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Hello, my name is Jesse W. and I am a flash-a-holic. Welcome to this meeting of Flash-A-Holics Anonymous.
Flash-A-Holics Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience, strength, and hope with each other that they may solve their common problem and help others to recover. The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop flashing and become electronically sober.
It all started with me back several years ago when I purchased my first Windows Mobile PDA from Cingular, which was the model 8525/TyTN. I was introduced to xda-developers and saw many people were flashing custom roms. I was too afraid then to flash a custom rom, so instead took the safer road and flashed a Cingular rom. I soon grew tired of this pda because more than one email account would render the device useless and it locked up constantly. I did, however, sit in front of my computer screen in cold sweats, completely drunk with anticipation and fear of flashing a custom rom. My next pda was an iphone, and soon grew tired of its inflexability and inability to customize, so I sold it and purchased a Polaris. Soon after, while reading through the list of custom roms available, I took the plunge and downloaded one. I was so drunk with excitement, I honestly don't even remember which one it was. My hands were shaking violently as I scrolled through the instructions. I installed Olinex's HardSPL and it worked!!! I was ecstatic!! I almost fainted as I slowly plugged the usb cable into the phone and rebooted it into HSPL. I must have blacked out because I can't remember the actual flashing procedure. The next thing I remember is configuring multiple working email accounts to my ultimate delight! Months later, I tripped over a udK rom message and read how everyone was flocking to his roms, so I tried one. And it wasn't much longer and he had another updated rom out. Drat! I had to flash again... Then again... Each time the feeling of elation a little less than before, the fear not as pressing, the anticipation not as overwhelming. Then he released a rom with Manila 2D. I was one of the rats caught behind the Pied Piper being lead on a journey with no control of my own. I was hooked. I had become an addict. I had become.... a flash-a-holic. I changed to the Diamond series roms by itje soon after because I liked the look and feel of the device interface. Then I bought an HD. Not because I wanted to... because I **HAD** to. Those of you who are true flash-a-holics will understand. If you're sitting there scratching your head, it's not too late for you, you still have a way out. Seeing a custom rom by Dutty, I couldn't resist. I flashed the rom. I've flashed about every rom that comes out by Dutty now, because I can't stand not to have the latest, greatest rom on my precious hd. Just about every weekend I flash. I think I flash in my sleep... v1.9 extreme is the latest, and I just finished flashing it an hour ago and just now got all my settings back to the way I like them.
If there are any other true flash-a-holics out there, please feel free to share.
** Sorry this got so long, I just couldn't resist heheheee.....
Jesse
Only every weekend? I flash mine sometimes 2 to 3 times a day, compound that with I have 2 HD's and thats 4-6 times a day.
OK I will have to admit it slowed down a bit over the last few days but I'm sure it will pick back up soon.
I love to test new ROM's and love to flash my HD
bobsbbq said:
Only every weekend? I flash mine sometimes 2 to 3 times a day, compound that with I have 2 HD's and thats 4-6 times a day.
OK I will have to admit it slowed down a bit over the last few days but I'm sure it will pick back up soon.
I love to test new ROM's and love to flash my HD
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You're Super-Flash-A-Holic ... Would You please allow me to follow...
Take care, bro
KC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412623
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439528
I never thought i would be an addict, that was only for the weak....
My name is Mike and i have a problem....
For me it started with my first Winmo phone, the JASJAR.. I tried to modify it into something more useable and cant even remember which rom i flashed it with..
But as soon as i got the tytn 2 it all went horribly wrong!! I cant remember the first rom i put on it, but then everyone was using the hyperdragon roms, so i changed to that.. Was so excited at how much more use there was in my phone.. Had just got all the progs and settings back to how i wanted them, and a new rom was available!!!
I hesitated about going through all the procedure again for all of about 5 seconds, then flashed the new one, and by the time it was all back to running the way i like there was another new rom!!!
This went on for a couple of weeks until i had to go on holiday to prevent madness setting in...and how painful that was you will never know... a top quality hotel in Turkey with a very slow wirelss connection that would cut out after you had used 1Meg of bandwidth....
Now I have the HD and my symptoms are slowly clearing up due to the current climate of disillusion, but I have no doubt i will be flashing away to my hearts content in a few weeks.....
I would like to thank all my support group for all the help that is given freely and without hesitation, and i might have to look at training to be a chef to slow me down.... or will that make me worse??
Problem; I ain't got no stupid problem. So I flash my PDA a few times a d-d-day...
It all started in the 90's with computers: First I flashed my motherboard BIOS, seeing some nice performance enhancements.
Next thing you know, I'm flashing my vidio card, modem, CD player; I even flashed the home entertainment DVD player.
I would have never been noticed, but I just had to flash the wife's sewing machine....bricked it!
All these years later, here I am hanging out with a bunch of losers......I can quit anytime I want.....ANYTIME!!!
LOL
Hello,
i'm do0fusz, a dofus to the knowhow of flashing, buth still a addict..
Just yesterday i went from 1.8 dutty to L26, to the Lite02282009.
this mornin to dutty 1.9..
i neeed mooooree..
annyone got a good hit for me :|
getting dry here!
* flashed my mother in law...
sewed me
i flash my device two times a day
couldnt choose what to preffer
davideuck for its speed
or duttys for its layout
Don't forget, flashing people is crossing the line...
I don't think I have a problem with flashing. I have limitted myself to flashing inanimate objects at least. I find that the changes which come after flashing sentient objects (people) tend to be undesirable. I flashed some fruit, and some trees (out of scientific curiousity). I could swear they're more vibrant than before, but that might just be some sort of placebo effect... Flashing people on the other hand... well... It just makes them angry. I believe there are too many male flashers and not enough female flashers, and this is what makes most people angry...
Oh... you're talking about flashing roms onto phones... nevermind.
Caid.
i need help!
i flashed a parrot, he starred laughing at me :|
I Cant Resist
Yes I to am a FLash-A-holic...I flash roms, radios everything. I can't seem to stop. It's like my diamond is calling me, I even dream of flashing. Right now i'm waiting for the ultimate "flash" hit....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486471. Unfortunately I dont have an HD yet, but you can only imagine what would happen once IF I got one. lol...Do I need help NOOOOOO it's freedom. I love seeing people on the bus with the diamond and stock rom inching over to look at my custom roms..I've even flashed on the bus "internal method" just out of the need LMAO!!!
welcom brother,
verry brave of you to admid..
hahha
do0fusz said:
welcom brother,
verry brave of you to admid..
hahha
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lol yes i had thought i was the only one..but now I know it seems to be a world wide epidemic lol
Another Flasher-a-Holic and hunter-A-Holic here!
Sad state of affairs our lives have become. HATE YOU HTC! Every day, looking for roms, better software updates, new realsess, news on the future..... love it really... i think or just addicted to making this HD as powerful as possible with the most productive software EVER!!!!
Sound fricking CRAZZZY
Does this journey ever end people we will get back to the old ways of life.... do we want to???
The CRACK is good JA?
Hello my name is Vizag Dude.
Every one else in the room: Hello Vizag Dude....
I am flash-a-holic as well. I am so addicted, that I stopped working. I go to work and even before I start my OutLook, I open my IE browser and pick the first option in my Favs, Blackston: XDA-Developers section.
I am sure if the Admin would check the amount of time I am spending in this forum, he would go crazy. I login from my train via my HD to see if any new ROMs have been released. I go home and putting my 1 year old to sleep, with one hand, I would be browsing this section to see if there were any new posts or new threads. After my polaris, when I got my HD, I told myself, this is an expensive device and i will not flash much. But I could not resist, I think, the First cooked ROM I flashed for my device was Ponosha's... and thats it, from then on... I keep flashing every day... sometimes 2 or 3 times a day.
Thank you all for your support.
Hardqs said:
Another Flasher-a-Holic and hunter-A-Holic here!
Sad state of affairs our lives have become. HATE YOU HTC! Every day, looking for roms, better software updates, new realsess, news on the future..... love it really... i think or just addicted to making this HD as powerful as possible with the most productive software EVER!!!!
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watching movies, ingnoring the misses, and then...
the magic happends..
THE BRICK RINGSS TOOO!!!!!!
( all the tweaking for nothing,,..
mother in law still reaches me.. )
do you remember the good old day's of being happy pushing a ringtone on a mobile the size of mexico?
hi all,
my name is bl1nky,
i'm a little new around here. i've had my touch hd since december. my first winmo phone. and have to say i too have fallen, there's not a day passes when i'm not hoping there's a new rom to try when i get home. i don't think this will pass. am i doing some thing wrong ? i loved my dear nokia's in the past, but this is so much more....
bl1nky
Hi
I'm Hellonasty and i flash my HD more and less 10 times a day!!!
I'm crazy? lool
I believe I may be a Flash-A-Holic too if only because I'm developing my own custom ROMs. ROM R&D takes A LOT of flashing.
Hello my name is Chris, and I am a flash-a-holic !!!
Touch HD & Raphael constant flashing new ROM's just to see how they work and look, i never knew it could be so addictive !!! what with this forum and facebook i will never need to go outside LOL !!!
Love this place and the friends here...
Chris
After over one year of use I just wanted to write few lines about my impression of this PDA.
I travel a lot and I thought that a PDA could be helpful to keep in touch and do the IT chores while on the go. I was very wrong and I regret having bought the damn thing. The device tries to do many things but none of them well. In retrospective it sounded too good to be true.
At the beginning I did make a point of using it to its best potential but after a while I got so tired and annoyed with it that I have used it mostly like just any other phone.
I thought I would give myself some time to get accustomed to the complexity of the device before jumping to conclusions.
Over one year later and I still find it incredibly cumbersome and totally user unfriendly. The guys at HTC should go to Apple to get a crush course in making something user friendly.
Here are just a few things. The list is way longer but I would have to go back and try most functions to recall all the flaws.
- It's super slow. I am no super fast teenage geek but I am always waiting for the stupid thing to react to any command I give. It is very annoying and it's like stepping back to the time of the 286 PCs. The speed is archaic.
- The buttons controls are very difficult to feel with the touch and are very cumbersome to operate. Especially the side ones. I am sure that even blind people would have problems using them.
- Windows mobile is as bad as Microsoft gets. It's slow, counter intuitive, user unfriendly. Early Vista at the power of ten!
- Window media player is a joke. I have been using the PDA to listen to music in the car and it's a miracle I have not crashed while trying to select some music yet.
- The touch screen is also very bad and difficult to use. A lot of the commands are way too small for a man's finger. It is very difficult to select something on first attempt.
- To open a running program is difficult. One has to press the top right menu and than select what is running by touch only. The bar is about 4 mm high and it's very difficult to select using one hand. One cannot select by using the scroll bar and button.
- During phone calls the screen goes out quickly and to get it back one has to look for the hidden button on the side, very bad.
- Voice recognition sucks. Since the controls are so bad I now use the voice recognition most times. It's rare that the damn machine get it right on first attempt. Repeating the name twice helps but not always. I end up having to raise the tone as if I was yelling. Very embarrassing in public.
- The GPS take a long time to get the satellites even when the data has been updated.
- Active sync is a disaster. The guy that design it should be shot. I have given up on it altogether. I had to buy small software to access the data in the PDA and memory card.
Active sync could just not do the most elementary operation in a simple and straightforward way.
- The booting upon starting is the longest I have ever seen. Switching it off is also a chore
The list goes on but I am getting annoyed just to think about it all. This is the first and last product I’ll ever buy from HTC. Unless you are a geek that gets pleasure messing with IT devices do not buy it. Its use will take an unhealthy amount of your time. It will not help your life, it will waste a lot of your time and annoy you in the process.
Stay away from it!
My phone works perfect, it is a delight to use, does everything you mentioned above, great to reasonably well. It is fast, user friendly and I can't wait until I can upgrade to the TP II
My advice to you, since you are clueless, get the ipod that makes phone calls, it is built and over marketed especially for clueless people.
Agreed with denco7,
My HTC Kaiser (TyTn II) is also working fine. It is a great QVGA 2.8" phone!
ActiveSync works and simply works, I have never got any issue like you described.
GPS works, although TT7 is slower than TT6, but thats TT problem, not the phone.
I found Opera Mini works briliant with the D-Pad, which is much better than D-Pad-less phone. You know, press button to zoom, back to unzoom, scroll with D-Pad ... all one handed.
Screen goes out during call? Get a clue You knew this website, it should be the best resource.
My suggestion, dont use PDA Because it might be too complicated for you.
I like my TyTN II.
Maybe some of the things you think missed, you could configure them another way to get the most of the device. I think I'll never finish to get more and more from it. And I exhausted a P4350 before changing to the Kaiser.
denco7 said:
My phone works perfect, it is a delight to use, does everything you mentioned above, great to reasonably well. It is fast, user friendly and I can't wait until I can upgrade to the TP II
My advice to you, since you are clueless, get the ipod that makes phone calls, it is built and over marketed especially for clueless people.
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The PDA was also used by a friend of mine who is a blackberry user and talented software developer with many years of experience in IT. He did notice the same things and at times the thing did drive him crazy too.
My friend is also a guy that has switched to Linux long time ago. I have been too lazy and suffered in silence with MS crap but hopefully I will find the time to invest in changing for the better.
My friend impressions made me realize that I am not clueless as you say. In fact being a marine engineer I have dealt with equipment of all sorts for many years.
The PDA is designed by geeks for geeks. It is not a product for normal people. Anybody that buys this device has to spend many, many hours tying to sort it out and make it work better. I did that at the beginning and downloaded many fixes and upgrades. The very existance of this website and the number of people that use it is an indication that this PDA is not a product you switch on and just use. Very far from it.
I think you are like many people that after spending all that money don't want to admit that they got a lemon. The fact that you want to upgrade is a clear indication that you are not that satisfied with the gadget.
Just pick it up and slide the keyboard slightly. It takes 4.8 sec for the display to go from vertical to horizontal and back. If that is fast then you must be very slow.
Cheers
Yeah I also suggest you get an iphone. It's for people just like you.
No customization and power-user options, but your grandma can figure out the basic PDA functions.
TytnII has been great for me.
This is a negative and boring thread from the op! With some effort you can do a lot with the tytn2 as well as the tytn1! Very good devices!
I very much enjoy my Kaiser. I had some of the problems the OP had when I was running the AT&T stock ROM (with bloatware), but all that changed when I started using custom ROMs. The Kaiser is actually a very capable device, the only reason it underperforms is because it's hardware isn't fully taken advantage of (but even that's improving now). Once I flash a ROM and spend a whole 10 minutes customizing the device to how I like it, it runs like a dream.
OP: As the others have said in this thread, if you aren't willing to tweak the device, and customize the living crap out of it in order to get a faster Kaiser, maybe a feature phone or iPhone would be more suitable for you.
Dave
PS: (I have a 286, and it runs fine!)
I have a tytn, tytnII, titan, touch pro and a fuze. I must admit that every one of these devices were less than spectacular in the as-shipped form from the service provider. Thats why I found this site so I could make them all perform up to their hype.
Every one of them, thanks to the wonderful developers here, will outperform an iphown now. I have had very little problems like the OP described that were not simply fixed by changing a setting here or there. I like my tilt better than any of the others I have had (except the fuze.)
My 8525 (TyTn) works great and it has less power than the TyTnII. You can not get the most out of the phone unless you get rid of the stock OS. That's why XDA Devs rocks. Once the stock OS is gone - the phones rock!
mikechannon said:
This is the Kaiser forum. A forum dedicated to supporting Kaiser owners and providing answers to specific problems.
I'm sure you can see that this is not a supportive thread for TyTn II owners.
I'm not actually sure that expressing views about strongly disliking HTC and WM is a wise idea on a website dedicated to both those things.
However, and lest I be accused of wielding evil Moderator censorship powers, I will move this thread to off-topic. There it will take up its place accumulating wise and sensible contributions to the debate.
Mike
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Hi Mike,
It's not about being supportive or not. It's about giving a broad range of perspective so if tomorrow somebody wants to buy the device they can search for information and have a better idea of what they are getting into.
Unfortunately at the time I bought mine the information available was somehow biased towards people who think that is ok to spend 750 $ for a gadget that right away needs all sorts of non OEM twicks and upgrades to perform close to its marketing claims.
In any sector or product if one buys at the very top end of the price range should expect to end up with something that works well right away.
The TY TN II does not. HTC is a company with great potential but it should take a lot longer before releasing a product such this.
I belive that censorship does not help the people behind this site that are happy with the product either. My post is not off topic. They are first hand comments on the device from somebody that owns one, just like anybody else here.
Because of lack of unbiased information many people like me or even less prepared to mess with the device will buy it and up here nagging everyone else for help. Even for the silliest problems.
Let's be clear. This is a very niche product, HTC marketing pitch is misleading. It is not a piece of consumer goods suitable for the majority of people. It has to become a pet project for the buyer otherwise will not delivery to it's full potential.
I would suggest you put this thread in a very accessible location.
I am sorry if have hurt any TY TN II lovers
I suspect that a lot of people here see the device like their own baby.
Cheers
gogol said:
Agreed with denco7,
My HTC Kaiser (TyTn II) is also working fine. It is a great QVGA 2.8" phone!
ActiveSync works and simply works, I have never got any issue like you described.
GPS works, although TT7 is slower than TT6, but thats TT problem, not the phone.
I found Opera Mini works briliant with the D-Pad, which is much better than D-Pad-less phone. You know, press button to zoom, back to unzoom, scroll with D-Pad ... all one handed.
Screen goes out during call? Get a clue You knew this website, it should be the best resource.
My suggestion, dont use PDA Because it might be too complicated for you.
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I don't want to get this thread to go on and on. The purpose of my post is to just offer an alternative perspective on the PDA. Without it, anybody that stumbles on this site may be lead to think that it is a great PDA. Indeed it is for people that are willing, knowledgeable and happy to mess with it. I don't think that the majority of people fit that category.
I believe that most people when they spend top dollars expect to buy a piece of equipment that works at its best right out of the box. After all PDAs and many other gadgets should make life easier not more complicated. That is something often forgotten.
Your appreciation of Active Sync sounds very odd to my engineering mind always appreciating things that work in a simple and logic manner. I'll comment on this one because is one of my "favorite" about the device and MS.
How can Active Sync be good if you have to install it in every computer you have to exchange data with (actually you can only install it on 2 PCs only!!). That to me is totally counter intuitive, user unfriendly and simply stupid. I should be able to roam the world and exchange data with any PC and Macs by just plugging in without having to install anything. That's what happens with most other gadgets cameras etc. How is it possible that a 750 $ device cannot do such elementary thing out of the box. It's simply unbelievable and as I said very odd to see that there are so many people that are totally fine with it and actually like the feature.
The TY TN II and any top end PDAs also cater to people like me that travel extensively and to different countries. How such elementary need to exchange data in a simple way can be overseen???
If I had know that such basic feature was not available I would never have bought the thing. The problem is that this any many other points about the device are some kind of dirty secrets that are not been told and were not available when I was about to buy the device.
Luckily I found Softick Card Export and solved the problem of accessing the PDA with any computer as if it was an external hard drive. I recommend it.
But again, after I spent 750 $ I should not have to buy and install non OEM software to download a file to a friend computer.
Come on guys, MS does not even pay you! You are paying them!
mikechannon said:
Well yes in the interests of allowing different points of view, the thread has been kept, we are all entitled to a reasoned point of view.
However IMHO it is off-topic in the sense that keeping it in the TyTn II forum which is specifically to provide help for those who already have a TyTn II would be inappropriate. I did consider the General forum, but againthat is for those who already own an HTC phone and are seeking support perhaps for Windows Mobile issues.
So by elimination if nothing else "off-topic" was the choice. Those searching the likes of Google will still find it regardless of the forum it's in.
I still have my doubts that this is appropriate as a forum to choose for such a review/feedback because it can encourage flaming type posts. I'm sure you know what I mean - would you go to a Rolls Royce owners site to express your views about why they are not good cars? Maybe you would, but I think it would be better to choose a site that reviews different brands, rather than telling folk who already own the product that you think what they have is no good. I doubt folk trying to choose a product would consider a dedicated site to be an unbiased place to gather reliable reviews.
Mike
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Mike,
I happen to be one of those Rolls Royce owners (I wish!) that's why I think I should have a say on this site. My views are counter current that's all. I don't feel undermined here despite being a totally "visible minority". If people were to get inflamed about it then there is always the almighty moderator that should straighten things out.
I still think my post does not belong to the off topic section because I think the view of somebody like myself can be beneficial to the majority here. I know that this could be difficult to acknowledge for somebody.
On the wake of the recent purchase and proud of my shiny new device, in the first 6 months of ownership of the Ty TN II I was like most other people here, reading, downloading, twicking. After a while I realized that what I was doing was going against the very reason I bought the device in the first place which was make my life easier and make me save time.
At that point and tired of the constant work that the machine demanded I gave up on it. I bought a new laptop and used the PDA like a phone and navigator only.
If I had found posts like mine before I would have made my natural progression earlier and I would have saved myself a lot of time and headaches.
I am sure there are other people in that position and they should be able to benefit from opinions like mine without having to Google them. To the hard core PDArers it should make no difference. I understand there is a pleasure in molding a machine to you own specification. I respect that; years ago I would have kept on doing it.
I hope you understand my plea and thanks for your work. I and many others did benefit from this great site.
Unfortunately I don't think that I can ethically contribute to the HTC or MS cause in a positive way. The fact that they created the need for a site like this is totally unacceptable.
I believe that it is wrong to offer volunteer work to greedy corporations that totally don't give a damn about their customer base. HTC and MS are clear examples.
I wish the talented work of people like XDA-developers will go towards developing software and service for no profit organizations and not to patch up the shortcomings and disservice of these corporations.
Bill Gates has become a philanthropist to wash his sins. I hope his example will be followed by all the other big fish in the corporate world.
Cheers
olliric said:
I don't want to get this thread to go on and on. The purpose of my post is to just offer an alternative perspective on the PDA. Without it, anybody that stumbles on this site may be lead to think that it is a great PDA. Indeed it is for people that are willing, knowledgeable and happy to mess with it. I don't think that the majority of people fit that category.
I believe that most people when they spend top dollars expect to buy a piece of equipment that works at its best right out of the box. After all PDAs and many other gadgets should make life easier not more complicated. That is something often forgotten.
Your appreciation of Active Sync sounds very odd to my engineering mind always appreciating things that work in a simple and logic manner. I'll comment on this one because is one of my "favorite" about the device and MS.
How can Active Sync be good if you have to install it in every computer you have to exchange data with (actually you can only install it on 2 PCs only!!). That to me is totally counter intuitive, user unfriendly and simply stupid. I should be able to roam the world and exchange data with any PC and Macs by just plugging in without having to install anything. That's what happens with most other gadgets cameras etc. How is it possible that a 750 $ device cannot do such elementary thing out of the box. It's simply unbelievable and as I said very odd to see that there are so many people that are totally fine with it and actually like the feature.
The TY TN II and any top end PDAs also cater to people like me that travel extensively and to different countries. How such elementary need to exchange data in a simple way can be overseen???
If I had know that such basic feature was not available I would never have bought the thing. The problem is that this any many other points about the device are some kind of dirty secrets that are not been told and were not available when I was about to buy the device.
Luckily I found Softick Card Export and solved the problem of accessing the PDA with any computer as if it was an external hard drive. I recommend it.
But again, after I spent 750 $ I should not have to buy and install non OEM software to download a file to a friend computer.
Come on guys, MS does not even pay you! You are paying them!
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So, you're saying that with any other phone you can just connect it to a PC and transfer all the data on the fly? Well, with nokias you can't, you have to install the huge nokia pc suite. At least active sync is only a few megs, so even with a slow connection you can still get it fast. And, i still think active sync is the best or at least the simplest way to synchronize contacts / appointments / notes and emails.
If you want to exchange files i would advice to forget active sync, use a micro sd card reader, it's much simpler and faster.
About your first post, i understand your frustration, but everyone here will tell you, including me, that any windows mobile device is way more powerfull than any nokia, iphone or blackberry. But even with those you still have to know how to use them.
jaugusto said:
So, you're saying that with any other phone you can just connect it to a PC and transfer all the data on the fly? Well, with nokias you can't, you have to install the huge nokia pc suite. At least active sync is only a few megs, so even with a slow connection you can still get it fast. And, i still think active sync is the best or at least the simplest way to synchronize contacts / appointments / notes and emails.
If you want to exchange files i would advice to forget active sync, use a micro sd card reader, it's much simpler and faster.
About your first post, i understand your frustration, but everyone here will tell you, including me, that any windows mobile device is way more powerfull than any nokia, iphone or blackberry. But even with those you still have to know how to use them.
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In this day and age am I too demanding to expect to be able to read and exchange data with my PDA and any computer? The fact that the very little Softick card export software does it very easily shows that I am not asking much. There are no technological hurdles whatsoever. Why having to complicate things, switching off the device, pulling cards on and off, maybe damaging something in the process.
It is one of the features I needed right away and I don't think I am alone there. It should not take a great deal of imagination or creativity to figure this out. What are the HTC or MS designers been thinking?
I just don't see any good reasons for the lack of such basic features. The only reason I see is corporate greed that calls for gadgets and software that don't quite work so people keep on buying new ones.
We are a bunch of consumer cows being milked, I am afraid that's the sad reality.
The fact the the potential of a MS based PDA is greater than the competition does not make me feel any better. However, thanks for trying to help and for the kind words
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In this day and age am I too demanding to expect to be able to read and exchange data with my PDA and any computer? The fact that the very little Softick card export software does it very easily shows that I am not asking much. There are no technological hurdles whatsoever. Why having to complicate things, switching off the device, pulling cards on and off, maybe damaging something in the process.
It is one of the features I needed right away and I don't think I am alone there. It should not take a great deal of imagination or creativity to figure this out. What are the HTC or MS designers been thinking?
I just don't see any good reasons for the lack of such basic features. The only reason I see is corporate greed that calls for gadgets and software that don't quite work so people keep on buying new ones.
We are a bunch of consumer cows being milked, I am afraid that's the sad reality.
The fact the the potential of a MS based PDA is greater than the competition does not make me feel any better. However, thanks for trying to help and for the kind words
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I prefer to think that technology is being developed, rather than big companies are just "milking us". Every new product is an evolution from something done before, not only with technology, but with everything manufactured in the capitalist markets we live in.
Basically, i think we have two choices: ware out our equipment untill we really need a new one (in case of a mobile phone for me i would say that it's about 3 years), or sell our semi-new equipment and buy a new one every year or so. I usually choose the first one, but i'm not always sure that it is the cheapest.
About speed, I know that the tytn II's are far from being the best phone HTC made, heck, my old magician (qtek s110) was way faster. But it didn't have to deal with gps, wifi, 3G, HSDPA, hardware keyboard, etc. They're only three years apart from each other, and look at the differences!
I actually agree with you that the kaiser is slow for a 2007 PDA, but it can do a lot. So, like everyone else in this forum, i've been reading, and trying, and failing, and trying again. The best Rom i've tried is shifu's v8, i do like it a lot. And the advantage of WM is that you can really do everything you want to change the look and the way you interact with your phone, and there are thousands of programs to do whatever you need your phone to do.
There's so many software out there, that it is hard to get to the best one for you. Some prefer SPB Mobile Shell3, i prefer Manila 2D. There's also the new Titanium in WM 6.5, PointUI, Throttle Launcher.... I compare this situation to the photography industry: there are hundreds of camera models, most of them give very similar image quality for the same price, but if you visit photography forums you'll find people that just can't get used to a certain model of a certain brand, and normally for reasons you wouldn't even think of.
That doesn't turn that model into a lemon, but usually makes it more special to the ones that actually like it.
So, my question is, is there any phone on the market that works like a simple usb pen? Does the iphone do that? Blackberrys? And you could use bluetooth to transfer data, have you tried that?
Just trying to help, as i don't consider myself a geek, but i do prefer windows mobile over symbian.
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So, my question is, is there any phone on the market that works like a simple usb pen? Does the iphone do that? Blackberrys? And you could use bluetooth to transfer data, have you tried that?
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Actually yes the BBs do USB File transfer when plugged into a PC with nothing extra installed. You get prompted on the device to enable Mass Storage Mode.
jaugusto said:
I prefer to think that technology is being developed, rather than big companies are just "milking us". Every new product is an evolution from something done before, not only with technology, but with everything manufactured in the capitalist markets we live in.
Basically, i think we have two choices: ware out our equipment untill we really need a new one (in case of a mobile phone for me i would say that it's about 3 years), or sell our semi-new equipment and buy a new one every year or so. I usually choose the first one, but i'm not always sure that it is the cheapest.
About speed, I know that the tytn II's are far from being the best phone HTC made, heck, my old magician (qtek s110) was way faster. But it didn't have to deal with gps, wifi, 3G, HSDPA, hardware keyboard, etc. They're only three years apart from each other, and look at the differences!
I actually agree with you that the kaiser is slow for a 2007 PDA, but it can do a lot. So, like everyone else in this forum, i've been reading, and trying, and failing, and trying again. The best Rom i've tried is shifu's v8, i do like it a lot. And the advantage of WM is that you can really do everything you want to change the look and the way you interact with your phone, and there are thousands of programs to do whatever you need your phone to do.
There's so many software out there, that it is hard to get to the best one for you. Some prefer SPB Mobile Shell3, i prefer Manila 2D. There's also the new Titanium in WM 6.5, PointUI, Throttle Launcher.... I compare this situation to the photography industry: there are hundreds of camera models, most of them give very similar image quality for the same price, but if you visit photography forums you'll find people that just can't get used to a certain model of a certain brand, and normally for reasons you wouldn't even think of.
That doesn't turn that model into a lemon, but usually makes it more special to the ones that actually like it.
So, my question is, is there any phone on the market that works like a simple usb pen? Does the iphone do that? Blackberrys? And you could use bluetooth to transfer data, have you tried that?
Just trying to help, as i don't consider myself a geek, but i do prefer windows mobile over symbian.
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I think corporations do plan to make every gadget quickly outdated. Hardware and software companies help each other in that regard. Software is designed to require more and more computing power even though is often not necessary. We could be a lot farther ahead after 20 years of consumer computers. MS is probably the main cause of this troubled development and we are still stuck with it. Window mobile may be better than others but is still very far from being good. That was also the idea of a MS project manager friend of mine who eventually left Seattle and MS. I remember venting my frustration with him and he had no excuse to offer.
I did do ROM upgrades early on but then I had to remove them after developing other problems. If one day I run into somebody that will do it for me I may give them another try. I just had it with this PDA I don't to waste anymore time.
I have a lot of other things in my life and I just don't want to spend time on something that should save me time. It just does not make any sense to me.
When this PDA will crap out I'll be very careful of what I may buy. I think I have learned the lesson. The only thing that I have appreciated is the navigator which is neither HTC or MS. I travel a lot so I keep the bastard only for that. I have to bear the bulk and weight of it for navigation and the occasional email.
I don't know if there are PDAs that can be used like a USB pen. I really hope so. It is such a simple thing, if there aren't any then it's really bad out there.
Thanks for your help
Cheers
I agree with everything you posted originally. Although, it's not HTC's fault as much as it is Microsoft's. I happen to love the G1
I've had a tilt for a year now and, while flashing ROMs does make it bearable, Windows Mobile just sucks in general imo.
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I agree with everything you posted originally. Although, it's not HTC's fault as much as it is Microsoft's. I happen to love the G1
I've had a tilt for a year now and, while flashing ROMs does make it bearable, Windows Mobile just sucks in general imo.
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Great to hear that I am not the only unhappy here. Actually I believe there are a lot more but they don't want to admit it.
So you guys de-lurk yourself and get it off your chest. You'll feel better. After all we just bought the PDA, we did not do anything terrible. There wasn't much choice anyway. If I made it or the OS then I would feel really bad about myself.
Cheers
Hello, i am a WM user since my qtek s200, and that is a way back, i love WM phones, i had over 6 WM devices and now i had a contract renewal and i got myself an iphone 3gs. I am a iphone hater -or maybe was-, and i do have the device for 4 days now. To my suprise the iphone is really good, really fast, and now that has turn by turn navigation its really usable. Fluent graphics, really powerful applications, and really really good support.
I thought i would never say this, but i am selling both my HD's, and its gonna take me a while to get back to WM devices.
Flame as you guys want, i just wanted to give my 2 cents on the thing thats happening.
I went the other way. Had enough of the low-res toy that is the Iphone, with Apple constantly blocking users from doing what they want.
My condolences
Well - as always it depends on what you want from your device... If you are satisfied with the abilities apple lets you use - go for the iphone. If you want a device you can customize in every way you want - go for a WM-device. And I have to agree with arfster: The resolution on the iphone is a disgrace! I'm definitely not willing to go to anything below VGA after having a WVGA device!
But I'm happy as long as your happy with the iphone!
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My condolences
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Nice one!
I used to own an iPod touch (Iphone without the phone) and just found it to gimmicky. Sooner or later you will get bored of useless apps & games and come running back
Anyway have fun with your iPhone! I certainly would like to have one for 12 months +!
Ben.
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Hello, i am a WM user since my qtek s200, and that is a way back, i love WM phones, i had over 6 WM devices and now i had a contract renewal and i got myself an iphone 3gs. I am a iphone hater -or maybe was-, and i do have the device for 4 days now. To my suprise the iphone is really good, really fast, and now that has turn by turn navigation its really usable. Fluent graphics, really powerful applications, and really really good support.
I thought i would never say this, but i am selling both my HD's, and its gonna take me a while to get back to WM devices.
Flame as you guys want, i just wanted to give my 2 cents on the thing thats happening.
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Congratuations.
I've seen enough of what it can do to know that you're making the right move. Once jailbroken, I've seen how customizable it is, perhaps even more customizable than winmo phone. Everytime I see her, the phone looks different. She was having a HTC Hero look just the other day, and before that it looked like a Palm Pre. I've seen my cousin's iPhone and played with it, and it is truly amazing and awesome. Fantastic application functionalities and choices. Fantastic speed and smoothness. Fantastic for internet on the go. Fantastic media device.
I'm half way there in my saving to buy a second hand 3GS.
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Congratuations.
I've seen enough of what it can do to know that you're making the right move. Once jailbroken, I've seen how customizable it is, perhaps even more customizable than winmo phone. Everytime I see her, the phone looks different. She was having a HTC Hero look just the other day, and before that it looked like a Palm Pre. I've seen my cousin's iPhone and played with it, and it is truly amazing and awesome. Fantastic application functionalities and choices. Fantastic speed and smoothness. Fantastic for internet on the go. Fantastic media device.
I'm half way there in my saving to buy a second hand 3GS.
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What stuff from HTC Hero or Palm Pre did you actually see? Are you certain that it is customizable. Because all I can see is the same old home screen with an HTC Hero Wallpaper.
Yes you now have turn by turn navigation but just see what happens when you take a phone call. On my Diamond TomTom just continued working and I could chat away to my heart's content. The iPhone will terminate the satnav application to tale the call. The iPhone is very, very shiny but has some serious restrictions - not to mention having to jailbreak to get away from the control freakery that is Apple.
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theres my thoughts
kidding but in all seriousness, and im sure we remember the other conversations iphone is for ppl and winmo is for others
it depends on what ur needs are from the deivice
What is it about people that they feel the need to come on a Windows Mobile forum to start a new thread to announce that they just got a new iPhone ?
Can't they just ressurrect one of the other 1000 threads that were started everytime Apple passes gas. ?
I have five Macs currently, am typing this on a Mac, my first PDA was an Apple Newton. I have been an Apple fanboy for 30yrs. And am on my second iPhone.
I also love my Kaiser. Now when I got my new 3Gs last month, my first thought wasn't to rush right over to XDA to start a new thread to announce that I had gotten a new iPhone, why is that everyone elses first thought ?
Can we just add all the " I just got a new iPhone " threads to the AS team's list of duties ?
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What is it about people that they feel the need to come on a Windows Mobile forum to start a new thread to announce that they just got a new iPhone ?
Can't they just ressurrect one of the other 1000 threads that were started everytime Apple passes gas. ?
I also love my Kaiser. Now when I got my new 3Gs last month, my first thought wasn't to rush right over to XDA to start a new thread to announce that I had gotten a new iPhone, why is that everyone elses first thought ?
Can we just add all the " I just got a new iPhone " threads to the AS team's list of duties ?
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What is it about people that they feel the need to come on a Windows Mobile forum to start a new thread to announce that they just got a new iPhone ?
Can't they just ressurrect one of the other 1000 threads that were started everytime Apple passes gas. ?
I have five Macs currently, am typing this on a Mac, my first PDA was an Apple Newton. I have been an Apple fanboy for 30yrs. And am on my second iPhone.
I also love my Kaiser. Now when I got my new 3Gs last month, my first thought wasn't to rush right over to XDA to start a new thread to announce that I had gotten a new iPhone, why is that everyone elses first thought ?
Can we just add all the " I just got a new iPhone " threads to the AS team's list of duties ?
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What is it about people that they feel the need to come on a Windows Mobile forum to start a new thread to announce that they just got a new iPhone ?
Can we just add all the " I just got a new iPhone " threads to the AS team's list of duties ?
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The AS team thinks these should be considered spam, but we need the xda admin's blessing...
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The AS team thinks these should be considered spam, but we need the xda admin's blessing...
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Plus one for this
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What stuff from HTC Hero or Palm Pre did you actually see? Are you certain that it is customizable. Because all I can see is the same old home screen with an HTC Hero Wallpaper.
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No, it's more than a mere wallpaper. It also includes customizing the icons, the keyboards, the phone pad, the home screen itself, etc.
Did some googling, and found this..
Of course, don't expect it to have the complete behaviour of HTC hero, just like you would not expect a winmo phone that has been customized to mimic iphone to behave like iPhone.
Cheers.
Just thought I'd introduce myself real quick like.
The names Kjell (say it like shell, but with a German accent) and currently living in Norway. I've lived most of my life in the US though. (Primarily in the south.)
I was a Nokia kind of guy, specifically the 9x series, like the 9000, 9110, e90 etc. (Owned each one at least once.) Then I switched to an old QTec (QTek?) phone a few years ago, and hated it. Went back to Nokia and just last year jumped onboard the horrible iPhone bandwagon. (It's a great phone, just, hate being tied down...)
I bought a used HTC Touch HD last week seeing how I've been eying the HD2 for a couple now. But I'm not sure how I'll like Windows on my phone again. So I'm taking it slow.
But needless to say, I'm quite happy with the HD1. It's got a great screen, it's pretty fast and I enjoy the many, many customization options.
My iPhone is being used as an MP3 player/gaming console for my little one.
I'm thinking about testing out some custom roms for the HD. Anyone got any suggestions? Maybe a rom with the possibility to change your local weather to a non HTC chosen location? (I tried doing this on my own via the XML file, but can't. I'm just not that leet lol.)
Anyways, I've said too much. Thanks for having me.
KSon
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My iPhone is being used as an MP3 player/gaming console for my little one.
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It is a toy for children (or the simple-minded)
KSon82 said:
Just thought I'd introduce myself real quick like.
The names Kjell (say it like shell, but with a German accent) and currently living in Norway. I've lived most of my life in the US though. (Primarily in the south.)
I was a Nokia kind of guy, specifically the 9x series, like the 9000, 9110, e90 etc. (Owned each one at least once.) Then I switched to an old QTec (QTek?) phone a few years ago, and hated it. Went back to Nokia and just last year jumped onboard the horrible iPhone bandwagon. (It's a great phone, just, hate being tied down...)
I bought a used HTC Touch HD last week seeing how I've been eying the HD2 for a couple now. But I'm not sure how I'll like Windows on my phone again. So I'm taking it slow.
But needless to say, I'm quite happy with the HD1. It's got a great screen, it's pretty fast and I enjoy the many, many customization options.
My iPhone is being used as an MP3 player/gaming console for my little one.
I'm thinking about testing out some custom roms for the HD. Anyone got any suggestions? Maybe a rom with the possibility to change your local weather to a non HTC chosen location? (I tried doing this on my own via the XML file, but can't. I'm just not that leet lol.)
Anyways, I've said too much. Thanks for having me.
KSon
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Welcome aboard
Have a look on Blackstone section and in the Wiki
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=451
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone
Read, Search, Respect and Enjoy!
Good luck,
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It is a toy for children (or the simple-minded)
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I love the people at XDA!
Thanks all for the welcome.
I've been looking at the HD roms, going to read up a little about the flashing technique first. Don't want to brick anything.
Welcome and enjoy XDA! Happy Flashing!
Well first off, Welcome to XDA.
As a starter I'd advise you to read the wiki's and stickies for your device.
If unsure about anything feel free post a query in the Q&A forum (generally for each device a Q&A thread has been created for queries) or to contact a moderator for assistance
Rick
First of all you will have to either know WM6.5 like the back of your hand and use the calender feature with it, or have a WM6.5 phone available to change stuff and see what I'm talking about to answer this question.
I had a Touch Pro 2 TMOUS. I hate SENSE because one, it looked like a kids toy and I'm an adult and two, boy did it drain some battery life, and three, taking it off gave me exactly what I wanted in a phone.
I'm a simple business man and I send a few hundred texts a day, get emails, and use outlook to sync my calendar stuff. Now.....
If you go into the home screen options and turn "sense" off and then turn on message notifications, and date, and calendar. then you will have what I have been looking at for almost 2 years now, and I love it. With this configuration all emails and texts and anything else all show up on the same one line so it takes up as little space as possible and THE MOST IMPORTANT THING all my calendar info appears on the home screen in a nice no nonsense list form with block letters in normal print. I miss that the most.
I would put WM6.5 on my new HD7 just for that alone. but I'm hoping someone out there knows what I'm talking about and can give me a solution or an idea. And if someone suggests to buy a HD2 I'll just hunt you down and slice your throat lol. I do not have an HD2, I have an HD7, get over yourself, and do not wast my time with asinine comments like that.
all I want, is that format like the WM6.5. Simple and small block letters with one line for all notifications and the rest of the screen free for a no nonsense small print, block letter form, list configuration for my calendar items.
I have a full time job, full time kids, full time wife, and full time "Grace Jiu-Jitsu" hobby/business, and a full time life. At any given day I could have 3 or 15 calendar reminders for that day between childrens Dr. appointments, aniverseries, querterly car check ups, meetings with cliants, trash day tomorrow, kids games, shopping for food, multiple private lessons that day, etc etc etc etc.
Very busy life and the simple fact is I can not remember it all in my head. I need this. and I need my calendar to be on my home screen constantly every day so it's always in my face so I don't miss anything that day. If there is a theme that makes your home screen just like that, just like the WM6.5 optional home screen that would be perfect.
Does anyone know how to help me with this? And yes I actually have considered just getting the HD2, but I thought I would start here first and then work my way toward spending money to solve the problem.
Don't buy WP7. Maybe there's an Android Widget that'll do what you need.
I think you already know Live Tiles aren't going to do what you want.
There are plenty of Android Forums on the net.
You could buy a HD2 lol
But unless someone finds a way to remove the metro hub i dout it, and before anyone can look at getting 6.5 on these we would need a hard spl first
I'm sorry, but if your Touch Pro2 did everything you wanted, then why would you change devices? Stick with the Touch Pro2. Its still a very viable device and according to you it did what you wanted.
The HTC HD7 and Windows Phone 7, at this point in time, cannot do what you have found the Touch Pro2 can do. They are two different phones, with completely different platforms. Both these platforms go in different directions, so you'll probably just want to stick with the platform that works for you.
Windows Phone 7 does not have themes (aside from dark, light, and your accent color), or multiple home screens, or have anything from Windows Phone 6.5 built into it at all. So you just aren't going to get the same functionality. Windows Phone 7 does have a great calendar, but it does not function the exact same as you seem to be describing (although pinning the calendar to the home screen always shows you your very next appointment).
But in all honesty what makes you think suggesting an HD2 is so terrible? You clearly want a business phone, and although WP7 has the office suite, it certainly isn't (and has never been advertised as) a business phone. The market WP7 has been pointed at is pretty much the same market as the iphone market. People who want to watch films on there phone, listen to music, and just generally get things done without wasting time.
If you rely on the features you've stated so much, i hate to say it but you've made a terrible decision in investing in what is essentially a brand new OS.
I think someone needs to get over themselves, but it certainly isn't the person/people who suggest you get a HD2.
So.. My calendar live tile serves me exactly as you state. I see the most recent appt on the tile itself. Tapping said tile takes me to all appointments for that day.
WP7 (not WM7), is nothing like WM6.5.
Ironically, the answer anyone here would give you, is to buy an HD2. They're by and large the same phone, and there are those that would argue the HD2 is better.
However, WP7 is light years ahead of WM6.5, imo. I've got 20 of them in a business and very few people complain. The platform isn't even a half year old.
"I do not have an HD2, I have an HD7, get over yourself, and do not wast my time with asinine comments like that."
You're lucky anyone took the time to respond to you at all. However, given you work with Gracie Jiu Jitsu, you attitude is more or less expected.
Thats a long ass message for such a busy guy Mr. BJJ. Learn something before asking for help in such a demanding fashion in this forum. And dont be so silly as to act like you are the only one with a smart phone who can fight.
What you want isnt possible on WP7. Why not sell it on eBay and buy an HD2? lol
Ok, let's try to answer in order.
Yes, this would not be the first time in my life the word "abrasive" has been used to describe me, but I find most people who do a ton of things all at once all the time are like that. too many people out there want to waste your time so you loose a lot of normal people patience. my apologies.
The reason for my words is because I've been a member here for some years now and know better than to post without reading and searching first. I have read all threads for the HD7, so I already knew what people would say. That's why I preemptively mentioned the HD2. I have already read everything.
That does not mean I am a developer or know anything, it just means I took the time not to be annoying by posting things that have already been posted. As such, I already knew the kinds of responses I would get such as "Get an HD2" and "just get a phone with WM6.5" and "why get a HD7?"
That's why I stated that I don't want to hear about the HD2 (because I already know) and stated that I already have an HD7 (to avoid people say "don't get an HD7.") etc. etc.
There is nothing terrible about the HD2, I think it sounds great, but that is not what I have, nor what my question was about, and wanted to avoid hearing about what I already knew and had read.
Anyway....the reason I get the HD7 and did not stick with my Touch Pro 2 is because I have gone through (3) TP2s all because I have pretty much mangled the keyboards over time.....that gets expensive...I looked into the problem and other people who are having the same problem all said to get a touch screen phone and those problems would go away, because it did for all of them. so of course I looked at the HD2 and the HD7 to compare and guess which one still had (4) hard buttons to potentially mangle and which one did not.....HD7. See, all my answers are logical as I am a logical person. No nonsense.
unfortunately.......you guys have all answered my questions just as I feared. so now, yes, I will be cregslisting my HD7 and yes, I will be getting an HD2.
And to the person who said "Thats a long ass message for such a busy guy" Just remember.....anything worth doing, is worth doing right. Why bother posting a half as question when most likely it will only yield half ass answers. My thoroughness has caused you guys to better understand me and there for better answer my question. If anything......you should take note
I have my HD2 right here next to my HD7 and I must say.....the HD2 wins on so many levels. cregslist this HD7 goes!
BECAUSE IT'S A USELESS OS AND PHONE! (who doesn't love a little flaming )
Good stuff and good luck with the hd2 mate.
If only those other few HD7 owners who litter the forums with "I don't like the OS" posts would take note of your logic and understanding. I suppose that day will come when a Pig travels by my upstairs window...
Don`t get what all the fuss is about. My calendar is pretty busy (at least 3 or 4 entries a day, sometimes many more)
Next appt appears on lock screen. Unlock the phone and there is is again on my calendar livetile.
Both me and the wife use google calendar so thats on another live tile so a single press takes me into my wifes calendar.
Loads better (IMO) to WM6.5 which I came from.
Once the Calendar API gets opened up, expect to see all sorts of applications to augment these functions.