Hello everyone,
I have a problem with mine Diamond.
When i try to transfer a Divx, so a file like 600 Mb, the trasfer get much slower at 50%, so that the transfer time increase rapidly from 15 minutes to hours. I tried to use even the active sync mode, than the Storage card mode with the same result. I have enought space on my internal storage, and i have had the some result with bouth 1 Gb of free memory and 3,5 Gb of free memory.
Is it an known bug? Is there a solution?
Thanks for your support and congratulation for the forum.
Noone else has this problem?
are you connecting the device to a USB 2.0 port? Because on USB 1.0 i would expect a 600mb file to take hours to copy.
I'm using USB 2.0 port. The problem is that until 50% the time is regular, just some minutes...than it get increased to hours...
The only other thing i can think of then is if you are using Vista by any chance it has been reported it has/had a problem with copying large files (not just with the Diamond, just in general)
Ok...we should have found the problem... I use vista.
So do you know if is there any solution?
I decided against running vista to be honest, but i did a quick search and found some information here: http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/08/24/slow-file-and-folder-copy-move-transfer-or-delete-operation-speed-problem-in-vista-fix/
You can also read more if you simply type in 'slow copying on vista' into google. This is only a guess at what your problem could be though. I know that using USB 2.0 on XP transfers files for me very quickly (just wish i could get iGO to bloody work though when copied! )
I have a problem any high quality video files, such as DivX. Apparently there is supposed to be a version specific for the Diamond of The Core Media Player, don't know what's happening with it.
Thank for your help gary.bannister.
I have tryied the suggestion written in the website without success...
Thank you anyway.
I only hope it's not a problem of my device because i haven't heard noone else with this problem.
Bye
Ive had this same problem a few times, but ive noticed that if i plug the diamond in another usb slot then i get normal speeds.
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hello, i 'm tring to syncromnise my xda with winamp 5.23, with no luck,
it's syncro with windows xp ok, no prob from this angle, but refuse to show up in winamp...
i also want to syncro it with adobe photoshope album starter ed, so i can manage my pict better, no luck, doesn't find the xda,
both these software should detect any usb portable device,
my xda IIi is syncro via usb cradle. and wifi,
help will be rely much appreciated... i did buy this xda for using mostly these features, and kinda spoil the fun of having a so good device that cannot be used ?
windows media player can be sync ok, but i don't use media player....
ok that it.
thanks
currently your device is not being seen as a standard USB removable mass storage device, but there is software you can get that allows your phone to be seen , I can't remember what its called though. Anyway the usb on the uni is rubbish, its only usb 1.1 or something Very Very Very slow you would be much better off getting a USB card reader writer an mp3 is tansfered in less than 2 seconds instead of taking a couple of minutes
currently your device is not being seen as a standard USB removable mass storage device, but there is software you can get that allows your phone to be seen , I can't remember what its called though. Anyway the usb on the uni is rubbish, its only usb 1.1 or something Very Very Very slow you would be much better off getting a USB card reader writer an mp3 is tansfered in less than 2 seconds instead of taking a couple of minutes
yes, Alpine doesnt have usb host, but it can be emulted by special software. (but th one which I used worked too slow and gave access only to SD card an and storage - no access to ROM)
I simply love the tilt and have wasted countless hours messing with software and settings. I bought a fancy 8gb card for it but It transfers so wicked slow! For me to transfer 165mb file (Futurama Episode 1) it takes like 10 min. I have USB 2.0 and I am using Microsoft Active Sync on Windows XP. Anyway of speeding things up? This feels so much like USB 1.1 again!
Thanks so much for yalls help!
I mean I do realize that I am limited to 4 mgs a sec but still... it shouldn't take ten minutes!
Yeah the kaiser IS slow on doing it that way, You need that card usb adapter it (might have) came with. Its around 10x faster and much easier to transfer big files over.
You can try software like Softick Card Export (there's a freeware one but I can't recall the name atm) and it will speed up transfers a bit, since it turns the kaiser on an usb flash drive, speed still won't be as you would wish.
Ideally, would be to get a card reader to pass stuff, saves lots of headaches
Yep thanks for the help dont have one of those card readers. Ill try that program though
Thanks!
hey guys,
ever since i got my tilt, data transfer over USB has been painfully slow. for example, a 900 mb tomtom map took over 2 hours to transfer. I tried taking the SD card out and putting it into my laptop. everything transferred in less than a minute, but as soon as i put the SD card back into my tilt, it turned out it was corrupted. i tried searching for a solution to this issue, but couldn't find anything.
halp
you say ever since you got your tilt does that mean that you had other and faster transfers on other pda's because in my exp thats the case with all wm devices
no, this is my first WM phone, and first PDA ever (i had an i870 before)
activesync is slow period, i use a mediacard reader,i highly recommend a storage card and is SDHC and a compatible card reader for your laptop/desktop,can also find cards on ebay with usb readers instead of card readers so you can just plug the card into the usb stick and away you go
unfortunately that's how the USB plug works on these phones. It's USB 1.1 only.
it's not just a usb1.1 issue as usb1.1 should be able to do 12MB/sec which is far from what happens in reallife
To give you an idea, I just did a quick and dirty test of the different transfer times.
RAR: 41.7 MB
Using Activesync:
- Copy to internal memory => 01:05
- Copy to SD Card => 01:20
Using Card Export:
- Copy to SD Card => 00:51 (mean transfer rate: 850 KB/sec)
Using USB Card Reader =>
- Copy to SD Card => 00:04 (mean transfer rate: 12500 KB/sec)
Conclusion: Always use an external card reader for transfering (large) files.
Tytn II has usb 2. Why the speed is so lame then?
The Kaiser is my first device, so I don't have any other devices to compare to. But in a large degree I have noticed the same for other mobile devices (like cameras, mp3-players,...)
It has to do with some factors:
- What app is used to transfer the data?
Working through Activesync to transfer data clearly works slower. That's because AS works as just another layer controlling the data transfer, thereby slowing the process. When you use Card Export, only the regular explorer.exe process is used for tranferring the data.
- Chipset limitations:
It might be that the Qualcomm chipset has a slow MicroSD and USB controller. Manufacturers also have to choose between better battery life or more speed. Mostly better battery life is chose, thereby bringing down the speed.
My old Dell Axim x50v used to sync calendar/appt within 5 secs. But my tilt takes atleast 1 min everytime to sync calender/appt. It takes that long before the sync icon stops spinning and states connected. Do you guys have the same problem?
btw, transfer speeds for data are the same between the two pdas. its just the sync time.
It is always painfully slow to transfer files with activesync, not just the Kaiser but with all PPCs. As far as sync with outlook that is really poor with WM6 and Activesync 4.5. I think I read somewhere the reason is that activesync runs very in depth checks on changes and date comparisons resultuing in long sync times.
my main problem is not that the tilt is soo slow, but why is my sd card getting corrupted EVERY time i put it in my computer? when i copy a decent size file, all the other files are fine, but that one explodes its size like 10x and takes up 90% of the card. my only option is to format every time
weakest link set the pace
if usb2 is supported then there most be a bottleneck
elsewhere
it imho seem to have been an issue with every pda ever
Hi There,
i have been searching for a while now but i could not find it anywhere.
is there a tool for the tytn II thats makes it possible to connect it to the computer and that you get a menu with the following:
active sync
disk drive mode
internet sharing
just like the diamond.
on my rom i only have these 2 options
active sync
internet sharing
on my rom i only have these 2 options
active sync
internet sharing
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That's because on the Kaiser nothing but the CardExport program manages to emulate disk drive mode.
Is the disk drive mode that CardExport gives you noticeably better than just exploring the phone when it's plugged in normally? I know when you do it that way it threatens to convert your files when you copy them over, but in my experience it never actually does.
The only time I used disk drive mode on my Hermes was so I could charge it via my PS3 usb port since I spend a considerable amount of time next to my PS3 (my ps3 is next to my theater chair since I have a 122" projection screen and the Projector and surround sound system - and PS3 - are next to the chairs in the back of the room.)
I haven't tried it on my Kaiser since when I got the Kaiser it came with another charger which I placed there so I don't need the PS3 to charge anymore.
I'd be interested to see if it would increase the transfer speed though.. my God is it slow..
There is one utility 'nueMassStorage' that is supposed to do this, however I can't get it to work. I have it cooked into my rom and it does indeed present you with the option of ActiveSync or Mass Storage when you connect it to a PC via USB. ActiveSync works as normal but unfortunately I can't get the Mass Storage to work - it appears as a drive but Windows can't open it.
Maybe you can have more luck with it? Its available here as an OEM package to cook into a ROM or as a .cab to install.
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueMassStorage.aspx
Andy
I think that's cooked into the HyperDragon III Raphael ROM.. I'll test it out later.. I only ever hit the active sync button since I don't like transferring over USB due to the ridiculously slow connection.
try WM5torage
dancj said:
Is the disk drive mode that CardExport gives you noticeably better than just exploring the phone when it's plugged in normally? I know when you do it that way it threatens to convert your files when you copy them over, but in my experience it never actually does.
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Yes its MUCH faster.
vernoncomph said:
try WM5torage
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does not work on kaiser unless you hack in the cardexport driver.
l3it3r said:
I think that's cooked into the HyperDragon III Raphael ROM.. I'll test it out later.. I only ever hit the active sync button since I don't like transferring over USB due to the ridiculously slow connection.
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I'd like to know how they got this working? I have tried all the USB memory card utilities I could find (WM5torage, Card Export and nueMassStorage) and I can't get any of them to work. WM5Torage just doesn't work at all, Card Export & nueMassStorage seem to exhibit the same behaviour where they activate and Windows sees a storage card but can't access it (I think it asks if you want to format it). I have tried on 4 different Windows XP & 2003 machines and all behave the same so it is obviously the Kaiser (or the ROM).
I have MS Voice Command installed and I think I read that this might be the problem, however I gave up in the end and carry a tiny microSD-USB adapter on a keyring so I can at least get access, even if I have to take the microSD out.
Andy
Nope, nevermind. PLugged it in and it's just active sync or internet sharing.. I can't remember where I saw that... might have been another phone I was using.. lol..
rmg said:
Yes its MUCH faster.
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Same here, much faster for big files like TomTom maps.
rmg said:
Yes its MUCH faster.
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Hmmm... I might give it a try then. Normally I use my card reader when I have big stuff to transfer, but it'd be nice to not have to physically move my card.
ADB100 said:
There is one utility 'nueMassStorage' that is supposed to do this, however I can't get it to work. I have it cooked into my rom and it does indeed present you with the option of ActiveSync or Mass Storage when you connect it to a PC via USB. ActiveSync works as normal but unfortunately I can't get the Mass Storage to work - it appears as a drive but Windows can't open it.
Maybe you can have more luck with it? Its available here as an OEM package to cook into a ROM or as a .cab to install.
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueMassStorage.aspx
Andy
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thnx mate i'm gonna try this tool
as for wm5torage even after finetuning the program it still het stuck
Damn it does not work
softick's card export 3.15
i'm using softick's card export II ver3.15 with Win XP PRO SP3
it's working fine
CEII actually started kaiser support with ver3.12.....that was working fine too...
i'm on Hyperdragon's lite rom
I have Voice COmmand instlled as well, and Card EXport worked fine for me.. I used it as a thumb drive with ym car stereo (atleast during the free trial) and it worked great.. my comptuer saw the phone as a USB drive as well.... I got the stock at&t 6.0 rom with the bloatware removed and lots of extra programs isntalled... Running Vista ultimate x64 edition....
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I'd like to know how they got this working? I have tried all the USB memory card utilities I could find (WM5torage, Card Export and nueMassStorage) and I can't get any of them to work. WM5Torage just doesn't work at all, Card Export & nueMassStorage seem to exhibit the same behaviour where they activate and Windows sees a storage card but can't access it (I think it asks if you want to format it). I have tried on 4 different Windows XP & 2003 machines and all behave the same so it is obviously the Kaiser (or the ROM).
I have MS Voice Command installed and I think I read that this might be the problem, however I gave up in the end and carry a tiny microSD-USB adapter on a keyring so I can at least get access, even if I have to take the microSD out.
Andy
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Hmmm... I might give it a try then. Normally I use my card reader when I have big stuff to transfer, but it'd be nice to not have to physically move my card.
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It's faster than Activesync indeed, and maybe more importantly doesn't require it to be installed on the PC you want to transfer files from, but it's still MUCH slower than putting the card in a reader. The communication on the Kaiser's USB is done at USB1.1 speeds (~800kB/s max while a card in a reader usually results in 3-15MB/s depending on the card and reader).
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It's faster than Activesync indeed, and maybe more importantly doesn't require it to be installed on the PC you want to transfer files from, but it's still MUCH slower than putting the card in a reader. The communication on the Kaiser's USB is done at USB1.1 speeds (~800kB/s max while a card in a reader usually results in 3-15MB/s depending on the card and reader).
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Yes this was my findings exactly. If you can use the card reader then do because nothing comes close in terms of speed.
I'm using Total Commander 8.01 with ADB v6.9 plugin (latest as of now) and file transfers over the USB cable peaks at 1-1.5 MB/s. MTP mode over WinExplorer doesn't have transfer speeds displayed, but I'm perceiving them as about the same.
It's the same whether to/from phone or internal/external SD. Had both storages benchmarked within the phone (SD Tools on Market) and they averaged far above said speed, especially external SD which is UHS1. The USB ports on my computer are good and proper, besides the phone does the same on other machines.
Before someone asks, I have no convenience of wifi signal everywhere. Secondly, the phone is often charged over USB and I want to use the already present connection to transfer files.
Running Stock V20B.
Am I really the only one with this problem?
Starting the same 10 battery & boot probs threads a day is fine, but posting one reply here isn't. Come on, someone!
Maybe using another cable would solve this...?
I only copied files over USB once but it was indeed terribly slow. I don't recall exactly, but I think it was about 600kb/s.
I am not on stock and using Ubuntu. So the problem is not just your setup...
Edit: Ok, so I copied a rom to my device today, it went fast. 100mb in a few seconds...
Thank you for replying.
I tried another 10cm cable (minimal loss of signal), another computer, USB ports directly on motherboard (got to 2.5 MB/s on either storage) and no changes.
Maybe there is some setting in the phone I should turn on or off that I don't know about? I don't know what else to try, short of flashing a custom rom (no guarranties that would work at all).
I have USB debugging enabled today, don't know if i had this enabled before. You could try if this makes a difference?
Unfortunately, ADB plugin for TC requires debbuging enabled to function. I doubt it'll make a difference, but I'll try it with WExplorer in MTP mode.
Well, USB debbuging made no difference, but MTP mode reached 8-9 MB (better, but still way below what it should be), while ADB+TC says it creeps at ~3 MB.
Same file copied via MTP needs 3.5 mins and ADB plugin requires for stumping 16 minutes! And that's on extSD, not internal. So, ok, the TC plugin is a decomposing cadaver, fine, but that doesn't account for MTP's speed.