Lo all, I know you'll probably say 'use the search function' but I have and can;t find and full answer.
Question:
Is there a way to fully disable HTC messaging and not just so you can press the all messages buttonand see windows messaging program.
So if you are on Sense Messaging tab and you recieve a message from someone, you can click on it and it will take you to WM threaded messages for that person?
Hope someone can clear this up, I'm so confused with what these 'disable HTC messaging' actually do and how much they actually disable.
Logicalstep
I advise you XannyTech roms without HTCMessaging
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565290
But these still have HTC messaging when you click on the SMS. I have been using Xanny's ROMS.
The only WM messaging they have is when you click on 'all messages' button.
Logicaslstep
He says he have 4 Versions:
With HTC Messaging
Without HTC Messaging
With HTC MESSAGING + MSVC
Without HTC Messaging + MSVC
I suggest to check or learn before you write things which are not true.
Without HTC Messaging means, that default SMS program is not HTC Messaging. However this program is called by other Manila's features. For example contacts from Call History. Once run, you can have possibility to switch into SMS of the person etc etc.
Note, that WM has build in call history, contact list etc - those features are still not replaced making HTC messaging stil alive.
HOwever, versions 'without HTC messaging' has the same functionality as stand alone mod: replaces all HTC Messaging shortcuts found in system by Mobile Outlook. And yes, it calls MO while hitting SMS from Manila SMS tab.
Well I'm using a without ROM and have on several occasions, they do not call the WM threaded sms from Sense SMS Tab when you click on a message. They still call HTC messaging.
Only when you click on 'All messages' does it launch outlook.
I would like to know if there is a way to call WM Threaded SMS program from HTC SMS Tab when you click on a persons sms.
Logicalstep
PS who were you talking to when you said: 'I suggest to check or learn before you write things which are not true.'
I agree
Logicalstep said:
Well I'm using a without ROM and have on several occasions, they do not call the WM threaded sms from Sense SMS Tab when you click on a message. They still call HTC messaging.
Only when you click on 'All messages' does it launch outlook.
I would like to know if there is a way to call WM Threaded SMS program from HTC SMS Tab when you click on a persons sms.
Logicalstep
PS who were you talking to when you said: 'I suggest to check or learn before you write things which are not true.'
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I also have tried to find a solution that disables more of the HTC UI but no luck. I would also like to disable their contact manager!
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Bump Anyone managed this yet ?
Logicalstep
Use thinkblu method, you can disable htc messaging and enable ms messaging,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5682051&postcount=394
Originally Posted by thinkblu
Following up to my post above. I have created a cab that will make this process easier. There were a couple mistakes in the "app.reg" file that I have corrected. So, here are the instructions to disable the HTC Messaging Client and enable the MS Messaging Client instead:
1) Uninstall any messaging related cabs (including the Zenyee or Static cabs)
2) Disable Sense
3) Use Total Commander to Delete the "ManilaFull.xml" in the "\Windows" folder
4) Install the attached cab that corresponds to your device (GSM or CDMA)
5) Soft Reset
6) Go to "HKLM\System\Inbox\ExternalAccounts"
Rename "SMS" to "SMS.htc"
7) Soft Reset
8) Install Arcsoft MMS software (go here if you need it)
9) Soft Reset
10) Enable Sense
Please let me know how it works for you guys!
I'd like to give credit to fone_fanatic, dagrim1, and xwpx520 for finding this information
with thinkblu method, there is one and only bug only, it didn't show bubbles showing how many unread message.
Tha main process there seems to be the :
6) Go to "HKLM\System\Inbox\ExternalAccounts"
Rename "SMS" to "SMS.htc"
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However I don;t have this registry setting which is why this doesn;t work for me.
Logicalstep
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Hi!
I'm quite desperate. I'd like to start SMS on my Kaiser with one or two clicks. So please recommend me how to make my SMS box the default message box (I'm not using MMS, who does anyway... I mean SMS are so much more popular) and/or direct "Compose a new SMS" or so. I also use HTC Home. Ideally I'd like to add a button in HTC Home which would directly open a new SMS (not MMS).
And yes, I did use Google "site:forum.xda-developers.com Kaiser SMS" + various combinations of words "default", "folder", "quick", "fast", "button", "MMS"...
I also tried several registry and other things tweakers.
Thanks
Btw, if you could recommend an application for quick taking notes, something like primitive drawing or so... PhatPad maybe?
um htc home (with the big clock) has it with one click..
I don't really understand your request, but this might be what your after? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2287306&postcount=6
EDIT:
Also,
When viewing your SMS's do: Menu, Tools, Options and Untick "Display account picker when opening Messaging".
Ta
Dave
Biges said:
Hi!
I'm quite desperate. I'd like to start SMS on my Kaiser with one or two clicks. So please recommend me how to make my SMS box the default message box (I'm not using MMS, who does anyway... I mean SMS are so much more popular) and/or direct "Compose a new SMS" or so. I also use HTC Home. Ideally I'd like to add a button in HTC Home which would directly open a new SMS (not MMS).
And yes, I did use Google "site:forum.xda-developers.com Kaiser SMS" + various combinations of words "default", "folder", "quick", "fast", "button", "MMS"...
I also tried several registry and other things tweakers.
Thanks
Btw, if you could recommend an application for quick taking notes, something like primitive drawing or so... PhatPad maybe?
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Try installing HTC action screen. It will map the left softkey to be able to create new mms/sms/email/apointment/contact, all with one click of the button. That might be what you're looking for.
Hi,
I am also quite desperate for this. I will try to explain what is that we are after.
When composing a new SMS message we need to follow the following steps.
1. Go to Messaging Application
2. Select SMS \ MMS
3. Click on Menu
4. Click on New
5. Now we need to select SMS from the list that shows MMS / SMS / Voicemail.
Now here is the problem, we would like to have SMS as the first option if possible (It helps save the click I need to do, if I am using the D-Pad), Alternatively, a direct link to just start composing a new SMS message directly without going through multiple menus.
Thanks
Manik
Hi,
I missed the link of my previous post (#3). Sorry. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2287306&postcount=6
The link was to a CAB to create a "New SMS" link on the left or Right soft key.
Ta
Dave
wow, from the main screen I tap 4 times with my finger and I'm good to go. That really isn't that much work.
manikahuja said:
Hi,
I am also quite desperate for this. I will try to explain what is that we are after.
When composing a new SMS message we need to follow the following steps.
1. Go to Messaging Application
2. Select SMS \ MMS
3. Click on Menu
4. Click on New
5. Now we need to select SMS from the list that shows MMS / SMS / Voicemail.
Now here is the problem, we would like to have SMS as the first option if possible (It helps save the click I need to do, if I am using the D-Pad), Alternatively, a direct link to just start composing a new SMS message directly without going through multiple menus.
Thanks
Manik
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Thanks for the help
ChumleyEX said:
um htc home (with the big clock) has it with one click..
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Well, I click on the the envelope icon (1), then I have to click on "Menu" (2), "Go To" (3), "Text meddages" (4), "Menu" (5), "New" (6). This makes SIX clicks.
for me,
Envelope, menu, new, and sms..
Done.
After clicking the envelope, if it opens to email press the 5 way to the right and it will bring up SMS.
brutel1 said:
After clicking the envelope, if it opens to email press the 5 way to the right and it will bring up SMS.
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Thanks! These minors things can make my head hurt
Hi All,
I am using Indian version of HTC Touch Diamond (2G Version).
I want to filter SMS which are received or sent to particular contact to be moved to one folder. Does anybody have any idea about this?
I have tried SMSOrganizer trial but it crashed 2 times and i had missed my lots of sms, also it was not working fine.
Or simply can I configure like; SMS received from particular contact does not appear on manila 3d app??
Please advice me..
Thanks,
Krups
Nobody having any idea??
Disable "Thread SMS" and then try to use SMSOrganizer again.
I have already disabled SMS threading.. I have downloaded SMSOrganizer trial version.. but it crashes many times... any solution????
Any Alternatives??
Any light weight application to filter incoming SMS for HTC Diamond??
think you will struggle to do this with TF3D handlingling your texts
Therefore I suggest you switch off threaded sms, use TF3D config to remove text messaging from the TF3D interface
Then use the various sms tools - easyhelpers sms security used to work well on my Artemis
Because I like TF3D, I haven't used any such program on my diamond
Is there any cab file out there for the AT&T tilt that would allow a message that can't be sent, due to no service, or receiving another text at the same time, ect... Is there any cab that would allow me a message resend button as opposed to having to open the drafts, open the text, send the text, open back up the inbox...?
If this doesn't exist, can anyone capable of writing code create me this hack? It would be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advanced!
windows mobile 6.1 + "threaded" text messaging
if you are using a WinMo 6.1 ROM, threaded text messaging is enabled by default (if not enabled, use KaiserTweak to enable threaded messaging).
i clearly remember (because it has happened with me TWICE) that the threaded messaging view will display any unsent messages (within the thread) in RED color and will provide a clickable link labeled "Try again"...the function of the link is self explanatory
the combination of events you are talking about (sending a message exactly when receiving a message and/or a phone call) is RARE but it DOES happen...fortunately, i don't mind using the threaded messaging view and i get the resend link (in case of transmission failure for whatever reason) as a bonus
hope this helps...good luck!
It's not necessiarily rare to me as I text all the time, haha. I know what you're talking about, but I don't like threaded text messaging. It becomes slow and sluggish after a while. I highly appreciate the suggestion though!
Does anybody know of a program that would allow this tweak?
Quite some time since I used Arcsoft but didnt they have a resend feature (could be some of the later ed.)? Or am I wrong and it was a feature on 6.1? If it was on 6.1 you could still use it for just that by switching off treaded view.
I do have arcsoft MMS, but how would i go about using it to turn off threaded view SMS and keep the "try again" or resend button?
yeahmanitsme said:
I do have arcsoft MMS, but how would i go about using it to turn off threaded view SMS and keep the "try again" or resend button?
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Ok hold on, will make a cab for you.
Enjoy !
Raiisak`s En/Disable Treaded SMS
Thanks a ton for making that, but I have kaiser tweak and I am able to en/disable threaded SMS. Thanks tho.
Is there a cab that you could make me to add a popup window to my screen when a message is unable to send that simple let's me resend it instead of automatically move it to the drafts? This seems to happen alot seeing as I text alot. Thanks in advanced for anybody can help!
yeahmanitsme said:
Thanks a ton for making that, but I have kaiser tweak and I am able to en/disable threaded SMS. Thanks tho.
Is there a cab that you could make me to add a popup window to my screen when a message is unable to send that simple let's me resend it instead of automatically move it to the drafts? This seems to happen alot seeing as I text alot. Thanks in advanced for anybody can help!
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Reason I made the cab was to simply add on/off the treaded sms whitout making any change to the notification status for you by simply create this DWORD in youre reg:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:00000000
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Arcsoft_MMS 5_0_31_81 w/ treaded ON had the function to ask if you wanted to resend sms/mms if failed. Try to install that and run my cab and see if the red text comes up comes if the sms fails to send. Chance are that this will solve much of youre problem, other than that I would recomend to try another radio if you have severe signal issues
Sorry for the stupid question but um when you say new radio... You mean....?
If you use custom rom they come whit variouse radio, not always will the given radio work smoothly in youre country and phone. I would read up on this tread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182 and also the OP of the used rom to see if there is any recomended radio for youre phone or country. If none found I would ask in that tread. GL
Is there any way to auto resend a failed message? either for a certain time or an X amount of resends?. My phone constantly goes in and out of service. I dont want to have to keep my phone in my hand waiting for service to kick in then resend.
When I open an SMS by touching the message on TF3D it opens another dialog than from the SMS inbox. I prefer the thread dialog from SMS inbox. Is there a possibility to tweak TF3D to uses this application?
Your question is a bit unclear. On my Topaz the threaded inbox is being used by default when thicking a message from the TF3D inbox.
Yes, you are right but try the following
- from TF3D open the SMS inbox (you will see the list of all recieved SMS)
- click on an SMS
Also a thread presentation will be shown but different from the one out of TF3D.
I assume from inbox it uses the WM email application. For example now you can use the pre-prepared short texts as within the email function.
Is it understandable what I mean?
the 1 from the TF3D sucks. lets say you're text'ing & accidentally close the SMS, your SMS wont be saved automatically in the draft folder.
Personally, I ditched the TF3D after a week of having it. it looks nice, but quite redundant for what I need.
I figured its time for me to post a thread on how to integrate the messaging client into the Manila 2.1. My hope is that cooks with more experience and knowledge than I can help with some brainstorming ideas.
Here is where i'm at. I did some research and testing on the device and its apparent that messaging client ties into the windows default messaging client. For example in TF3D when you click all messages it would take to the messaging client which is great and what we want it to do. The problem is when you are in that screen and click on a message it takes you back to the manila 2.1 message overlay which won't send a message at all with the client installed.
What i've done so far is i found a manila 2.0 file that allows you to access the default windows messaging client from the messaging tab and with the HTC messaging client installed it accesses it instead, which is also great. But again I hit the same issue where it when you click all messages and click on a message it takes u right back to the manila 2.1 messaging overlay.
I think the mode9 file needs to be modified and i'm currently messing around in there to see if i can find anything worth wild. Does anyone else have any other ideas? Let me know if this wasn't clear at all as well.
No one has any ideas???? I can't be the only person who wants this
I think this is a great idea. If this can be completed it would be a great triumph for those who are more attached to Manila 2.1 as opposed to 2.5.
I have it half assed working but its not 100% and I can't seem to find the piece to get it to work 100%
bump.. Anyone have any ideas!!!?!?!?!?!?!
I am assuming you will have to mod some 2.1 manila files to make it refer to 2.5 messaging client. I havent looked at it real close, will look at it and see what the dependencies are and stuff...
I'm still trying to make sense of the manila mode9 files and the lua scripts to see if i can do something but nothing seems to be working. I'm actually starting to think i'm going to have to try and modify the exe with a hex editor.
when i including new client messenger from manila 2.5 to 2.1.19.19 i can't send even sms...
Yea thats because you are trying to send it through the manila 2.1 messaging area. If you use the attached file it will then go to the htc messaging client and you will be able to send text messages until you go into the all messages and click on a message.
I honestly can't believe there aren't more posts. Is this something that people just don't want???
Well here is where i'm at. I found the function that is being called when you press all messages. Of course I can't find the declaration of this function. It appears its alling the Shells messaging function. The function i found was ShellLocation_Messaging. I'm going to look deeper to see if i can use this to fix anything. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated
Just a thought! I know there is a can to diable 2.5 messaging! Will that provide some hints on how to make messaging work with 2.1?
I've seen the cab but i think its an actual app inistead of just modifying the manila we already have but it might work. I can give it a shot. To tell you the truth I'm starting to think its the contact utility dll that i have to modify.
@bxsteez i appreciate your work.. i yoinked your fixed tab and love it.... works great on my rom.. i have manilla 2.1 working perfect with the leo messaging enhancemen..
Thanks,
Josh
It only kinda works. Go into all messages and click on a text. It will take u back to the manila 2.1 messaging area and then you can't even send a text message at all. I've tried everything i know to get this thing to work. I think the shell messaging client changes when you use htc messaging client. I'm wondering if i integrate an older version of the client if it will make a diff
Does anyone know how to edit the lua scripts. The only programs i've found just constantly crash. I think i found a way to get this to work i just need to be able to edit the script.
I have HTC Messages 1.1 (build 1919.3512) from LEO (EnergyROM) and all is working fine - receivng, sending, composing, etc., all from within HTC Messaging app. It has some graphics glitch, at times, when in landscape. All rest good, SMS and MMS.
I am sure it will get better with higher release versions.
Is this Manila 2.1? And it all works from the manila messaging tab? When you go to all messages and click on a message it doesn't take to the universal contact application?
Hey there,
im not a cook in anyway but i like ur idea.
So, perhaps a little step on the way:
Is there a way to disable 2.1 Messaging?
So that tabbing on a massage brings me to WiMo threaded sms-screen?
Thanks
Yea there is a file that i posted earlier that will do that. It will only kinda do it though. It turns out that in the messaging.lua script it is calling a function to navigate to the people contacts screen which is where the messaging tab is. I feel like if i delete those if clauses and that function call we will have a solution. The problem i'm having is that the stupid compiler keeps crashing with some stupid nonexistant problem.
Bxsteez said:
Is this Manila 2.1? And it all works from the manila messaging tab? When you go to all messages and click on a message it doesn't take to the universal contact application?
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"Leo" EnergyROM is Manila 2.5. It won't help you I guess.