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Technical : SMS Managed Folder (Help Appreciated)

Hi fellow forumers, I'm new here. Pardon me if this isn't the right place to post technical question.
Just got my Diamond for a couple of days. I've a problem that some Diamond-ers might face, and I can't seem to find the solution anywhere else.
By going to Message/Menu/Tools/Manage Folder...
I'm suppose to be able to select that option and create a new folder to store my smses by default. But, apparently, the said option is being disable (greyed out) for some unknown reason.
Does any kind souls here have solutions to this? Do I need to do tweaking to enable this?

I think if I am not wrong, WM6.1 SMS is default Threaded Mode, that is you see all sms from same person in 1 view. In threaded mode, you cannot create sub-folder.
Search in this forum, there is an apps which able to switch your sms between threaded and normal (not threaded and single sms like WM5 and WM6). This apps need .netcf v3.5. I think in normal mode, you can create sub-folder. After that you can switch it back to threaded mode.
Try and let us know.

Solution
Thanks CWKJ for your solution. As what you stated, the "manage folder..." option will not be available if it is in threaded sms mode.
I tweaked the registery to make it in normal sms mode and it is enabled.
Here is how it is done:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:1
Setting Value to 0 will give you normal SMS inbox
Setting Value to 1 will give you threaded SMS inbox
Viola. The option is enabled. Hope this help new Diamond users as well.
Cheerios!

Janch said:
Thanks CWKJ for your solution. As what you stated, the "manage folder..." option will not be available if it is in threaded sms mode.
I tweaked the registery to make it in normal sms mode and it is enabled.
Here is how it is done:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:1
Setting Value to 0 will give you normal SMS inbox
Setting Value to 1 will give you threaded SMS inbox
Viola. The option is enabled. Hope this help new Diamond users as well.
Cheerios!
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With those settings you will stop the notification too. Use search for more advanced regsettings (I know they were posted in the Prophet WM6 section) or use ModeSMS.

You using Registry tweak.
Use the Apps as I have suggested. Search harder. Its somewhere in the forum.

I tried ModeSms, but the programme didn't work somehow as the programme screen was totally distorted.
I tried this method instead and it worked with notifications and disable threaded inbox.
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM\SMSInbox
ThreadingDisabled Value=0 (threaded) or 1 (single)
with reference to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2086458&postcount=1
Hope this helped other users as well =)

Strange, I make a search from here, cannot find, but search via Google can direct me to here.
Search for "SMS Tweaker V1.5" you will find the working version.

Thanx for Help
Janch said:
Thanks CWKJ for your solution. As what you stated, the "manage folder..." option will not be available if it is in threaded sms mode.
I tweaked the registery to make it in normal sms mode and it is enabled.
Here is how it is done:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:1
Setting Value to 0 will give you normal SMS inbox
Setting Value to 1 will give you threaded SMS inbox
Viola. The option is enabled. Hope this help new Diamond users as well.
Cheerios!
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can u please tell me how can i access [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:1
to change it, i mean how to find registry...

Kaiser - SMS missing

In my Kaiser in MESSAGES missing row SMS/MMS .
There is only NEW EMAIL .
SMS not comming .number of SMS centre is correct .
Can somebody help my fix this problem?

rosman said:
In my Kaiser in MESSAGES missing row SMS/MMS .
There is only NEW EMAIL .
SMS not comming .number of SMS centre is correct .
Can somebody help my fix this problem?
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What rom are u using?
There are few options: hard reset, install some 3rd party app that handles sms/mms.
I dont know how u manage to get rid of the sms. Did u play with the registry?

I didnt play with registry . This hapnd after 1 switch on when I buy Kaiser

Have you sent or recieved any sms msgs yet? Sometimes it doesnt show up leep unless theres "conversations" to show. That bugged me out the first time I used 6.1

no i not received any SMS
sendind is no possible becauce in messages is only : nev email and nothing more

rosman said:
I didnt play with registry . This hapnd after 1 switch on when I buy Kaiser
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So, take it back to the store where you bought it and have them resolve the issue for you. Seems logical to me. Maybe it's defective.

sms alert problem

hello friends.
i have question, plz help!
when i recieve new sms massage my phone take no action, i mean ther is no alert ring on new sms!
i check the notification settings and all of them is ok. even i check the event notification but no alert again. i even hard reset my device and this problem remains. i rom is the latest version and i apply the wake up screen on new sms tweak on my phone. i undo this tweak but steel the same (no alert).
now on new massages the phones screen turned on and new massage counter show over massages tab icon in touchflo3D, but no alert!!!!
what should i do to my phone except installing the 3rd party apps?
helllllp plzzzz
oh , and sorry for my poor english help plz (

Try...
Apply the tweak.. and then restart your phone. (not hard reset just switch it off and then on again).
Might work, might not work.. but while you are waiting for others to come up with a solution, why not give the tweak another shot.
All the best

thanks for replay.
which tweak u mean?

Wake Up on New SMS --> HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL : DisableSMSWakeUpEvent <-- set to "1" by default. Change value to "0"

Also when you disable threaded sms; notification breaks!
See thread: WM 6.1 how to disable threaded sms without disabling sms notifications?

Untitled79 said:
Also when you disable threaded sms; notification breaks!
See thread: WM 6.1 how to disable threaded sms without disabling sms notifications?
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Don't use the tweak put up in the thread you quoted. Set that value to the default value.
There is another way to disable threaded messages
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Setting s\OEM
Create Registry entry
SMSInboxThreadingDisabled
Set Value to 1
Restart the phone
This way.. the Wake on Sms Tweak does it's job
implying..
unthreaded texts.. and notification on Sms

i make the changes in registry and the threaded mode is disabled but still have the problem.
i wonder why my device has a such a problem ?!!

no one have new idea?

that's not fair heeeellppp plzzzz (

go to settings / sound and alerts and flag sound allert on "new sms". Worked for me.

Carmad666 said:
go to settings / sound and alerts and flag sound allert on "new sms". Worked for me.
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thanks for replay but i try that before.
i don't know what should i do with this silly problem

i had the same problem but it was becouse of registry edit. I wanted to turn off threaded sms (chat) in registry and thats why i had no sound for new message. Maybe its also a solution for you.
P.S
mayby one of programs u have installed disabled chat function. check in registry this: HKEY_CURRENT_USER/software/microsoft/inbox/
mark SETTINGS (but dont enter) and there you have value SMSAvailable. must be set 1. then restart
Good luck

Messages go with SYSTEM VOLUME, and no with RING VOLUME

nimamalek said:
hello friends.
i have question, plz help!
when i recieve new sms massage my phone take no action, i mean ther is no alert ring on new sms!
i check the notification settings and all of them is ok. even i check the event notification but no alert again. i even hard reset my device and this problem remains. i rom is the latest version and i apply the wake up screen on new sms tweak on my phone. i undo this tweak but steel the same (no alert).
now on new massages the phones screen turned on and new massage counter show over massages tab icon in touchflo3D, but no alert!!!!
what should i do to my phone except installing the 3rd party apps?
helllllp plzzzz
oh , and sorry for my poor english help plz (
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I have the same problem before
Firstly, you can try the following registry to disable the threaded sms:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Setting s\OEM\SMSInboxThreadingDisabled
DWORD value set to 1
Then, set the following registry and restart your phone, now the sms alert/sound/vibrate are also existed.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Setting s]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:1

I fixed the SMS alert problem on my Touch Diamond
Hi,
I managed to fix it on my touch diamond
I installed SPB phone suite from here
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/phonesuite/ and did the soft reset when requested.
The problem disappeared after that.
I then un-installed it and the sms alert still works properly.
~ep~

Sms Chat

Hello, does anybody know if there i a way to turn off the sms chat. I like to read and delete my text messages but the diamond seems to want to keep them. Help

pcb007 said:
Hello, does anybody know if there i a way to turn off the sms chat. I like to read and delete my text messages but the diamond seems to want to keep them. Help
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You can turn it off with Diamond Advanced Config or just set the correct value in the registry (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2339502#post2339502)

Thanks for that, i did do a search but obviously it was not good enough.

ROM FULLY without HTC messaging

Lo all, I know you'll probably say 'use the search function' but I have and can;t find and full answer.
Question:
Is there a way to fully disable HTC messaging and not just so you can press the all messages buttonand see windows messaging program.
So if you are on Sense Messaging tab and you recieve a message from someone, you can click on it and it will take you to WM threaded messages for that person?
Hope someone can clear this up, I'm so confused with what these 'disable HTC messaging' actually do and how much they actually disable.
Logicalstep

I advise you XannyTech roms without HTCMessaging
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565290

But these still have HTC messaging when you click on the SMS. I have been using Xanny's ROMS.
The only WM messaging they have is when you click on 'all messages' button.
Logicaslstep

He says he have 4 Versions:
With HTC Messaging
Without HTC Messaging
With HTC MESSAGING + MSVC
Without HTC Messaging + MSVC

I suggest to check or learn before you write things which are not true.
Without HTC Messaging means, that default SMS program is not HTC Messaging. However this program is called by other Manila's features. For example contacts from Call History. Once run, you can have possibility to switch into SMS of the person etc etc.
Note, that WM has build in call history, contact list etc - those features are still not replaced making HTC messaging stil alive.
HOwever, versions 'without HTC messaging' has the same functionality as stand alone mod: replaces all HTC Messaging shortcuts found in system by Mobile Outlook. And yes, it calls MO while hitting SMS from Manila SMS tab.

Well I'm using a without ROM and have on several occasions, they do not call the WM threaded sms from Sense SMS Tab when you click on a message. They still call HTC messaging.
Only when you click on 'All messages' does it launch outlook.
I would like to know if there is a way to call WM Threaded SMS program from HTC SMS Tab when you click on a persons sms.
Logicalstep
PS who were you talking to when you said: 'I suggest to check or learn before you write things which are not true.'

I agree
Logicalstep said:
Well I'm using a without ROM and have on several occasions, they do not call the WM threaded sms from Sense SMS Tab when you click on a message. They still call HTC messaging.
Only when you click on 'All messages' does it launch outlook.
I would like to know if there is a way to call WM Threaded SMS program from HTC SMS Tab when you click on a persons sms.
Logicalstep
PS who were you talking to when you said: 'I suggest to check or learn before you write things which are not true.'
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I also have tried to find a solution that disables more of the HTC UI but no luck. I would also like to disable their contact manager!

**Bump**
Bump Anyone managed this yet ?
Logicalstep

Use thinkblu method, you can disable htc messaging and enable ms messaging,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5682051&postcount=394
Originally Posted by thinkblu
Following up to my post above. I have created a cab that will make this process easier. There were a couple mistakes in the "app.reg" file that I have corrected. So, here are the instructions to disable the HTC Messaging Client and enable the MS Messaging Client instead:
1) Uninstall any messaging related cabs (including the Zenyee or Static cabs)
2) Disable Sense
3) Use Total Commander to Delete the "ManilaFull.xml" in the "\Windows" folder
4) Install the attached cab that corresponds to your device (GSM or CDMA)
5) Soft Reset
6) Go to "HKLM\System\Inbox\ExternalAccounts"
Rename "SMS" to "SMS.htc"
7) Soft Reset
8) Install Arcsoft MMS software (go here if you need it)
9) Soft Reset
10) Enable Sense
Please let me know how it works for you guys!
I'd like to give credit to fone_fanatic, dagrim1, and xwpx520 for finding this information

with thinkblu method, there is one and only bug only, it didn't show bubbles showing how many unread message.

Tha main process there seems to be the :
6) Go to "HKLM\System\Inbox\ExternalAccounts"
Rename "SMS" to "SMS.htc"
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However I don;t have this registry setting which is why this doesn;t work for me.
Logicalstep