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Compact Flash Card reader for Ameo

Hiya,
I was wondering if any one has managed to get a Compact Flash memory card reader working with the 4 in 1 cable,
If so could you please share the details.
Cheers.

Just tested this on my Ameo - I plugged a cheapo multi card reader into the 4 in 1 cable, soft resetted (via software, not the reset hole), and it works fine - I can now hot swop sd cards and cf cards, and they show up as 'hard drive' in the file explorer.

Won't work with a CFII Microdrive though - draws too much current, pitty ;->

Oliver_T said:
Won't work with a CFII Microdrive though - draws too much current, pitty ;->
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Won't work with a powered USB hub ?

Softick Card Export

Is there any alternative for softick card export. WM5 storage don't seem to work on the kaiser.

Install trail version of Softick and then install WM5 1.8
joe mboule said:
Is there any alternative for softick card export. WM5 storage don't seem to work on the kaiser.
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Install trail version of Softick and then install WM5 1.8. USe Softtick once and then start using wm5storage. this is been working with my tilt. even after softtick expired.
HTH

I tried WM5torage and wasn't able to get it to work with my ROM. My understanding is that it will work IF you have the drivers to support the usb drive connection already, since WM5storage doesn't have them... so it really depends on your OS. I purchased a Softick license and I must say that it works perfectly. The difference is that Softick comes with the usb drivers.
My guess is that by installing the Softick trial, WM5torage can access the softick drivers.

Card Export II is well worth the small price. And I find the interface better than the WM5storage.

Pocket Controller Pro?

using softkick, is it normal for it to take 1 hour to transfer a 1.7gig file onto a 6gig sandisk card inside my tytn ii?

Mine wasn't quite that long. I just moved 1.26GB of music file and it took about 26 minutes.

briggs81 said:
using softkick, is it normal for it to take 1 hour to transfer a 1.7gig file onto a 6gig sandisk card inside my tytn ii?
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Softick doesn't advertise the transfer rate of Cardexport II.
USB Full Speed (1.1) ~1.5MB/S => 1.7GB file would take about 19mins theoretically.
USB High Speed (2.0) ~60MB/S => 1.7GB file would take about 30secs.
You rarely see these theoretical speeds because of so many variables to both computers as to how fast they read and/or write. I'd say your "real" speeds suggest something close to a slow USB 1.1 connection

I see.
Vista was telling me it was going at 444kb/sec and about 54 minutes to transfer all of it (accordign to vista, but that doesn't really mean much)
I mean, normally it would have taken 2-3 hours if i wasnt using this little app.
Cool idea, just not worth the money to spend on I guess if i could just take 3 seconds to pop out sd card and put it into reader/usb port.
Darn, was lookin pretty cool at first!

briggs81 said:
I see.
Cool idea, just not worth the money to spend on I guess if i could just take 3 seconds to pop out sd card and put it into reader/usb port.
Darn, was lookin pretty cool at first!
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Thats one of the selling factors for me. I don't have to carry or have access to a card reader when I'm away from the house. I can take it to work, friends houses and on vacation and be able to transfer files without the card reader. Most computers don't have card readers but about every computer now has a USB port you can plug into. Then it gets even more complicated with microSDHC as most existing card readers can't read them so then you'd be forced to carry a reader with you.

I got it to work for a few days, but suddently this app just keeps disconnecting and switch back to activesync. I have tried plenty of way of connecting it in Card-Export, but it just keeps switching back to activesync. Very sad. Can some gurus here pls share if you have similiar experience? thnks

USB to PC a Disk Drive mode

Hi There,
i have been searching for a while now but i could not find it anywhere.
is there a tool for the tytn II thats makes it possible to connect it to the computer and that you get a menu with the following:
active sync
disk drive mode
internet sharing
just like the diamond.
on my rom i only have these 2 options
active sync
internet sharing

on my rom i only have these 2 options
active sync
internet sharing
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That's because on the Kaiser nothing but the CardExport program manages to emulate disk drive mode.

Is the disk drive mode that CardExport gives you noticeably better than just exploring the phone when it's plugged in normally? I know when you do it that way it threatens to convert your files when you copy them over, but in my experience it never actually does.

The only time I used disk drive mode on my Hermes was so I could charge it via my PS3 usb port since I spend a considerable amount of time next to my PS3 (my ps3 is next to my theater chair since I have a 122" projection screen and the Projector and surround sound system - and PS3 - are next to the chairs in the back of the room.)
I haven't tried it on my Kaiser since when I got the Kaiser it came with another charger which I placed there so I don't need the PS3 to charge anymore.
I'd be interested to see if it would increase the transfer speed though.. my God is it slow..

There is one utility 'nueMassStorage' that is supposed to do this, however I can't get it to work. I have it cooked into my rom and it does indeed present you with the option of ActiveSync or Mass Storage when you connect it to a PC via USB. ActiveSync works as normal but unfortunately I can't get the Mass Storage to work - it appears as a drive but Windows can't open it.
Maybe you can have more luck with it? Its available here as an OEM package to cook into a ROM or as a .cab to install.
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueMassStorage.aspx
Andy

I think that's cooked into the HyperDragon III Raphael ROM.. I'll test it out later.. I only ever hit the active sync button since I don't like transferring over USB due to the ridiculously slow connection.

try WM5torage

dancj said:
Is the disk drive mode that CardExport gives you noticeably better than just exploring the phone when it's plugged in normally? I know when you do it that way it threatens to convert your files when you copy them over, but in my experience it never actually does.
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Yes its MUCH faster.

vernoncomph said:
try WM5torage
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does not work on kaiser unless you hack in the cardexport driver.

l3it3r said:
I think that's cooked into the HyperDragon III Raphael ROM.. I'll test it out later.. I only ever hit the active sync button since I don't like transferring over USB due to the ridiculously slow connection.
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I'd like to know how they got this working? I have tried all the USB memory card utilities I could find (WM5torage, Card Export and nueMassStorage) and I can't get any of them to work. WM5Torage just doesn't work at all, Card Export & nueMassStorage seem to exhibit the same behaviour where they activate and Windows sees a storage card but can't access it (I think it asks if you want to format it). I have tried on 4 different Windows XP & 2003 machines and all behave the same so it is obviously the Kaiser (or the ROM).
I have MS Voice Command installed and I think I read that this might be the problem, however I gave up in the end and carry a tiny microSD-USB adapter on a keyring so I can at least get access, even if I have to take the microSD out.
Andy

Nope, nevermind. PLugged it in and it's just active sync or internet sharing.. I can't remember where I saw that... might have been another phone I was using.. lol..

rmg said:
Yes its MUCH faster.
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Same here, much faster for big files like TomTom maps.

rmg said:
Yes its MUCH faster.
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Hmmm... I might give it a try then. Normally I use my card reader when I have big stuff to transfer, but it'd be nice to not have to physically move my card.

ADB100 said:
There is one utility 'nueMassStorage' that is supposed to do this, however I can't get it to work. I have it cooked into my rom and it does indeed present you with the option of ActiveSync or Mass Storage when you connect it to a PC via USB. ActiveSync works as normal but unfortunately I can't get the Mass Storage to work - it appears as a drive but Windows can't open it.
Maybe you can have more luck with it? Its available here as an OEM package to cook into a ROM or as a .cab to install.
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueMassStorage.aspx
Andy
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thnx mate i'm gonna try this tool
as for wm5torage even after finetuning the program it still het stuck

Damn it does not work

softick's card export 3.15
i'm using softick's card export II ver3.15 with Win XP PRO SP3
it's working fine
CEII actually started kaiser support with ver3.12.....that was working fine too...
i'm on Hyperdragon's lite rom

I have Voice COmmand instlled as well, and Card EXport worked fine for me.. I used it as a thumb drive with ym car stereo (atleast during the free trial) and it worked great.. my comptuer saw the phone as a USB drive as well.... I got the stock at&t 6.0 rom with the bloatware removed and lots of extra programs isntalled... Running Vista ultimate x64 edition....
ADB100 said:
I'd like to know how they got this working? I have tried all the USB memory card utilities I could find (WM5torage, Card Export and nueMassStorage) and I can't get any of them to work. WM5Torage just doesn't work at all, Card Export & nueMassStorage seem to exhibit the same behaviour where they activate and Windows sees a storage card but can't access it (I think it asks if you want to format it). I have tried on 4 different Windows XP & 2003 machines and all behave the same so it is obviously the Kaiser (or the ROM).
I have MS Voice Command installed and I think I read that this might be the problem, however I gave up in the end and carry a tiny microSD-USB adapter on a keyring so I can at least get access, even if I have to take the microSD out.
Andy
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dancj said:
Hmmm... I might give it a try then. Normally I use my card reader when I have big stuff to transfer, but it'd be nice to not have to physically move my card.
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It's faster than Activesync indeed, and maybe more importantly doesn't require it to be installed on the PC you want to transfer files from, but it's still MUCH slower than putting the card in a reader. The communication on the Kaiser's USB is done at USB1.1 speeds (~800kB/s max while a card in a reader usually results in 3-15MB/s depending on the card and reader).

kilrah said:
It's faster than Activesync indeed, and maybe more importantly doesn't require it to be installed on the PC you want to transfer files from, but it's still MUCH slower than putting the card in a reader. The communication on the Kaiser's USB is done at USB1.1 speeds (~800kB/s max while a card in a reader usually results in 3-15MB/s depending on the card and reader).
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Yes this was my findings exactly. If you can use the card reader then do because nothing comes close in terms of speed.

Kaiser slow USB PC to PDA data transfer

hi
i boght my Kaiser form a friend about 3 days ago and it has hyperdragon IV (september 2008 release) ROM on it.
my complain about it is that the data transfer between pc and fone is very slow. it takes about 17-20 minutes to copy a 175mb file on the fone's SD HC 4gb card (while the card is in the fone). i connect the fone in ActiveSync mode.
in SETTINGS/CONNECTION/USB TO PC i cannot select the option DISK DRIVE as it says that this option need a memory card in the device and it asks me to insert the card. the card is already there, i have files and programs installed on it. what can i do to speed up my transfers?
thanks in advance.

daJudge2010 said:
hi
i boght my Kaiser form a friend about 3 days ago and it has hyperdragon IV (september 2008 release) ROM on it.
my complain about it is that the data transfer between pc and fone is very slow. it takes about 17-20 minutes to copy a 175mb file on the fone's SD HC 4gb card (while the card is in the fone). i connect the fone in ActiveSync mode.
in SETTINGS/CONNECTION/USB TO PC i cannot select the option DISK DRIVE as it says that this option need a memory card in the device and it asks me to insert the card. the card is already there, i have files and programs installed on it. what can i do to speed up my transfers?
thanks in advance.
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To be honest 17-20 minutes for 175MB doesn't sound that far out. Transfer speeds will be less than USB 1.1. If its just small files I use ActiveSync, if its anything big (Maps etc) then I use a Micro-SD/USB memory card reader which is much, much faster.
As for your issues with the DISK DRIVE option in the USB connection settings I would post for help in the HyperDragon thread (or search the thread first...)
Andy

ADB100 said:
I would post for help in the HyperDragon thread (or search the thread first...)
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I agree with Andy, that's a question for that ROM's thread. I'm running a 6.5 rom and have the same problem.
USB1.1 is slow and it's the nature of the beast. If you're going to transfer a lot of files, pull the MicroSD and buzz the files over manually.

With ActiveSync is normal speed ...if you want more speed you can use a version of Softick Card Export and you can transfer with 700-800 KB/s ...and if you want much more speed use a card reader.

i understand what r saying . but i must correct u : on GSMARENA it says that the fone has USB 2.0.

The phone is USB2.0 compliant, meaning it can be used on a USB2.0 host, but that doesn't mean it supports the "hi-speed" mode added by USB2.0. And it indeed doesn't.

I think is something strange with data transfer using USB ...probably antothers missing drivers ...I don't know.
Extract from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usb :
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USB supports following data rates:
* The Full Speed rate of 12 Mbit/s (1.5 MB/s) is the basic USB data rate defined by USB 1.1. All USB hubs support Full Speed.
* A Low Speed rate of 1.5 Mbit/s (187.5 kB/s) is defined by USB 1.0. It is very similar to full speed operation except that each bit takes 8 times as long to transmit. It is intended primarily to save cost in low-bandwidth Human Interface Devices (HID) such as keyboards, mice, and joysticks.
* A High-Speed (USB 2.0) rate of 480 Mbit/s (60 MB/s) was introduced in 2001. All high-speed devices are capable of falling back to full-speed operation if necessary.
Experimental data rate:
* A SuperSpeed (USB 3.0) rate of 5.0 Gbit/s (625 MB/s). The USB 3.0 specification was released by Intel and its partners in August 2008, according to early reports from CNET news. Products using the 3.0 specification are expected to arrive in 2009 or 2010.
So , using my device in USB mass storage mode I can transfer with 1/2 from the full speed rate of USB 1.1
kilrah said:
The phone is USB2.0 compliant, meaning it can be used on a USB2.0 host, but that doesn't mean it supports the "hi-speed" mode added by USB2.0. And it indeed doesn't.
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I think USB2.0 means hi-speed, if it not supports it isn't USB 2.0 ....is USB 1.1 or USB 1.0 ...maybe I'm wrong ...but if somebody have more knowledges about USB please corect me.

Not quite so black and white
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I think USB2.0 means hi-speed, if it not supports it isn't USB 2.0 ....is USB 1.1 or USB 1.0 ...maybe I'm wrong ...but if somebody have more knowledges about USB please corect me.
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These days USB 2.0 is pretty much synonymous with Hi Speed but when USB 2.0 first came out it could also mean 'Full Speed' and you had to be careful not to get 'tricked' into a 'Full Speed' (vs. Hi Speed) bit of kit.
This topic has been done to death in several threads, heres one I contributed to slow copying to SD card Note the fact that it's not so much the USB hardware limitations that cause it to be as slow as treacle, it's the huge bottleneck that Microsoft (in)Activesync imposes (hence why copying to a card reader on a USB 1.1 port is still much faster than using Activesync via a USB 2.0 Port). Activesync is really a major weakness with Microsofts Mobile Phone OS Strategy IMO.

breakx said:
I think USB2.0 means hi-speed, if it not supports it isn't USB 2.0 ....is USB 1.1 or USB 1.0 ...maybe I'm wrong ...but if somebody have more knowledges about USB please corect me.
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Well I just said it above!
USB2.0 includes all 3 speeds, low, full and high. So a device that only uses full speed is included in the standard. Compliance with USB2.0 means that the device will work on an USB2.0 concentrator, that's all. This because at the beginning of USB2.0 you usually had both USB2.0 and USB1.1 ports on computers, and some USB1.1 devices would not work if connected to USB2.0 ports due to stricter timing requirements.
People now assume that USB2.0 = High speed, but as Flying Kiwi said it it's only because it is true in the majority of cases, in the books it's not a requirement.

HDD not found

Hello
Yesterday I installed in my HTC Shift Photofast a G-Monster 1.8 "ZIF V2 128GB. SSD has been detected. During the installation Win7, actually almost the end, there was a error message: disk were not available etc. Rebooted. In the Bios was detected something. Just stood HDD1, no information, no producers, etc. Off. Cable tested for SSD. Still some time out and clean again. In the BIOS again without HDD1 info. Old HDD installed. The same HDD1: no info. Line from the Shift and expanded in an external HDD enclosure installed and tested on a different computer. HDD is detected. SSD is not recognized. Then again installed in the Lapi. Now the field is left blank. Do not stand HDD1 times. Whether by SSD or HDD. USB stick and USB CD Rom drive detected in bios and also work.
I have tried to withdraw BIOS battery overnight. without success
Now is the Shift out or even something you can test / check?
Greeting
Paul
P.S.: sorry for my bad english

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Hello
Yesterday I installed in my HTC Shift Photofast a G-Monster 1.8 "ZIF V2 128GB. SSD has been detected. During the installation Win7, actually almost the end, there was a error message: disk were not available etc. Rebooted. In the Bios was detected something. Just stood HDD1, no information, no producers, etc. Off. Cable tested for SSD. Still some time out and clean again. In the BIOS again without HDD1 info. Old HDD installed. The same HDD1: no info. Line from the Shift and expanded in an external HDD enclosure installed and tested on a different computer. HDD is detected. SSD is not recognized. Then again installed in the Lapi. Now the field is left blank. Do not stand HDD1 times. Whether by SSD or HDD. USB stick and USB CD Rom drive detected in bios and also work.
I have tried to withdraw BIOS battery overnight. without success
Now is the Shift out or even something you can test / check?
Greeting
Paul
P.S.: sorry for my bad english
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Make sure the circular ribbon cable did not tear. This may be your problem. This is the only thing I can think of. I had all sorts of problems when I installed my SSD. But after going in a few times and actuallysecuring the ribbon cable properly to my drive, I was able to get it recognized and able to install Windows, although, mine is the Kingspec 128GB SSD.
I hope this helps, just make sure that the cable is inserted properly, all the way in, and it is secured.
Thanks!
PS
Did you see there is 2GB of RAM available to the SHIFT? It is offered by Mem-Store on Ebay. Please check the Shift's RAM thread for more details. I have bought and installed the module myself. I left them excellent feedback, my username being guyyyy!
Take care!

Hello
I tested it again. Connector is faulty. The defective point can not find. With a standard 40 pin ZIF connector it works. I ask for Connector at HTC. But I do not have much hope.
Photofast SSD I sold on Ebay. Can you recommend a good (possible cheap) SSD? 64GB is enough.
Paul
P.S.: 2GB of RAM I have already seen. I will definitely buy

HerrMausD said:
Hello
I tested it again. Connector is faulty. The defective point can not find. With a standard 40 pin ZIF connector it works. I ask for Connector at HTC. But I do not have much hope.
Photofast SSD I sold on Ebay. Can you recommend a good (possible cheap) SSD? 64GB is enough.
Paul
P.S.: 2GB of RAM I have already seen. I will definitely buy
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The only experience I have are with the Kingspec. I had a friend install a Kingspec in his as well. I am not sure if they offer in a lower capacity though. Check ebay. Just type HTC SHIFT and sort by price, highest to lowest.
Go all the way to the lower priced items. This way you can either find the cable you need, OR a cheaper SSD. I hope you find what you are looking for.
This is the best advice I can give, as this is older hardware.
Take care and all the best.
Luis

What about this one?
RunCore Pro IV 1.8" 5mm PATA Zif Solid State Drive SSD
16GB-128GB
MPN 16GB: RCP-IV-Z1816-C
32GB: RCP-IV-Z1832-C
64GB: RCP-IV-Z1864-C
128GB: RCP-IV-Z1828-C
Capacity 16GB, 32GB, 64GB, 128GB
Cache 16GB, 32GB: 32MB
64GB, 128GB: 64MB
Interface ZIF
NAND Flash MLC
Write Rate Max* 75MB/s
Read Rate Max* 85MB/s
Random 4K Read Rate* 21MB/s
Random 4K Write Rate* 18MB/s
Operation Temperature 0° C to 70° C
Dimension 1.8" 71mm x 54mm x 5mm
Weight* < 40g
Data Retention 10 Years
ECC Correction 10,000 R/W
Power Consumption* Operation Mode: I<250 mA Voltage: 3.3V
Sleep Mode: I<150mA Voltage: 3.3V
Reliability 6,12 bytes/sector correctable by RS mode
8, 12,16 bits/sector correctable by BCH mode
Fully compliant with ATA-7 Standard
PIO, DMA, UDMA (up to 6, dependant on host) supported
Extended Custom Unique ID

HerrMausD said:
What about this one?
RunCore Pro IV 1.8" 5mm PATA Zif Solid State Drive SSD
16GB-128GB
MPN 16GB: RCP-IV-Z1816-C
32GB: RCP-IV-Z1832-C
64GB: RCP-IV-Z1864-C
128GB: RCP-IV-Z1828-C
Capacity 16GB, 32GB, 64GB, 128GB
Cache 16GB, 32GB: 32MB
64GB, 128GB: 64MB
Interface ZIF
NAND Flash MLC
Write Rate Max* 75MB/s
Read Rate Max* 85MB/s
Random 4K Read Rate* 21MB/s
Random 4K Write Rate* 18MB/s
Operation Temperature 0° C to 70° C
Dimension 1.8" 71mm x 54mm x 5mm
Weight* < 40g
Data Retention 10 Years
ECC Correction 10,000 R/W
Power Consumption* Operation Mode: I<250 mA Voltage: 3.3V
Sleep Mode: I<150mA Voltage: 3.3V
Reliability 6,12 bytes/sector correctable by RS mode
8, 12,16 bits/sector correctable by BCH mode
Fully compliant with ATA-7 Standard
PIO, DMA, UDMA (up to 6, dependant on host) supported
Extended Custom Unique ID
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That sounds right, because reading this forum the Heigth of the SSD needs to be no more than 5mm. This is where you need to be the most aware. Many standard drives that come in the 1.8 form factor have heigths of 8-9mm and those will cause you to have problems closing the shift (If I read correctly throughout this forum) So you need to make sure the heigth so these you listed look good.
I am not familiar with Runcore brand, but I wasn't with King Spec either, and it is working Exceptionally.
Take care and I hope this helps.