Bypass Orange stuff at hard reset? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

I just did a hard reset of my Orange TyTN ii, and had heard that if you soft reset before the 3 second countdown for customisation then you don't get all the Orange guff installed. (The people who developed the Orange dialler should be banned from developing for life!)
Trouble is, when I hit the soft reset, it's performing a hard reset every time. Am I doing something wrong? Or will this trick not work on the new ROM and 6.1?
Any advice would be very gratefully accepted because I just could not bear to be stuck with that awful Orange dialler. I don't want to flash the ROM on this brand new device, if I can help it either in case I **** things up!

riffian said:
I just did a hard reset of my Orange TyTN ii, and had heard that if you soft reset before the 3 second countdown for customisation then you don't get all the Orange guff installed. (The people who developed the Orange dialler should be banned from developing for life!)
Trouble is, when I hit the soft reset, it's performing a hard reset every time. Am I doing something wrong? Or will this trick not work on the new ROM and 6.1?
Any advice would be very gratefully accepted because I just could not bear to be stuck with that awful Orange dialler. I don't want to flash the ROM on this brand new device, if I can help it either in case I **** things up!
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Maybe you can do a hard-reset with the battery-cover already removed, boot up, go through the initial setup and when the countdown starts, remove the battery.

That trick only worked in WM6... WM6.1 doesn't work!

Thanks for the replies.
Typical! Microsoft continues to annoy and alienate its customers by further restricting their freedoms. It's almost as if they want to drive people to open source software. If only there was a Linux alternative to Windows Mobile. Sigh.
As for Orange, I've sent in a complaint to them about their incompetent developers - not that I expect them to take a blind bit of notice.
Is there a registry hack to banish Orange's crappy dialler and restore the much better HTC version?

riffian said:
Thanks for the replies.
Typical! Microsoft continues to annoy and alienate its customers by further restricting their freedoms. It's almost as if they want to drive people to open source software. If only there was a Linux alternative to Windows Mobile. Sigh.
As for Orange, I've sent in a complaint to them about their incompetent developers - not that I expect them to take a blind bit of notice.
Is there a registry hack to banish Orange's crappy dialler and restore the much better HTC version?
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I think it is time for you to venture into the Kaiser ROM forum like I did when I became sick of the Orange software

rfarnell said:
I think it is time for you to venture into the Kaiser ROM forum like I did when I became sick of the Orange software
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I'm too scared! ;-) If there's any chance of screwing it up, I'd rather not risk it until the Orange contract is over. But unless I can find a registry hack or some other way to replace the dialler, I might have to do it.
It's unbelievable that Orange has buried speed dial in a sub menu! What kind of moronic developer thinks that's a good idea? Have these idiots ever used a phone?

You can get rid of the Orange stuff easily enough without replacing the ROM! Just install whatever CAB files take your fancy. Start with HTC Home Plugin and use HTC Home Customiser to get it the way you like. Then choose from the dozens of nice diallers people on here have developed.

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This phone is driving me nuts

This phone is making me like...crazy!
and this is why:
I synct some playlists to the phone with windows media player 10, suddenly all playlists on my diamond are empty.
When i removed all the playlists on windows media player 10 to sync them again, it deleted all my songs!
now i got all my songs onto the device again, and wanted to alter 1 playlist, it took windows media player 6 minutes, to just alter, replace, 1 pooping playlist!\
Its not possible to remove a playlist created in the touchflo music player itself.
Not able to select it and then delete it.
Half of the icons in the games folder are ****ed up, we already have a thread with solutions(i tried all of them), but none of them worked.
And the performance, even with the tlr rom or whatever the name was, the diamond still goes slow!
And the battery depletes quickly, with auto attach off, and incoming beam off.
Cant receive a file with bluetooth, with incoming beam on or off, it keeps saying my pc is a new device and asks if i want to set a password, no matter if i set a password or not, it goes back to the menu, and still says my pc is a new device
And i used a mod of the diamond tweaks thread, to auto lock my diamond when the screen goed off.
Well, 1/5 times, it autounlocks itself when i turn the screen back on. not good...
And finally, the opera browser is sometimes not doing what i want. sometimes goes to a random place on the page, if i move and let the stylus go, it moves back to that random page, to fix this i need to quit, then restart opera.
This happens about 1/5 times i use opera.
Is this where i payed 481 euro's for...?
Any ideas how to fix this sh!t is welcome, i already did a hard reset to try getting rid of some problems.
borgqueenx said:
This phone is making me like...crazy!
and this is why:
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Nothing to complain about the phone?
marco899 said:
Nothing to complain about the phone?
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what do you mean?
theres a whole list of bad things there.
btw: forgot to mention that the diamond stylus made some nasty scratches on the screen when wiping over the screen in opera to scroll page, or goto next photo in touchflo, ect.
Got a protector included for that.
Install a fresh rom, I don't have any of your problems.
I use bluetooth a lot:
Sending files (goes hell fast), don't want to use cable when using .cab files here
For my parrot
For use as a modem (have reached 120kbyte/second) when online with phone!
All flawless.
I have very very good results with HTC's own new rom update via e-club.
TLR nr. 2 was quite buggy at my phone.
GOod luck!
borgqueenx said:
This phone is making me like...crazy!
and this is why:
...
Any ideas how to fix this sh!t is welcome, i already did a hard reset to try getting rid of some problems.
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Spare yourself next trouble to come and sell it, as I did with mine
czbird said:
Spare yourself next trouble to come and sell it, as I did with mine
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what have you got now may i ask?
Humbly returned to my previous P535.
I must admit that apart from Diamond, there is currently not many devices to choose from on the market... Was thinking about getting P750, but still unsure...
Xperia scares me, mainly because of the unusual screen resolution (dunno how all the apps will handle it) and that also is supposed to be made by HTC...
Maybe Diamond Pro will not suffer from these newborn diseases that my Diamond had - will see...
i think im going for the iphone 3g. will be expensive though...
the touch diamond really disappoints me...
borgqueenx said:
Its not possible to remove a playlist created in the touchflo music player itself.
Not able to select it and then delete it.
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Use the hardware buttons beneath the screen. You can navigate to the playlist you want to delete, and hold the 'enter' button to get the menu to get the 'right mouse button menu'.
Using your fingers it is impossible as it automatically selects the playlist if you press it. No menu will pop up.
borgqueenx said:
i think im going for the iphone 3g. will be expensive though...
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What do you mean? It will be much cheaper than the Diamond.
I wonder if you're expecting to install applications on that phone, or do any customization...
Mwahahahahahha!!!!
Another Winer! XD
I'd give this post 5/5 for creativity, 6/5 for whining and -1 for usefullness ^^
you can almost FEEEL that you joined only after buying the phone, and I'd guess that it's your first WM one..
Anyway, regarding your problems..
If your phone really is that bad, it's probably broken (pre-production, grey, some dimwit dropped it in the shop or any other reason). In any case, return it by warranty, and get a new one..
Having so many people love this phone, and being able to fix the issues.. and only you and a handful of others run around whining.. Surely it's obvious that it's either a lack of hands.dll or a simple hardware failure..
I mean you should be smart enough to grasp it.... ermm.. right?
Cheers
P.S. Oh, and please don't be offended by this post.. It was mainly inspired by your post anyway, but it was written half-jokingly as I couldn't really answer seriously to that amount of QQ
@ 205_laCoste...
You're my hero.
Had a lot of trouble removing two playlists, but using the hardware buttons solved it right away....
Thank You!
I'm ready to throw my diamond out the window, for pretty much the same reasons. I paid way too much money to have so many problems. And I shouldn't have to flash a new rom. It should be good to go out of the box.
Before I'm also accused of being a whiner, there is a plethora of posts of people having the same problems....with no solutions. The bluetooth issue is a biggie. I tweak my phone to enhance it, but I shouldn't have to be a programmer to simply make it function properly. To suggest that is just arrogant.
There are things that I absolutely love about this phone, but simply as a phone it sucks.
most of the time it is not the fault of the phone but the person
using it.
a lot of people have come here after having a normal phone and
dont understand how to use this one.
treat it more like a computer than a phone.you dont have to be
a programer you just have to know how to read a thread and
follow the directions.
if you have a 1.37 rom you need to upgrade it to a 1.93.
1.37 is crap.okay it shouldnt have been but it was that why
it was upgraded to 1.93.
if you still dont get it then sell the phone.go buy a fruit
phone and get ripped off just like all the other sheep out there.
I have to stand up for nursie here. I've returned my diamond several months ago (yeah, it was driving me nuts) and am happily living with my P750... these offenses are absolutely not necessary and untrue as well as uncritically extolling the device - gee, it's just another PDA
czbird said:
I have to stand up for nursie here. I've returned my diamond several months ago (yeah, it was driving me nuts) and am happily living with my P750... these offenses are absolutely not necessary and untrue as well as uncritically extolling the device - gee, it's just another PDA
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I have to agree, to an extent.
It's generally accepted on here that the Diamond is badly configured out of the box, which is why new users are recommended to flash a new ROM. This is not a good thing, although it's great we have such a good community of chefs to help solve the problem.
What's less well accepted is that much of the HTC software on the Diamond is slow and awkward. I'm talking about TF3D and the HTC dialer in particular, get rid of them and you can make the Diamond a great little phone just like your P750.
964rs777 said:
most of the time it is not the fault of the phone but the person
using it.
a lot of people have come here after having a normal phone and
dont understand how to use this one.
treat it more like a computer than a phone.you dont have to be
a programer you just have to know how to read a thread and
follow the directions.
if you have a 1.37 rom you need to upgrade it to a 1.93.
1.37 is crap.okay it shouldnt have been but it was that why
it was upgraded to 1.93.
if you still dont get it then sell the phone.go buy a fruit
phone and get ripped off just like all the other sheep out there.
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I upgraded to 1.93. And I'm quite proficient at reading and researching. I'm also very proficient with current technology. I get it. What you don't get is that a consumer spending big bucks on this phone shouldn't have to resort to advanced tweaks (which I understand, BTW...you won't find me here asking newbie questions) in order to bring the phone up to basic performing standards.
Again.....yours is a fine example of ignorance masking itself as arrogance.

Probably worst device I've bought!!

Must admit I'm just about to part company with the TyTn. I've been impressed with it to a degree as a PDA but I do think the phone element of it is atrocious. What makes it worse now is that there seems to be problem after problem with it, especially after the 6.1 upgrade.
Latest problem is that today it just seems to slow down, lock or even freeze completely. Going to contacts and hitting a contact in the list doesn't open it up any more and problems just seem to start from there. Once this happens I can't close programmes, can't navigate in them, in fact can't do anything, at least until the damn thing seems to catch up with a key press I made 1/2 an hour ago. Restarts and battery removal seem to fix it for 1/2 an hour or so but then it's back to lag and lock. Sick and tired of it now.
It got turned off and on again while connected to PC by USB and not sure if that's caused it but overall I'm getting quite fed up with the device and the WM 6.1 combi.
Contemplating a hard reset or even re-flash (possibly back to WM6.0 but the problems with SPL reversion put me off that) to try to fix what has just become a bug ridden pain to use.
Did you install Hard SPL to upgrade to WM6.1, or are you using your Carriers ROM?
If so what version of Hard SPL are you currently using?
Ta
Dave
Dont forget that its not the phone´s fault but M$ and HTC. They build the crappy roms. I have cooked rom on my kaiser and I am more then satisfied with it.
Absolutely nothing wrong with mine and I've had it since Jan this year.
Whatever problem has occurred has been as a result of my installing some app that conflicts with something, but I have aways been able to rectify matters.
Runs like a well-oiled machine.
MACkjam said:
Absolutely nothing wrong with mine and I've had it since Jan this year.
Whatever problem has occurred has been as a result of my installing some app that conflicts with something, but I have aways been able to rectify matters.
Runs like a well-oiled machine.
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Same here, though i have this device since may this year. I have to say that a flash with a custom rom improves the quality of the kaiser. Carrier roms are slow and full with programs i do not use.
My only remark is that the phone reacts slow on phonecalls. It takes a second or two before the phone rings when you are called. Besides that, the phone responses slow when i end a call. So the reaction time can be improved. Still: that's my only remark and i do not even know if that is a phone or os related problem.
MACkjam said:
Absolutely nothing wrong with mine and I've had it since Jan this year.
Whatever problem has occurred has been as a result of my installing some app that conflicts with something, but I have aways been able to rectify matters.
Runs like a well-oiled machine.
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Ditto, I've had mine a year and it's a champ. Either your spl is wrong for 6.1 or your phone is sick and needs to go to the phone hospital.
Never had any problem with my Tytn II ....love it,, with me since April this year...
The Copilot GPS software which i got free with phone works like a dream.
Cheers.
No problems with my device and I am taking it to the limits daily.
If you need a solid fast reliable smartphone - you can sure find better then this.
but if you look for a device that can be configured to fit exactly your taste and needs with the best support ever (yes, I'm speaking about the XDA-Dev forum) keep this one.
this is the ultimate device for those who are seeking for constant improvment and willing to invest some of their time in it (flashing flashing flashing)
Well I'm glad for those that are having a better experience than mine. Mine is still pretty dismal though.
Like an idiot I just followed the instructions from HTC for installing their 6.1 and haven't touched SPL. It was all working fine (of sorts) yesterday (despite the fact that I wished I had not upgraded to 6.1) andf then it just keeps locking up. Using SMS and hitting to accept a word offered by predictive text guarantees a lock as does opening contacts and selecting a contact. Will look at the SPL issue but didn't really want to be tinkering with that as I wanted to keep it all stock from the warranty side. At the moment though I suspect even the warranty will not cover it when I hurl it against the wall from having to do the 25th reset of the day.
I suggest you do a hard reset; then install Hard SpL and go to WM 6.1. Once SpL is installed there will be very few, if any, problems with the device.
Cheers
MACkjam said:
Absolutely nothing wrong with mine and I've had it since Jan this year.
Whatever problem has occurred has been as a result of my installing some app that conflicts with something, but I have aways been able to rectify matters.
Runs like a well-oiled machine.
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Same for me. I have had nothing but great luck with my 8925 with the stock ATT ROM.... And its a refurb!
Maybe you just have a bad phone. You don't judge the heard by one horse.
Empgamer said:
Well I'm glad for those that are having a better experience than mine. Mine is still pretty dismal though.
Like an idiot I just followed the instructions from HTC for installing their 6.1 and haven't touched SPL. It was all working fine (of sorts) yesterday (despite the fact that I wished I had not upgraded to 6.1) andf then it just keeps locking up. Using SMS and hitting to accept a word offered by predictive text guarantees a lock as does opening contacts and selecting a contact. Will look at the SPL issue but didn't really want to be tinkering with that as I wanted to keep it all stock from the warranty side. At the moment though I suspect even the warranty will not cover it when I hurl it against the wall from having to do the 25th reset of the day.
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Thats weird mate, before even knowing that xda existed I flashed mine to 6.1 on the HTC site and it worked like a charm.
I have to say that I bought this phone well knowing that it was more of a ppc than a phone. I have to say that this phone has BLOWN ME AWAY with the capabilities shown through this forum. I suppose I shouldnt be surprised, being that it is practically a computer, all the mods are basically batch files and adjusting the registry or are skins. I absolutely love this machine!

Beware of S2U2

If you value your productivity, beware of S2U2.
S2U2 works fine most of the time. My problems began when my screen stopped responding. All of a sudden, there was no way to get into the system. I had set up S2U2 to lock automatically, and just a few days before the screen stopped responding, coincidentally, S2U2 began to act up as well, locking the screen as the phone booted up.
Here I am, without touch screen capability, S2U2 booting up right at the start and no way to get into the system since I cannot use the slider.
Finally, I got in by using the Hard keys Windows+File Manager. I deleted the S2U2 directory so that the OS would not find the program next time it started. Next, I used "Remove Programs" to remove S2U2, but strangely, the progam refuses to be removed and continues to hang around like a bad egg, even though persona non grata.
I can't edit the registry either, and S2U2 tries to launch automatically each time I reboot the phone. What's more, when it cannot (since I renamed the folder), it eats up resources in the background and the phone literally comes to a crawl.
Is there any way to get this freebie off my phone? Removing the program doesn't do it. The phone still tries to launch S2U2 each time. PHM Regedit is no help without a touch-screen interface.
Any way to proceed? Thanks in advance.
Hard reset.
Did you install the latest S2U2 (v1.52)? I've never had any of the problems you listed before.
Nothing to do with version of S2U2
I don't believe it has anything to do with the version of S2U2 installed. The scenario I've described applies when the touchscreen stops responding. Since the only way to unlock S2U2 is via the touch slider (or at least I appear to have configured it that way), I'm effectively shut out of the phone except through a hard key such as Windows+File Manager (the other hard keys do not work).
Of course, much of my remaining touch-screen only software is by and large crippled, including PHM Regedit and MemMaid. Except for a notably well-designed Pocket Informant which provides excellent keyboard shortcuts and the native HTC programs which are also quite keyboard-responsive, most functionality in almost all the software I've installed is hosed.
Seems to me manufacturers should incorporate good keyboard shortcuts in all their touch-screen based software for just such eventualities as the touchscreen going dead, much like Pocket Informant has done.
S2U2 MUST incorporate this functionality, seeing as it is the gateway to the phone. Some kind of keyboard method to gain access must be provided, and not just the screen slider.
Why not posting that in the S2U2 development thread?
I have never had this problem on my device and I have been using S2U2 since version 1.22. I now have the latest which is v1.52. Never had this problem.
There is a setting in S2U2 which enables d-pad control as well, which I use as I hate touching the screen with my fingers.
There is also a neat commercial app called SafeMode and I believe that there is a similar freeware app. SK Tools would be your best bet to completely remove any app.
Finally, I do not believe that this is an S2U2 problem at all.
Not merely an S2U2 problem
I agree it is not just an S2U2 problem, but a problem for all software that uses a touchscreen. However, S2U2 is special since it locks the phone. The Slider Only setting is dangerous. By default, the D-PAD control should always be enabled and not allowed to be disabled.
It's always safer to have a spare key to a lock!
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SK Tools would be your best bet to completely remove any app.
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I have Memmaid. Problem is, once the touch screen stops responding, most Memmaid features cannot be accessed using the keyboard. Including the "Uninstall" function.
WM software should be designed keeping multiple and alternate user interface methods in mind as a backup. Take Pocket Informant. I continue to use most of its functionality to maintain my contacts and schedules even though some of its few touch-screen only features are now inaccesible.
why don't you hook up your tilt to the pc, start active sync, install MyMobiler (tool for remote controlling the pocket pc, its free).
next, rename the s2u2 folder so it can start on reboot, reboot your device... unlock it using mymobiler (it sends the mouse movements to your ppc so you a unresponsive touchscreen doens't matter) and uninstall it afterwards. that should work fine.
http://www.mymobiler.com/
WMNovice said:
If you value your productivity, beware of S2U2.
S2U2 works fine most of the time. My problems began when my screen stopped responding.
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You had a hardware failure. You did not set the available options to use the dpad. Your fault.
This is a strongly worded thread, and is nonsense.
I agree , 100's 1000's maybe 10's of thousands of people use A__C's program with no problems whatsoever, I am one of them. If you did not set it up right, which you obviously didn't, that is your fault, not his.
He spends his time and resources making it better with new releases, not making it idiot proof,( a saying, no offense meant )
Starting a new thread , to trash a guy's program ( a program, as I said, that works great for 1000's of others ) gives you very little , if any , credibility at all.
Maybe you should go over to A-C's S2U2 thread in development and hacking, and try to work out the problems " you " are having with S2U2, with him in the appropriate thread, instead of starting a new thread to trash the work of a fellow member.
It is meant to be a strongly worded thread
Any software that has the potential to lock you out of your phone should be idiot proof.
I am a software engineer. If I can make the mistake of not setting the dpad control, non software engineers most certainly can. This thread is meant to warn novices before they face a similar situation they may be unable to work their way out of, and not to disparage the writer of the program, who I am sure puts in sincere efforts to build a robust utility.
My real mistake lies in believing that HTC phones are of a high quality. They are not. They are relatively flimsy compared to Nokia. I never had a Nokia screen die on me within a year of purchase as has the HTC Tilt's.
ooooo-kay then!
WMNovice said:
Any software that has the potential to lock you out of your phone should be idiot proof.
I am a software engineer. If I can make the mistake of not setting the dpad control, non software engineers most certainly can. This thread is meant to warn novices before they face a similar situation they may be unable to work their way out of, and not to disparage the writer of the program, who I am sure puts in sincere efforts to build a robust utility.
My real mistake lies in believing that HTC phones are of a high quality. They are not. They are relatively flimsy compared to Nokia. I never had a Nokia screen die on me within a year of purchase as has the HTC Tilt's.
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Wow... ok. My only suggestion here would be to go found your own forum - maybe forum.nokia-developers.com where you can rip apart and disassemble different OS revisions on differing nokia hardware platforms for the betterment of all Nokia users everywhere. Good luck!
oh, and the next time I lock my keys in the car I'll call CNN and trash the car manufacturer instead of owning up to the fact that I screwed up and will have to pay the piper and then move forward knowing that I've learned from my mistake and perfectly willing to let people know that locking your keys in the car sucks out loud - maybe with a post titled "Don't do this!" instead of "ALL CHEVY OWNERS BEWARE!!!"
Bad poster! No Biscuit!!
WMNovice said:
Any software that has the potential to lock you out of your phone should be idiot proof.
I am a software engineer. If I can make the mistake of not setting the dpad control, non software engineers most certainly can. This thread is meant to warn novices before they face a similar situation they may be unable to work their way out of, and not to disparage the writer of the program, who I am sure puts in sincere efforts to build a robust utility.
My real mistake lies in believing that HTC phones are of a high quality. They are not. They are relatively flimsy compared to Nokia. I never had a Nokia screen die on me within a year of purchase as has the HTC Tilt's.
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How about you actually try reading a little bit like how to do a hard-reset without going into Start/Settings/System/ClearStorage because if you honestly haven't done a hard-reset than you can't say your screen died....
WMNovice said:
Any software that has the potential to lock you out of your phone should be idiot proof.
I am a software engineer. If I can make the mistake of not setting the dpad control, non software engineers most certainly can. This thread is meant to warn novices before they face a similar situation they may be unable to work their way out of, and not to disparage the writer of the program, who I am sure puts in sincere efforts to build a robust utility.
My real mistake lies in believing that HTC phones are of a high quality. They are not. They are relatively flimsy compared to Nokia. I never had a Nokia screen die on me within a year of purchase as has the HTC Tilt's.
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If you are a software engineer, then you should know that if you just delete a program's folder, then you have just guaranteed that the program will be very difficult to uninstall. Installers copy programs to storage, create registry entries, place shortcuts, and register uninstall information. By deleting the directory, the uninstaller gets lost.
Granted, the installer subsystem should probably be a bit more robust and be able to take certain scenarios into account. However, it's not S2U2's fault.
And I have experience with a large number of HTC devices. Hell, look at how many smart phones there are that are made by HTC and branded under different names. I've never had anything but a positive experience with their devices. That's including the fact that I spend a lot of time at this site which means I do evil things to my devices on a weekly basis, and still no problems.
WMNovice said:
Any software that has the potential to lock you out of your phone should be idiot proof.
I am a software engineer. If I can make the mistake of not setting the dpad control, non software engineers most certainly can. This thread is meant to warn novices before they face a similar situation they may be unable to work their way out of, and not to disparage the writer of the program, who I am sure puts in sincere efforts to build a robust utility.
My real mistake lies in believing that HTC phones are of a high quality. They are not. They are relatively flimsy compared to Nokia. I never had a Nokia screen die on me within a year of purchase as has the HTC Tilt's.
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I guess as much as A_C tried to make it idiot proof, he obviously didn't succeed.
Having looked at your history of " 26 " posts, and all your,help me sync my phone, help me sync skype contacts, help me load apps onto my phone, help me, my touch screen doesn't work , help me ...help me ...help me threads and A_C's 1000 + posts of helping people and writing great apps, and updating and supporting them and this community, let me be the first to say.........
See ya ! We in the HTC community are going to miss you and all the help that you have provided. All the factual insight you have given us on the programs we use every day. But I guess our loss is Nokia's gain.
Appropriate username, though!
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Appropriate username, though!
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Defo
People who scream help all the time often get unheard, not as in heard as in sheep but as in listened to....
Oh i wonder why as when i read the first post it reminded me of working with el noobus students who always say "This doesn't work" so my answer "What have you done?"
Why is it what have you done? instead of what doesn't work........ 99% of all computer issues are user errors 1% is Bill Gates getting back @ you for choosing M$
Anyway i'm talking tosh just like the OP.
WMNovice said:
Any software that has the potential to lock you out of your phone should be idiot proof.
I am a software engineer. If I can make the mistake of not setting the dpad control, non software engineers most certainly can. This thread is meant to warn novices before they face a similar situation they may be unable to work their way out of, and not to disparage the writer of the program, who I am sure puts in sincere efforts to build a robust utility.
My real mistake lies in believing that HTC phones are of a high quality. They are not. They are relatively flimsy compared to Nokia. I never had a Nokia screen die on me within a year of purchase as has the HTC Tilt's.
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poor choice of words indeed i to am a LONG time user of S2U2 and have never had problems, and i've NEVER had problems with HTC products (other than the price) and as far as nokia goes they are good phones if you want something that has LIMITED POTENTIAL/UPGRADABILITY!!!
Touchy, touchy
Sheesh! You guys sure are a a touchy bunch. Here is a well-meaning individual trying to warn you all of a hazardous situation that could cost you hours of productivity, and what do I get? Calls to leave!! How juvenile. I'm glad at least one of you are concerned about productivity and the loss of time such unnecessary lockout entails.
Just out of curiosity, how many of you have D-Pad control enabled on S2U2? Be honest now. And the analogy with losing car keys that someone made earlier just doesn't cut it, buddy. As we all know, car owners are supplied two sets of keys when they purchase a car.
Sure, S2U2 provides the second set (D-pad control). All I'm saying is that it should be enabled by default, with a strong warning to anyone who tries to disable it.
And don't tell me I didn't warn you all if you're locked out of your phone due to screen failure.
I'm just not the 'buy and throw away' type of guy, so I'm not going anywhere. I still have a life to squeeze out of this contraption so I can justify its high cost. And oh, I intend to remain a WM novice! I have no time for amateurish OSes.
I'll try this suggestion
kaiserII101 said:
How about you actually try reading a little bit like how to do a hard-reset without going into Start/Settings/System/ClearStorage because if you honestly haven't done a hard-reset than you can't say your screen died....
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Thanks, I'll try this out. In my case, the time factor is a constraint on how much time I can spend in fixing the phone, but I have no choice, so I'll give it a shot.
Thanks again!!

O2 Stellar (AKA KAiser/TyTynII) Emergency Calls Only

Hi guys. It's been a while
I have a Stellar that is displaying a white screen with blue buttons, like a phone dialler, and is prompting for a password to unlock. I have seen this once before on another Stellar but it's been so long I've forgotten what to do. Does anyone have any ideas how to get round this or get rid of it without doing a hard reset?
I don't really want to lose the data as it's not my device. If I have to rebuild I will but wondered if there was a quick fix for this?
Basically I can reset or switch off and it goes through the O2 splash and then the WM splash too....then this dreaded bloody screen pops up! I initially thought it was an issue with the SIM so I rang O2 and had them check it, all is OK that end.
I've stuck another SIM in and it still does it, so I'm sort of thinking it's hardware? I've also tried various combos of numbers to try and bypass this screen. All I can do is ring 999 which is not clever or funny.
So, I'm all ears. Cheers guys!
Oh, and if you need to know, it's the standard O2 ROM over which we apply our company build using spbclone. Don't know the version but it's not running Home Brew as such - our clone is basically tweaked user settings and GPRS settings
I think the first thing you need to do is to unlock your phone. Search here or they are many sites that will offer you a good deal to do that.
Have you try a hard reset? just to double check. If you see the unlocking # prompt your screen again you will need to unlock the phone.
Unfortunately unlocking is not an option. As no-one else has posted suggestions, and you guys were my best bet, it would appear I'm going to have to re-image it. Poo.
PDA-Princess said:
Unfortunately unlocking is not an option. As no-one else has posted suggestions, and you guys were my best bet, it would appear I'm going to have to re-image it. Poo.
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Good Luck then

WM5 -> WM6 via memory Card? Please HELP!

Dear friends,
I just gave up after having spend the most obnoxious 2-3 hours of
my life trying to activate a connection pc (asus desktop and Fugitsu notebook, both XP operated and performing very reasonably),attempting to connect with my HTC TRIN100 (3600, i believe) and suffering the infinite stupid bravoury of the M$ gif animation of a sort of hook shuffle approaching its natural craddle and then taking back as if byted by a wild small beast -- this scene altogether accompannied by a sonnar sound submarine prospecting-like. My God how ridiculous and poseur attitude can a bad programme assume!
I ended up deeply frustrated (after having even installed Office and
Outlook (which i hate) just to satisfy the demands of M$ Active Sync but reached nowhere in both my rigs. And it goes on declaring: Not Connected!!!
Terribly enough i came to learn that there's no alternative application
at my disposal to entail a flashing Rom action from WM5 to WM6.1,
Mary 37, for instance.
Apparently there's a way to perform this operation from the SCard but
then again the so-called instructions are so frightening and full of
hardcore tech mumbo-jumbo specifics that i had to give it up. And the whole intention got buried within the flux of my enraged curses and tachycardic insults.
Since my device does not allow to install any applications (.cabs i copied to SCard
-- it wheels and wheels around for ever and does not install any programme, which is another stupid situation it offers, i need a strong medicine such as flash out its Rom and or edit its
registry but i ignore what i should in such status quo...).
Is there anykind soul that would lend me a helping hand in the said task???
THANKZ KINDLY for your possible effective help,
HN
NOBODY???
No one to lend a helping objective advise?!
Good grief!...
-- What's this forum good for, then?!
simple, extract your .nbh from rom you pretend to upgrade and rename it to TRINIMG.nbh ant put it the root of your SD card, then enter bootloader....
for other questions about upgrading check wiki:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Trinity
Bem hajas! Thankz man.
Will try to follow your advise.
just clarify one more small detail:
The so-called bootloader should also be in the same folder containing the
TRINIMG.nbh, am i correct?
If not how can i activate it otherwise? ACTIV SYNC is a lotery i go on loosing...
Cumps,
HN
N'Rique said:
Will try to follow your advise.
just clarify one more small detail:
The so-called bootloader should also be in the same folder containing the
TRINIMG.nbh, am i correct?
If not how can i activate it otherwise? ACTIV SYNC is a lotery i go on loosing...
Cumps,
HN
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bootloader is a menu...
To enter bootloader Push and hold the Camera and Power buttons on the side, then reset with stylus.
the TRINIMG.nbh file have to be in the root of the SD card not inside in a folder...
If you pretend to flash with a cooked rom it's recommended that you upgrade the spl to hard-spl. Preventing you from a bad flash and your trinity to become a brick...
read the wiki link that I gave you there you can find important and useful information...
Oh...not to know is to be a blind person (kind of)
Thanks but no joy.
I performed the ssplTRIN and all i got was a 4 stripes monitor:
RED with: TRIN100, IPL-ISR(?) by Des
TRIN100 1.07.ds
GREEN
BLUE
WHITE in the bottom with the word serial 'Serial'.
I had to soft reset with stylus to return to apparently same old WM5 way.
Will now try the manouevre you explained.
NO| Nothing. Absolute failure. It did not react any differently from a soft reset made
just through the stylus in the bottom hole...
It booted with the damned Vodafone Splash as ever and presented the very same
Blue styled "Today" -- not even a sign of the flash -- i guess i will have to give up and
announce hereby i'm willing to pay for some expert friend to operate on my behalf.
I'm sorry to say it but the truth is i have a university degree and i do not understand
the high-tech mumbo-jumbo "instructions" and sundry referrals people use even in the
site you appointed me to.
And then if you acknowledge the sheer number of complains of " i bricked my device
beyond repair! -- Help me!!!", one ends up (as i quoted before remembering the old
painting where some blind guys lead groups of other even more blind ones to some
pitfall (no pun or offense intended in our case!).
Thanks for your patience anyway and if you know of anyone who might be willing to
loose sometime with my device (under a reasonable fee, of course), i would appreciate
such an information.
Regards,
HN
N'Rique said:
Thanks but no joy.
I performed the ssplTRIN and all i got was a 4 stripes monitor:
RED with: TRIN100, IPL-ISR(?) by Des
TRIN100 1.07.ds
GREEN
BLUE
WHITE in the bottom with the word serial 'Serial'.
I had to soft reset with stylus to return to apparently same old WM5 way.
Will now try the manouevre you explained.
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you have to do is hard reset, only then reflash with the official Rom
about official Rom you can find in http://www.shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=windows mobile&model=Trinity
To perform a hard reset
Hard reset Soft reset
1. Press and hold the Left SOFT KEY and the Right SOFT KEY, and at the same time, use the stylus to press the RESET button at the bottom center part of your device.
2. Release the stylus, but continue pressing the two soft key buttons. Release them only when you see the following message on your device screen: “Press SEND to restore factory default, press END to quit.“
3. Press on your device.
Warning! Your device will be set back to factory default settings. Please ensure any additional installed programs and/or user data have been backed up before a hard reset is performed.
Report to HAKIM RAHMAN
Greetings.
I followed rigorously -- as far as i could understand them -- your instructions:
obtained the so-called hard-reset, reached the light gray monitor and the msg
about sending to restore factory settings...
But then it says: press END to quit -- which local, what place, where is any button or label depicting END? Nowhere. NONE whatsoever...Zilch.
Your point 3. declares: «Press on your device».
I'm sorry for my dumbness but 'press' what? where?
=> Once the gray monitor, with its obnoxious message about sending to restoration freezed there, and i feared it grew accustomed to it, i waited for
a while, and pressed like a mental-retarded in all the buttons and commands-alike protuberances of the device and, since i got no response from that juggling and much less any action concerning the file "TRINIMG.nbh" i had previously placed in newly formated duly inserted sdisk, i gave it some seconds more & then empaled the stylus in the bottom of the creature.
Then it ressuscitated, displaying the Vodafone logo-splash and entering the
green wallpaper of Windows "push to bla, bla".
After a rapid checking i realized that except for some programmes icons greyed out and paralized, nothing more had change, nothing, nothing.
This is a "basket case". W'ont you agree?
Thanks for your attention anyway, with my kind regards,
HN
N'Rique said:
Your point 3. declares: «Press on your device».
I'm sorry for my dumbness but 'press' what? where?
HN
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It means to power on your device -> press on
Thanks XARABAS
But if it means press power on, the bluish printed msg states press END to
restore factory defaults or QUIT - where and/or how does one quit from such a frightening situation, i.e.: the milky wallpaper bearing that infinitive stupid msg?
2. Further, unfortunately i was right to be so fearfull:
After the hard reset, it rebooted as if nothing happened with the small light
consequences i described (some freezed programmes), but later on i realized
a much worse side-effect: the device does not recognize any memory card:
and i tried several different -- it continues to declare that NONE is installed!
I'm beginning to heavily repent having dared to to perform such HIGHLY risky
operation...
What can i do, now? Trust the device to the garbage tin or is there any simple & effective, last rite i could be able to use and convince the cheesy device to accept the fact that there are accessories such as scards??
Thanks for the eventual possible patience.
Regards,
HN
Which version of active sync do you have atm, latest?
Let me add just another bit of info
Hi Xarabas,
To spice my text above, just consider this:
I followed an advise of someone of this here site:
CHANGE the SIM card and enter the IMEI #. (Could not enter the whole
number since it does not accept the last 2 digits!). But better much better
after having previously with siuccess perform the SSPL TRIN.exe i think it
had unlock the CID and the other item i hate to recall the name, complete
with progress column of small squares adding up and announcing EXIT in
the end; after this, when of changing the vodafone sim card i had for another card i use, the stupid htc declared the new sim BLOCKED and added
a message saying: «Since you've tried 13 times, now you have to wait
until the latency time be exceeded».
This would gain a championship of stupidity! I never tried not even once!!!
Active Sync 4.5 for me is an already lost bet: it does not connect.
Regards,
HN
Ah, crap, only 4.5 works on XP, at least that's what MS says.
Have you considered upgrading to Win7 and trying with 6.1 active sync, works for me.
N'Rique said:
But if it means press power on, the bluish printed msg states press END to
restore factory defaults or QUIT - where and/or how does one quit from such a frightening situation, i.e.: the milky wallpaper bearing that infinitive stupid msg?
2. Further, unfortunately i was right to be so fearfull:
After the hard reset, it rebooted as if nothing happened with the small light
consequences i described (some freezed programmes), but later on i realized
a much worse side-effect: the device does not recognize any memory card:
and i tried several different -- it continues to declare that NONE is installed!
I'm beginning to heavily repent having dared to to perform such HIGHLY risky
operation...
What can i do, now? Trust the device to the garbage tin or is there any simple & effective, last rite i could be able to use and convince the cheesy device to accept the fact that there are accessories such as scards??
Thanks for the eventual possible patience.
Regards,
HN
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Try formating your SD card in a computer with fat16 or fat 32 filesystem.
And try not using SDHC cards, some cards it's required some tweaks to make them work...
To my friends Xarabas and [email protected] (?)
1. Windows 7? Oh good Lord that woud be the end! The HORROR! (As Marlon
Brando declared in Apocalypse Now, did you see it?).
That is the opera-prima of encoded perversity, juggling with the user and
obliging him to follow sundry prefetches. Thanks but no thanks.
It took me several years of study to get around all the 'niceties' of XP -- in
compairison with Windows 2000 Pro. To tweak and escape to Xenocodes, to
DRMs, MVTs and the sort.
Have you ever think about the 'evolution' of Windows Media Player and all
the restrictions it went on entailing?! No, thank you -- as soon as Linux with
qemu, reaches full devellopment, i'll wave good bye to WinBlows XP.
Regards to you, for now.
2. Greetings also to you Hacker...
I've done all the steps you advise. As you know Fat16 reduces overall capacity of a formated SCard, but what the heck: i used Hirens 12 utils and
formated my 8 Gb, which now bears only 6 Gb and something in capacity.
Luckily enough after having soft-resetted some 12 if not 13 times in a row,
my stupid device finnaly decided to acknowledge it, but then, as a token of its erratic humor, returned to an old bipolar psychic disease of his: it allowed me to install coreplayer -- but nothing more (even .jar chess games were forbidden! _ Midlet Failure it announces. As for anyother application i tryed to install, it shows the logo wheeling around and around forever until it crashes and freezes.
I am so sick and tired of this idiotic performances and so i flag my defeat here
and today (better said: to-night) enough time lost in improductive and frustrating activitties.
I plan to acquire an ANDROID thing, which they tell me is much more open and stable -- Would you agree?
Thanks for your attention in this idiotic quest of mine.
And best regards.
HN
N'Rique said:
I plan to acquire an ANDROID thing, which they tell me is much more open and stable -- Would you agree?
Thanks for your attention in this idiotic quest of mine.
And best regards.
HN
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I haven't tested any Android device to it's limits, but I've played with some devices for short times and Android is for sure a good OS. With a lot of applications and potentiality...
I have my trinity since november 2006 and I'll be with my trinity as far as it keeps working good and without problems, but when I'll bough a new device it will be a Android one, for sure.
If it was right now, Htc Desire Z it's the dream...
Maybe your trinity came faulty, and you had bad luck...

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