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Link mail screen to outlook mail

On the TF3D sceen, is there any way to link the mail button to the outlook mail instead of the "internet" mail?
Thanks

Err... If you set up your Outlook mail.. it would work.
If you set up your Outlook Mail and KEEP the Internet Mail (as well), then you will have both of them being accessed from the TF3D mail button (two envelopes on the right, instead of one)
If you set up your Outlook Mail and DELETE the Internet Mail, then you will have one envelope on the right .. and THAT will be the one for Outlook Mail.

To set up your Outlook mail, Tap on TF3D mail button
Then tap on Inbox
Then - Menu - Tools - Options
Now, tap on Outlook E-mail and enter the settings.

I actually tried to configure the Outlook Mail account (time pass) for gmail.
I couldn't get it to work.. (for some reason - sure I did something wrong).
Tried to sync Outlook Mail with my PC using Active Sync... some certificate validity issues came up..
Then, just decided to chuck it.
Had two envelopes appearing on the side.. just went ahead and cleared up everything from the registry - related to the mail set ups and set up my Gmail as the Internet Mail again.

I have set up my Outlook, and as you can see from screenshot, it's got mail in it, however, if I delete my POP3 email, the TF3D screen shows no accounts in the mail screen...

Anyone got any idead how to link the Outlook Inbox to the TF3D Mail screen??

Your email notification icon at the top looks quite suspicious... do you have another email client (such as BB Connect or Intellisync Mobile Suite) installed? I used Intellisync before and this is the icon I received and it also wasnt appearing in TF3D.
Let me know if you are using Intellisync- there is a work-around

mkhattab said:
Your email notification icon at the top looks quite suspicious... do you have another email client (such as BB Connect or Intellisync Mobile Suite) installed? I used Intellisync before and this is the icon I received and it also wasnt appearing in TF3D.
Let me know if you are using Intellisync- there is a work-around
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Yes, I am using Intellisync Mobile Suite....

mcvpjd3 said:
Yes, I am using Intellisync Mobile Suite....
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It's much better than Outlook Mobile isn't it? Nice to have REAL push mail
The reason TF3D isnt working is because it only recognises Outlook Mobile and not IMS and you do not have an Outlook account setup. The workaround (I'm hoping to find a better way) is to create an Outlook account through Activesync/Mobile Device Center on your PC. I've done some tests and there is no conflict between the two.
The downside is that there is no real integration between TF3D/Outlook and IMS so IMS is essentially working in Parallel. What I am trying to figure out is how to map TF3D to IMS so that when you click the envelope it takes you to IMS and not Outlook. At least with this workaround, you will get the best of both worlds with TF3D showing you your emails and IMS giving you the real push mail functionality which Outlook lacks.
Let me know if it works for you

mkhattab said:
It's much better than Outlook Mobile isn't it? Nice to have REAL push mail
The reason TF3D isnt working is because it only recognises Outlook Mobile and not IMS and you do not have an Outlook account setup. The workaround (I'm hoping to find a better way) is to create an Outlook account through Activesync/Mobile Device Center on your PC. I've done some tests and there is no conflict between the two.
The downside is that there is no real integration between TF3D/Outlook and IMS so IMS is essentially working in Parallel. What I am trying to figure out is how to map TF3D to IMS so that when you click the envelope it takes you to IMS and not Outlook. At least with this workaround, you will get the best of both worlds with TF3D showing you your emails and IMS giving you the real push mail functionality which Outlook lacks.
Let me know if it works for you
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Excellent. I'm now showing the envelope in the Mail TF3D screen. I presume that with this workaround, all I will ever get is the "Click to view message" message, and not the first few lines of the message that you get with a POP3 account or a proper outlook account. (see attached)
From reading your message I am also guessing you are using version 8 or 9 of IMS. I currently look after 3 servers all using varieties of version 6. I have just created a new server with version 9 which installs the "intellisync" suite of application on the device. I've tried it on an XDA Exec, XDA Orbit (and some nokia and Sony Ericsson devices). I haven't tried it on the Diamond yet. How is it on that?

mcvpjd3 said:
From reading your message I am also guessing you are using version 8 or 9 of IMS. I currently look after 3 servers all using varieties of version 6. I have just created a new server with version 9 which installs the "intellisync" suite of application on the device. I've tried it on an XDA Exec, XDA Orbit (and some nokia and Sony Ericsson devices). I haven't tried it on the Diamond yet. How is it on that?
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Correct.
I am using version 9 which works like a charm. I work for the local operator here in Dubai and am currently one of a few internal testers for IMS before we launch it as a service. I find it to be very functional and light on resources- highly highly recommended. Beats all competition including Blackberry (I've also set it up to get a personal POP3 account in much the same way as BB Internet does)
As for how much of the message appears in the TF3D, this depends on how much you tell Outlook to download of the message- all you need is a couple of KBs at the most to get the first few lines in the envelope.

Hey guys
I'm sorry but this will be probably an off-topic and stupid question but when you receive an email on your Diamond does it look like on your pc and can you view emails that have lots of graphics in them ??
I'm really sorry but this is my first WM device and i would like to know things like that

It depends on what kind of email account you are setting up on the device. If it's an Exchange account, the server has to be running Exchange 2007 for you to get HTML email on your device. Internet Email and IMAP display HTML without any problems.

well i've been using maill2web and it just emails didn't look like they should. Maybe you can tell me where can i find a good exchange server or something like that ??

gaabrysz said:
well i've been using maill2web and it just emails didn't look like they should. Maybe you can tell me where can i find a good exchange server or something like that ??
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Well... there's many to choose from depending on your needs and budget (not sure of any free ones but you'll probably find some out there- although possibly not because Exchange is not cheap to install or maintain). Anyway a simple Google will give you many results http://www.google.ae/search?hl=en&q=hosted+exchange&meta=

Anyone found the solution yet ?
Noticed the solution to sync to a phony account - But I would really prefer to sort this via a registry tweak or similar.
I need to roll this out to a large number of corporate users, so the phony tweak is kind of hard to roll out compared to a registry modification.
Anyone?...
Its kind of frustrating to see the number of new emails in the notification area of TF3D but not actually being able to use the TF3D envelope function.
Regards
M

Hello,
I tried to find a solution, too. But up to now without success.
Does anyone know, where TF3D gets it's information from?
Best
mawim

no link to intellisync/outlook
mawim said:
Hello,
I tried to find a solution, too. But up to now without success.
Does anyone know, where TF3D gets it's information from?
Best
mawim
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I also had an intense view at the registry, couldn't find any link to IMS/Outlook key...
I had a phonecall with nokias tac, telling me they will release a patch to solve this problem, not only to see unread mails at the TF3D - to have the original functionality of the tf3d mailicon workin. He could not tell me when the patch
will be released but it WILL come...
...but I'm very sure it could be solved with the correct Regkey...
regards, Marq

Marqus said:
I also had an intense view at the registry, couldn't find any link to IMS/Outlook key...
I had a phonecall with nokias tac, telling me they will release a patch to solve this problem, not only to see unread mails at the TF3D - to have the original functionality of the tf3d mailicon workin. He could not tell me when the patch
will be released but it WILL come...
...but I'm very sure it could be solved with the correct Regkey...
regards, Marq
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Sorry to drag up an old thread - I'm currently using Intellisync and would also like to use TF3D to view my emails ...
Did any kind of patch or regedit get released or worked out?
Meanwhile, I'll try the work-around above in this thread if I can work out what to do exactly.
Regards,
Gary.

Any news on this ?
Any sight of that Intellisync patch ?

Can't synch POP mail to desktop Outlook?

I may be late to the game on this issue, but I can't believe what I'm hearing from another source. Hope I put this in the right forum.
Is it true that when we send or receive a POP message on our PDA that there's no way we can synchronize that message back to Outlook on the desktop?
What I need to do is to have any message received or sent using Pocket Outlook with WiFi or 3G/GPRS while away from my desktop syncrhonized back to Outlook via ActiveSync. I've been told this can't be done.
In other words, what we have here is the electronic Roach Motel for email?
Someone please tell me it's not true.

I don't think that's true. I haven't used Outlook/Pop Mail since my Dell Axim Days, but to worked then.
What's true is POP is a one shot deal. If you download the message from your email server using POP to your Mobile, you can't download it from your email server to your Desktop Outlook.

Yes, I understand that with POP, you have the option of either keeping the messages on the server, or having them deleted after download.
Here's a scenario. This is what I'd like to happen. Please let me know if it's possible with a standard POP/SMTP server (NOT an Exchange server, and IMAP isn't an option for me at this time).
1) I synchronize my device with my pc and emails are updated to their respective folders on the PDA while physically connected to my desktop. I then disconnect and leave my office.
2) While on the road, I download an email to the device using one of my POP accounts via either 3G or WiFi. I respond to that message and send it back. Now, I have one new message in the In Box on the PDA, and a response in my Sent Items folder on the PDA.
3) When I return home, I want both those new messages - one in the In Box and on in the Sent Items folder to be synchronized back from the PDA to the desktop.
I've been told it's not possible. Can someone confirm, and if it's true, please explain to me (in layman's terms) how messages manage to go into the machine, but messages downloaded using the PDA just don't want to come out?

BillTheCat said:
I've been told it's not possible.
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AFAIK, it is not possible in the way you want to do it. Out the box WM will only do this with Exchange Server email. You have to go with a third party service like Xpress Fail that pushes email off your desktop Outlook to your phone.
Maybe someone could suggest a service that actually works, because Xpress Fail sucked for me.
You have probably been told this, but I set up Outlook on the desktop to leave an email on the server for 10 days. This way the phone and desktop get the same email. But thats as good as it gets with a POP account.
One more thing, the "Outlook" account you see on the phone is used for Exchange Server email. You can select it to sync with your desktop, but all it does is load up the email from your desktop.

GWelker62 said:
AFAIK, it is not possible in the way you want to do it. Out the box WM will only do this with Exchange Server email. You have to go with a third party service like Xpress Fail that pushes email off your desktop Outlook to your phone.
Maybe someone could suggest a service that actually works, because Xpress Fail sucked for me.
You have probably been told this, but I set up Outlook on the desktop to leave an email on the server for 10 days. This way the phone and desktop get the same email. But thats as good as it gets with a POP account.
One more thing, the "Outlook" account you see on the phone is used for Exchange Server email. You can select it to sync with your desktop, but all it does is load up the email from your desktop.
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Incredible. I'm speechless. So, the phone really is like the D-Con roach motel.
I'm incredulous that we have a system that gets Email from the desktop to the machine, and a machine that can send and receive emails while away from the desktop, but can't manage to get the messages back to the desktop when you return.
I just fail to understand how something seemingly so simple can be so complex. After all, POP email is just more or less a text file.

Ok, I've been thinking about this.
Of all the Email addresses I have, the majority of them are in my control. There is only one email address (att.net) that I have no control over and offers only POP.
If I migrate my domains from GoDaddy (which does NOT offer IMAP) to another IHV, can I have my att.net POP email automatically forwarded to a 'ghost' IMAP account at a new host, and accomplish what I want?
I still get back to being amazed that Microsoft hasn't had the forethought to supporting synchronization of POP messages from the phone back to desktop Outook. How F'n stupid is that???
Thanks in advance for any thoughts y'all have on this matter.

I think in Windows Pocket PC 2003 it did sync with POP. But the Windows Mobile Line assumes everyone is using exchange servers. Microsoft makes a lot of assumptions like that.
To answer your question, You will get two benefits out of your solution.
1: You will be able to use IMAP.
2: You won't be using GoDaddy anymore.
WIN FEAKIN' WIN Man!

I'm currently in quite a similar situation - I use Outlook 2007 on my desktop to download ALL my email, 95% of which comes from my Yahoo account. As it stands right now, I POP download my emails to my Outlook (Yahoo doesnt support desktop IMAP unless you pay), and I IMAP it to my Tilt (Yahoo does, however, support IMAP to mobiles, i guess? ). Currently I'll BCC a copy of any email I send to myself, and then once it's POPed back to Outlook, I just move it to the Sent Mail. It's a hassle but it's the best I can do.
The one annoyance is that if you don't close Outlook before leaving home, the POP automatically marks the messages as "read" once downloaded, and so when the Tilt IMAPs them in, they're already marked as read and so I don't get notified.
If you figure anything out (that doesn't require access to my own server!) please let us know lol

JimmyMcGee said:
To answer your question, You will get two benefits out of your solution.
1: You will be able to use IMAP.
2: You won't be using GoDaddy anymore.
WIN FEAKIN' WIN Man!
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LOL! Yeah, I'm thinkin' yer on to somethin' there. Looking at Dreamhost as an IHV. At least they support full shell access for more than one administrator so I can separate my domains that are serviced by another party.
Ok, but here's a problem. With IMAP, do I have a local copy on my machine, or must everything be stored on the server?

BillTheCat said:
LOL! Yeah, I'm thinkin' yer on to somethin' there. Looking at Dreamhost as an IHV. At least they support full shell access for more than one administrator so I can separate my domains that are serviced by another party.
Ok, but here's a problem. With IMAP, do I have a local copy on my machine, or must everything be stored on the server?
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I prefer DreamHost myself.
In IMAP they are stored on the server, but most desktop email client give you the option to save a local copy. As to how, it depends on the client though.

JimmyMcGee said:
In IMAP they are stored on the server, but most desktop email client give you the option to save a local copy. As to how, it depends on the client though.
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Ok, so bear with me, because I'm still getting my head around how this all works.
Let's say I migrate my hosting and set up IMAP accounts for my various email addresses. Then I set both the PDA and my Desktop respectively to download and delete messages from the server. Will messages sent and received on the PDA (therefore stored on the phone) be replicated to the desktop using ActiveSync when I reconnect for a synchronization? Or will I find myself back with the same situation I have with POP where ActiveSynch won't 'see' the PDA's IMAP folders and refuse to copy messages to my Desktop Outlook?

Basically an IMAP server the Email stays on the server. Then with your desktop of PDA downloads the message it is a "Shadow copy." IMAP allows multiple client to access the same Mailbox and the same time if needed. POP hates that.
Active Sync won't have any role in this.
If you download on your PDA, you will get a "shadow" on your PDA and the original message will be on the server. You can then go to your Desktop machine it will look what's on the server that it doesn't have as a shadow copy and then download a shoadw copy of that. Meaning at that point, both Devices will have the message in it possesion.

JimmyMcGee said:
Basically an IMAP server the Email stays on the server. Then with your desktop of PDA downloads the message it is a "Shadow copy." IMAP allows multiple client to access the same Mailbox and the same time if needed. POP hates that.
Active Sync won't have any role in this.
If you download on your PDA, you will get a "shadow" on your PDA and the original message will be on the server. You can then go to your Desktop machine it will look what's on the server that it doesn't have as a shadow copy and then download a shoadw copy of that. Meaning at that point, both Devices will have the message in it possesion.
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Wow. "Shadow". Now there's a term I haven't heard since my OS/2 days. Man, do I feel really old.
What you're saying is that essentially we then have three sets of copies of both sent and received mail in three different locations, the servers and local devices just setting their 'flags' as needed, correct?
Ok, I guess at this point I guess I really just need to set up an IMAP account somewhere and see how it works in practice so I can get my head around it.
Thanks for all your help!

BillTheCat said:
Wow. "Shadow". Now there's a term I haven't heard since my OS/2 days. Man, do I feel really old.
What you're saying is that essentially we then have three sets of copies of both sent and received mail in three different locations, the servers and local devices just setting their 'flags' as needed, correct?
Ok, I guess at this point I guess I really just need to set up an IMAP account somewhere and see how it works in practice so I can get my head around it.
Thanks for all your help!
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Basically, yeah.
Maybe use a GMAIL account via Imap and seee what happens when you check it from two locations.
Feel free to shoot me any questions you have.

Tilt e-mails deleting themselves

Has anyone else experienced this? I have the tilt and it seems that if I leave an e-mail in the in box for a long time it eventually deletes itself. I had an e-mail with driving directions on it, I left it in my box until I needed it, when I went to view it, it was gone. This is not the first time I have noticed this.

Um, most of the time the emails are removed from the phone once the email has been checked from a computer. Email clients on a computer delete the mail from the server and pocket outlook doesn't.

Also, you will set, as an option, a specific amount of time to retrieve email.
If you want to save one specifically, save it to a different folder.

ChumleyEX said:
Um, most of the time the emails are removed from the phone once the email has been checked from a computer. Email clients on a computer delete the mail from the server and pocket outlook doesn't.
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I didn't realize the PPC would delete e-mails from the inbox simply because they are not on the server anymore. That sux, once it's in my inbox it should stay there until I decide what to do with it.
Thanks though for the tip of moving it to another folder.

In the E-Mail setting there is an option you set for how far back you want to check your mail. Set it to all and your e-mail should remain in the inbox.

punkhawaiian said:
In the E-Mail setting there is an option you set for how far back you want to check your mail. Set it to all and your e-mail should remain in the inbox.
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Aha!! That seems to be what I was looking for.....thanks Hawaiian!!

Get Your Live (Hotmail, Live, MSN, etc.) Email Without Using Live

Microsoft FINALLY opened up the POP3 ports for Hotmail, Live, MSN, etc. accounts. That means that we can get our email on our devices again without installing that stupid Live program.
This is especially great for me because the newer version of the Live Mobile program was crashing my Manila and freezing my email tab so I had to uninstall it.
I just set up my hotmail account and it worked immediately.
Here's what you need to do:
1. Create a new mail account
2. Don't put the real domain. For example, for hotmail, I put "hormail" because the device will automatically tell you to go to live.com to set it up. You can change your email address after you put in the server settings.
Here are the settings:
POP server: pop3.live.com (Port 995)
POP SSL required? Yes
User name: Your Windows Live ID, for example [email protected]
Password: The password you usually use to sign in to Hotmail or Windows Live
SMTP server: smtp.live.com (Port 25)
Authentication required? Yes (this matches your POP username and password)
TLS/SSL required? Yes
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Do all of this and click "Finish" then go back in and change your email server back to what it should be.
Click Send/Receive and you will get your mail.
Thanks to Lifehacker.com for the news.
http://lifehacker.com/5151551/hotmail-enables-pop3-for-us-users

This is great! Thanks for posting this, now I can free up a few megabytes on my device. I have always hated that I couldn't check my email on older devices that didn't support the live application, like my Mobilepro 900C. I was never a fan of the live app anyway, as I could never choose what happened to my mail on the servers if I deleted it on my device. Thanks,
Dave

How to get *all* sent emails to show up
Thanks for the heads-up regarding this. I'd heard Hotmail were going to offer a more standard form of POP/SMTP access one of these days. I've configured my Kaiser accordingly and it shows all my received emails fine and emails I've sent from my Kaiser fine but emails I've sent from my desktop PC do not show up in sent emails on the Kaiser. Is this what others are getting as well? How do I get all of my sent emails to show up as well?

Yea, only emails sent from the device will show up.
Glad to see other people find this useful as well.
You're welcome.

thank you so much
thank you so much i have wanted to have both of my hotmail accounts on my device for ages.

josefcrist said:
thank you so much i have wanted to have both of my hotmail accounts on my device for ages.
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No problem. I'm really glad to have my hotmail back also.
For some reason, I can't get this working in Thunderbird on my laptop though or even on Outlook.

-haze- said:
No problem. I'm really glad to have my hotmail back also.
For some reason, I can't get this working in Thunderbird on my laptop though or even on Outlook.
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hmm well good luck with that.

Synchronizing folders
I'm can setup my MSN e-mail accounts using the method mentioned earlier.
However, none of the my personal MSN e-mail folders show up for me.
They do if I set up the MSN e-mail using HTTP protocol (and use Adrian HTTPMail Provider) instead of POP3 protocol.
Does anyone know how to get the personal e-mail folders to show up and synchronize using POP3?

-haze- said:
Microsoft FINALLY opened up the POP3 ports for Hotmail, Live, MSN, etc. accounts. That means that we can get our email on our devices again without installing that stupid Live program.
This is especially great for me because the newer version of the Live Mobile program was crashing my Manila and freezing my email tab so I had to uninstall it.
I just set up my hotmail account and it worked immediately.
Here's what you need to do:
1. Create a new mail account
2. Don't put the real domain. For example, for hotmail, I put "hormail" because the device will automatically tell you to go to live.com to set it up. You can change your email address after you put in the server settings.
Here are the settings:
Do all of this and click "Finish" then go back in and change your email server back to what it should be.
Click Send/Receive and you will get your mail.
Thanks to Lifehacker.com for the news.
http://lifehacker.com/5151551/hotmail-enables-pop3-for-us-users
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Man good looking for this -haze-. I read so many post here & there but yours did it for me!! Yea Yea..

best info ever
Thanks for posting this information. I have been searching for just this trick for quite a while and works like a charm A+

info is good but..
i cant still done this on my handy.
oh iam so silly

E-Mail issue

I have a strange email issue on my WP8. I use Yaho Mail if that matters; the problem is that when a new email comes in it deletes the one before so I always only have one email in inbox..

Is it deleting also from the server side? Did you try to delete whole account and setup again?

Loco5150 said:
Is it deleting also from the server side? Did you try to delete whole account and setup again?
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Yeah, I've actually deleted it a few times now. I don't know what is up with Windows Phone where it won't remember my account password even though it is entered correctly; after a while it will say your attention is required and I have to delete it and add it back so it can work. I use to have this issue with Windows Phone 7 and thought that it would be addressed in 8. I'll have to check on the server side.

Okay I found out the issue but I don't get it. When I go to Yaho mail, all my email is in the Trash I moved everything back to the inbox and it shows up on the phone. However when I open my Outlook it sends all of my Yahoo mail to the trash but only online

Ok, I cant really test because Im not using that email. Do you have some settings on your server side that could affect this, also does your service provider offer alternative servers for downloading email?
You probably have the account setup as IMAP, you could use POP and set the settings so it does not delete emails after downloading etc?

Loco5150 said:
Ok, I cant really test because Im not using that email. Do you have some settings on your server side that could affect this, also does your service provider offer alternative servers for downloading email?
You probably have the account setup as IMAP, you could use POP and set the settings so it does not delete emails after downloading etc?
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I deleted my Outlook profile from my computer and all is well now. I rather get it on my phone. I can always check my email on Outlook.com if I need to. Thanks.

sinister1 said:
I deleted my Outlook profile from my computer and all is well now. I rather get it on my phone. I can always check my email on Outlook.com if I need to. Thanks.
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