USB to PC a Disk Drive mode - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps

Hi There,
i have been searching for a while now but i could not find it anywhere.
is there a tool for the tytn II thats makes it possible to connect it to the computer and that you get a menu with the following:
active sync
disk drive mode
internet sharing
just like the diamond.
on my rom i only have these 2 options
active sync
internet sharing

on my rom i only have these 2 options
active sync
internet sharing
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That's because on the Kaiser nothing but the CardExport program manages to emulate disk drive mode.

Is the disk drive mode that CardExport gives you noticeably better than just exploring the phone when it's plugged in normally? I know when you do it that way it threatens to convert your files when you copy them over, but in my experience it never actually does.

The only time I used disk drive mode on my Hermes was so I could charge it via my PS3 usb port since I spend a considerable amount of time next to my PS3 (my ps3 is next to my theater chair since I have a 122" projection screen and the Projector and surround sound system - and PS3 - are next to the chairs in the back of the room.)
I haven't tried it on my Kaiser since when I got the Kaiser it came with another charger which I placed there so I don't need the PS3 to charge anymore.
I'd be interested to see if it would increase the transfer speed though.. my God is it slow..

There is one utility 'nueMassStorage' that is supposed to do this, however I can't get it to work. I have it cooked into my rom and it does indeed present you with the option of ActiveSync or Mass Storage when you connect it to a PC via USB. ActiveSync works as normal but unfortunately I can't get the Mass Storage to work - it appears as a drive but Windows can't open it.
Maybe you can have more luck with it? Its available here as an OEM package to cook into a ROM or as a .cab to install.
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueMassStorage.aspx
Andy

I think that's cooked into the HyperDragon III Raphael ROM.. I'll test it out later.. I only ever hit the active sync button since I don't like transferring over USB due to the ridiculously slow connection.

try WM5torage

dancj said:
Is the disk drive mode that CardExport gives you noticeably better than just exploring the phone when it's plugged in normally? I know when you do it that way it threatens to convert your files when you copy them over, but in my experience it never actually does.
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Yes its MUCH faster.

vernoncomph said:
try WM5torage
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does not work on kaiser unless you hack in the cardexport driver.

l3it3r said:
I think that's cooked into the HyperDragon III Raphael ROM.. I'll test it out later.. I only ever hit the active sync button since I don't like transferring over USB due to the ridiculously slow connection.
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I'd like to know how they got this working? I have tried all the USB memory card utilities I could find (WM5torage, Card Export and nueMassStorage) and I can't get any of them to work. WM5Torage just doesn't work at all, Card Export & nueMassStorage seem to exhibit the same behaviour where they activate and Windows sees a storage card but can't access it (I think it asks if you want to format it). I have tried on 4 different Windows XP & 2003 machines and all behave the same so it is obviously the Kaiser (or the ROM).
I have MS Voice Command installed and I think I read that this might be the problem, however I gave up in the end and carry a tiny microSD-USB adapter on a keyring so I can at least get access, even if I have to take the microSD out.
Andy

Nope, nevermind. PLugged it in and it's just active sync or internet sharing.. I can't remember where I saw that... might have been another phone I was using.. lol..

rmg said:
Yes its MUCH faster.
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Same here, much faster for big files like TomTom maps.

rmg said:
Yes its MUCH faster.
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Hmmm... I might give it a try then. Normally I use my card reader when I have big stuff to transfer, but it'd be nice to not have to physically move my card.

ADB100 said:
There is one utility 'nueMassStorage' that is supposed to do this, however I can't get it to work. I have it cooked into my rom and it does indeed present you with the option of ActiveSync or Mass Storage when you connect it to a PC via USB. ActiveSync works as normal but unfortunately I can't get the Mass Storage to work - it appears as a drive but Windows can't open it.
Maybe you can have more luck with it? Its available here as an OEM package to cook into a ROM or as a .cab to install.
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueMassStorage.aspx
Andy
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thnx mate i'm gonna try this tool
as for wm5torage even after finetuning the program it still het stuck

Damn it does not work

softick's card export 3.15
i'm using softick's card export II ver3.15 with Win XP PRO SP3
it's working fine
CEII actually started kaiser support with ver3.12.....that was working fine too...
i'm on Hyperdragon's lite rom

I have Voice COmmand instlled as well, and Card EXport worked fine for me.. I used it as a thumb drive with ym car stereo (atleast during the free trial) and it worked great.. my comptuer saw the phone as a USB drive as well.... I got the stock at&t 6.0 rom with the bloatware removed and lots of extra programs isntalled... Running Vista ultimate x64 edition....
ADB100 said:
I'd like to know how they got this working? I have tried all the USB memory card utilities I could find (WM5torage, Card Export and nueMassStorage) and I can't get any of them to work. WM5Torage just doesn't work at all, Card Export & nueMassStorage seem to exhibit the same behaviour where they activate and Windows sees a storage card but can't access it (I think it asks if you want to format it). I have tried on 4 different Windows XP & 2003 machines and all behave the same so it is obviously the Kaiser (or the ROM).
I have MS Voice Command installed and I think I read that this might be the problem, however I gave up in the end and carry a tiny microSD-USB adapter on a keyring so I can at least get access, even if I have to take the microSD out.
Andy
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dancj said:
Hmmm... I might give it a try then. Normally I use my card reader when I have big stuff to transfer, but it'd be nice to not have to physically move my card.
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It's faster than Activesync indeed, and maybe more importantly doesn't require it to be installed on the PC you want to transfer files from, but it's still MUCH slower than putting the card in a reader. The communication on the Kaiser's USB is done at USB1.1 speeds (~800kB/s max while a card in a reader usually results in 3-15MB/s depending on the card and reader).

kilrah said:
It's faster than Activesync indeed, and maybe more importantly doesn't require it to be installed on the PC you want to transfer files from, but it's still MUCH slower than putting the card in a reader. The communication on the Kaiser's USB is done at USB1.1 speeds (~800kB/s max while a card in a reader usually results in 3-15MB/s depending on the card and reader).
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Yes this was my findings exactly. If you can use the card reader then do because nothing comes close in terms of speed.

Related

alpine and winamp....

hello, i 'm tring to syncromnise my xda with winamp 5.23, with no luck,
it's syncro with windows xp ok, no prob from this angle, but refuse to show up in winamp...
i also want to syncro it with adobe photoshope album starter ed, so i can manage my pict better, no luck, doesn't find the xda,
both these software should detect any usb portable device,
my xda IIi is syncro via usb cradle. and wifi,
help will be rely much appreciated... i did buy this xda for using mostly these features, and kinda spoil the fun of having a so good device that cannot be used ?
windows media player can be sync ok, but i don't use media player....
ok that it.
thanks
currently your device is not being seen as a standard USB removable mass storage device, but there is software you can get that allows your phone to be seen , I can't remember what its called though. Anyway the usb on the uni is rubbish, its only usb 1.1 or something Very Very Very slow you would be much better off getting a USB card reader writer an mp3 is tansfered in less than 2 seconds instead of taking a couple of minutes
currently your device is not being seen as a standard USB removable mass storage device, but there is software you can get that allows your phone to be seen , I can't remember what its called though. Anyway the usb on the uni is rubbish, its only usb 1.1 or something Very Very Very slow you would be much better off getting a USB card reader writer an mp3 is tansfered in less than 2 seconds instead of taking a couple of minutes
yes, Alpine doesnt have usb host, but it can be emulted by special software. (but th one which I used worked too slow and gave access only to SD card an and storage - no access to ROM)

Softick Card Export

Is there any alternative for softick card export. WM5 storage don't seem to work on the kaiser.
Install trail version of Softick and then install WM5 1.8
joe mboule said:
Is there any alternative for softick card export. WM5 storage don't seem to work on the kaiser.
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Install trail version of Softick and then install WM5 1.8. USe Softtick once and then start using wm5storage. this is been working with my tilt. even after softtick expired.
HTH
I tried WM5torage and wasn't able to get it to work with my ROM. My understanding is that it will work IF you have the drivers to support the usb drive connection already, since WM5storage doesn't have them... so it really depends on your OS. I purchased a Softick license and I must say that it works perfectly. The difference is that Softick comes with the usb drivers.
My guess is that by installing the Softick trial, WM5torage can access the softick drivers.
Card Export II is well worth the small price. And I find the interface better than the WM5storage.
Pocket Controller Pro?
using softkick, is it normal for it to take 1 hour to transfer a 1.7gig file onto a 6gig sandisk card inside my tytn ii?
Mine wasn't quite that long. I just moved 1.26GB of music file and it took about 26 minutes.
briggs81 said:
using softkick, is it normal for it to take 1 hour to transfer a 1.7gig file onto a 6gig sandisk card inside my tytn ii?
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Softick doesn't advertise the transfer rate of Cardexport II.
USB Full Speed (1.1) ~1.5MB/S => 1.7GB file would take about 19mins theoretically.
USB High Speed (2.0) ~60MB/S => 1.7GB file would take about 30secs.
You rarely see these theoretical speeds because of so many variables to both computers as to how fast they read and/or write. I'd say your "real" speeds suggest something close to a slow USB 1.1 connection
I see.
Vista was telling me it was going at 444kb/sec and about 54 minutes to transfer all of it (accordign to vista, but that doesn't really mean much)
I mean, normally it would have taken 2-3 hours if i wasnt using this little app.
Cool idea, just not worth the money to spend on I guess if i could just take 3 seconds to pop out sd card and put it into reader/usb port.
Darn, was lookin pretty cool at first!
briggs81 said:
I see.
Cool idea, just not worth the money to spend on I guess if i could just take 3 seconds to pop out sd card and put it into reader/usb port.
Darn, was lookin pretty cool at first!
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Thats one of the selling factors for me. I don't have to carry or have access to a card reader when I'm away from the house. I can take it to work, friends houses and on vacation and be able to transfer files without the card reader. Most computers don't have card readers but about every computer now has a USB port you can plug into. Then it gets even more complicated with microSDHC as most existing card readers can't read them so then you'd be forced to carry a reader with you.
I got it to work for a few days, but suddently this app just keeps disconnecting and switch back to activesync. I have tried plenty of way of connecting it in Card-Export, but it just keeps switching back to activesync. Very sad. Can some gurus here pls share if you have similiar experience? thnks

Connect USB Stick

Would it be possible to connect a USB stick to the Diamond by using this adapter ?
Diamond has no USB Host, so no
It would look ridiculous anyway. The Diamond is so small you can afford to carry that AND an Archos anyway. That is what I will do.
Ingvarr said:
Diamond has no USB Host, so no
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I guess because the hardware doesn't support it??
I had this feature on my Flame, was cool but I didn't use it much. You could even connect KB/mouse!
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Diamond has no USB Host, so no
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I think so too, but as you can see in service manual, htc connects an memory card reader through an Y-USB cradle to read the service-test sd card.
Doesn't that mean that there must be a way to host a device?
(The second one is an ac-adaptor.)
regards
eurofan said:
Would it be possible to connect a USB stick to the Diamond by using this adapter ?
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Where did you find this USB Stick ?
I am searching for that to use with the Diamond and try it
Here you are:
Intos-USB-Adapter-Adapter-USB-Buchse
cable version
regards
demacus said:
I think so too, but as you can see in service manual, htc connects an memory card reader through an Y-USB cradle to read the service-test sd card.
Doesn't that mean that there must be a way to host a device?
(The second one is an ac-adaptor.)
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yeah it looks like it works on the picture.
would be nice to be able to add usbstick to our Diamond, for backup and easy install
where did the pic come from? does the diamond recognize the flash drive?
The picture is from the HTC service manual - it shows how to attach the service test sd card to the device.
I think it should recognize the drive, otherwise they couldn't test the device...
demacus said:
The picture is from the HTC service manual - it shows how to attach the service test sd card to the device.
I think it should recognize the drive, otherwise they couldn't test the device...
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Where can we download it?
xda-dev wiki... like all the other manuals too.
Ok, I must be mistaken here then. Diamond have USB host, at least hardware support for it (unless they have some crossover MC inside this "Y-cable").
Hovewer it seems that it have only limited support in bootloader to load ROM image from memory stick.
Question is if it have the host driver in the Windows Mobile to actually support USB accesses inside WM?
Even soldered myself an y-wire for testing.
Inside Windows Mobile nothing happens when the stick is plugged in. (used an 8GB USB-Stick)
Diamond research section is not so far in the moment, so I don't know how to test if it will work in bootloader mode.
I think they have some electronics switched between device and disk, for access without driver.
edit: removed stupid thoughts, now simple using cat command...
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Hi
Is there any progress on this? Do you think we may have usb host for the Diamond at some point in the future?
So, let's push this thread.
I tried to connect an 8GB USB stick throught my self-soldered wire, I've put Diamond into "USB trigger mode" but without any success.
Now we have to figure out which devices can be connected in USB-mode...
I got a few exams in this week, so I'm gonna try at weekend to connect an simple sd card reader.
regards
demacus said:
So, let's push this thread.
I tried to connect an 8GB USB stick throught my self-soldered wire, I've put Diamond into "USB trigger mode" but without any success.
Now we have to figure out which devices can be connected in USB-mode...
I got a few exams in this week, so I'm gonna try at weekend to connect an simple sd card reader.
regards
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i think you should try a smaller stick...
as i remember there were problems in "window mobiling" with external drives (SD cards..) larger than 1GB
any luck with , would be tops
any progress?... I am looking forward..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413510

Any way to use Tilt w/Linux ?

All I want to do is transfer some ringtones that I made to my Tilt, from my Linux OS. Is this possible somehow ? Or do I really have to dig up my older than hell XP laptop, then install proprietary software in order to transfer files ? Thanks.
Doug
I tried SynCE ages ago, but I eventually gave up. I usually stick to the microSD card or SSH.
same here, I've tried a ton of different things, but all have failed...
I think pof has got it working on an ubuntu machine, why don't you pm him?
Discouraging, but I appreciate the honesty. I'll try and PM pof and see what he says. Otherwise, I guess it'll be all micro SD transfers. Thanks again.
Doug
I just download everything.. I put it in a folder tree structure based on the type of file (Communications, Schedule, Utility, etc) and then I access it from the phone from the web.
Sometimes also push things over bluetooth.
You could also attempt the Card Export / WM5torage solution; which lets you access the storage card as a USB Mass Storage device; and no proprietary software is needed for that route. I think I read that someone had that working in linux.
Jason
What I have done with my Ubuntu laptop is simply send the file via Bluetooth. It's a little slow, but it works like a champ!
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Is the card export thing a program I download from somewhere, or a cab file that enables the micro sd card to be read as a ums device ? That sounds like a perfect solution.
Bluetooth sounds good too, but my PC isn't (I didn't install one) equip with a BT card. The Macbook Pro, on the other hand... (which I've had a ***** of a time trying to get set up with the Tilt thus far...)
doug
dougrb said:
Is the card export thing a program I download from somewhere, or a cab file that enables the micro sd card to be read as a ums device ? That sounds like a perfect solution.
Bluetooth sounds good too, but my PC isn't (I didn't install one) equip with a BT card. The Macbook Pro, on the other hand... (which I've had a ***** of a time trying to get set up with the Tilt thus far...)
doug
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Ive got a Macbook Pro. What problems have you had? Maybe I can help you out a bit? Ive had no problems so far. Bluetooth file exchange works seamlessly for smaller programs and apps. When it comes to flashing roms, just use the microsd card with a card reader and rename the .nbh to KAISIMG.nbh
If you have any questions feel free to ask me.
Also, you can get a USB Bluetooth dongle these days for all of 15USD on Ebay. I would definitely invest in one for the other computer

Xbox not recognizing Kaiser

So i recently bought an xbox360. I was excited for the chance to play the music on my phones SD card on my 360. First i hooked up my sony PSP to my 360 through usb. It recognized it and i was able to open up a file manager through my 360 to acess the Mp3's. After this i hooked up my iPod and it worked the same way.
Now i decided to hook up my kaiser, the 360 didn't allow me to select it as a portable device. I was stuck. If there's a way to fix this problem i'd love a solution.
(Strange how microsoft supports a sony and apple products OS, but not a smartphone OS designed by them)
Windows Mobile phones don't appear as Mass storage, but rely on ActiveSync for communication.
You'll have to use a program like CardExport to have direct access to the card.
instead of connecting via activesync, you need to switch to use as mass storage device in the connections settings
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instead of connecting via activesync, you need to switch to use as mass storage device in the connections settings
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But that's only available on a few cooked ROMs, not on stock ones, and that feature on those that have it usually doesn't work on the Kaiser... The best thing is just to search for the numerous threads about mass storage, lots of infos and hacks there to try as they will work or not depending on the combination of actual phone hardware and ROM version. But the easy, albeit payware solution is CardExport.
kilrah said:
But that's only available on a few cooked ROMs, not on stock ones, and that feature on those that have it usually doesn't work on the Kaiser... The best thing is just to search for the numerous threads about mass storage, lots of infos and hacks there to try as they will work or not depending on the combination of actual phone hardware and ROM version. But the easy, albeit payware solution is CardExport.
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Yea that is right. the first rom I had was able to do mass storage, all the rest either didn't have it or i didn't work. i just use a memory card reader if i want to listen to music from my SD card.

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