Connect USB Stick - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

Would it be possible to connect a USB stick to the Diamond by using this adapter ?

Diamond has no USB Host, so no

It would look ridiculous anyway. The Diamond is so small you can afford to carry that AND an Archos anyway. That is what I will do.

Ingvarr said:
Diamond has no USB Host, so no
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I guess because the hardware doesn't support it??
I had this feature on my Flame, was cool but I didn't use it much. You could even connect KB/mouse!

Ingvarr said:
Diamond has no USB Host, so no
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I think so too, but as you can see in service manual, htc connects an memory card reader through an Y-USB cradle to read the service-test sd card.
Doesn't that mean that there must be a way to host a device?
(The second one is an ac-adaptor.)
regards

eurofan said:
Would it be possible to connect a USB stick to the Diamond by using this adapter ?
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Where did you find this USB Stick ?
I am searching for that to use with the Diamond and try it

Here you are:
Intos-USB-Adapter-Adapter-USB-Buchse
cable version
regards

demacus said:
I think so too, but as you can see in service manual, htc connects an memory card reader through an Y-USB cradle to read the service-test sd card.
Doesn't that mean that there must be a way to host a device?
(The second one is an ac-adaptor.)
regards
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yeah it looks like it works on the picture.
would be nice to be able to add usbstick to our Diamond, for backup and easy install

where did the pic come from? does the diamond recognize the flash drive?

The picture is from the HTC service manual - it shows how to attach the service test sd card to the device.
I think it should recognize the drive, otherwise they couldn't test the device...

demacus said:
The picture is from the HTC service manual - it shows how to attach the service test sd card to the device.
I think it should recognize the drive, otherwise they couldn't test the device...
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Where can we download it?

xda-dev wiki... like all the other manuals too.

Ok, I must be mistaken here then. Diamond have USB host, at least hardware support for it (unless they have some crossover MC inside this "Y-cable").
Hovewer it seems that it have only limited support in bootloader to load ROM image from memory stick.
Question is if it have the host driver in the Windows Mobile to actually support USB accesses inside WM?

Even soldered myself an y-wire for testing.
Inside Windows Mobile nothing happens when the stick is plugged in. (used an 8GB USB-Stick)
Diamond research section is not so far in the moment, so I don't know how to test if it will work in bootloader mode.
I think they have some electronics switched between device and disk, for access without driver.
edit: removed stupid thoughts, now simple using cat command...
regards

Hi
Is there any progress on this? Do you think we may have usb host for the Diamond at some point in the future?

So, let's push this thread.
I tried to connect an 8GB USB stick throught my self-soldered wire, I've put Diamond into "USB trigger mode" but without any success.
Now we have to figure out which devices can be connected in USB-mode...
I got a few exams in this week, so I'm gonna try at weekend to connect an simple sd card reader.
regards

demacus said:
So, let's push this thread.
I tried to connect an 8GB USB stick throught my self-soldered wire, I've put Diamond into "USB trigger mode" but without any success.
Now we have to figure out which devices can be connected in USB-mode...
I got a few exams in this week, so I'm gonna try at weekend to connect an simple sd card reader.
regards
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i think you should try a smaller stick...
as i remember there were problems in "window mobiling" with external drives (SD cards..) larger than 1GB

any luck with , would be tops

any progress?... I am looking forward..

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413510

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Use as mass storage device for USB card Stereo?

I have a car stereo that will allow me to plug in a USB flash drive for example loaded with standard MP3's / WMA's or what not.
Im looking for a way to be able to hook up my ATT tilt, and have the music on there recognized as being on a mass storage device.
Im guessing there is some software out there that could accomplish this but after searching for a few days I have yet to find anything.
Anyone have any ideas?
snowmirage said:
I have a car stereo that will allow me to plug in a USB flash drive for example loaded with standard MP3's / WMA's or what not.
Im looking for a way to be able to hook up my ATT tilt, and have the music on there recognized as being on a mass storage device.
Im guessing there is some software out there that could accomplish this but after searching for a few days I have yet to find anything.
Anyone have any ideas?
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or you could buy a scan disk usb adapter for microsd cards and that would work
thesire said:
or you could buy a scan disk usb adapter for microsd cards and that would work
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http://www.radioshack.com/product/i...x=6&x=10&s=A-StorePrice-RSK&parentPage=search
well yes yes i know I could do that lol
But pulling that tiny freakin card in and out of my phone 1000 times im sure it will end up getting sucked into the black hole under the seat of my car never to be seen again.
Also It would be nice to do it via the phone as It would charge the phone at the same time.
Might have found something
http://www.revver.com/video/828335/wm5-storage-windows-mobile-pda-as-usb-mass-storage/
which lead me too..
http://www.modaco.com/content/smartphone-software-freeware-download-discussion/238545/wm5torage/
or maybe..
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6602.html
anyone tried any of these on this phone?
snowmirage said:
Might have found something
http://www.revver.com/video/828335/wm5-storage-windows-mobile-pda-as-usb-mass-storage/
which lead me too..
http://www.modaco.com/content/smartphone-software-freeware-download-discussion/238545/wm5torage/
or maybe..
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6602.html
anyone tried any of these on this phone?
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I've never cared for the WM5Storage on the Kaiser. I've found it best to use Softick Card Export 2 to make the Kaiser into a USB Card Reader. Well worth the money.
http://www.softick.com/pocket-pc/cardexport2/

Reading USB Drives

I havent got a diamond yet, (on its way),
Just wondering if any one has tried to plug in a usb thumb drive into the usb port of the Diamond, and see if it detects it in the diamond as a drive.
This could be a good hack for someone to try if it doesnt detect it, as it could add extra storage.
Keep up the good work everyone
Joe
snap156 said:
I havent got a diamond yet, (on its way),
Just wondering if any one has tried to plug in a usb thumb drive into the usb port of the Diamond, and see if it detects it in the diamond as a drive.
This could be a good hack for someone to try if it doesnt detect it, as it could add extra storage.
Keep up the good work everyone
Joe
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This will not work as the Diamond has no USB host interface!
The only device which I know of which has a USB host is Xda Flame.
thanks for the reply, actually i was thinking of the flame before i looked at the diamond, i guess theres no comparison...
its a cool idea... wouldn't mind seeing it on a device someday

Diamond CAN READ external SD cards!

According to HTC service manual http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410653 (picture attached) there are somewere an Y cable and SD card reader !!!!
Topic exists, fella.
So the Diamond has USB Host?
Surur
Riel said:
Topic exists, fella.
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If you mean THIS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2311863 topic doesn't look the same to me, if I missed some other topic... please point out and I will join
surur said:
So the Diamond has USB Host?
Surur
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Till now we just proved the existence of a working SD card reader-cable connected.
Special reader? Special Cable? According with HTC service manual no special software is needed, so the solution is in the HW
MAKE A SMALL Diamond like microsd card reader?
people get some entrepreneurial spirit 3 million diamonds are going to be sold
know some manufacturer which can make it for $10 a piece and you sell it for $49, YOU SELL 250K, YOU MADE over $10 MILLION, theres a life.
or VIEW THIS! http://www.tca-inc.net/usbmatousbbf.html and http://www.bizrate.com/memorycards/oid796436093.html
will that work?
Another USB reader
Check this out.
http://www.netimes.com/shop/miniusb-smart-cable-charger-microsd-card-reader-gray-p-1097.html
Nice prices, altough shipping will be put on the price.
I almost hate to ask, but has anyone actually tried plugging in a card reader or USB drive?
If someone managed to cram the features of the smart cable into the space made by the extended battery back cover, we'll have a neat little extension to the phone
Bringing up an old topic.... But just for the info here it is:
I worked with it many times. It can read the SD card but only in special conditions. You cannot use it as a USB host and read-write files etc.
The cable is a special cable so don't bother look for a ready made one commercially.
Regards!
i think its purpose is for service only
CMIIW
i think its purpose is for service only
CMIIW
I think the SD Card reader in the picture is simply a USB OTG Bridge that can transfer data to USB client devices.
Here is a similar product:
http://www.everythingusb.com/sima_hitch_usb-101.html
Forget hitch, the reader is a plain card reader.
And yes it is used for servicing only.
I could go into further details later if you want or even show how to build one.
Is there something useful here?
http://forum.ppcwarez.org/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=58813
Hm... Have no idea, didn't tested it.
leosedf said:
Forget hitch, the reader is a plain card reader.
And yes it is used for servicing only.
I could go into further details later if you want or even show how to build one.
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if that's a plain card reader, it means the Diamond is an USB host or OTG device, right?
if that's true, we could provide an external 5v power to the card reader, and connect card reader's D+ and D- pins to Diamond to get it work, right? ... is it required to connect the both sides' Vcc and Gnd pins? Or, maybe the external power is not required?
thanks,
jeffrey
It will only work for servicing purposes. Nothing else. About the connections you are right.
I see. So it's useless for the rest of us.
Thanks,
Jeffrey

USB to PC a Disk Drive mode

Hi There,
i have been searching for a while now but i could not find it anywhere.
is there a tool for the tytn II thats makes it possible to connect it to the computer and that you get a menu with the following:
active sync
disk drive mode
internet sharing
just like the diamond.
on my rom i only have these 2 options
active sync
internet sharing
on my rom i only have these 2 options
active sync
internet sharing
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That's because on the Kaiser nothing but the CardExport program manages to emulate disk drive mode.
Is the disk drive mode that CardExport gives you noticeably better than just exploring the phone when it's plugged in normally? I know when you do it that way it threatens to convert your files when you copy them over, but in my experience it never actually does.
The only time I used disk drive mode on my Hermes was so I could charge it via my PS3 usb port since I spend a considerable amount of time next to my PS3 (my ps3 is next to my theater chair since I have a 122" projection screen and the Projector and surround sound system - and PS3 - are next to the chairs in the back of the room.)
I haven't tried it on my Kaiser since when I got the Kaiser it came with another charger which I placed there so I don't need the PS3 to charge anymore.
I'd be interested to see if it would increase the transfer speed though.. my God is it slow..
There is one utility 'nueMassStorage' that is supposed to do this, however I can't get it to work. I have it cooked into my rom and it does indeed present you with the option of ActiveSync or Mass Storage when you connect it to a PC via USB. ActiveSync works as normal but unfortunately I can't get the Mass Storage to work - it appears as a drive but Windows can't open it.
Maybe you can have more luck with it? Its available here as an OEM package to cook into a ROM or as a .cab to install.
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueMassStorage.aspx
Andy
I think that's cooked into the HyperDragon III Raphael ROM.. I'll test it out later.. I only ever hit the active sync button since I don't like transferring over USB due to the ridiculously slow connection.
try WM5torage
dancj said:
Is the disk drive mode that CardExport gives you noticeably better than just exploring the phone when it's plugged in normally? I know when you do it that way it threatens to convert your files when you copy them over, but in my experience it never actually does.
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Yes its MUCH faster.
vernoncomph said:
try WM5torage
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does not work on kaiser unless you hack in the cardexport driver.
l3it3r said:
I think that's cooked into the HyperDragon III Raphael ROM.. I'll test it out later.. I only ever hit the active sync button since I don't like transferring over USB due to the ridiculously slow connection.
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I'd like to know how they got this working? I have tried all the USB memory card utilities I could find (WM5torage, Card Export and nueMassStorage) and I can't get any of them to work. WM5Torage just doesn't work at all, Card Export & nueMassStorage seem to exhibit the same behaviour where they activate and Windows sees a storage card but can't access it (I think it asks if you want to format it). I have tried on 4 different Windows XP & 2003 machines and all behave the same so it is obviously the Kaiser (or the ROM).
I have MS Voice Command installed and I think I read that this might be the problem, however I gave up in the end and carry a tiny microSD-USB adapter on a keyring so I can at least get access, even if I have to take the microSD out.
Andy
Nope, nevermind. PLugged it in and it's just active sync or internet sharing.. I can't remember where I saw that... might have been another phone I was using.. lol..
rmg said:
Yes its MUCH faster.
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Same here, much faster for big files like TomTom maps.
rmg said:
Yes its MUCH faster.
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Hmmm... I might give it a try then. Normally I use my card reader when I have big stuff to transfer, but it'd be nice to not have to physically move my card.
ADB100 said:
There is one utility 'nueMassStorage' that is supposed to do this, however I can't get it to work. I have it cooked into my rom and it does indeed present you with the option of ActiveSync or Mass Storage when you connect it to a PC via USB. ActiveSync works as normal but unfortunately I can't get the Mass Storage to work - it appears as a drive but Windows can't open it.
Maybe you can have more luck with it? Its available here as an OEM package to cook into a ROM or as a .cab to install.
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueMassStorage.aspx
Andy
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thnx mate i'm gonna try this tool
as for wm5torage even after finetuning the program it still het stuck
Damn it does not work
softick's card export 3.15
i'm using softick's card export II ver3.15 with Win XP PRO SP3
it's working fine
CEII actually started kaiser support with ver3.12.....that was working fine too...
i'm on Hyperdragon's lite rom
I have Voice COmmand instlled as well, and Card EXport worked fine for me.. I used it as a thumb drive with ym car stereo (atleast during the free trial) and it worked great.. my comptuer saw the phone as a USB drive as well.... I got the stock at&t 6.0 rom with the bloatware removed and lots of extra programs isntalled... Running Vista ultimate x64 edition....
ADB100 said:
I'd like to know how they got this working? I have tried all the USB memory card utilities I could find (WM5torage, Card Export and nueMassStorage) and I can't get any of them to work. WM5Torage just doesn't work at all, Card Export & nueMassStorage seem to exhibit the same behaviour where they activate and Windows sees a storage card but can't access it (I think it asks if you want to format it). I have tried on 4 different Windows XP & 2003 machines and all behave the same so it is obviously the Kaiser (or the ROM).
I have MS Voice Command installed and I think I read that this might be the problem, however I gave up in the end and carry a tiny microSD-USB adapter on a keyring so I can at least get access, even if I have to take the microSD out.
Andy
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dancj said:
Hmmm... I might give it a try then. Normally I use my card reader when I have big stuff to transfer, but it'd be nice to not have to physically move my card.
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It's faster than Activesync indeed, and maybe more importantly doesn't require it to be installed on the PC you want to transfer files from, but it's still MUCH slower than putting the card in a reader. The communication on the Kaiser's USB is done at USB1.1 speeds (~800kB/s max while a card in a reader usually results in 3-15MB/s depending on the card and reader).
kilrah said:
It's faster than Activesync indeed, and maybe more importantly doesn't require it to be installed on the PC you want to transfer files from, but it's still MUCH slower than putting the card in a reader. The communication on the Kaiser's USB is done at USB1.1 speeds (~800kB/s max while a card in a reader usually results in 3-15MB/s depending on the card and reader).
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Yes this was my findings exactly. If you can use the card reader then do because nothing comes close in terms of speed.

[Q] Using OTG Cable But 64 GB Flash Drive Not Recognised

In the user guide it states "You need a USB On-The-Go micro cable adapter to connect HTC phone and a USB storage device. HTC phone supports USB storage devices (except portable hard drives) up to 64 gb."
I have downloaded ASTRO File manager and on attaching the OTG cable to the ONE and than the 64 GB GB Flash Drive, I am unable to find the flash Drive. The drive illuminates but is not discoverable on the phone. I don't know if 64 gb is too large a flash drive, but it seems strange to state up to 64 GB if it can't take it.
Any help would be appreciated. The phone is locked to 3 and is running 4.1.2.
Thank you
Robert1960 said:
In the user guide it states "You need a USB On-The-Go micro cable adapter to connect HTC phone and a USB storage device. HTC phone supports USB storage devices (except portable hard drives) up to 64 gb."
I have downloaded ASTRO File manager and on attaching the OTG cable to the ONE and than the 64 GB GB Flash Drive, I am unable to find the flash Drive. The drive illuminates but is not discoverable on the phone. I don't know if 64 gb is too large a flash drive, but it seems strange to state up to 64 GB if it can't take it.
Any help would be appreciated. The phone is locked to 3 and is running 4.1.2.
Thank you
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Are you going up to the root of the filesystem or looking in the built-in storage where DCIM, documents etc.. live? You won't find an attached drive inside your "SDCard".
shuflie said:
Are you going up to the root of the filesystem or looking in the built-in storage where DCIM, documents etc.. live? You won't find an attached drive inside your "SDCard".
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Thank you shuflie;40231955]
You will have to give me step by step instructions please.
I have opened Astro File Manager and am presented with the options under locations of
1, My Files
2 Scan local Networks
3 google mail
4 box
5 Drop box
6 Facebook.
7 Sky Drive
No where in any of the folders, do I find anything that resembles what appears to be a flash drive. Please advise so that I can get this to work.
Thank you
I don't have astro, but best location to start would be my files, then look in the settings to see if you need to change something to allow access to the root filesystem. To be honest the easiset thing to do would be to install root explorer as it will default to top level of the filesystem. Should see a folder called something like "USB storage" there.
Use ES File Explorer much better.
All you do then is press the / button and it takes you to root of the phone and then from there you can choose sdcard.
I think the 64gb flash is formatted as exfat. try formatting it to fat32 instead.
Nekromantik said:
Use ES File Explorer much better.
All you do then is press the / button and it takes you to root of the phone and then from there you can choose sdcard.
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Strange, on my ES File explorer I needed to enable "Up to root" in settings and press the folder with the up arrow on it. Can't see a / button anywhere, just in the location history.
Final request please.
Does anyone know how to get an OTG cable and a 64 GB flashdrive to be seen, recognised for videos to be accessed from that flashdrive using such a cable on an HTC One ? Thank you
Format the USB stick fat32. NTFS doesn't work without additional software on the phone.
ES File Explorer +1
Sent from the HOXL dimension of S-OFF
As mention above the manual says:
"You need a USB On-The-Go micro cable adapter to connect HTC One
and a USB storage device. HTC One supports USB storage devices
(except portable hard drives) up to 64 GB"
Is not possible to connect a hard drive? And only up to 64GB? Cant i connect more then that? I am sure other Android phones doesn't have this limitation.
Robert1960 said:
Final request please.
Does anyone know how to get an OTG cable and a 64 GB flashdrive to be seen, recognised for videos to be accessed from that flashdrive using such a cable on an HTC One ? Thank you
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As has already been mentioned, it has nothing to do with size, only how you've formatted it. It can read any drive that goes up to the maximum of FAT32 (2TB IIRC).
Ok,
Any software to work with NTFS?
Thanks for this thread. I can cross out HTC One from my list of next phone candidates.
I will not be buying any phone unless it supports large files (+4GB).
Unfortunately, as it looks like now, that means choosing a plastic phone
seriously?
abubasim said:
Thanks for this thread. I can cross out HTC One from my list of next phone candidates.
I will not be buying any phone unless it supports large files (+4GB).
Unfortunately, as it looks like now, that means choosing a plastic phone
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are you really basing your opinion on buying this phone from this users inability to connect a 64 gig flash drive via usb otg?
if so, go ahead and get plastic.....you don't deserve this phone.
theres an app that you get that will help mount ntfs over otg.
and yes you can mount portables.
enough said. go with samsung.
sKrAm_2013 said:
if so, go ahead and get plastic.....you don't deserve this phone.
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Hello Junior Member. Big words coming from you!
I need a phone that can take files larger than 4GB. What's the point with a full HD display that can't take full HD movies without cropping and cutting?
Embarrasing for a senior member not to know this...
abubasim said:
Hello Junior Member. Big words coming from you!
I need a phone that can take files larger than 4GB. What's the point with a full HD display that can't take full HD movies without cropping and cutting?
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Like skram said....there is an app in the appstore for that and it is free. you can watch full 1080p movies above 4gb with no cropping. you are looking for an excuse to go with plastic.
Assuming too much?
criticalera said:
Like skram said....there is an app in the appstore for that and it is free. you can watch full 1080p movies above 4gb with no cropping. you are looking for an excuse to go with plastic.
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I have tried Paragon's NTFS driver. But two reasons I wouldn't choose it:
1. Requires rooting. I'm past the experimenting-with-my-phone stage since a long time back.
2. Doesn't work with the internal 32/64GB.
And no, I wouldn't choose Samsung. My current phone is the Sony XP, which with its aluminium body seems to be HTC's inspiration.
usb otg helper
abubasim said:
I have tried Paragon's NTFS driver. But two reasons I wouldn't choose it:
1. Requires rooting. I'm past the experimenting-with-my-phone stage since a long time back.
2. Doesn't work with the internal 32/64GB.
And no, I wouldn't choose Samsung. My current phone is the Sony XP, which with its aluminium body seems to be HTC's inspiration.
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have you tried usb otg helper? it requires root also but looks more promising than paragon's ntfs driver.
if your no longer experimenting with mods, roms, tweaks, root, and such then why even bother checking out xda?
I mean no disrespect. I'm just curious.
criticalera said:
if your no longer experimenting with mods, roms, tweaks, root, and such then why even bother checking out xda?
I mean no disrespect. I'm just curious.
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You mean experimentation is a must for XDA users? No other valid reasons to visit this site?
I do still experiment with ROMs. Right now I'm trying to get the newly announced JB for the SXP. But beyond loading different ROMs, I'm not interested tweaks etc.
Same issue with my SXP actually. The internal 16GB does not support >4GB files.
there has to be a way
abubasim said:
You mean experimentation is a must for XDA users? No other valid reasons to visit this site?
I do still experiment with ROMs. Right now I'm trying to get the newly announced JB for the SXP. But beyond loading different ROMs, I'm not interested tweaks etc.
Same issue with my SXP actually. The internal 16GB does not support >4GB files.
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dude, there has to be a way to have your device recognize file sizes above 4GB internally.
I will see what i can find.
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