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no gps on wm6 google maps mobile

according to gmm the gps isn't set on the gps in the settings area of the wm. i recall seeing this option on wm5 but isn't present on wm6. it's probably a simple registry lookup if anyone can find a work around let me know.
WM6 Crossbow (WWE) for HTC Wizard v5.2.660

rhuie said:
according to gmm the gps isn't set on the gps in the settings area of the wm. i recall seeing this option on wm5 but isn't present on wm6. it's probably a simple registry lookup if anyone can find a work around let me know.
WM6 Crossbow (WWE) for HTC Wizard v5.2.660
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GPS didn't work for me in Google Maps even though it was set up and working correctly with TomTom Navigator. Though I am using WM5. If it is a reg hack to make those options show up in settings they might be in the wiki.

i saw it on another sub forum. i think universal. it is somewhere in the registry.

HKLM\Controlpanel\GPS Settings
Add value "Group" (dWord)
Value "2" (show) Delete "redirect" and "hide" completely (if its there)
to rehide enter value "1" (hide)

is that to enable GPS on WM6? can i use it on my 8125?

CLS_500 said:
is that to enable GPS on WM6? can i use it on my 8125?
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it puts the gps icon in the connection settings

Dammit! finally a question on this forum I actually had the answer to and several beat me to it! ;-)
Hopefully my musings will help someone or two setting this up anyway...
GMM seems to rely on the PPC "telling" it that it has a GPS, and where it is, instead of GMM "looking" for it, like most GPS software does.
The reg hack posted above will restore the GPS icon in Settings > Connections. Then you tell the utility what port your GPS is really on, and then setup what virtual port you want software to think it's on. (You can select "COM0-COM9" or "GD0-GD9- I assume the "GD" stands for GPS Device" and not what the hell is a G** D*** GD port?") Once you do this, Google Maps finds the GPS no problem.
I tried it GMM after "fixing" the GPS problem yesterday, and almost had my 8-year old son convinced the sat picture he was viewing was "live" until he noticed there was no snow in the on-screen "live camera" view of the Denver suburbs! ;-)
As a bonus, the GPS manager in WM allows you to use multiple GPS programs at once- (usually when a program connects to a COM port it gets exclusive access, but this virtual port is available to all programs.) It was a hoot switching between Mapopolis, GMM and MS Virtual Earth and comparing. (V Earth is slower downloading data over GPRS/EDGE compared to GMM, but I like having the street names superimposed over the aerial image.)
Weird heads-up in case you run into this- my usual GPS Nav software (Mapopolis) wouldn't see the GPS on the "fake" COM port unless I used one of the "GDx" ones. Any other "COMx" (other than the real one) wouldn't work. I suspect this is because Mapopolis probably checks the hardware directly for COMx ports rather than going through the OS, but is forced to go through WM for the virtual GDx ports that don't really exist in hardware, so sticking to a GDx port is probably best (it will also avoid accidentally selecting a virtual COM that conflicts with a real COM port like your IR port, etc.) I suspect the other major PPC Nav programs probably do the same as Mapopolis and go to the hardware directly since this virtual GPS port stuff is fairly new...
Hope I helped someone! ;-)

elecconnec said:
Dammit! finally a question on this forum I actually had the answer to and several beat me to it! ;-)
Hopefully my musings will help someone or two setting this up anyway...
GMM seems to rely on the PPC "telling" it that it has a GPS, and where it is, instead of GMM "looking" for it, like most GPS software does.
The reg hack posted above will restore the GPS icon in Settings > Connections. Then you tell the utility what port your GPS is really on, and then setup what virtual port you want software to think it's on. (You can select "COM0-COM9" or "GD0-GD9- I assume the "GD" stands for GPS Device" and not what the hell is a G** D*** GD port?") Once you do this, Google Maps finds the GPS no problem.
I tried it GMM after "fixing" the GPS problem yesterday, and almost had my 8-year old son convinced the sat picture he was viewing was "live" until he noticed there was no snow in the on-screen "live camera" view of the Denver suburbs! ;-)
As a bonus, the GPS manager in WM allows you to use multiple GPS programs at once- (usually when a program connects to a COM port it gets exclusive access, but this virtual port is available to all programs.) It was a hoot switching between Mapopolis, GMM and MS Virtual Earth and comparing. (V Earth is slower downloading data over GPRS/EDGE compared to GMM, but I like having the street names superimposed over the aerial image.)
Weird heads-up in case you run into this- my usual GPS Nav software (Mapopolis) wouldn't see the GPS on the "fake" COM port unless I used one of the "GDx" ones. Any other "COMx" (other than the real one) wouldn't work. I suspect this is because Mapopolis probably checks the hardware directly for COMx ports rather than going through the OS, but is forced to go through WM for the virtual GDx ports that don't really exist in hardware, so sticking to a GDx port is probably best (it will also avoid accidentally selecting a virtual COM that conflicts with a real COM port like your IR port, etc.) I suspect the other major PPC Nav programs probably do the same as Mapopolis and go to the hardware directly since this virtual GPS port stuff is fairly new...
Hope I helped someone! ;-)
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Thanks for this. I thought I did do this but only set up one of the tabs it's working perfectly now.

TomTom 6 Guide for HTC Kaiser (FAQ)

Here I compiled list of question and answer about using TomTom 6 with the HTC Kaiser. Forum Mods, if this is good enough, please make it sticky topic.
*** Which version of TomTom is in the Application CD?
6.032 (8351) - as of September 15, 2007
*** Is that full version or trial version?
It is called TomTom Taster Edition and It is full version, it will not expired, and there is no feature limitation compared to retail version.
*** Is it installed in the ROM by default?
No, it is not. You need to manually install it.
*** How to install it?
Connect to ActiveSync, from the HTC Kaiser Application CD, launch:
Installer_Kaiser_ttn_6_032_8351_HTC_WWE_20070716.EXE
*** I dont have that executable file in my HTC Kaiser Application CD!
Yes, you are not alone, probably you purchased North America version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329957
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327917&page=2
You can also download it here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/56585274/6_032_8351.rar (this link might not be permanent)
Or here (.CAB):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/9379xf (this link might not be permanent)
*** I have TomTom 6.030 (or prior version), what's the main difference?
6.032 has "Built-in Internal GPS" setting and the HTC Kaiser also have one.
*** Can I use/install other maps?
Yes you can. You can purchase additional maps (maps only), and then activate it.
*** Warning! Do not change the external GPS setting!
You should see "external GPS" icon in the Settings->System, do not change anything there.
You might need to hard-reset your device, more info:
http://www.modaco.com/word-warning-re-GPS-se-t258943.html
*** How can I use my own TomTom software?
So, you do not want to use TomTom from the Application CD.
Basically, you just need to install your own TomTom software and use this setting for the GPS:
- Other NMEA GPS receiver
- GPS baud rate = 4800
- GPS is connected to COM4:
For detailed information, check out here:
http://www.modaco.com/TomTom-Kaiser-t256790.html
*** How good is the internal GPS? Any problems?
From my own experience, it is working fine. Signal strength may vary and it depends on the situation (cloudy, clear sky, surounding area, buildings, etc.).
On average, I got satellite fix around 30 - 60 seconds.
However, some people experienced problems which you can follow here:
http://www.modaco.com/GPS-positioning-problems-t259285.html
Paul from MoDaCo.com, reported a bug
"The GPS bug seems to occur with some applications whereby the GPS 'data stream' will pause for a few seconds at a time, which makes some apps think the GPS has gone away (e.g. Google Maps) and other apps just update in sudden jumps rather than smoothly."
http://www.modaco.com/Paul-Reviews-HTC-P45-t256569.html
But, I think that problem is intermittent (randomly occur).
*** How about TomTom PLUS service?
Check out here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328444
*** TomTom always start with NO SOUND, why?
It's a bug, you have to switch off the data connection before starting TomTom.
SIMPLE FIX: Roll the volume wheel and sound turns on.
Thanks to all XDA-Dev users, Paul and other users from MoDaCo.com
Feel free to add more information in here

I added this thread to the wiki.

The above is all good info.
However, if you are having problems do not believe that the above is the only setup that will work.
I happen to use a bluetooth setup from time to time and have used the external GPS settings without problems.
A working setup for me for intermal GPS uses Other NMEA on COM 9 at a Baud Rate of 19200. In the Tomtom settings.
All other GPS programmes I use are set to COM9
When I setup the bluetooth I have it set to:
Serial Port (ticked)
Outgoing Port COM 9
Authentication (unchecked)
External GPS (in System menu)
(Perform a full backup before changes here - due to reports that changes here may ruin the GPS connection requiring a hard-reset to get it going again)
GPS Programme Port COM9
Hardware (None)
Access (Manage GPS automatically - ticked)
By the way the basic freeware plotting applications I use DO NOT require the clumsy workaround of starting tomtom in order to open the internal GPS. That problem seems to be limited to an issue with Google Maps.
NB
Other ports will work - eg COM0 but you must ensure that for example if you set outgoing port in bluetooth (if you also use BT GPS) to COM0 then it will also be COM0 in tomtom or any other GPS software. Any mismatch and you'll wait forever!
NB
In the tomtom satellite screen (the one that shows aseries of columns for each satellite - there is a useful verbal comment at the top of the screen it will say one of three things:
1
No GPS Device - (always says this initially for 2/3 seconds. If things are set correctly it will move to 2 but if your ports are wrongly set it will stay on this)
2
No Valid GPS Signal - (means it has found internal GPS device and is trying to find satellites - anything from 2 or 3 seconds to couple of minutes if you have not used Quick GPS, it will then move to 3 if you are in range of satellites)
3
Other NMEA GPS Receiver - (says this when locked on to satellites and working correctly)
The above 3 steps are useful to just check whether the setup and port is correct. Even if you do not want to use tomtom it's worth running it at least once just to iron out any port problems.
Mike

gogol said:
*** Can I use/install other maps?
Yes you can. You can purchase additional maps (maps only), and then activate it.
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How?
I copy the folders of others maps into the microsd, bit if i go to settings- change maps I can't see them! Then i can't put the code to activate them!
What i'm doing wrong?

teresa said:
How?
I copy the folders of others maps into the microsd, bit if i go to settings- change maps I can't see them! Then i can't put the code to activate them!
What i'm doing wrong?
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Use TomTom HOME program to install maps.
Richard

Thanks, very good thread indeed.

gogol said:
*** I dont have that executable file in my HTC Kaiser Application CD!
Yes, you are not alone, probably you purchased North America version.
You can also download it here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/56585274/6_032_8351.rar (this link might not be permanent)
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Tried to install this 6.032 version on my TyTN II but got the following error on the device upon starting the installation: "Setup Error: Unable to install application. Please update your device ROM to the required version before trying again." - any ideas? Thanks ...
Would be happy to pay for the software / maps if they wouldn't it make all that difficult to get it installed for a trial ...

Maybe this is a dumb question, but I can't get the On board GPS to kick up and when I look under settings, the only thing there is "External GPS"....
How do you get it to use the internal GPS?

trjons said:
Maybe this is a dumb question, but I can't get the On board GPS to kick up and when I look under settings, the only thing there is "External GPS"....
How do you get it to use the internal GPS?
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Are you sure u installed 6.032 Tom Tom release? Is the version caming with CD and is not in Tom Tom web. Is the only version that works with internal GPS; but youet guy. can have problems to install it, if you have a previous version.

There is no "internal GPS" icon in the "Settings", only "external GPS"
And dont mess around with the "external GPS", you might need to hard-reset.
TomTom 6.032 has its own setting to use the "internal GPS".
trjons said:
Maybe this is a dumb question, but I can't get the On board GPS to kick up and when I look under settings, the only thing there is "External GPS"....
How do you get it to use the internal GPS?
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galahor said:
Are you sure u installed 6.032 Tom Tom release? Is the version caming with CD and is not in Tom Tom web. Is the only version that works with internal GPS; but youet guy. can have problems to install it, if you have a previous version.
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I would disagree with that. Other versions of tomtom DO work. But in tomtom's "configure" select other NMEA instead of internal GPS
Mike

mikechannon said:
I would disagree with that. Other versions of tomtom DO work. But in tomtom's "configure" select other NMEA instead of internal GPS
Mike
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I agree. I wanted say is the only version capable to tune internal GPS from Tom Tom program. I know versions 6, 6.02 and 6.03 works with othen NMEA and port 4, but my impresion is with internal get satellites faster.

Is there a way for TomTom to give the vocal instruction through the Bluetooth headset ?
Thanks
Jean-Yves

Anyone get a wrong rom error when installing 6.032? UK T-Mob.

Yes me too

As I understood, the T-Mobile version does not have TomTom Taster edition included in the application CD, correct???
If that's the case, I am afraid that the TomTom 6.032 from the HTC Kaiser "unlocked" version is a special build only for that unlocked model.
Just use 6.030, it works fine (read in the FAQ).

Yeah i guess if the rom numbers dont match up, it wont let you install. Not on Taster CD.
Using 60.30 now 8)

No TOMTOM love...
My Kaiser just showed up today and there' no TOMTOM on the apps cd.
What gives?
helm

I installed the Tom Tom and the one free Map, but I still have the same issue I had with Google maps of having to run GPS Viewer to start up the GPS.
I'm sure its a configuration issue for Tom Tom but I can't figure out what the problem is.

You got problem with Google maps and you thought that is TomTom configuration issue? ...
trjons said:
I installed the Tom Tom and the one free Map, but I still have the same issue I had with Google maps of having to run GPS Viewer to start up the GPS.
I'm sure its a configuration issue for Tom Tom but I can't figure out what the problem is.
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Internal GPS in Google MAPS

Hi all,
I'm trying to use google maps with the internal GPS but the program say me that not founds any gps. How I must set the device?
Thank's

try to jumpstart your GPS with GPSview then start googlemaps. this might work.

Sorry but...
what is GPSview? It's an external application?

madness974 said:
Hi all,
I'm trying to use google maps with the internal GPS but the program say me that not founds any gps. How I must set the device?
Thank's
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works fine for me when setting the port to 4 and and baudrate to 4800 in Google maps

In START>Setting>EXTERNAL GPS
I have this setting:
programs (TAB) - DATA PORT GPS: COM4
hardware (TAB) - hardware GPS port: none
- baud 4800
Access (TAB) - Automatic GPS control (DEFAULT)
I set in google map COM4 and baud 4800, but don't work
Sorry, but I've the TYTN II fron 2 days

Use any GPS Application like TomTom to start the GPS and then switch to google maps without closing TomTom. This should work.
Goole Maps doesn't wait always long enough for a gps signal.
Special2k3

Ok, thank to all for reply, now I'll try...

Keep retrying till the gps gets the fix. If you get the fix with another application and then try with google maps, it will be very fast.

SOLVED
Tnx all
All solved!
All default and google maps work perfectly, without open other GPS application!!!

How, exactly, did you solve it?

that's bloody annoying he didnt share the love - i have the same problem!

I noticed that gps doesn't work when you're sitting at home. I've never had it failed on me when I was in the car, specially when the car was moving.
I used google map's and the gps feature to take me through an hour of traffic coming home from work.

GPS
I start up my GPS with GPS Photo to initialize(takes time to load) then open Google Map.
Hope this helps

Will givethe gps foto thing a go - good thinking!

Its amazing after 2 days wifi gps sniffing how many wireless AP there are
http://www.blackfire.be/maps/
GPS Photo works well also

little_rock said:
that's bloody annoying he didnt share the love - i have the same problem!
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Here is what worked for me.
Goto Settings>System>External GPS, use the Kaiser defaults of GPS program port=COM4, Hardware=None, Baud rate=4800, Enable "Manage GPS automatically."
Run quickgps and download the current ephermis ?spelling data. This speeds up the time to first satellite lock.
Go outside, preferably open location with clear view of the sky.
Run gpsPhoto from the Camera app.
Allow a few minutes to obtain first satellite lock.
Once you have a satellite lock you can close the Camera app and open Google Maps and change Menu>Options>Track Location Settings to "Set by Windows". Press the OK left softkey.
Press the Right Menu softkey and select Track Location.
Bingo you should have a Satellite Lock and Google Maps should center on your location.
I only had to do this procedure once as Google Maps now aquires a lock in seconds. The Kaiser gps works better indoors than my 2 previous Blutooth GPS units, I can see which room of my house I am in. As with all GPS devices it works better in an open environment free from reflections from buildings and free from Tree cover. I am really impressed with the Kaiser GPS.

you rock dude

SOLVED
Sorry to all for my tardive reply
I've solved the problem simply without change nothing.
All default, and launcing google maps the gps start automatically (if not, initialize it with any gps software, like tomtom, gps photo, etc).
BUT - IMPORTANT
Google maps function well in open spaces, I tried it in closed, so, don't worked.
In open space, all ok, it's work fine.
N.B. I've an italian version of O.S. :
CE 5.2.1620 (build 18125.0.4.2)
Rom 1.56.408.5
Data Rom 08/28/07
Vers. Radio 1.27.12.11
Vers. prot. 22.45.88.07H
I feel it can help someone.
Thank's to all for your help and interesting

wizzzard said:
Here is what worked for me.
Goto Settings>System>External GPS, use the Kaiser defaults of GPS program port=COM4, Hardware=None, Baud rate=4800, Enable "Manage GPS automatically."
Run quickgps and download the current ephermis ?spelling data. This speeds up the time to first satellite lock.
Go outside, preferably open location with clear view of the sky.
Run gpsPhoto from the Camera app.
Allow a few minutes to obtain first satellite lock.
Once you have a satellite lock you can close the Camera app and open Google Maps and change Menu>Options>Track Location Settings to "Set by Windows". Press the OK left softkey.
Press the Right Menu softkey and select Track Location.
Bingo you should have a Satellite Lock and Google Maps should center on your location.
I only had to do this procedure once as Google Maps now aquires a lock in seconds. The Kaiser gps works better indoors than my 2 previous Blutooth GPS units, I can see which room of my house I am in. As with all GPS devices it works better in an open environment free from reflections from buildings and free from Tree cover. I am really impressed with the Kaiser GPS.
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You said something very interesting here...you said you can see which room you're in. How is that? more of a curiosity thing than a useful thing but I guess it could be handy in large buildings (assuming you can get a fix).

Also, FYI, the new Google Maps is much better at waiting for the GPS to fire up. The timeout value is much more forgiving. I've noticed in the new Gmaps, It just works now.

Another GPS Help Me Topic

This is just my last resort I suppose. I recently flashed to NATF's v4.4 and 1.11.25.01 radio plus installed Google Maps on my att Fuze.
But when I go to locate myself Google Maps tells me "Your current location is temporarily unavailable". Sweet.
So what have I done thus far?
I've looked around and I've done the Advance config tweaks.
I've updated my Quick GPS.
I've ran the HTC GPS Tool (I honestly have no clue what I am looking at here lol but I do get a Mode 2: Not Fix thingy) for about 2 hours hoping for *something* to pop up.
Finally, I've done the GPS Test version 1.04 but it maintains itself at "Looking for GPS unit.
I've soft reset, hard reset and cried.
Is there anything else I'm missing? Any help would be mucho appreciated, thanks!

Hi Coola,
I am using the standard HTC-ROM.
0) First of all, I am not sure whether your GPS unit is working in your phone.
But assuming that the hardware is still OK do the following:
1) Go to settings > System > external GPS.
Check if all options are still normal.
Program port is COM4.
Hardware port : none.
Baudrate : 4800.
Access: Check automated GPS control.
NOTE that an external connected GPS (e.g. Bluetooth device) unit will have a baudrate of 4800. The internal which resides at Com4 has a standard baudrate of 57600. These settings need to be checked to make sure they are still this way and it will also give Windows automated control of the GPS system.
2) You need to install Advanced Config 3.3.
http://www.touchxperience.com/fr/out…ol-32-cab.html
With Advanced config 3.3 under GPS:
1. disable A-GPS
2. disable GPS logging
3. logfile name must be empty
4. old logfile name must be empty
5. maximum size of logfile must be 0
6 delete the files : \windows\GPSLogFile.txt and \windows\GPSLogFileBack.txt
After these settings the tool will soft-reset your mobile.
3) Then edit registry with TotalCommander
http://ghisler.fileburst.com/ce/tcmdpocketarm.cab
Don't make any errors here, check your steps carefully.
These values seem to work fine and give you a much quicker fix.
Under: HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\
- Drivers\GpsOneDevice\PollInterval -> 100 (default is 1000)
- Drivers\InputBufferSize -> 512 (default is 4096)
- Drivers\OutputBufferSize -> 512 (default is 4096)
- Drivers\SleepOnNoData -> 100 (default is 1000)
- Multiplexer\MaxBufferSize -> 512 (by default not present, you have to create it, make a Dword value)
After these settings are in place, restart / soft reset your device.
4) Run the program QuickGPSfix and download the new data.
This step needs to be repeated anytime it is outdated.
5) Download and install the HTC GPS Tool.
http://rapidshare.com/files/84815853...C_GPS_TOOL.cab
Upon starting it should show COM4 and a Baudrate of 57600.
Go outside the house, preferably with good wheather.
Hit the "Open"
Hit the "Nav. Int."
Leave all as is, no need to change the options.
You should now start to see the GPS data flow over your screen in the grey area. Wait patiently, the first fix can take up to 10 minutes (afterwards it wil go faster). If it fails it sometimes seems to help to move around a little bit and to reboot your device if it takes way to long.
See if you have any red bars below the satellite numbers (signal strength per satellite) When you get a fix, the bars and satellites to which it is connected will show up green. If there are no red bars here, no data flow etc then there is something wrong with the ROM / radio combination and your phone.
Close this program if you have a fix.
6) Start-up Google maps. Wait for it to download the basic map information, so you don't have any interference from the "now downloading data" message. Then start the GPS use. Fix should now go fast. Once it has a fix you can start moving towards your destiny.
From now on use HTC GPS tool to get a fix.
Close this program, start the program with which you want to use GPS.
Good luck, Jouke.

Coola said:
This is just my last resort I suppose. I recently flashed to NATF's v4.4 and 1.11.25.01 radio plus installed Google Maps on my att Fuze.
But when I go to locate myself Google Maps tells me "Your current location is temporarily unavailable". Sweet.
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the location Google Maps is trying to get is from the "cell towers", make sure your selecting com4 or MS controled Gps. In other words , google trys to locate with towers first. Then if you select to use GPS, it will try using your Gps setting under options. If you already know all this, then disregard my post, if not, then I hope it helps!

Ah I see what I did wrong. Thank you guys for the clairification!
I had previously made all of these tweaks and I did see some green bars but it never said fixed, which I assumed it would.
I did the HTC GPS Tool and booted up Google maps and voila! It found me
Thank you thank you thank you!

Request: GPS software with MGRS(WGS84) display

I have been looking for this software for a while now, but currently none is really providing what i need.
I need a simple software program (somewhat like HTC GPS Tool) in the form of a cab, not like LocViewer, which is in Java and bugs out sometimes (also doesnt display correct MGRS format)
something like this:
http://www.gorissen.info/Pierre/maps/googleMapLocation.php
combined with this site:
http://www.arsitech.com/mapping/mgrs/
but than converted to a somewhat more mobile friendly enviroment.
the idea of that site is exactly what i need.
Possible to enable/use Google maps to have an idea of your surrounding.
but mainly being able to display MGRS (WGS84) coordinates.
Example:
My current location (resp. lat/lon): 51.969005 / 6.738310
Converted to MGRS WGS 84: 32U LC 44636 600007
if someone could help me out with that, i'd be very gratefull!
for those more knowledgable about GPS etc.
the site also refers to the following table:
http://www.arsitech.com/mapping/geodetic_datum/#WGS 84

*bump*
is there no one who can help me out with this?

Muskokatech Pathaway GPS Pro. It costs 100 dollars... only program I have found that can show MGRS.