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oil stain under touch screen

heey fellow forum readers,
i hace got a oil stain under my screen
can somone tell me what it can be?
thnxs fore the info

Hello my friend.
Well actually that is very bad news. If you are inside the guarantee go to your dealer because this is a hardware and manufacture problem. Its a common problem on the latest hi res touch screens for htc.
I have the HTC touch diamond and i have the "Oily square of death" which is a like a rectangle just in the middle of the screen which looks like oil. My be your screen has become less responsive, some are reporting that with the time the screen goes completly useless and does not work at all.
There is no way you can fix it by yourself. I know its hard to know, still is a common problem So sad my friend.
Regards-

Bad situation. Sorry to hear that.
I dropped my TD2 to the ground today and i was very scared. I hope its okay.

this is caused by too much pressure on the screen by for example carrying the phone in your pocket and sitting down. i had the same problem and abviously the screen lowered itself into the phonecase. have a look on the phone sidewards and i think you will notice the same. i had luck and had an guarantee exchange. but normaly htc does not cover screen problems! take care with that phone.. even the manual says.. dont carry it in the pocket and sit down.. which is quite ridicolous for a mobile phone isnt it?

I had a dust particle under the touch screen (between the touch screen and display).
I've took the phone to my designated service (which was not an original HTC service) and they've cleaned it up. Now it's ok.
Maybe you should do the same.

thnxs
thnxs fore the reactions
i have contacted my phoneshop
the said it is a commen problem and it wil be cofferd
thnxs fore al the tips and help

Hmmm... I have the smae on my T-Mo Compact V.. wonder if they will cover it?

POSSIBLE SOLUTION!!!!
I fixed the very problem you guys are having with duct tape. Yes duct tape. The problem is not that the layers are separated, but that they are stuck together. So basically, your phone is acting as if it's continually being pressed, I put duct tape on the screen and gently removed it. I had to do this about twenty times, but eventually it separated the layers and the phone works like new. I know it sounds crazy, but it worked. I am aware of one other person who has had success with this method. I saw him post it on another forum. I believe this method will work for many of you so please try it and please be patient. As I said, it took several adhesions and removals before it worked.

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POSSIBLE SOLUTION!!!!
I fixed the very problem you guys are having with duct tape. Yes duct tape. The problem is not that the layers are separated, but that they are stuck together. So basically, your phone is acting as if it's continually being pressed, I put duct tape on the screen and gently removed it. I had to do this about twenty times, but eventually it separated the layers and the phone works like new. I know it sounds crazy, but it worked. I am aware of one other person who has had success with this method. I saw him post it on another forum. I believe this method will work for many of you so please try it and please be patient. As I said, it took several adhesions and removals before it worked.
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hehe nice...
if you cannot fix it with ducktape it is because You are not using much of it!

ducktape - a mans best friend!
reminds me of a time when we hooked up a projector with ductape during a conference
tape everywhere!

Tape works!!!
LOL
Last week I bought an Diamond 2 because the digitizer of my Cruise stoped responding. I tried the tape thing and... my cruise is working as a charme again.

Were there is duct tape there is hope

Wtf???Who came up with this????F***** awsome!!!The screen finally responded but seeing using a direct light there's still a square...Replacing a digitizer should sholve the problem,huh?

It hapend for me to this morning but the screen was still responsive.
Then I did the quick tape reperation and now whola rings are gone

hi
i think this tape sollution should be a sticky

had a go at the duct tape as a bit of a last ditch attempt.
still no luck, the oil stain disappeared however the screen remained mostly unresponsive.
a bit of screen mashing will press certain things in certain places, but not where the initial pressure was applied.
might keep trying it later.
word of warning though, careful if the sticky tape is strong, my digitiser started separating a little. i've resigned myself to a new one anyway so it wasnt much of a loss for me if ive made it worse.
just an fyi

Hi ,
anyone found a detailed guide on how to change the digitizer?

Tilt 2 Screen doing this.
OMG My Tilt 2 has the huge oil stain square thing now. Never had this before. First time I had it in my pants pocket ever without its case... 1 time. ATT says that I damaged the screen. By having it in my POCKET? WTF. This sucks. Ill try the Duct Tape thing. I hope that works.

IMO you can't expect a digitizer to withstand constant, direct pressure such as that inside of a tight jeans pocket. After all, it's just a few sheets of plastic with tiny gaps in between.
The digitizers employed on the TD2 and some other, newer models seem to be particularly sensitive, but nonetheless this is a common hazard with ANY resistive touchscreen. The plastic in a resistive touchscreen has to be soft and bendable, and because of that it is also susceptible to warping.
Capacitive touchscreens can be fitted with tough screen surfaces thanks to the relevant touchscreen components sitting behind the display panel and not in front of it.
I've used a hardcase with screen cover for the past six months since I bought my TD2. It makes the screen somewhat inaccessible on-the-go, so it's not the most practical solution. Still, it's the only way to truly protect the screen from pressure.
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000630&products_id=17582

sorry to dig out this post...
I have the same problem, I am planning to send it back to HTC. Do you think there is a risk they don't take it within the guarantee (sorry for my bad english) as I installed hard SPL and a cooked rom ? Maybe should I reinstall official HTC rom...
thank you for your advise

HTC HD2 OEM Screen Protector

First off, hi guys - new HD2 (Leo) owner here and have to say I love it!!
Anyway, thought I'd just say something about this product. It's rubbish...
Poor fit, didn't stick properly and bubbles galore - stay well clear of it IMO
Anyway, will be lingering about as still getting my head about WinMo and the various ROMs about - still running stock 1.48 ROM out the box but it's an awesome phone and definitely glad I got it...

Well my friend, for a first post it's a good point well made. The HTC screen protectors are ****e! I managed to lay mine without bubbles, but at the bottom where it fits over the buttons it keeps lifting up and just doesn't settle properly. It's now starting to get crap underneath it, completely defeating it's intended purpose.
Final verdict... EPIC FAIL!
Oh and Welcome to XDA Developers EddyOS. I'm sure you'll be a flashaholic in no time.

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Well my friend, for a first post it's a good point well made. The HTC screen protectors are ****e! I managed to lay mine without bubbles, but at the bottom where it fits over the buttons it keeps lifting up and just doesn't settle properly. It's now starting to get crap underneath it, completely defeating it's intended purpose.
Final verdict... EPIC FAIL!
Oh and Welcome to XDA Developers EddyOS. I'm sure you'll be a flashaholic in no time.
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Did yours come with a screen protector in the box? I didn't see one in mine but I may have overlooked it, or different packaging in Asia. So tomorrow I'm on a hunt to find one.

I dont recal there being one in mine either. Hmm maybe i should look alittle harder.

Maybe they ordered the original OEM ones from HTC as a side-order!?
I did, and mine are in the mail.
Should arrive tomorrow...
Hope they are not as bad as stated in this post...
Will be sure to comment on it here when I get them

Yeah, bought mine from the HTC Shop - didn't get any in the box...

Ordered mine too... complete waste of money

I got the official ones too, I thought it was me just fitting it badly as it didn't seem to fit the screen and had bubbles. I couldn't get it to sick below the buttons either. It had to come off. I got another one from Amazon and it now fits as I would expect it to.
I would not recommend the official protector from HTC, sorry.

What ones did you get in the end? Might be tempted to get one to be on the safe side but my phone does stay in it's pouch when not in use...

Why would you need to have a screen protector......
If you guys have been hiding under your bed sheets then its time to wake up.
Leo, AKA HD2 had a scratch resistant glass and not a cheap plastic face.
Just have a look at the following link and you will agree....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcEaehKWr2s
you need guts to do it, but i didnt have the guts to do that.
But atleast the screen protector is not needed.

Of course a screen protector is needed. It may be made of glass, but it's not bullet proof glass!

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What ones did you get in the end? Might be tempted to get one to be on the safe side but my phone does stay in it's pouch when not in use...
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B002Y33M4W/ref=ox_ya_oh_product
This is the one I went for from Amazon. Fits much better than the official HTC one as it sits just slightly within the screen profile rather than exactly the same size. I have a 100% fix now.
But as one of the posts above points out, we shouldn't really need a protector on it because it is scratch resistant, but I go for peace of mind.

GUYS!
Please stay away from HTC screen protector. It is the worst screen protector I have ever had. First of all it is almost impossible to apply correctly, I had 4 and scrapped every single one! (just to say it is not the first device with big screen I tried to apply screen protector and I never had troubles before). Second thing is that it gets very smudgy.... for me complete waste of money.

petexx said:
GUYS!
Please stay away from HTC screen protector. It is the worst screen protector I have ever had. First of all it is almost impossible to apply correctly, I had 4 and scrapped every single one! (just to say it is not the first device with big screen I tried to apply screen protector and I never had troubles before). Second thing is that it gets very smudgy.... for me complete waste of money.
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Completely aggree with you. I also waste 3 of them. finally a give up!
Not recomended!

My HTC screen-protectors arrived today...
And I have to admit, I didn't really believe the people writing about how bad they were.
But I have to aggree, what a piece of s***!
I got 2 in the pack, and the first one messed up on a biblical level for me.
The second one actually seemed to fit as intended, but I just couldn't get the corner to fit right...
I got away with no bubbles underneath, but the damn corner just couldn't fit.
We're talking a matter of milimeters here...
Stay away from them, like everyone else is saying

I'll join the chorus.
I ordered a pack of 2, and quickly noticed that they're very different from the (actually quite OK) HTC HD protectors.
The adhesive side seems to attract small particles from the air within seconds. Just one such small particle produces an ugly bubble. I don't want to be seen with such bubbles. My wife would call be "Bubble Boy".
Since the adhesive is quite strong, it's impossible to make minute adjustments the moment a part of the protector touches the glass. This is compounded by the exact measurements - even when I thought it fit wonderfully on one end of the screen, the other end collided with the screen bezel, making it a bust.
The protector is also very thin and flexible, so it is almost impossible to hold without bending and getting fingerprints underneath, further ruining its appearance.
This product should be retracted from the market. I completely understand why the HD2 doesn't come bundled with these protectors:
1. they're practically impossible to fit
2. the HD2's glass doesn't really need it
I'll live hard and fast, without protection.

What for?
My HD2 is rocking along very nicely without a screen protector... with this scratch resistant glass, I really didn't see the point.
I avoid putting my phone in the same pocket as my loose change or my keys - but that was a pretty easy adjustment to make.
... Just don't see what I'd want to use a screen protector for other than to take a beautifully slim piece of art look like something it's not.

skippinshanghai said:
My HD2 is rocking along very nicely without a screen protector... with this scratch resistant glass, I really didn't see the point.
I avoid putting my phone in the same pocket as my loose change or my keys - but that was a pretty easy adjustment to make.
... Just don't see what I'd want to use a screen protector for other than to take a beautifully slim piece of art look like something it's not.
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I don't see how applying a screen protector that's probably less than 0.5mm thick will ruin the look of the device.

Its about personal choice
Screen protector or no screen protector? Condom or no condom? Safety glasses or no safety glasses? Its a matter of choice linked to a a personal assessment of risk, cost and benefit.
I always use one........
WB

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Of course a screen protector is needed.
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It's not "needed". It's scratch resistant glass - we have discussed this here before. It's the same type of glass you get with better watches. Do you use them with a protector? If you "want" damage the glass you can do this with force, but then a screen protector wouldn't help neither.

DIY GUIDE TO REPLACING THE 19$ BROKEN GLASS on the galaxy note

hi folks. i managed to replace my galaxy note front glass with a new one i got from ebay for 19$ and i want to make a step by step guide on how it can be done.
i did it using common tools and a s load of pacience and attention.
the tools i used are: heat gun with hi and low settings, exacto knife set,small phillips and flat screwdrivers, goo gone, and optional a screen protector.
first take the phone apart as it's describet in countless of threads and youtube videos. you should end up with the screen assembly shown in the first picture.
now we have to separate the glassscreen from the frame it sits on. for this we fire up the heat gun.
a few words about using the heat gun.
-my gun had 2 settings: low and high. during all this process i used it on low.
-don't put the gun directly and/or close to the thinn plastic wires that hold the two connectors.
- dont hold the gun in the same place more than 3 seconds, instead swipe the gun around the spot and the screen like u would do with a paint brush when painting.
- dont hold the gun too close, that is closer than 3 inch
-concentrate on the spot u working at but try to heat up the whole screen assembly, as it has to give away from all the points kind of at the same time, and not just the point u working at.
- dont overheat the screen as this will damage the amoled. thats how i got the two yellow spots on my screen. first one by accident and second one intentionaly to see if indeed the overheating is what caused it.
A very good rule for this is dont heat the phone more than you can bear to touch it cause afterall you have to hold the phone while working on it...
the way i did it is :
-i heated up the whole screen assembly, back and front, for a minute or two
- than i started to stick the tip of the exacto knife between the glass and the metal edge that sorrounds it. i started from the upper right corner, the side where the front camera is. see photo 2.
the goal is to unstick the glass from the frame. in photo 3 the frame and the screen is shown without the upper glass. this photo was taken after i finished everything, thats why the screen can be seen inside the frame. but i posted it to show the black sticky tape that its used to hold the glass to the frame. i think is the same kind of sticky tape thats used in all the touchphones including iphone to hold the front glass to the rest of the phone. in photo 4 i unsticked some of the tape to show it better. this tape is the main thing that holds the the glass to the frame. the other thing that hold the screen to the frame is some sticky glue on the back of the screen. but this is much softer and thiner glue. this is the reason why i say to heat up the whole screen assemby including the backside, to make it easyer to unstuck the glass and scren thats glued to it.
- once you get a bit of a foothold in the upper corner between and the glassand the frame you continue the folowing procedure again and again until the glass and screen detaches from the frame:
-every 2 minutes or so , when i feel the asemby cooled down, i'd heat up the whole assembly for 5 seconds or so, than concentrate on the spot i worked on for another 5 seconds, than move/push the exacto knife a bit. dont force it. after a while youl get a feel of it. if the exacto knife happend to be out, i would heat up the blade after heating up everything else, and than put the blade in.
prevent the freed parts from sticking back to the frame by using the rest of the exacto knife blades as shims.
once it detaches it should look like photo 5- the glass glued to the screen.
- now we have to detach or unglue the glass from the screen.
procedure is the same: start somewhere, heat, put knife in, etc... i used a second knife as shim folowing the first knife, and after avery couple moves i would get the knife out and wipe off the epoxy glue. heat the blade and put it back in.
when finished you should have something like photo 6 and 7: free screen covered in glue epoxy residue.
- now we have to get rid of the glue residue. i took the bulk of it usinga flat exacto knife blades like the one in photo 8 and 10. just warm the place a bit with the air gun and scrape it off with the blade. to clean what was left i used a bit of goo gone on a pice of cloth or napkin photo 9.
cleaned screen can be seen in photo 11 - sadly out of focus.
if u are like me and r impatient to test the screen you can just connect with just the side connector like in photo 12 and 13. the upper connector is for the s pen digitizer. side connector is for the screen and touch digitizer.
now all that's left is to put the phone back together except leave the new glass for last.
-first thing is to put the screen(without the glass) back on the frame. try to center it just right, so that ther's a little bit of space between the sides of the screen and the frame.
at this point all that will hold the screen to the frameis the thin layer of glue on the back of the screen. after centering and lowering the screen in the frame procede to put the phone back together folowing in reverse order the same steps used to disasambe it. when finished you should end up with the whole functioning phone except the front glass -as seen in photo 14.
now you can chose to trim and put a screen protector on the scree so as to fill the empty space between the screen and the glass - the space where the glue was, or you can just leave it empty. you can put a screen protector anytime after by removing the glass. which should be much easier to remove now that its held in place only by the blach sticky tape on the edges. just use some suction cap to remove it, starting at an age, and remove it like fliping a page. see photo 16. i used the note for 2 weeks without the screen protector in the empty space and it worked without a problem onlt thing was that when i pushed hard the glass would touch the screen and leave a bit of dirt in that place. thats why i decided to put the screen protector to fill the void. in photo 15 i raised the screen protector to make it visible in the photo.
if you are like me and worry that somehow the glass might fall off the phone you can always get a hard plastic case for the phone, like the one in the pics. it's made of 2 parts. one goes on the back one on the front and they snap togeter around the phone. this will hold the glass in place no matter what while it will also protect the phone.the case is in photos 17 and 18. i got this one of ebay for 8$ and free shipping.
the last thing to be done is:
for some reaseon the touch screen became much more sensitive after removing the glue so you need to lover the touch sensitivity. for this get the touchscreentune app from the market. it works with galaxy note and galaxy s2. put the sensitivity from the recomended 25 to 50.
the best thing about this procedure is that i dont have to worry about the f ing glass anymore. if it brakes again i'l just order another one and in under 2 minutes i can replace it. all i have to do is get the phone case off, put a suction cap on , , remove the old glass , and put the new glass. that's it.
because it takes 4 to 8 hours i would recommend the process to be done in 3-4 sessions as people would get tired after 2 hours of work and tend to lose focus, attention, patience and start to push to get it faster done, and that's when bad stuff happens like yellow spot burn on the screen or small scratches. another thing about scratches, even if u manage to scrach the screen dont worry to much as the scratches are almost invisible when the screen turns on. youl see what i mean ....
i do have one question: WHY DID SAMSUNG DECIDE TO GLUE THE SCREEN TO THE GLASS INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM SEPARATE LIKE ALL THE OTHER TOUCHPHONES?

I do the same for Galaxy S. I removed broken pieces of glass from device using guitar pick and carefully glued a new glass on each side. 9$ (free delivery) on ebay.

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anonymous572 said:
I do the same for Galaxy S. I removed broken pieces of glass from device using guitar pick and carefully glued a new glass on each side. 9$ (free delivery) on ebay.
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what kind of glue did you use? where did u get the glue from? how did u do it?
i didnt glue the glass back to the screen. i just put the glass on the frame. to fill the void where the glue was i trimed a regular screen protector and put it inbetween the glass and the screen. but it works same without it.

Very interesting, I didn't think it was possible because the glass is glued to the SAMOLED panel. I'm very glad that I am wrong.
As much as I hate to think about it, a guide like that would probably come in handy for many of us at some point.
*knocks on wood*

pboesboes said:
Very interesting, I didn't think it was possible because the glass is glued to the SAMOLED panel. I'm very glad that I am wrong.
As much as I hate to think about it, a guide like that would probably come in handy for many of us at some point.
*knocks on wood*
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Nothing is impossible with the right tool and know-how . The glue could probably be uncured with a heat gun, just like ipad. The challenge is not damage the panel and make sure it is dust free after put back the replacement.
It is said impossible because of the difficulty involved. If you can't manage to install a screen protector with perfect alignment and zero dust spike, this task is not for you.
@drevilatwork Thank you for writing this step by step guide!

I dropped my phone last night and it landed face down, cracking the glass.
I'm so upset, but I don't think I have the skills or the tools to do this job myself. I am relieved to learn that the glass can be replaced, but do you know whether the Samsung agents are likely to be able to do this?

they probably wont do it. but you can try showing this thread to some technician or phone repair shop and they might do it for you. they also might charge you a lot to the point where it might be more convenient to just buy a new 260$ screen.

looks scary dude

all im going to say is good luck separating the 2 screens without breaking the lcd or scratching the crap out of it ... this is a 90% epic fail method but thumbs up to the few that may succeed or dont mind their screen looking like its been belt sanded...

Its worth a try, since screen replacement costs 230 euros.

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all im going to say is good luck separating the 2 screens without breaking the lcd or scratching the crap out of it ... this is a 90% epic fail method but thumbs up to the few that may succeed or dont mind their screen looking like its been belt sanded...
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actually .. the funny thing is that even if u manage to screch the screen and / or leave dirt behind it doesn't show while the phone is on. it might show when is off but not when is on. i was suprised about that too. and secondly, having to do it again knowing what i know now i would do it without leaving a mark. and in the end is certenly worth a shot before ordering the 260$ screen assembly. the special thing that it requires is pacience and attention.

Why different prices for all the same lenses in this shop ?

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actually .. the funny thing is that even if u manage to screch the screen and / or leave dirt behind it doesn't show while the phone is on. it might show when is off but not when is on. i was suprised about that too. and secondly, having to do it again knowing what i know now i would do it without leaving a mark. and in the end is certenly worth a shot before ordering the 260$ screen assembly. the special thing that it requires is pacience and attention.
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as i said good luck with it and hope you make some money doing it..... ive successfully done the same thing myself but other than it will never look good like a factory screen (not even close), the amount of time it takes to make it look anywhere near acceptable (not like a 10 dollar repair) is big and that makes the repair not really worthwhile doing it for anyone but yourself and even then who spends 700-800 dollars on something and does a repair that makes it look cheap... then theres the whole ordeal of the membrane youre taking the adhesive off of along with the HUGE chance of damaging it.. it is placed with precision and adhered for a reason along with being dust and scratch free... this is a repair that just wont last because things will start functioning improperly for multiple reasons...
im not knocking you or anyone who tries this..im just trying to emphasize the dangers, downfalls and the probability of it being a legit solid repair. also the resale value when the next greatest thing comes along... just beware....

Hmmmm
Well chaps I hate to disagree here, but after speaking to the technical bods at Samsung it appears that the OLED is NOT glued to the glass, but the glass is laminated and bonded in, much like a car windscreen. My screen got broken the other day and I have read the 2 posts on XDA regarding this. Now if you go and have a look at the pics of the other post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487716
you can clearly see the OLED, although broken, seperated from the glass with no sign of any glue. The reason it broke is that upon heating the glass you will melt the glue, which will then stick to the edges of the OLED and if you pry it at the wrong place/time/too hard/whatever you will break the OLED as it is glued to the bezel itself. So when my glass arrives I am going to attempt to remove the glass using fishing line and pulling it between the glass and the bezel and OLED to release it, the same way as I used to remove car windscreens, and post the results here. I have also been told that the reason for the sticky "epoxy" mess that you encountered in this postis from melting the plastic on the back of the glass (which is the lamination!) by using too much heat.....I mean come on, a heat gun is a bit excessive!! Prying the screen out a bit at a time might work, but will surely end in tears, where as cutting the cold adhesive with a fine nylon cable, which wont scratch the OLED, might just work. I'll keep you posted on my results.

Just throwing an idea out there: maybe the adhesive would be easier to defeat when it's really cold, rather than really hot. I know a lot of adhesives become quite brittle when you put them in the freezer, superglue and epoxy for example. And the electronics/plastics of the display could be relatively fine with the low temps.

pboesboes said:
Just throwing an idea out there: maybe the adhesive would be easier to defeat when it's really cold, rather than really hot. I know a lot of adhesives become quite brittle when you put them in the freezer, superglue and epoxy for example. And the electronics/plastics of the display could be relatively fine with the low temps.
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this is not one of them...i can guarantee this 100%
learn how a digitizer is made then you might see the light, and not just the light of white trash repair and failure...
ive explained it in great detail many times... and btw just because im a girl doesnt mean what im saying is wrong... 20+ years in the industry gives me sort of a clue as to what im saying..
im trying to help people avoid a long drawn out disaster and to waste $20(which is NOT gorilla glass) plus all of the other things they buy to try to make this a success which will never happen...
and fyi freezers, superglue and epoxys are big no no's...they are not used by any factory so there is another myth busted... they will just add to the destruction... 100% guarantee

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this is not one of them...i can guarantee this 100%
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What do you mean? One of what?
learn how a digitizer is made then you might see the light, and not just the light of white trash repair and failure...
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I know how a digitizer is made.
ive explained it in great detail many times... and btw just because im a girl doesnt mean what im saying is wrong... 20+ years in the industry gives me sort of a clue as to what im saying..
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I had no idea you were a girl and I don't see why that matters. Experience is the industry is of course relevant, if your particular field in the industry was related to repairs. But I don't know if it is?
im trying to help people avoid a long drawn out disaster and to waste $20(which is NOT gorilla glass) plus all of the other things they buy to try to make this a success which will never happen...
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The glass on the Note is Gorilla glass: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/full-products-list
and fyi freezers, superglue and epoxys are big no no's...they are not used by any factory so there is another myth busted... they will just add to the destruction... 100% guarantee
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I didn't say factories use superglue or epoxy, or freezers for that matter. But the fact that factories don't use them doesn't mean it can't work for DIY repairs. Low temperature brittleness isn't exclusive to epoxy or superglue. Many, many glues (and other materials) have that property.

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What do you mean? One of what?
I know how a digitizer is made.
I had no idea you were a girl and I don't see why that matters. Experience is the industry is of course relevant, if your particular field in the industry was related to repairs. But I don't know if it is?
The glass on the Note is Gorilla glass: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/full-products-list
I didn't say factories use superglue or epoxy, or freezers for that matter. But the fact that factories don't use them doesn't mean it can't work for DIY repairs. Low temperature brittleness isn't exclusive to epoxy or superglue. Many, many glues (and other materials) have that property.
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i mean exactly what i wrote... as per your idea... this wasnt one that would work... my god man do i have to spell everything out for you???
obviously you dont know how a digitizer is made or you wouldnt have spouted the crap you have... bottom line
the girl part..well some dont think women know anything..its a culture thing.. but as for you not knowing if my particular field in the industry was related to repairs my god ive only said it multiple times in multiple posts... but since you dont like to read i'll say it again..20+ years board level factory trained.. motorola, audiovox, nokia, samsung... and this is a samsung forum so i think i have my tech qualifications covered here... again READING IS GOOD... work on that...
again you just dont read or have horrible comprehension because i never said the notes screen wasnt gorilla glass i said the $19 one wasnt... seriously every time you type something you dig yourself a deeper hole...
your superglue and epoxy blather just shows you dont have a clue and dont read... really they dont have any place in the screen/lcd part of diy.. its just trouble looking for a place to happen... now if the plastic housing needs repaired maybe but still not a top ten choice... if you had a clue you would know the proper adhesive to use... and its easily found... you are just too much...
seriously...just give it a rest... i wasnt bashing on you and have said it ive also said all im trying to do is help people not make a bad decision... and THIS IS A BAD DECISION...
you want me to play nice (which i really am..most other forums here would have totally lowered the boom on you for spouting crap... ive been really nice.. to keep it that way just go post somewhere where you can be productive... here youre not... im sure you have some great ideas but nothing you have said in this thread is remotely good.. sorry but it is what it is...
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i mean exactly what i wrote... as per your idea... this wasnt one that would work... my god man do i have to spell everything out for you???
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The sentence made no sense considering what it was replying to. Not my fault you were unclear/ambiguous.
obviously you dont know how a digitizer is made or you wouldnt have spouted the crap you have... bottom line
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Ok?
the girl part..well some dont think women know anything..its a culture thing.. but as for you not knowing if my particular field in the industry was related to repairs my god ive only said it multiple times in multiple posts... but since you dont like to read i'll say it again..20+ years board level factory trained.. motorola, audiovox, nokia, samsung... and this is a samsung forum so i think i have my tech qualifications covered here... again READING IS GOOD... work on that...
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Reading is very good, but you can't assume everyone in a public forum has read every single post of yours and remembers every detail. What isn't helping is the lack of proper punctuation and formatting which make your posts unpleasant to read.
again you just dont read or have horrible comprehension because i never said the notes screen wasnt gorilla glass i said the $19 one wasnt... seriously every time you type something you dig yourself a deeper hole...
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Replacement screens are generally OEM parts.
It might appear I'm in a hole, but that's only because I live in Holland and am below sea level. I assure you I haven't done any digging.
your superglue and epoxy blather just shows you dont have a clue and dont read... really they dont have any place in the screen/lcd part of diy.. its just trouble looking for a place to happen... now if the plastic housing needs repaired maybe but still not a top ten choice... if you had a clue you would know the proper adhesive to use... and its easily found... you are just too much...
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I wasn't suggesting to use superglue or epoxy, read it again.
seriously...just give it a rest... i wasnt bashing on you and have said it ive also said all im trying to do is help people not make a bad decision... and THIS IS A BAD DECISION
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I get that, and appreciate your concern. However, you should understand that some people like to try things even when the chance of success is not very high. You seem to be one of us in that regard (you attempted repairs yourself too, right?), so I don't see why it upsets you so much.
you want me to play nice (which i really am..most other forums here would have totally lowered the boom on you for spouting crap... ive been really nice.. to keep it that way just go post somewhere where you can be productive... here youre not... im sure you have some great ideas but nothing you have said in this thread is remotely good.. sorry but it is what it is...
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I don't care if you play nice or not. I appreciate honesty. Now for some honesty in return: you're not helping in this thread.
All you do is say people's ideas are stupid without giving arguments that aren't arguments from authority. And I would very much appreciate it if you would stop misrepresenting my posts (intentional or not).

Repairing Minor Scratches On The Screen

I got a small, 3/4 inch scratch on my Bionic over the weekend. It was bad enough to bother me but it wasnt deep. I did some research online and found some people had luck using 3M Glass Detailing Polish (made for cars) to polish the light scratches out. However a bottle is at least 35 bucks on eBay, almost the price of replacement glass.
On a hunch and with nothing to lose, I found some glass cooktop cleaner (cream, not spray - mine was Weiman brand and was slippery, not gritty to the touch) and using a qtip I was able to gently polish out the scratch! I haven't been able to take an picture, but it is gone. I started out with a light touch, but eventually pressed pretty hard - it took about ten minutes checking every few strokes to make sure I wasn't damaging the screen.
I tried this technique on my wife's Razr Maxx and it did not work. The polish beaded up like the screen had a waterproof coating on it. I didn't try too hard, though.
Ymmv. I hadn't seen this info anywhere and thought folks might want to know. I have a sample set of one, so don't try this unless you are OK damaging your screen further.

buckohfive said:
I got a small, 3/4 inch scratch on my Bionic over the weekend. It was bad enough to bother me but it wasnt deep. I did some research online and found some people had luck using 3M Glass Detailing Polish (made for cars) to polish the light scratches out. However a bottle is at least 35 bucks on eBay, almost the price of replacement glass.
On a hunch and with nothing to lose, I found some glass cooktop cleaner (cream, not spray - mine was Weiman brand and was slippery, not gritty to the touch) and using a qtip I was able to gently polish out the scratch! I haven't been able to take an picture, but it is gone. I started out with a light touch, but eventually pressed pretty hard - it took about ten minutes checking every few strokes to make sure I wasn't damaging the screen.
I tried this technique on my wife's Razr Maxx and it did not work. The polish beaded up like the screen had a waterproof coating on it. I didn't try too hard, though.
Ymmv. I hadn't seen this info anywhere and thought folks might want to know. I have a sample set of one, so don't try this unless you are OK damaging your screen further.
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I'm glad you got the scratch to buff out. I just wanted to tell you that you should avoid replacing the screen all-together because it really is a hassle and if done wrong, you will get dust under the screen. Also, the gaskets don't come off clean and the new digitizers don't have new ones.
Also, doesn't the Razr actually have waterproofing on it? I'm pretty sure it does, but I don't know about the screen itself.

Removing Scratches from Display

It appears that I have a small scratch in the upper left portion of my display. I am unsure if I caused this (no drops) or if it came with a scratch (highly unlikely), either way though it's there.
I didn't think it would be enough of a reason to warrant an exchange, so I was wondering if you guys knew of any tips or tricks to fix the scratch. It's only visible at certain times and you can slightly feel it when running your fingernail or s pen across it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated! I have T-Mobile Jump, so I might check to see how the warranty covers it.

If you cant feel them with finger nail, use some high quality polishing compound and buffing wheel on dremel. If scrath is little deeper, you will need to do some fine wet sanding with 2000 or higher sand paper. Make sure you mask everything very well. Another option is to put screen protector and it may hide fine scratches.
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I have a scratch on mine also..actually if u include the really fine micro scratches that u can see with bright light,then i have quite a few,noticed 2 hrs after I got home with phone on launch day,don't how they got there,tmobile store were I got phone was really rude to me about exchanging it and told me it wasn't like that when I left,so...I've been stuck with it, put screen protector on it hides some of it but have one pretty deep one that u can see all the time,luckily it's only a couple of mm long..sorry for long rant,but had to vent,lol phone was in box till I got home and put screen protector on,that's when I noticed it..grr...