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Hi all,
Finally did it and got myself a Kaiser. Long time Hermes user/supporter.
Im busy reading all the faq's and wiki but what do you suggest i have a look at in roms?
I know CRC's/DVTs were preferential in Hermes dont know enough about Kaiser cooks yet, although i do see a few of the older names that have moved on.
Im in Aus, and this phone is stock so im going to have to do radio as well.
Glad to meet you and hope to be an active contributor here as well.
Try them all, that's what I did... till I settled with one I personally liked. There is no risk involved once phone is completely sim/security unlocked, just time...
Mate,
Enjoy your new phone I did the same change about 6 months ago.
I am in Melbourne and have tried a big selection of the roms available.
Firstly use Kaiser Unlocker to hardspl sim/cid unlock.
Then Jumpspl to change to hardspl 3.56
My suggestion would be try the Garmin1.2 rom or version 2 if it is out when you check.
Try the radio that loads with this rom or
Change to neon 1.65.24.36
This setup works great for my location with no problems that I have noticed..
Have Fun
Thanks Halon,
My 2 specialities was Media Centers and Hermes programming. So I feel and I guess that I am back to noob status
Its great to get a point in the right direction.
Reading the Wiki's and it seems like alot more info/processes than the old Hermes.
Everyones a noob at something.
There is a lot of information here and dare I say it a lot of it can be confusing and a bit disjointed but I am sure with your previous experience with the Hermes you'll be flying real soon.
UPDATE -
Reading vast amounts of information in one night - I have configured the Kaiser with Garmin's 2 ROM!
Halon .. i have done all of your suggestions and everything is working well. (Except for MSVC which slowed down the entire ROM for some reason), Uninstalled that and I am now back to normal. Wierd.
Ill now have to see which of my heremes cabs do work and what cabs dont work ..
Im also looking forward to reading about the video card driver problem .. will have to google that thread.
Cheers all.
TEST (now with a Kaiser)
I did the switch from Hermes to Kaiser about 2 months ago, so far all of the cabs I had used on my Hermes are working on my Kaiser.
stesul411 said:
I did the switch from Hermes to Kaiser about 2 months ago, so far all of the cabs I had used on my Hermes are working on my Kaiser.
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I think is better if u use cabs specifiec for kaizer, u can find then in signatures from Senior members or moderators,( like P1tater, Skatdawg, etc) or just ask that someone is going to point u inthe right direction.
Welcome, Test. I'm not yet switched, used both currently. Long story behind it, back then my jasjam was dropped and having the whitescreen and d-pad issues. Need months to repair it, and I need a PDA so I bought Kaiser.
Anyway, just to inform that most of my hermes cabs collection are working on kaiser. The problem is not with the device, but rather on the WM version. My experience, many apps don't run well on 6.1, like skype etc, some not even run at all. Some already have an update which works, and some doesn't.
Short, it's better to always looking for the latest stable build apps, if you can. The problem is, most of them are scattered around forums here. Not necessarily only in Kaiser forum. Good luck, mate.
p.s: yet i must admit, you're posting in a slightly incorrect forum...
Hermes to Kaiser
So, for those who made the switch. Is it worthwhile?
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So, for those who made the switch. Is it worthwhile?
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biggest waste of money i have made in a while, hermes was just as fast and did all the same things only thing the kaiser does the hermes doesn't is the screen flipping up a little which i never use any way Iphone 3rd Gen when it comes out for me or the X1experia but I need processor speed now after the slow kaiser
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biggest waste of money i have made in a while, hermes was just as fast and did all the same things only thing the kaiser does the hermes doesn't is the screen flipping up a little which i never use any way Iphone 3rd Gen when it comes out for me or the X1experia but I need processor speed now after the slow kaiser
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The problem is Qualcomm. Crappy company from the ground up.
I think there is a phone coming out that has a Marvell Chip in it. 624mhz sound good to you with a Overclocking up to 800mhz.
I have been switching back and forth between the two phones, I got to say that the Hermes is a better overall phone, I am not that impressed with the tilt whats so ever....
Hm.You sure it's not HTC who did the crapping, ATW? Not that i don't agree with you, but just want your further enlightment, sir ;-)
For me, a layman, i have heard Qualcomm for quite some time, maybe even longer than HTC (at least for brand recognition). And i heard that they held many patents on cdma technology too. Not sounds too crappy for me, is it?
I remember having discussed in general forum,Menneissys told me that some of the codes are actually optimized in msm7200 than Hermes 'outdated' samsung processor. For example in bluetoth aadp streaming. Though i must admit that the ATI Imageon on Hermes make it faster for graphic apps.
Btw, is it energy efficient to have processor running over 600mhz?
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Ohhh YES, definitely.
The best proof was when I had to send my Kaiser for repair, going back to the Hermes was awful. Such a slow brick, I simply hard reset it and left it with nothing installed at all and was using it as a phone only, couldn't bear fiddling with it after having had the Kaiser for a moment. Even that way it was 2-3x slower than the Kaiser.
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biggest waste of money i have made in a while, hermes was just as fast and did all the same things only thing the kaiser does the hermes doesn't is the screen flipping up a little which i never use any way
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My kaiser is twice as fast as my hermes was... and far more stable. Shame your one didn't seem to come with GPS.....
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For me, a layman, i have heard Qualcomm for quite some time, maybe even longer than HTC (at least for brand recognition). And i heard that they held many patents on cdma technology too. Not sounds too crappy for me, is it?
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I'm very happy that Qualcomm holds patents in CDMA, but what does that have to do with performance of a chip?
Let's just put it this way. Marvell used to be a Intel company. I much rather put my money / faith in a company that is the #1 producer of chips.
My Samsung 400mhz chip gave me better performance. Heck my TI OMAP 250mhz was just as good as this Qualcomm crap!
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Btw, is it energy efficient to have processor running over 600mhz?
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It is when the chip is smaller and requires less energy to run. I'm not sure what the nm is on the Marvell chip but I know that the talk time will be increased by over 2 hours which is a pretty significant improvement by up to 50%. How's that for energy efficient?
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My kaiser is twice as fast as my hermes was... and far more stable. Shame your one didn't seem to come with GPS.....
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o yea? My Hermes has not had even one reset running V3G's rom, yet I have to do several with the Kaiser although that maybe contributed to the roms not being debugged completly....
As to the GPS, its great for those who do not spent a lot of time using it as a cell phone, try using the GPS and talking on the phone via BT and driving for a living , maybe you will see just how great and useful the GPS is... not to mention the battery life....pssfft
I use my X51v as a GPS/w a BT unit where it sits in a holder right in line of my eye sight which is also my MP3 player hooked directly into my alpine .
Oh yea how about the how the buttons are located on the Hermes vs the kaiser ? look just how close they are on the Kaiser , they missed the boat on that...the layout is very poor...
Now do not get me wrong the Kaiser is a good unit, but it is lacking in many areas.
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Oh yea how about the how the buttons are located on the Hermes vs the kaiser ?
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Yep. On the Hermes I could never use the center "enter" button without pressing 1 or 2 of the direction buttons at the same time and had to repeat my press everytime to get it right... with the Kaiser the buttons finally serve some purpose again.
I was just about to buy Kaiser when I came accros this issue with video drivers. Was this sorted out or shoud I start looking for alternative pda?
I think we all love it but for some of its pains. You could get a touch pro; very good by the looks of things.
or an xperia
There's been some improvement with www.HTCClassaction.org. It's nice, but doesn't fix it all.
My recommendation has always been to go into the Cell Providers Store and use the Kaiser. Get a feel for it. If you like it buy it. If not put it down and pick up another phone to try.
I'm actually surprised how much the video drivers or lack there of has been a prolbem for me.
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My recommendation has always been to go into the Cell Providers Store and use the Kaiser. Get a feel for it. If you like it buy it. If not put it down and pick up another phone to try.
I'm actually surprised how much the video drivers or lack there of has been a prolbem for me.
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I don't know if the store experience is really what you should use to rate the phone, because you would only see it in stock ROM.... I think custom rom is much better and faster, inorder to experience that, you need to buy it... Can't you buy it, try it out for couple of days, and return it if you don't like it?
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I don't know if the store experience is really what you should use to rate the phone, because you would only see it in stock ROM.... I think custom rom is much better and faster, inorder to experience that, you need to buy it... Can't you buy it, try it out for couple of days, and return it if you don't like it?
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Yes I bet you could try it thgat way. I'm simply talking about holding it in your hands and getting a tactile feel for the device. You don't buy a baseball mitt that doesn't feel right in your hands do you. And also with stock ROMs you can get a feel for the workings. I guess I should have clarified that point.
Realize that by trying it out in the store you are running a Stock ROM, cooked ROMs and exponentially better in performance. (Wow this is the first time I got to use the word "exponentially" since I learned it in High School.)
All i can say is stay away from anything with a qualcomm process, later this year and next year there will be many devices released with different processors other than qualcomm.
newb here but, what does the video drivers do exactly, ive used my friends original, non upgraded htc tytn2 and it didnt seem that bad. what would the drivers improve, just the speed or somethig?
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newb here but, what does the video drivers do exactly, ive used my friends original, non upgraded htc tytn2 and it didnt seem that bad. what would the drivers improve, just the speed or somethig?
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That's exactly my point!
Apparently it makes Doom run slow.... But I don't care to play games on a 2.8" screen.
I have to agree with Jimmy. I use for my tilt for mainly messing around on the net when I'm bored or playing some small time games, no emulators or nothing. I thoroughly enjoy my device especially with all the help and fixes from here on XDA. I do feel that the drivers issues need to be fixed because a majority of users were misled... However depending on what you use it for the lack of drivers isnt that big a deal. Hell I like mine so much Ive pretty much kept it stock(no flashing of ROMS)
If you are getting it at a provider discount, go for it. Can't go wrong at that price point for AT&T for example. It's still an amazing high end phone, especially if you do Custom ROM.
Maybe I something missed or not...
I think everyone who use shift want that it become fullphone.
I`m sure that everyone ready to donate 50$ for this function.
but there are just one person who can do it, cmonex?
I call all to join to this who want this functionality we`ll make a foundation and donate money for this deal.
just one and final question to cmonex: will you do it and does it possible?
P.S. maybe someone other be able to do it?
why not,
I donate for SD Card funtionality too, if that works, we can porting Windows Mobile 6.1 to Shift, and maybe - later we can use Display drivers from HTC Touch HD
Maybe then the shift is useful
why not...
yes... count me in too... //_^
And then we could sell it to htc... hehe
Since they are incapable to give us a fully functional device, and they are not software supportive... to let us use it in higher computing speeds like ... not vista?
The vista thing is too much for the shift and you know it...
The shift is supposed to be a solution for the modern man, that has the need for a computer and a phone use simultaneously.
The shift is supposed to be a solution for us and not trouble...
I don't want to be radio waved by two devices every day... my Shift and my w810i ...
Honorably Yours,
P.S.
I 've made a small search about it's processor expandability.
And the news so far are bad... sort of...
They used a radio board that is not expendable.. at all... the processor socket is μFC-BGA663. A technology that has not been used for anything else... 0,90 nn in a parallelogram design. (not square!) As they use to.
The atoms are in a 0,45 nn technology with the μFC-BGA 478 and μFC-BGA 479 sockets...
I checked intel's site and i found that the information for the A100 and A110 "Steally" processors have only few information. AND THEY ARE NOT ON THE MAIN MENU!
They are allready passed the technology.
Why don't they make something in 0,45 nn for 663? (bigger chip more space... they could fit a quad or trio in there for crying out loud!... they have the tech to do it. They fit all ready dual cores in 478-9).
So forget about them too...
No daughterboard so far made to support another processor either...
So we could hope for a daughterboard ... but in a very small size :/
Anyway's ... if someone made this type of search and wants to share some information... i'm full ears. I'm really interested in upgrading the CPU.
Thank You.
50 US$: ok, but...
I would like to donate 50$ for this project (and I'll probably do that).
But do you really think that having a couple more of **** to "burn" should solve the problem? I mean: we're all beta-testers for new ROM's, and I read many posts of very clever people talking about daughterboards (and I really don't understand a single word of it, sorry ) . I mean: every strenght is just out there: people succeding in installing ubuntu or Xp Tablet, in changeing HDD, others waiting for new RAM to be produced, many cooking ROM's... Not to talk about software and optimization tips&tricks... What else do we need? I think: just some coordination, someone able to say "Ok, guys, we did this and we need to do that: let's try this way". Am I wrong?
So: if some of you needs his time to be paid I totally agree and I will give my contribution (I don't even want to think about any mean of "control" on the job that will be done), but if the only problem is to "beta-test" new solutions, sjust open a new thread, maybe naming it: "Do That On Your Risk"
Of course this is all IMHO
cmonex, where are you?
hehe, you all are right
normaly the best way is, to sell the shift and maybe you lose not to much money if you do that "now". Better to loose now 200-400€, as wait for semiprofessional solutions that comes maybe next half year. I buyed the Advantage X7510 befor i buyed the Shift, (better known as MDA AMEO 16GB) and they was **** too, i loosed as I resell them 400€ ;-) Then I believe in Shift, and this Device is not really better.
Best way is to buy a NET PC that is much cheaper - or if you want professional 8.9" Screen with Touchscreen (as sample) use the Fujitsu Siemens TabletPC Lifebook P1620. That is all much better to use, as an shift..
I´m really angry about HTC, I think, i have buyed most of all HTC´s that was sell in Europe, we have maybe 7000 USers with most Windows Mobile Push Services and most HTC Devices. But the quality is sometimes good, sometimes bad.
And the End of the Song: We have buyed 20000 Client Licences for Blackberry..
Sad, since 2001 I provide HTC Devices (or Operators branded HTC Devices) at the Side our customers and now I think that is the End...
I have try many other Devices from other companys then HTC, but most of them have same or related problems like HTC devices.
But for me is it not longer a problem, i have quit my job as technical responsible for that in our company last week and change to a other company - maybe then I have new Visions
howto deploy a Email Push Service for over 100000 Users
And maybe, it is not a WM Device, Not A Blackberry, maybe it is Nokia ´s Intellisync V9 Services, that works really stable on Nokia´s long powered S60 Phones.
And maybe: Nokia listen to my questions, improvements.
Maybe there is hope ;-)
Well, I think that there are two kinds of problems:
1. Software/ROM: and I just spoke of this a few posts ago.
2. Hardware: as much as you try to push Shift's functionality to the highest level, you'll always have to manage with RAM and processor... And as far as I can see, most of ROM's here published and cooked don't allow much more programs to be installed (I'm currently using Pli's ROM, and I just installed PhatNotes, then almost no more room for other things!!!). And I think that the most we try to get from our Shift, the less space we will have.
Anyway: when we bought Shift we all knew which were its limits, and more or less we accepted them. To me the only important missing SW is a web browser (PIE or Opera ). Not absolute need for GPS, and I can say I could live even without phone-on-shift.
As always IMHO
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Well, I think that there are two kinds of problems:
1. Software/ROM: and I just spoke of this a few posts ago.
2. Hardware: as much as you try to push Shift's functionality to the highest level, you'll always have to manage with RAM and processor... And as far as I can see, most of ROM's here published and cooked don't allow much more programs to be installed (I'm currently using Pli's ROM, and I just installed PhatNotes, then almost no more room for other things!!!). And I think that the most we try to get from our Shift, the less space we will have.
Anyway: when we bought Shift we all knew which were its limits, and more or less we accepted them. To me the only important missing SW is a web browser (PIE or Opera ). Not absolute need for GPS, and I can say I could live even without phone-on-shift.
As always IMHO
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I have to agree.
I bought the Shift as it was advertised, a UMPC with built in high speed wireless modem!
There is nothing wrong with people experimenting for developement to get more functionality out of it in a purely non-professional way, but as soon as people start demanding ROM's from enthusiasts (and treating them as if they get a warranty!) and complaining that the device is rubbish because it does not do something it was never marketed to do, then you know they have lost the plot.
Also, IMHO too..
The ROM of the HTC HERO is already on XDA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533808
The HD and Hero share some hardware so ...
What would be the problem when porting the Android HERO ROM to the HTC Blackstone.
Does anybody think that it will be possible to run it on the HD in the future?
No, the HW is not identical.
The fact that they have the same CPU doesn't mean that the HW is the same.
The issue can be:
1. Lack of drivers for Android platform for HD.
2. Lack of people to finalize the Andriod port on HD.
and some others.
Use search please as this question was asked a zilion times before.
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No, the HW is not identical.
The fact that they have the same CPU doesn't mean that the HW is the same.
The issue can be:
1. Lack of drivers for Android platform for HD.
2. Lack of people to finalize the Andriod port on HD.
and some others.
Use search please as this question was asked a zilion times before.
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That's why I said that they share "some"of the HW..
(I read almost all the android topics and the forum search function did not work today..)
1] This indeed seems to be a problem also in the first attempt by xmoo and others
2]Tuxhero has moved his android porting work to http://www.androidkernel.org/
I think that the most difficult part is to have at least an Android version running on HD. Any version. Afterwards will be more simple to have any android flavor on HD.
So keep the finger crossed for tuxhero.
Same specification doesn't mean they run exactly the same hardware. Display controller might be different, various controllers are different (and so are the registers), it's not as easy as people might think when it comes to porting OS to different devices. I see this as a common misconception and people usually don't (or won't) understand until they go through it (which obviously usually they don't as they prefer someone else does the things for them).
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Same specification doesn't mean they run exactly the same hardware. Display controller might be different, various controllers are different (and so are the registers), it's not as easy as people might think when it comes to porting OS to different devices. I see this as a common misconception and people usually don't (or won't) understand until they go through it (which obviously usually they don't as they prefer someone else does the things for them).
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I couldn't agree more..
I would like to be able to programme it myself, but it's an illusion to finish it before 2012 ...
I'm not really interested in Android, but the TouchFlo3D "Sense" is astonishingly amazing and i really hope to see that feature ported to the Blackstone..
The fact that you need to have the knowledge about linux kernel (plus phenomenal programming skills of course) is probably the hardest thing in porting android. Besides, blackstone isn't as affordable as other devices are, so to have people who really are committed to porting android would probably be a big bless.
There was one time when I actually thought about selling my blackstone and get G1/Magic instead..
This will be great!
Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcVdcStE9po
This will be great!
Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcVdcStE9po
dosari666 said:
I'm not really interested in Android, but the TouchFlo3D "Sense" is astonishingly amazing and i really hope to see that feature ported to the Blackstone..
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I may be wrong but I think the Sense UI is android based...
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No, the HW is not identical.
The fact that they have the same CPU doesn't mean that the HW is the same.
The issue can be:
1. Lack of drivers for Android platform for HD.
2. Lack of people to finalize the Andriod port on HD.
and some others.
Use search please as this question was asked a zilion times before.
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What are the hardware differences then? I guess that would be step one of porting... How can you write drivers or search for drivers if you do not know what your looking/programming for?
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There was one time when I actually thought about selling my blackstone and get G1/Magic instead..
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On this moment this thought is still in my head, a HTC Hero or even an Iphone.
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On this moment this thought is still in my head, a HTC Hero or even an Iphone.
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Though i fight for HTC's, last night a friend with a iphone 3gs came to me and started telling me how great it is etcetc. So i told him to make a small demonstration.
The first thing he did show me was the installer and cydia, where tons of people write apps and stuff and oh boy i was impressed.
Next thing he showed me was a app called shazam, it was a small app that could recognize every song that it could hear so i was impressed as well. ( installed a wm6 version of it on mine and didnt work nearly good as it did on iphone )
Scrolling is great, its ui is great, everything runs really smooth and i kinda miss that feeling.
Now if they do write a turn-by-turn gps app like destinator or igo, i am dumping my blackstone in like seconds.
Sorry but it feels that way
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Now if they do write a turn-by-turn gps app like destinator or igo, i am dumping my blackstone in like seconds.
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iGO will release soon their iGO My Way for iPhone.
But don't dump your backstone just yet. There are still fundamental limitations in iPhone that I couldn't live with.
Your are bound to iTunes, movies all need transcoding (iPhone lasks mass storage for USB apart from HD and for movies you need tools to convert them for iPhone), you are bound by apple accesories (like in house connectors while HD has mini USB). and if I dig more I can found many more things that are not so cool about iPhone (no ROM development like for Hd that gives you some real new things).
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Next thing he showed me was a app called shazam, it was a small app that could recognize every song that it could hear so i was impressed as well.
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Shazam MusicID is also available for WM, I have it om my MIRI 6.5 ROM and it works perfect.
You can find it on piratebay, in one of the threads, and it is also included in Dutty's ROMs.
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Shazam MusicID is also available for WM, I have it om my MIRI 6.5 ROM and it works perfect.
You can find it on piratebay, in one of the threads, and it is also included in Dutty's ROMs.
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Like i said, i installed musid id on my hd, and i had them next to the iphone trying to identify the same songs and it had a success rate of 50%
Very possibly the most useless reason to get an iPhone I have heard so far...
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Like i said, i installed musid id on my hd, and i had them next to the iphone trying to identify the same songs and it had a success rate of 50%
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Then I show you these things:
- You can ask your friend to watch a video clip on youtube and you'll be proud of your HD.( HD is high definition and larger screen, faster than Iphone, I'm sure)
- Ask your friend to take a photograph and compare
- Compare with your friend how many application he can get with Iphone?
- Try to utilize your GPS speed
- To me, HD is for high class man and Iphone is for women
- Moreover, Iphone has exclusive Multi-touch right? But you can zoom by double touch . Ask your friend how inconvenience in terms of exchanging files ( connect to cable, go to Iphone center.) How convenience when you have a bluetooth
How can you fight for HTC when you dont know what are the strengths of its??!!
I know you guys have talked about this already, but has anyone tried to load it? Maybe a derivitive of the HD2 rom for WP7? I bet anything that it would work, it would just be a little slower.....please give some feedback for this thread
i agree the tp2 deserves a try they said we couldn't overclock now look @ us
P.S also make a CDMA version for us sprint people
I'm sure someone could get it running. Nothing is impossible.
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I'm sure someone could get it running. Nothing is impossible.
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+1 to that.
The problem is the processor architecture...
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I bet that it wouldn't matter, they say the requirements are what they are, but they can operate on lower specs, just won't operate at optimum efficiency. If the HD2 and WP7 Phones are at 1ghz, its not bad that we are at 748mhz+. I bet it will work!!! I know technical aspects, but it sucks I don't know how to actually do any of it!!!! Maybe someone should come up with a bounty
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I bet that it wouldn't matter, they say the requirements are what they are, but they can operate on lower specs, just won't operate at optimum efficiency. If the HD2 and WP7 Phones are at 1ghz, its not bad that we are at 748mhz+. I bet it will work!!! I know technical aspects, but it sucks I don't know how to actually do any of it!!!! Maybe someone should come up with a bounty
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Whatever, TP2 runs a Qualcomm processor ARMv6, while Snapdragon is ARMv7.
WP7 requires ARMv7.
It's not as easy as you think, guys.
can we get it
maybe lescro could chime in
No, we can NOT get WP7 ever. It's just not possible. As Jackos said, WP7 is built on ARMv7. The TP2 has an ARMv6 chipset. The ARMv6 CPU just can't execute the code in WP7. It has nothing to due with the speed of the CPU. Just like how certain Adobe software doesn't work on old AMD/Intel CPU's because they're missing the SSE2 instruction set.
EDIT: This has been stated by Da_G many times & trust me, he knows what he's talking about. Follow Da_G on Twitter.
Mod, please close this thread.
It is possible but very difficult to do. Some has to make it ARMv6 able.
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Like others said, it was impossible to OC our TP2's, and now look!!! You're right, the WP7 on an ARMv6 core would be difficult to do, but someone can do it! It's kind depressing that everyone keeps saying "never" will we have it on the TP2. If you can create a theme from throttlelauncher that does just about everything that the WP7 itself can do, I would wager that you could modify the WP7 rom to execute off of the ARMv6 core....problem is nobody wants to spend the time to do so for free, so we should come up with a bounty.
Actually when these devs tell you that the code can not run they aren't explaining (rightfully because it might fall on deaf ears) that windows ce is closed source so changing anything would require a large amount of work if the kernel can be changed at all. Its not like the linux kernel where we can go in and change things in the source code then compile. WP7 is what it is its like saying that windows 7 can run on an arm processor yeah it probably could but you would have to change the kernel which i believe only microsoft has the ability to do. Just tough it out like the rest of us until your upgrade date. Please no more WP7 on TP2 threads
is this really a question? FIRST of all, it is impossible. Second of all, there are various themes that would be more stable than any wm7 port if there was ever a dev who had some magical touch. yeah, we can overclock. but who here can safely oc to 1g? closest i get is 768. and that gets touchy.
believe me, theres no way/reason to do this. just buy a new phone
WP7 on TP2
My only problem, which is quite a personal problem, is that I am not allowed to have a camera on my phone where I work.....so this blows because they will not make any more cameraless phones. So anything to make my TP2 any better, I'm all game. Besides, I absolutely HATE on screen keyboards, no matter how accurate they are. Again, just a personal problem.
You're job will end up changing that rule. They have too, because cameraless cell are sadly a thing of the past. I don't know a single person who doesn't have a camera on their cell. As for the hardware KB, check out the HTC 7 Pro. It's a 1Ghz Snapdragon WP7 version of the TP2.
Somethings are impossible.... Overclocking is one thing but executing code compiled for a different CPU is NOT the same thing!
As others have pointed out, it's ARM v6 vs V7 and it's not a code issue - its a microcode issue - the v6 does not have the same instruction set so the code cannot execute.
Short of M$ recompiling the code (not very likely), releasing the source (even less likely) or writing a V6 interpreting shell (can you say SLOW) it ain't going to happen.
Deal with it and wait till your contract is over and get a new phone when you can
drkfngthdragnlrd said:
You're job will end up changing that rule. They have too, because cameraless cell are sadly a thing of the past. I don't know a single person who doesn't have a camera on their cell. As for the hardware KB, check out the HTC 7 Pro. It's a 1Ghz Snapdragon WP7 version of the TP2.
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No, I am 100% Certain my work will not change that rule. They will prohibit cell phones altogether before allowing a camera. But I will check out the HTC 7 pro
if you go to wp7 forum theres alot of problems with that phone
...like any phone
but there are alot of themes for our phone
like lesscrco wp7
BTW. Why would anyone need WP7 on TP2? Imho it's good enough with WM6.5.
WP7 would only decrease the functionality and cause problems like battery life or performance.
Emulator
Emulation is possible, ask the people who wrote BOCHS or Pear PC.
However, it's absolutely not practical to go down this route. It would require an amazing amount of work for what would be a very slow WP7 device with no battery life.
The time and money spent on a project like this would be better put to improving WM6 or Android.
1milenia said:
if you go to wp7 forum theres alot of problems with that phone
...like any phone
but there are alot of themes for our phone
like lesscrco wp7
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I bought my wife the Samsung Focus and we have absolutely no problems with it. WP7 is perfect just left stock. WP7 is probably the best PPC OS out there now.