Any way to use Tilt w/Linux ? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

All I want to do is transfer some ringtones that I made to my Tilt, from my Linux OS. Is this possible somehow ? Or do I really have to dig up my older than hell XP laptop, then install proprietary software in order to transfer files ? Thanks.
Doug

I tried SynCE ages ago, but I eventually gave up. I usually stick to the microSD card or SSH.

same here, I've tried a ton of different things, but all have failed...
I think pof has got it working on an ubuntu machine, why don't you pm him?

Discouraging, but I appreciate the honesty. I'll try and PM pof and see what he says. Otherwise, I guess it'll be all micro SD transfers. Thanks again.
Doug

I just download everything.. I put it in a folder tree structure based on the type of file (Communications, Schedule, Utility, etc) and then I access it from the phone from the web.
Sometimes also push things over bluetooth.

You could also attempt the Card Export / WM5torage solution; which lets you access the storage card as a USB Mass Storage device; and no proprietary software is needed for that route. I think I read that someone had that working in linux.
Jason

What I have done with my Ubuntu laptop is simply send the file via Bluetooth. It's a little slow, but it works like a champ!
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Is the card export thing a program I download from somewhere, or a cab file that enables the micro sd card to be read as a ums device ? That sounds like a perfect solution.
Bluetooth sounds good too, but my PC isn't (I didn't install one) equip with a BT card. The Macbook Pro, on the other hand... (which I've had a ***** of a time trying to get set up with the Tilt thus far...)
doug

dougrb said:
Is the card export thing a program I download from somewhere, or a cab file that enables the micro sd card to be read as a ums device ? That sounds like a perfect solution.
Bluetooth sounds good too, but my PC isn't (I didn't install one) equip with a BT card. The Macbook Pro, on the other hand... (which I've had a ***** of a time trying to get set up with the Tilt thus far...)
doug
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Ive got a Macbook Pro. What problems have you had? Maybe I can help you out a bit? Ive had no problems so far. Bluetooth file exchange works seamlessly for smaller programs and apps. When it comes to flashing roms, just use the microsd card with a card reader and rename the .nbh to KAISIMG.nbh
If you have any questions feel free to ask me.
Also, you can get a USB Bluetooth dongle these days for all of 15USD on Ebay. I would definitely invest in one for the other computer

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Softick Card Export

Is there any alternative for softick card export. WM5 storage don't seem to work on the kaiser.
Install trail version of Softick and then install WM5 1.8
joe mboule said:
Is there any alternative for softick card export. WM5 storage don't seem to work on the kaiser.
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Install trail version of Softick and then install WM5 1.8. USe Softtick once and then start using wm5storage. this is been working with my tilt. even after softtick expired.
HTH
I tried WM5torage and wasn't able to get it to work with my ROM. My understanding is that it will work IF you have the drivers to support the usb drive connection already, since WM5storage doesn't have them... so it really depends on your OS. I purchased a Softick license and I must say that it works perfectly. The difference is that Softick comes with the usb drivers.
My guess is that by installing the Softick trial, WM5torage can access the softick drivers.
Card Export II is well worth the small price. And I find the interface better than the WM5storage.
Pocket Controller Pro?
using softkick, is it normal for it to take 1 hour to transfer a 1.7gig file onto a 6gig sandisk card inside my tytn ii?
Mine wasn't quite that long. I just moved 1.26GB of music file and it took about 26 minutes.
briggs81 said:
using softkick, is it normal for it to take 1 hour to transfer a 1.7gig file onto a 6gig sandisk card inside my tytn ii?
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Softick doesn't advertise the transfer rate of Cardexport II.
USB Full Speed (1.1) ~1.5MB/S => 1.7GB file would take about 19mins theoretically.
USB High Speed (2.0) ~60MB/S => 1.7GB file would take about 30secs.
You rarely see these theoretical speeds because of so many variables to both computers as to how fast they read and/or write. I'd say your "real" speeds suggest something close to a slow USB 1.1 connection
I see.
Vista was telling me it was going at 444kb/sec and about 54 minutes to transfer all of it (accordign to vista, but that doesn't really mean much)
I mean, normally it would have taken 2-3 hours if i wasnt using this little app.
Cool idea, just not worth the money to spend on I guess if i could just take 3 seconds to pop out sd card and put it into reader/usb port.
Darn, was lookin pretty cool at first!
briggs81 said:
I see.
Cool idea, just not worth the money to spend on I guess if i could just take 3 seconds to pop out sd card and put it into reader/usb port.
Darn, was lookin pretty cool at first!
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Thats one of the selling factors for me. I don't have to carry or have access to a card reader when I'm away from the house. I can take it to work, friends houses and on vacation and be able to transfer files without the card reader. Most computers don't have card readers but about every computer now has a USB port you can plug into. Then it gets even more complicated with microSDHC as most existing card readers can't read them so then you'd be forced to carry a reader with you.
I got it to work for a few days, but suddently this app just keeps disconnecting and switch back to activesync. I have tried plenty of way of connecting it in Card-Export, but it just keeps switching back to activesync. Very sad. Can some gurus here pls share if you have similiar experience? thnks

using tilt as a micro sd reader

is there an app that will let you hijack the usb port to alow you to use the phone as a card reader so i dont have to take my adapter everywear with me. kind like whn you put a psp into usb mode, it just becomes a card reader ad thats it. thanks.
you can spend some money on card export, or try wm5torage.
there are your hints. links can be found via google.
Card Export
I've tried wm5torage and it would constantly lock up my at&t tilt. So I'm now using the trial of Card Export and it works flawlessly.
Be warned, it is a slow card reader for me (I know it's not the microSD card).
Yep, Card Export2 v3.06 works great for me. By the way WM5Storage will work, but it needs a driver from card export to do it. You don't have to buy or use CE2, but you do have to install it to get WM5Storage to work.
I'm not that cheap so I bought one instead of installing two.
http://www.soti.net/default.asp?Cmd=Products&SubCmd=PCPro
Yeah I have the newer Soti PCP V6. I still think my CE2 is much faster. Granted Soti does some really cool stuff. When I forget my Kaiser in the truck I can still use it & see the screen over 3G on my PC!

file transfering qustion

newbie here, i have a 1GB microSD card and i recently purchase a 4GB microSD card. could anyone please show me how to transfer the whole content of the 1GB to the 4GB. thank you very much in advance
Through the PC. I believe your fastest option is MicroSD to USB converter, if you have one. If not - transfer it all via Activesync (will be a bit slower). To and then from a directory on your PC. Make sure to keep everything in the exact same structure (directory tree and such) or your programs will not work.
Perhaps someone knows of a better way, but it's how I just did it last week when I upgraded.
That's exactly what I was going to suggest, using a card reader on the PC. It's worked on every WM phone I've owned and never caused issue.

USB to PC a Disk Drive mode

Hi There,
i have been searching for a while now but i could not find it anywhere.
is there a tool for the tytn II thats makes it possible to connect it to the computer and that you get a menu with the following:
active sync
disk drive mode
internet sharing
just like the diamond.
on my rom i only have these 2 options
active sync
internet sharing
on my rom i only have these 2 options
active sync
internet sharing
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That's because on the Kaiser nothing but the CardExport program manages to emulate disk drive mode.
Is the disk drive mode that CardExport gives you noticeably better than just exploring the phone when it's plugged in normally? I know when you do it that way it threatens to convert your files when you copy them over, but in my experience it never actually does.
The only time I used disk drive mode on my Hermes was so I could charge it via my PS3 usb port since I spend a considerable amount of time next to my PS3 (my ps3 is next to my theater chair since I have a 122" projection screen and the Projector and surround sound system - and PS3 - are next to the chairs in the back of the room.)
I haven't tried it on my Kaiser since when I got the Kaiser it came with another charger which I placed there so I don't need the PS3 to charge anymore.
I'd be interested to see if it would increase the transfer speed though.. my God is it slow..
There is one utility 'nueMassStorage' that is supposed to do this, however I can't get it to work. I have it cooked into my rom and it does indeed present you with the option of ActiveSync or Mass Storage when you connect it to a PC via USB. ActiveSync works as normal but unfortunately I can't get the Mass Storage to work - it appears as a drive but Windows can't open it.
Maybe you can have more luck with it? Its available here as an OEM package to cook into a ROM or as a .cab to install.
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueMassStorage.aspx
Andy
I think that's cooked into the HyperDragon III Raphael ROM.. I'll test it out later.. I only ever hit the active sync button since I don't like transferring over USB due to the ridiculously slow connection.
try WM5torage
dancj said:
Is the disk drive mode that CardExport gives you noticeably better than just exploring the phone when it's plugged in normally? I know when you do it that way it threatens to convert your files when you copy them over, but in my experience it never actually does.
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Yes its MUCH faster.
vernoncomph said:
try WM5torage
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does not work on kaiser unless you hack in the cardexport driver.
l3it3r said:
I think that's cooked into the HyperDragon III Raphael ROM.. I'll test it out later.. I only ever hit the active sync button since I don't like transferring over USB due to the ridiculously slow connection.
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I'd like to know how they got this working? I have tried all the USB memory card utilities I could find (WM5torage, Card Export and nueMassStorage) and I can't get any of them to work. WM5Torage just doesn't work at all, Card Export & nueMassStorage seem to exhibit the same behaviour where they activate and Windows sees a storage card but can't access it (I think it asks if you want to format it). I have tried on 4 different Windows XP & 2003 machines and all behave the same so it is obviously the Kaiser (or the ROM).
I have MS Voice Command installed and I think I read that this might be the problem, however I gave up in the end and carry a tiny microSD-USB adapter on a keyring so I can at least get access, even if I have to take the microSD out.
Andy
Nope, nevermind. PLugged it in and it's just active sync or internet sharing.. I can't remember where I saw that... might have been another phone I was using.. lol..
rmg said:
Yes its MUCH faster.
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Same here, much faster for big files like TomTom maps.
rmg said:
Yes its MUCH faster.
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Hmmm... I might give it a try then. Normally I use my card reader when I have big stuff to transfer, but it'd be nice to not have to physically move my card.
ADB100 said:
There is one utility 'nueMassStorage' that is supposed to do this, however I can't get it to work. I have it cooked into my rom and it does indeed present you with the option of ActiveSync or Mass Storage when you connect it to a PC via USB. ActiveSync works as normal but unfortunately I can't get the Mass Storage to work - it appears as a drive but Windows can't open it.
Maybe you can have more luck with it? Its available here as an OEM package to cook into a ROM or as a .cab to install.
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueMassStorage.aspx
Andy
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thnx mate i'm gonna try this tool
as for wm5torage even after finetuning the program it still het stuck
Damn it does not work
softick's card export 3.15
i'm using softick's card export II ver3.15 with Win XP PRO SP3
it's working fine
CEII actually started kaiser support with ver3.12.....that was working fine too...
i'm on Hyperdragon's lite rom
I have Voice COmmand instlled as well, and Card EXport worked fine for me.. I used it as a thumb drive with ym car stereo (atleast during the free trial) and it worked great.. my comptuer saw the phone as a USB drive as well.... I got the stock at&t 6.0 rom with the bloatware removed and lots of extra programs isntalled... Running Vista ultimate x64 edition....
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I'd like to know how they got this working? I have tried all the USB memory card utilities I could find (WM5torage, Card Export and nueMassStorage) and I can't get any of them to work. WM5Torage just doesn't work at all, Card Export & nueMassStorage seem to exhibit the same behaviour where they activate and Windows sees a storage card but can't access it (I think it asks if you want to format it). I have tried on 4 different Windows XP & 2003 machines and all behave the same so it is obviously the Kaiser (or the ROM).
I have MS Voice Command installed and I think I read that this might be the problem, however I gave up in the end and carry a tiny microSD-USB adapter on a keyring so I can at least get access, even if I have to take the microSD out.
Andy
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dancj said:
Hmmm... I might give it a try then. Normally I use my card reader when I have big stuff to transfer, but it'd be nice to not have to physically move my card.
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It's faster than Activesync indeed, and maybe more importantly doesn't require it to be installed on the PC you want to transfer files from, but it's still MUCH slower than putting the card in a reader. The communication on the Kaiser's USB is done at USB1.1 speeds (~800kB/s max while a card in a reader usually results in 3-15MB/s depending on the card and reader).
kilrah said:
It's faster than Activesync indeed, and maybe more importantly doesn't require it to be installed on the PC you want to transfer files from, but it's still MUCH slower than putting the card in a reader. The communication on the Kaiser's USB is done at USB1.1 speeds (~800kB/s max while a card in a reader usually results in 3-15MB/s depending on the card and reader).
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Yes this was my findings exactly. If you can use the card reader then do because nothing comes close in terms of speed.

Xbox not recognizing Kaiser

So i recently bought an xbox360. I was excited for the chance to play the music on my phones SD card on my 360. First i hooked up my sony PSP to my 360 through usb. It recognized it and i was able to open up a file manager through my 360 to acess the Mp3's. After this i hooked up my iPod and it worked the same way.
Now i decided to hook up my kaiser, the 360 didn't allow me to select it as a portable device. I was stuck. If there's a way to fix this problem i'd love a solution.
(Strange how microsoft supports a sony and apple products OS, but not a smartphone OS designed by them)
Windows Mobile phones don't appear as Mass storage, but rely on ActiveSync for communication.
You'll have to use a program like CardExport to have direct access to the card.
instead of connecting via activesync, you need to switch to use as mass storage device in the connections settings
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instead of connecting via activesync, you need to switch to use as mass storage device in the connections settings
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But that's only available on a few cooked ROMs, not on stock ones, and that feature on those that have it usually doesn't work on the Kaiser... The best thing is just to search for the numerous threads about mass storage, lots of infos and hacks there to try as they will work or not depending on the combination of actual phone hardware and ROM version. But the easy, albeit payware solution is CardExport.
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But that's only available on a few cooked ROMs, not on stock ones, and that feature on those that have it usually doesn't work on the Kaiser... The best thing is just to search for the numerous threads about mass storage, lots of infos and hacks there to try as they will work or not depending on the combination of actual phone hardware and ROM version. But the easy, albeit payware solution is CardExport.
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Yea that is right. the first rom I had was able to do mass storage, all the rest either didn't have it or i didn't work. i just use a memory card reader if i want to listen to music from my SD card.

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