page it was on. Only the browsers do this. The 4g will be working fine then all of a sudden it hangs. Ive read some forums where people are getting far lower reception where they used to get great reception.
Disabled browser bar within a minute of purchasing phone.
From what i have read only users with android 10.1 can view the simcity in playstore. If you find the playstore link with google it will take you to correct page but gives you the incompatabily error. If there was a way to fool playstore in what device i am that would be awesome.
So what were the note 2 pins for??? I could have sworn they were wifi. The wifi would always loose signal when the cover was removed.
I will try out apex right now ultimate rotation control left my phone a mess even after uninstalling and rebooting

Nix A Nerd 2 said:
Thanks lol didnt realize how vague my post was.
Past warranty, no case, and reset x5.
Chrome and the regular web browser hangs on a blank screen or the last page it was on. Only the browsers do this. The 4g will be working fine then all of a sudden it hangs. Ive read some forums where people are getting far lower reception where they used to get great reception.
Disabled browser bar within a minute of purchasing phone.
From what i have read only users with android 10.1 can view the simcity in playstore. If you find the playstore link with google it will take you to correct page but gives you the incompatabily error. If there was a way to fool playstore in what device i am that would be awesome.
So what were the note 2 pins for??? I could have sworn they were wifi. The wifi would always loose signal when the cover was removed.
I will try out apex right now ultimate rotation control left my phone a mess even after uninstalling and rebooting
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you have a one year warrenty with at&t

jerrycoffman45 said:
you have a one year warrenty with at&t
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Bought at walmart stupid me

Nix A Nerd 2 said:
Bought at walmart stupid me
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still an att phone just call cutomer service they will send you a replacement and a box to send in the phone you are having trouble with

No way? How many variations of the att note 3 are there? Btw @440bro thanks for the apex its actually what i wanted tweaking it now. My wife said something about how we had to have purchased a protection plan?

Nix A Nerd 2 said:
No way? How many variations of the att note 3 are there? Btw @440bro thanks for the apex its actually what i wanted tweaking it now. My wife said something about how we had to have purchased a protection plan?
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its not a variation they sell phones for att so does radio shack,best buy,target etc

Lmao as in variations I meant does att only carry the sm900a and do i have to have a protection plan of some sort?

Nix A Nerd 2 said:
Lmao as in variations I meant does att only carry the sm900a and do i have to have a protection plan of some sort?
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i think they only carry the sm900a and you only need the protection plan for damage they can blame on you like water damage or a broke screen

Nix A Nerd 2 said:
Lmao as in variations I meant does att only carry the sm900a and do i have to have a protection plan of some sort?
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Yes only at&t carries the sm-n900a
Tmobile has the 900t
Verizon has the 900v
The standard unlocked version is 9000
The international version is 9005
And there's even more!

Retitled. How to hose your phone in 35 easy steps. :)

To be fair to HTC/Sprint I retitled this. As the phone is not representative of a normal M8 (either by hardware or corrupted/miss programming).
Long story.
If you want the short version, "This phone sucks" (and by the way so does the S5).
Here is the long version.
Bought the phone first day.
HTC Unlocked and Rooted it as soon at it was available. Applied S-OFF as soon as it was available.
I had not much time to play with it and stayed on Stock and have WIFI on full time which is used at work and home.
Couple days ago I decided to try some ROMs (being very patient for things to mature a bit). I tried Barebones, pretty good ROM. Note I had "dirty flashed it".
Then I took my first long trip since I got the phone. 100 miles into the boonies.
It popped up "Roaming Guard every 2 minutes", every call. But it was still running ok.
I had forgot to shut the roaming guard off (or it was locked out by the time I though of it).
This is a known issue and happened on M7as well. Most reliable way to deal with it, is to full wipe in order to disable it. (I tried all the tricks).
Well at this time OMJ released his "Harman" ROM and Firmware.
Well I guess it's a good time to start clean, wipe and switch to OMJ's Harmon ROM (and firmware) (whom I've been a loyal customer of)
So this stupid Roaming Guard thing keeps coming and going as I sort out which ROM I want, restoring things with TB etc.
But now, my phone is "stuck is 1X". WTF. And if it does occasionally show 3G as soon as I use it, it drops out completely or reverts to 1X.
So now I think I hosed something really bad. Can't get 3G at home or work. My wifes HTC One M7 is fine (running OMJ's BadBoys ROM)
Updated Profiles, played with PRL's.
So I put it all back to factory (except S-ON) and used the HBOOT that hides that's it's S-OFF.
And flashed the closest Stock ROM I could find (which so happened to get no Data or Voice at all). Perfect !!
Then took it to sprint store, and it was a sharp kid and he said it was rooted and nicely handed it back. He suggested I add T.E.P. and "try again".
Well I figured I'll have to S-ON it. And stopped in another store to added T.E.P. just in case. I had like 2 days left.
So I was gonna go home S-ON it and go to another Sprint "repair" Store but decided I really needed to get to some other commitments.
So I restored a backup and on the road and the phone was back to "Normal" except for the stupid Roaming Guard thing. WTF.
Then it hit me. The new ROM from OMJ was telling me what my REAL network was doing and the stock ROM was lying through it's teeth.
I'm well aware of Developer ROM's displaying "1x" when it sees 1x but after being on the stock ROM (with WIFI on), I kind of forgot about it.
And I was never clear what the "New" Spark Icons were really saying anyway (with WIFI ON or OFF).
So the truth is this thing has been running like crap since day 1. And I believe even worse since the first OTA firmware update.
I started researching options to get the Galaxy S5. Turns out the reviews are worse on the S5 than the M8.
Then I kept finding threads like this one.
https://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/155517
Maybe I have a bad phone. Maybe I'll just smash the thing and try another one.
I miss my M7. Luckily my wife has it.

I had to get my first M8 replaced because it was roaming all the time. My second one is much better . Sounds like you have a bad one like my first one. I returned mine within the first 14 days to get a no-questions-asked replacement for full refund.

Uhh.. No problems here. Sounds like a defective device to me. They won't swap it where you rooted it, TEP will cost you a deductible and they'll send you a refurbished model. Shouldn't of rooted so quickly.
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I don't understand if u don't want the roaming guard to sound just uncheck it on the settings. If you have trouble with your settings dial *#*#4636#*#* and select phone information scroll down and select the option cdma+evdo/lte then reboot and check if that help. Then again u should be aware of this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701255 just in case u r not.
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breezedragon said:
I don't understand if u don't want the roaming guard to sound just uncheck it on the settings. If you have trouble with your settings dial *#*#4636#*#* and select phone information scroll down and select the option cdma+evdo/lte then reboot and check if that help
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Not so easy to shut Roaming Guard off. I'll bet if most people look right now, You'd find it greyed out.
I just completely wiped my phone again. Ran RUU on it. Immediately Disabled the Guard. And a half hour later it's all locked out again (but it's locked out disabled).
I don't know what causes it to lock.
But you do have to do it immediately after a wipe.
I'll check out the Options #*# option you suggested. Thanks. I remember that being mentioned before.

Aldeel said:
Uhh.. No problems here. Sounds like a defective device to me. They won't swap it where you rooted it, TEP will cost you a deductible and they'll send you a refurbished model. Shouldn't of rooted so quickly.
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I tend to root as soon as it's available. In case an OTA comes out and lose the ability to ever do it. I also like to see if I can root it with in the 14 days, because if something does go wrong I can swap it. I can make it factory looking again. I just didn't want to bother in case they could fix it, because it felt like just a programming issue. I knew I was taking a chance when I brought it in like that. I've brought in MUCH more hacked phones and walked out with a brand new one, with no T.E.P.
I'm still not sure if this is a "Broken" phone. It definitely won't pull in weak 3G like my M7 did.

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I'm still not sure if this is a "Broken" phone.
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It probably is.
Fwiw, I've never seen my roaming guard settings greyed out.

As a sprint tech I can tell you 100% of the M8's that have come in to my store that I've replaced have been better the second time around. Seems like there were some lemons in the first batch. You'd better take it in to get exchanged or break it to get a replacement soon(lol) because as of today we were ordering new replacements, soon it'll be refurbs once there is stock in the warehouse.

I also noticed the serial number on my original M8 started with FA, while my current one starts with HT. Could be that ones from a specific location were bad.

There is problem in this phone. I don't think why you face this type of problem?

HaiKaiDo said:
As a sprint tech I can tell you 100% of the M8's that have come in to my store that I've replaced have been better the second time around. Seems like there were some lemons in the first batch. You'd better take it in to get exchanged or break it to get a replacement soon(lol) because as of today we were ordering new replacements, soon it'll be refurbs once there is stock in the warehouse.
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Thanks for the heads up. Hopefully I won't have to "break it". I never have, but I would if it came down to it.
I was thinking that they are not refurbished yet as well.
I'm not convinced 100% it's broken yet.
I did notice in a breakdown of the phone, that they do have little spring loaded contacts to the Antenna's, which have been a problem on past phones. And that might be all it is.
I have $18.00 glass screen installed on it as well. And it's installed PERFECTLY. Chances of that happening again are slim
I really would like to get this phone to work.
That thread I posted, folks got second phones and still had issues.
I think it has to do with this whole Spark thing.
You know I wouldn't be rooting and wanting the option of Roam only etc. if the Sprint Network wasn't so bad in the first place.
The only thing that keeps me is the SERO plan. But that is wearing thin. Everyone of my co-workers gets 10-40x faster data rates than I do.
AT&T or Verizon.
Sprint better get their act together.
Oh and the store I did go to. They just fired all their Techs 3 weeks ago. It used to be a good store to go to.

Captain_Throwback said:
It probably is.
Fwiw, I've never seen my roaming guard settings greyed out.
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Me neither.
Should definitely look into getting it replaced, though.
Captain_Throwback said:
I also noticed the serial number on my original M8 started with FA, while my current one starts with HT. Could be that ones from a specific location were bad.
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My M8's serial number starts with FA and so far, the only real issues I've had are sending/receiving texts at home. Sometimes, they come in delayed but I attribute that to the network moreso than the phone. Though, updating the profile/prl seems to fix it. Forcing the phone to re-provision while on CDMA rather than LTE seems to also keep it from happening sooner.

mswlogo said:
Thanks for the heads up. Hopefully I won't have to "break it". I never have, but I would if it came down to it.
I was thinking that they are not refurbished yet as well.
I'm not convinced 100% it's broken yet.
I did notice in a breakdown of the phone, that they do have little spring loaded contacts to the Antenna's, which have been a problem on past phones. And that might be all it is.
I have $18.00 glass screen installed on it as well. And it's installed PERFECTLY. Chances of that happening again are slim
I really would like to get this phone to work.
That thread I posted, folks got second phones and still had issues.
I think it has to do with this whole Spark thing.
You know I wouldn't be rooting and wanting the option of Roam only etc. if the Sprint Network wasn't so bad in the first place.
The only thing that keeps me is the SERO plan. But that is wearing thin. Everyone of my co-workers gets 10-40x faster data rates than I do.
AT&T or Verizon.
Sprint better get their act together.
Oh and the store I did go to. They just fired all their Techs 3 weeks ago. It used to be a good store to go to.
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Yeah lucky for me I dont work at a corporate store lol. They did a mass layoff of techs in corporate stores.

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I'm curious now if my phone is bad or its network related. I seem to drop/miss calls quite often. I just checked my serial number and it starts with FA as well.

I'm wondering if these phones were all built in different locations. I have a gold one from best buy and this thing works like a champ. I get similar cell signal compared to my s3. Even at my in laws house which just got lte a few months back and my brother in laws house where I get no signal on my s3, it acted the same with no signal. He lives in a secluded area. I'm reading a lot of negative things about phones bought thru Sprint being problematic. Haven't read anything about the gold best buy phones acting up. What do you all think could these phones be built in totally different locations?
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Maybe not different locations, but definitely different batches. Some could have subpar antennas.

I believe the serial number indicates the distribution center from which the device was produced. I saw mention of it in the Firewater thread when people were trying to figure out why it worked on some devices and not on others.

Serial number for my phone started with FA. Ordered it after watching the unveiling, got it two days later.
Haven't had a single problem with the phone as far as software, and no hardware issues like defects.
Guess I'm just lucky.
Knock in wood taking the firmware update on H/K ROM doesn't change things down the line.

sprkat85 said:
I'm wondering if these phones were all built in different locations. I have a gold one from best buy and this thing works like a champ. I get similar cell signal compared to my s3. Even at my in laws house which just got lte a few months back and my brother in laws house where I get no signal on my s3, it acted the same with no signal. He lives in a secluded area. I'm reading a lot of negative things about phones bought thru Sprint being problematic. Haven't read anything about the gold best buy phones acting up. What do you all think could these phones be built in totally different locations?
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I have a gold one as well and also see none of these issues. It also seems to be comparable to my S3's reception.