guys i'm planing on buying either touch diamond or xda diamond (ignito)
i kinda like the xda more mostly because of the back cover.. but does boh of them share the same specs ??.. and i also heard that xdas are a bit slower then htc phones.. is that true ?.. and if this true can i un-brand the phone and make similar to htc ??
so if anyone could help .. plz reply
thanks,
Hi,
As far as i know, owning a Touch Diamond, you can remove the o2 touch flo software with flashing to a new rom. But seeing as I personally dont like Touch Flo, its laggy slow and does eat battery, I use SPB.
So otherwise the 2 phones should be the same.
why are you asking a question about buying a device on the Development and Hacking section?
Moved to the Diamond section.
I've got the Ignito and it's identical, (apart from the more professional battery cover).
You don't even need to flash the ROM to remove the O2 branding in TF3D. Just use TF3d Config and replace the theme with the default HTC black or whatever. It ships with v1.93 and I've had no problems with speed or anything yet, however I'm going to flash with Dutty's ROM once the bugs are all ironed out.
I cant get my theme to change, it only changes the top and bottom bars colours but the centre section remains the same o2 blue
How can i change the theme please ??
i have a ignito and have installed the latest ROM from 2.03 HTC (after installing hard SPL ofcourse)..its much faster and smoother
as for the touchflo being laggy, i never felt so with the 1.93 and 2.03 roms. Well, with the earlier roms it.
siimot said:
I cant get my theme to change, it only changes the top and bottom bars colours but the centre section remains the same o2 blue
How can i change the theme please ??
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..go to Start> Settings> Today and select any other theme and once you are done, switch back to HTC BLACK.
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Guys,
New user - very impressed, found lots of good stuff here - hoping someone can help with this one:
I have had my Vodafone Touch Diamond for just over a month - very nice phone, awful speed!!! I hate the Vodafone default theme, so I had installed the default black one that I found here - very nice looking theme!!
Now I have just upgraded to the 1.93 Vodafone ROM, and the phone finally runs at a half-decent pace - problem is the nasty Vodafone them is back. I then re-installed the old black theme I had, and it has slowed the phone right down again (in fact slower than it was on the old ROM, and some graphics weren't as good) - it looks like the 1.93 ROM has a newer version of Touchflo (or is it the theme?). Basically, the phone, on the settings screen, says it is running Touchflo 3D version 1.1.34574.1_1630.38. It clearly is different, as the animation is less, and there are subtle changes (alphabetical index when selecting country or town in Weather, for example).
I would rather have the newer TouchFlo (the losses in animation are worth it for good performance).
So the question - anyone know where I can get the updated black Touchflo software for the 1.93 ROM? I appreciate I could flash a non-voda ROM into the phone, but would rather not - don't want to lose my Voda sat-nav, for instance.
Any thoughts would be much appreciated, guys.
Thanks
Paul
Hi Paul From Swindon,
I'm Nathan From Oxford lol....oh the hatred (football Terms)
I'm using the vodafone ROM and i installed this great Diamond TF3D Config Tool.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405749
I then also got the Black Diamond Theme, can't remember the link for that and saved it to my internal storage.
I then used the Config tool to install the black theme.
Its fairly quick and keeps the extras like sat nav etc.
I did try installing the new HTC ROM however it DID like you say removed all the settings and the vodafone extras. so it took me about an hour to find and install the Vodafone one again.
Annoying!
Also in Oxford
hi guys, Ralf here also in Oxford. I've had my Diamond for about the same time and been playing with some of the tweaks to try and speed it up. Interestingly I bumped into a guy in Carphonewarehouse the other day who was the Microsoft Trainer for the Diamond. He was great and spent about 20 mins showing me around some areas of the phone. The unit he was running was not Vodafone branded and was so amazingly quick. I've managed to up the speed a bit but it's still slow in comparison to the unit I saw the MS guy with.
To be honest I've been very wary of trying one of the other ROM upgrades as I don't want to brick my handset or loose the Vodafone Sat Nav etc.
I just looked and my handset is on ROM 1.37.161.2 dated 26/6/08.
Can you please point me in the direction of where you got the latest Vodfone ROM from and how easy it to apply it (I should also add that I'm using a Mac not a PC so if there is some PC based tool then I'll have a small problem using it).
Thanks
Ralf
heres the link for the official vodafone ROM update LINK
its a piece of cake to install, but not sure about using a mac!
just a quick thought about the vodafone sat nav;
once you've clicked through the initial link, it just downloads a cab (installation) file,
which is easy enough to find and copy through active sync onto your computer for safe keeping.
Thanks
Cheers for the info and link there, I managed to download the installer and am just waiting now until the new PC laptop I ordered for my wife arrives at the weekend so that I can give it a go.
Thanks
Ralf
In Finland here. I want to use the official ROM as well, but my provider doesn't have one available, and the HTC Europe site tells me that the ROM updater is not for my device.
Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device.
I am a registered e-club member, with the serial number registered. How can I get the ROM properly? Or if I install this one from Vodafone, will it affect my phone somehow?
nwilko said:
Hi Paul From Swindon,
I'm Nathan From Oxford lol....oh the hatred (football Terms)
I'm using the vodafone ROM and i installed this great Diamond TF3D Config Tool.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405749
I then also got the Black Diamond Theme, can't remember the link for that and saved it to my internal storage.
I then used the Config tool to install the black theme.
Its fairly quick and keeps the extras like sat nav etc.
I did try installing the new HTC ROM however it DID like you say removed all the settings and the vodafone extras. so it took me about an hour to find and install the Vodafone one again.
Annoying!
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Hi Nwilko,
Did you have to install HardSPL before flashing original HTC rom?
Hi Guys,
Thanks for your thoughts so far - sorry, been off-line all week.
Nathan, thanks for your thoughts - this is what I tried doing, but when I installed the defalt black theme from this site via the config tool, it went incredibly slowly, and lost some of the new features in the TouchFlo system, such as alphabetical indexes on the weather, and seemed to return some of the aminations that had been taken out - it was taking up to 5 seconds to scrol between main screens, much worse than before - I also noticed I couldn't read some of the text.
I guess what I could do with is the Touchflo software from the 1.93 ROM update. It, I assume, exists as a cab that installs when you first switch on a non-branded phone after a ROM update. I am guessing that default one already comes with the black theme, and has the speed and menu improvements.
I have tried to live with the Voda theme for the last week, but there is no getting away from the fact that it looks terrible. The whole phone just looks so good when the black theme is applied.
I am tempted just to try and install the HTC ROM and scrap my Voda one. I really didn't want to lose Sat-Nav - I agree the link on the Voda ROM just downloads a Cab file, but I am worried it won't activate - does something in the ROM tell it that ot's on a free subscription, or does the website activate it from the mobile number - I don't want to pay 4.99 per month for it! Anyone tried it?
Thanks
Paul
Guys,
Gave up on trying to get a newer black theme for my Vodafone TD. Bit the bullet, and installed Hard-SPL, and the latest factory ROM (thanks in large part to the exceellent info on this site!).
So far all looks good - nice and quick, lovely black theme once more, nice speed, and newer radio ROM too (the new Voda Rom still had older radio version).
Fingers crossed, it seems much better - and because I kept the Vodafone Sat-Nav CAB file, re-installed it and it seems to work fine!!
Coolio!!
Paul
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Hi guys I will I also have the same problem the vodafone diamond is to slow.
I will install this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405728
very good comments .I don't have time to do it now I am travelling abroad. I will be grateful if someone try it on vodafone devise, and rate it.
so, does anyone have the default black tf3d theme from a 1.93 rom?
Hi
I have searched and found no answers to this particular question, I have recieved an o2 Ignito today as an upgrade for my partner, I have sucsessfully installed the solid black windows theme and the original HTC Touchflo, I have now found that the Comm Manager is still o2 blue, I have tried downloading the new updated comm manager which works but it is still blue. I basically want it to be the standard grey colours as on the original diamond but I am out of ideas, I don't really want to flash the ignito with a ROM from the forum as I don't really want to void the warranty. Putting the serial number into HTC Support has let me register the phone ok but It says the ROM upgrade is not compatible so that was a dead end.
If anyone has any info or solutions I would be most gratefull
Thanks
Richard
All files for this are located in the windows folder.
Maybe some guys from the forum can upload the files from a htc rom.
Just put the files in your windows folder an overwrite the old ones.
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Hi
I have searched and found no answers to this particular question, I have recieved an o2 Ignito today as an upgrade for my partner, I have sucsessfully installed the solid black windows theme and the original HTC Touchflo, I have now found that the Comm Manager is still o2 blue, I have tried downloading the new updated comm manager which works but it is still blue. I basically want it to be the standard grey colours as on the original diamond but I am out of ideas, I don't really want to flash the ignito with a ROM from the forum as I don't really want to void the warranty. Putting the serial number into HTC Support has let me register the phone ok but It says the ROM upgrade is not compatible so that was a dead end.
If anyone has any info or solutions I would be most gratefull
Thanks
Richard
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Had my Ignito last week and am still trying to get back up to speed with WM devices (2/3 years since my wizard). How did you make everything black? And do i NEED to be updating the comm manager?
Thanks.
Matt.
To get the windows top and bottom bars black I found a WM6 theme called soloblack.tsk once added to the windows directory it can be seen in the today settings and once applied it changes bars to solid black, the downside is the large start menu was still blue!! Changing the start menu to small icons seemed to fix this but I think this is again dependent on the theme you install so the files required were not there.
The comm manager seems to be theme dependant too, I found the original HTC Black theme but this didn't have data for the comm manager so it stayed the o2 blue colours, I tried another theme and it worked with the comm manager but the sound settings menu was looking horrid so at the moment I have taken it back to full o2 blue until i can find a full HTC black theme with the comm manager included etc.
Hope this makes sense.
Rich
I know I'm gonna get slammed for even posting this but I'm hoping someone can make a recommendation for me. I've been using rom's from xda-developers for years on various devices and now have a Tilt 2. I guess I'm old fashioned because I prefer the WM5 style today screen (screenshot below) and don't like Sense, Manila, or even the default WM6.5 today screen. I'd love to use the Tilt2 roms but am not seeing any that don't include either of those.
Can somebody please recommend a solid and current rom that uses the WM5 style today screen?
Thanks very much...
Greg
just go into today > items and disable windows default on Titanium or disable toughflo on Manilla builds, you'll be left with the original windows 6.1 today screen which is pretty close to that of WM5.
Then you can install all of those plugin that you had there to make it look identical again.
dazkeirle said:
just go into today > items and disable windows default on Titanium or disable toughflo on Manilla builds, you'll be left with the original windows 6.1 today screen which is pretty close to that of WM5.
Then you can install all of those plugin that you had there to make it look identical again.
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I can do that but was more looking for a rom that didn't have them there to begin with because they may get loaded even though I'm not showing them on the today screen. That's a lot of overhead if they are loaded. No big deal if I'm wrong, I can certainly disable them that way.
Thanks for the advice...
mayb this will help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4699948&postcount=4
agent_47 said:
mayb this will help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4699948&postcount=4
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Are you recommending the Firestorm ROM or one version of it?
You probably can cook your own from the official ROMs. Da_G gives out ROMs without manila, but it does have titanium in it.
I'm by no means an expert, but I would guess that titanium would be more difficult to remove from an OS build, as it comes as part of WinMo. Manila/Sense comes from HTC, so it is probably easier to break off from the base OS. I'm betting that if you disable Titanium as mentioned above, you'll remove whatever overhead there is.
Also, as mentioned above, Da_G's ROM is sans manila... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577594 ... it appears to be made specifically for the Tilt 2, judging by the title of the thread.
Hi All,
I too am looking you for this, I can assure you I've flashed almost every rom out there... Da_G is indeed a clean one but I hate the new builds with the big buttons at the bottom...
@ Agent_47, is the rom you propose has this as well I suppose...
;(
I flashed my rom to 6.5 and then installed TF3HDB3 it worked fine. Then their was this app I installed that needed NETCFv35.Messages.EN.wm(The app was supposed to make TouchFlo have transparent top and Bottom bar) from their everything when downhill. I restarted my phone then I get this message saying shake .exe not working or some bull sh!t like that and now TochFlo wont launch So I uninstalled TF3HDB3, the app thats supposed to make the top and bottom bar transparent, and NETCFv35.Messages.EN.wm and now when I install it to the phone memory I keep getting TouchFlo can't install try a different location, problem is it has to be installed to the phone memory to work. I tried the memory card it works but that dosent help one bit. Please can someone help me out, Does anybody know why I can't install it to my phone memory anymore????, I hate titanium it's a freakin joke compared to TF3HDB3.Edit the app I was using to make the top and bottom bar transparent was MaxTF3D Theme Maker v4.1.
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I tried TFL3DB2 and itje full HD manilla CAB and they both installed correctly. Like what I had before, I installed Rostrain crystal touchx edition theme along with W7-TF3D icons cab. I posted pics to show what happen every time for both versions of TouchFlo HD 3D. On top of that after I uninstall crystal touchx and the W7-TF3D icons niether TouchFlo HD3D version will run again so have to uninstall them. I can't be the only person this has happen to, Please I know their is someone out their that Knows Something .
Why do i even bother even posting help threads this has to be the third thread I made where a 100+ people veiwed and not one tip or suggestion. sigh...... I miss motorolafans.com the days when I post a thread for help and get a response in the next 30 min to an hour not for 4-5 days later with 100+ people veiwed and get ABOUSTLEY NOTHING. Either my problems are so mind boggling that not one person out of the couple thousand people here has a "suggestion" or people really don't give sh!t on this site. My next smart phone is Defiantly going to be Motorola again.
Well dear... you got a very special problem:
TF3DB2 is a very old cabbed version of touch flo 3d from the htc touch hd. that was never build to run on winmob 6.5.
But I see that you've already learnt how to flash a rom. why don't you just choose a rom with build in touch flot from htc topaz/rhodium oder even htc hd2? they'll run a lot faste, have a lot more functions and are very stable.
good luck!
TheNicoT said:
Well dear... you got a very special problem:
TF3DB2 is a very old cabbed version of touch flo 3d from the htc touch hd. that was never build to run on winmob 6.5.
But I see that you've already learnt how to flash a rom. why don't you just choose a rom with build in touch flot from htc topaz/rhodium oder even htc hd2? they'll run a lot faste, have a lot more functions and are very stable.
good luck!
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Funny out of 127 views finally one person finally says TF3DB2/B3 dosen't work right with 6.5 now thats freakin hilarious. @ TheNicot thank you for being kind enough for sparing your time and giving me a suggestion. The problem is after a flash it takes about 1-2 days to restore everything including with a backup program. 2. I've also read that some roms have a restart problem where the phone restarts by itself and I havent experiance that yet with gtrab's Pure 6.5. The main reason why I wanted TouchFlo3D was because of the Transparency with the Crystal theme, The W7-TF3D icons( which probaly won't work with LEO 2.5 anyway), and the panoramic back ground which is out now for leo 2.5. What bugs me the most about all of this is I had TF3DHDB3 with Crystal theme and W7-TF3D icons working flawlessly for 3-4 days straight no problem whats so ever until I got greedy with MaxTTF3Dmaker 4.1 trying to make the top/bottom bar transparent to match the theme and in the end it completley ruined TF3DHD in my cell and now it's back to the drawing board all over again with flashing to another rom.
Hi to all,i'm looking for a qwerty-keyboard phone for my gf,and i can't afford umts Blackberry (she has h3g sim),is this phone a good choice,even if it's really old?
I've found it for 90 €,it seems good to me,but i don't want to buy a too slow device.
I'm used to HTC Diamond,which has slightly better hardware but suffers using 3d manila and stuff "overrated" for its hw (despite the claims they sold it with in the past ).
Is Tytn II still good for 2d stuff and normal everyday usage?
I even see it has a dedicated android section,so maybe its better than diamond at handling it,this would be sweet too
Let me know,thanks for help
The build quility is superb, an incredible bit of engineering.
Graphics can be slow for heavy gamers or GPS applications. I really liked mine, only moved on as had it stolen.
I was on a 6.1 standard ROM & it ran very well for all basic phone tasks such as emailing sms/mms ect & handling office docs was good too.
I used it as a modem for notebook internet too. Wifi & BT worked ok & keyboard plus d-pad were nice in function.
Only downside is the weight of the device but for the price today it is incredible value for money, you will only find a few devices that feel such quality in build.
The tilt screen is very cool & they do look good sat on a desk in full tilt.
If she likes the look of it get it, plenty of tweaks & support for the Kaiser so should still be a fun device.
Not so good that it suffers gps apps,but i guess its normal...
And is it good to use limiting touchscreen inputs (she hates touchscreen )?
I mean,except for opening start menu,is it usable with hardware buttons,more than touch?
Yes it is very good in terms of button function.
I improved button function by using mortscripts that would change button function pending on active window & reg keys such as headphones connected, active sync connect ect.
Even the screen is quite good when you need to use it.
Touchscreens are over rated in usability, the touch diamond 2 would of been fantastic if it had a small joy stick d-pad in the centre under buttons but no you have to struggle with that ****e zoom bar touch panel which only has movement in 2 directions.
Tactile feel of buttons can never be replaced by a screen period.
I could do functions on my Kaiser without looking at it as buttons could act like brale.
The slow graphic issue didn't seem that bad to me, I used mapking & Garmin with no issues & played games such as Duke Nukem without issues.
I'm on a touch pro at the moment, I like it but miss the solid build of the Kaiser, it feels unbreakable ...
You could also look at the HTC S710 !
Just bought for my gf...its ****ing awesome,compared to my plastic-breaking-with-breath diamond :asd:
Just waiting to learn how to unlock
Speaking about cooked rom,any suggestion about a speedy rom (not necessarily manila,it just should be "handy to use" and light)?
And should i try android (aka is it fast and functional enough?)
Thanks everybody
edit: oh,and how can i check if it has hardspl installed already?
I was on latest standard rom with graphics driver from HTCCA.
I would start off on a standard ROM unless you spot an interesting custom ROM which has solid feedback.
To view HardSPL version go to bootloader mode:
-Enter Bootloader mode: Hold Camera + Power buttons together and reset with stylus
(exit bootloader by pressing soft reset button)
-HardReset: Hold Talk and End soft key - Reset :When prompted push Green Talk Button
This is the unlock tools I used: (Not sure if supports 3 network !)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3432892&postcount=10
Thanks Mister B,we are on stock 6.1 rom too...and i'd like to install graphics driver,can i do it without any risk?and where can i take them from?
°Dexter° said:
Thanks Mister B,we are on stock 6.1 rom too...and i'd like to install graphics driver,can i do it without any risk?and where can i take them from?
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Go to the ROM development section, read through the FAQ links. That will give you some basic ideas what is available, etc.
If you want great batt life with plenty of memory, use WM 6.1, not 6.5 ..
To know which ROM is best, read through the last pages (10 - 20)of each thread, the feedback from the users will give you overall view. Why I suggested 10-20, because for old ROM that chef has left, recent posts are usually useless, repeating old questions again and again.
°Dexter° said:
Thanks Mister B,we are on stock 6.1 rom too...and i'd like to install graphics driver,can i do it without any risk?and where can i take them from?
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Link below:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/download/HTC-CA-Kaiser-Drivers.cab
It is un-installable & should be no problem.
Make sure that stock 6.1 is the latest release. I can dig out a serial if you require ROM downloading direct from htc website.
how can i find if it's the latest release (i thought there was just one)?
I should have a serial number on mine too,for downloading,or am i missing something?
Thanks for all your help,anyway
@anagarika:wm 6.1 is for sure, even my diamond suffers from 6.5
ps:i entered bootloader,it says SPL 3.29,i guess it's still the original one
Latest HTC generic ROM is:
HTC TyTN II_RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.56_Ship.exe
You can see ROM version in Settings device information.
If your device is branded your serial will not work with HTC website, so you will need a serial of a generic HTC kaiser ;-)
Your SPL is original. Installing the hardSPL is easy & unlocking can be quite straight forward but may require downgrading to wm6 ROM to unlock & then upgrading to a 6.1 rom of your choice.
My rom is 3.29.408.o ITA,other stuff is lke you posted...i guess it's the latest one then
Newest Italian is:
_HTC TyTN II_WM6.1_MR2_RUU_Kaiser_HTC_ITA_3.29.408.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.56_Ship.zip
So looks like your on newest ROM.
I already had d3d drivers ("previous version will be uninstalled")...all these concerns for nothing
Anyway i installed spb mobile shell 3.5,themed,and it's a good mid-point between eyecandy and memory usage...
I only have some hang-ups when i make some operations too fast (e.g. i open and reclose very fast an app),making me have to reboot the phone...but it only happens sometimes,and i guess it's related to mobile shell
I tried to install updated camera app yesterday (nadavi 5.xx) but then camera screen turned black,so i uninstalled.
I installed htc album too,but its menus are blank (i can select them with left and right keys,but nothing's written down)...do you know which version of these packages works for sure?
edit:i fixed camera problem,but album issue is still there,although i tried two different versions
Mmm don't know which HTC album viewer is your best option, I used Resco Photo viewer Pro as far surpases the HTC app.
Tried it,perfect program
Thanks a lot (i think there's no way to oc the cpu a little,right?)
Nope, just don't use CPU & graphic heavy software. Mine run sweet & was very usable.