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I have a Cingular 8125, which I hadn't used for a while (got a Trinity
I am trying to set it up for my wife, so I attempted to unlock it and upgrade to WM6. It is a G3 (it had 2.26). I had upgraded it several times before. but was never able to bring it down to 1.xx in order to unlock it.
So, I started trying to downgrade it, but basically, every time it entered bootloader, it seemed to lose connection and it just timed out on the PC, without ever going to the update bar on the bootloader screen.
I ran IPL_SPL_3.08, and it upgraded fine. But still no go on downgrading.
Finally, I ran Shelltool (bug fixed) and managed to flash to OS 1.5.4.2. But, after the hard reset, it just stays on the blue Cingular screen (showing IPL 3.08; SPL 3.08; GSM 02.47.11; OS 1.5.4.2.)
I have tried flashing again with an original Cingular WWE ROM (RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe), with the 1.5.4.2 ROM, even with a WM6 ROM (again, through Shelltool.) I have placed it in a powered cradle, have tried both Shelltool and RUU flashes, both while in the blue Cingular screen, and while in Bootloader mode. I have disconnected and reconnected each time, and rebooted many times (both the Wizard and the PC.) I have hard-reset. I have also tried both with USB selected and unselected in Activesync.
The Shelltool seems to freeze. The official RUU gives "ERROR [296]: UPGRADE ONLY. The NBF file cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please get another NBF file." Or, alternately, it gives "ERROR [264]: CONNECTION."
Any ideas if this is repairable?
(Or should I cry (or take a hammer to the Wizard:-((
Mine is a 2.25 and it's a G4.. Isnt 2.26 a G4?
I think it was 2.26 (it may have been something like 2.27....), but it definitely didn't have the .000 at the end. I thought that the Wizards without the .000 were G3. Did I screw up?
Madcap180 said:
Mine is a 2.25 and it's a G4.. Isnt 2.26 a G4?
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2.25.0001 or 2.26.0001 would be a G4
2.25 or 2.26 would be a G3
MacGuy2006 said:
I have a Cingular 8125, which I hadn't used for a while (got a Trinity
I am trying to set it up for my wife, so I attempted to unlock it and upgrade to WM6. It is a G3 (it had 2.26). I had upgraded it several times before. but was never able to bring it down to 1.xx in order to unlock it.
So, I started trying to downgrade it, but basically, every time it entered bootloader, it seemed to lose connection and it just timed out on the PC, without ever going to the update bar on the bootloader screen.
I ran IPL_SPL_3.08, and it upgraded fine. But still no go on downgrading.
Finally, I ran Shelltool (bug fixed) and managed to flash to OS 1.5.4.2. But, after the hard reset, it just stays on the blue Cingular screen (showing IPL 3.08; SPL 3.08; GSM 02.47.11; OS 1.5.4.2.)
I have tried flashing again with an original Cingular WWE ROM (RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe), with the 1.5.4.2 ROM, even with a WM6 ROM (again, through Shelltool.) I have placed it in a powered cradle, have tried both Shelltool and RUU flashes, both while in the blue Cingular screen, and while in Bootloader mode. I have disconnected and reconnected each time, and rebooted many times (both the Wizard and the PC.) I have hard-reset. I have also tried both with USB selected and unselected in Activesync.
The Shelltool seems to freeze. The official RUU gives "ERROR [296]: UPGRADE ONLY. The NBF file cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please get another NBF file." Or, alternately, it gives "ERROR [264]: CONNECTION."
Any ideas if this is repairable?
(Or should I cry (or take a hammer to the Wizard:-((
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I thought I read somewhere that IPL/SPL 3.08 was a bad convert from a Charmer? If this is true and the Charmer bootloaders are different than the Wizard bootloaders then you may have put yourself in a bind.
The fact that you can still get past bootloader is promising even though the phone doesn't finish booting.
Try flashing from the bootloader (tricolor IPL/SPL screen with USB in the corner)
Thanks. I've been trying to flash in both bootloader or "blue" screen, but no go so far. I just tried the official Cingular .nbf through shelltool: it spent about 30 minutes (in bootloader,) then it stopped responding. It's been doing this forever now.
Any other options left?
MacGuy2006 said:
Thanks. I've been trying to flash in both bootloader or "blue" screen, but no go so far. I just tried the official Cingular .nbf through shelltool: it spent about 30 minutes (in bootloader,) then it stopped responding. It's been doing this forever now.
Any other options left?
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You CAN'T use shelltool in boot loader mode! it needs the OS and the TRUFFS to read and write to the phone.
Any phone that doesn't go past the boot loader must be fixed with mtty, RUU or SD card...
Thanks for the info. I've been reading about mmty and just downloaded it. But I only have a 4GB card handy (from my Trinity.) I might be able to find my old 2GB one at home.
Edit: Well, this is what I just found: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308772&highlight=mtty+wizard
It seems that the IPL_SPL 3.08 might be a real problem. I'll try the card flash, but based on the above thread, I am not holding my breath.
If anyone has a suggestion or a solution, please let me know.
Thanks!
BTW, if the problem is indeed with the IPL_SPL 3.08, then perhaps the suggestion that we upgrade to it (in red) here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435 should be removed, so that we don't get more expensive bricks.
Just to clear up the question about 3.08 IPL/SPL, it isn't an issue at all. It's been tested thoroughly to work well, better than 2.26.
TaurusBullba said:
Just to clear up the question about 3.08 IPL/SPL, it isn't an issue at all. It's been tested thoroughly to work well, better than 2.26.
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After I unlocked my wizard and before I try any new ROM, I always burn the latest German wizard ROM with 3.08 IPL/SPL "ruu_vario_aku3.3_3822_382120_026911_tmo_de_ger_ship". Then I downgrade the Radio ROM to Cingular 2.25.11. Then I burn my ROM of choice. I've found it works best for me. I've never had a problem with 3.08.
TaurusBullba said:
Just to clear up the question about 3.08 IPL/SPL, it isn't an issue at all. It's been tested thoroughly to work well, better than 2.26.
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What are the grounds for such a comparison? How to tell that an SPL works better than another? As far as i know the SPL is there to initialise the hardware and to apply security restrictions.
What i'd like to know is if anyone has been successful in downgrading IPL/SPL from 3.xx to 2.xx as itsme once said that there was a security in newer SPL's preventing downgrading (i must look for it...)
cheers
O.K., so maybe it's not 3.08, but something has sure gone bad.
I am trying to use mtty 1.1.42.538, but see only Port 1, Port 2 and USB. When I type in \\.\WSCUSBSH001 I get a message that it cannot open the \\.\WSCUSBSH001 port.
I tried resetting as described in message #7 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=264652&highlight=mtty1.42, but nothing happened.
I also tried choosing USB, then typed in r2sd all and again, nothing happened - I just get CMD> again....
So, can anyone think of anything else I can do, or should I just drop it from the 4th floor?
What IPL/SPL values you have at this moment?
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What IPL/SPL values you have at this moment?
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Both ar 3.08, and I have the feeling that this is why I cannot flash the official Cingular ROM over what I have now. Which makes me wonder: is there an official Wizard ROM file combined with the IPL/SPL 3.08? This may at leas allow me to flash.
MacGuy2006 said:
Both ar 3.08, and I have the feeling that this is why I cannot flash the official Cingular ROM over what I have now. Which makes me wonder: is there an official Wizard ROM file combined with the IPL/SPL 3.08? This may at leas allow me to flash.
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I had also upgraded my IPL/SPL to 3.08 -- up from the 2.25 on the newest Cingular ROM.
Anytime I've flashed to a WM6 ROM, I've been able to downgrade to the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM -- which changes the IPL/SPL to 2.26 -- with no problems before upgrading to a WM6 ROM. After flashing the WM6, I then go back in and upgrade the IPL/SPL once again to 3.08. It's not failed me yet.
O.K., I've spent the weekend screwing around with this:
If I run any of the original 2.xx ROMs, I get "you need an updated utility" message and then the utility goes to the "Exit" screen. (I am assuming this is because of the 3.08 IPL/SPL.)
mtty tells me I don't have permissions when I tried to load the ROM on a SD card (remember, the 8125 is not SuperCD-ed.). It also does nothing when I type "set 14 0" or "task 28."
But, I found that I can run the XDA Mobile 6 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310954) and it actually starts updating, but when it gets to 99%, the bar on the 8125 turns red and after a while the Update Utility tells me that the Wizard is not connected anymore.
Got very excited when I tried mattk_r's InGeNeTiCs' ROM(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311144): it started updating, went all the way to 100%, at which point the bar on the 8125 did turn red, however after a period of time the utility gave me the "Congratulations" message and told me I've successfully upgraded. But then, the 8125 reboots, and unfortunately, it still hangs on the boot screen, and it still gives the OS as 1.5.4.2. Have tried a number of times, always the same:-(
Oh, I tried upgrading the Radio only, and it worked: I was able to upgrade to 02.61.11.
So, does it seem like there is hope, and can anyone think of what else I can do?
MacGuy2006 said:
O.K., I've spent the weekend screwing around with this:
If I run any of the original 2.xx ROMs, I get "you need an updated utility" message and then the utility goes to the "Exit" screen. (I am assuming this is because of the 3.08 IPL/SPL.)
mtty tells me I don't have permissions when I tried to load the ROM on a SD card (remember, the 8125 is not SuperCD-ed.). It also does nothing when I type "set 14 0" or "task 28."
But, I found that I can run the XDA Mobile 6 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310954) and it actually starts updating, but when it gets to 99%, the bar on the 8125 turns red and after a while the Update Utility tells me that the Wizard is not connected anymore.
Got very excited when I tried mattk_r's InGeNeTiCs' ROM(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311144): it started updating, went all the way to 100%, at which point the bar on the 8125 did turn red, however after a period of time the utility gave me the "Congratulations" message and told me I've successfully upgraded. But then, the 8125 reboots, and unfortunately, it still hangs on the boot screen, and it still gives the OS as 1.5.4.2. Have tried a number of times, always the same:-(
Oh, I tried upgrading the Radio only, and it worked: I was able to upgrade to 02.61.11.
So, does it seem like there is hope, and can anyone think of what else I can do?
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If I were you I might be talking to IMEI unlockers. Their process works from bootloader and might be able to get you CID unlocked and fix your corrupted CID area, which seems to be your major problem atm. In any case I would contact them and explain your situation and see if they think their software will unlock your phone. If so then you should be good to go once you CID is "uncorrupted" and unlocked.
one question: can You HARD RESET your device?
Do you have "format failed" message?
if so, you have 50/50 per cent for resurrection.
3.08 is not direct problem here anyway..., version is not exactly matter of problem...
(imei? now? lol)...
Thanks!
Yes, I can hard-reset fine and it claims to reformat fine.
Tx for the suggestion - I will contact IMEI (they unlocked my Trinity before the free unlockers were available
I was upgrading my t-mobile 8150(?) the k-jam with the new windows mobile 6 and in the middle of it my comp crashed!! now i am stuck at the bootloader mode (3 colored screen) and when i try to redo it i get to 99% and get a 302 error message. i follow the instructions given but keeps going in circles. its a G3 so is my phone bricked or is there a way to save it? i've been looking at this site all day but am now just more confused. lol thanks for your help!
No your phone isn't bricked. As long as you can get into the bootloader screen you should be ok. What you need to do is flash an official carrier rom either tmobile 2.26 or wizard love rom after you that than you can reflash to wm6. look at the stickies in the wizard forums that is where you can find these roms.
Thanks for the info but seems my techno curse continues. I tried the wizard love rom but it was in a different language and whem i tried the tmobile 2.26 i got "error 274 connection." Any more suggestions? Again thanks soo much for an issue I'm sure has been posted here a thouand times.
This happens to me all the time. I always use the Cingular 2.25 rom, it works perfectly and I have an I-mate K-JAM. Then, do the WM6 upgrade, but ensure all of your Norton and Antivirus and background running apps are shut down. Good luck.
yes also take out your mini sd card if you have one. even though its in another language it will work. "AVANTI means next. so just keep hitting that and you will be fine.
hmm been trying to d/l the Cingular 2.25 rom but the link seems to have stoped working...
It;s aaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllliiiiiiiiiiivvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! for now lol Lets see what happens after i install wm6 I couldn't get the cingular rom but i had already dowbloaded the button rom i found here earlier and it worked like a dream!! quick and easy!! thank you all soooooo much!
hi all. one more little thing. after adding the new rom to get it back to life, now the numbers don't match so i can't upgrade to wm6. i have ipl 1.01 spl 2.26. advice?
flash to the tmo 2.26 or cingular 2.25...that will give you an IPL/SPL of 2.xx
then, you can flash to WM6
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there's any other way to flash without usb cable?? sorry to bug in this thread but i lost my usb connection somehow and did a hard reset and still doesn't work. my phone charges. and no is not my computer cuz my wifes phone same as mine does sync i have a tmobile mda also known as the cingular 8125.
fallon75 said:
hi all. one more little thing. after adding the new rom to get it back to life, now the numbers don't match so i can't upgrade to wm6. i have ipl 1.01 spl 2.26. advice?
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keep reflashing buttons rom until both ipl/spl are the same number. if they are different, then the flash didn't complete correctly. (it happens often, so it's kinda normal). just keep reflashing. after both ipl/spl are the same, then CID unlock and then update to an official carrier...then flash a wm6.
can anyone help me??
Check if "USB" displayed when in bootloader mode (Camera+reset) with Wizard connected to PC.
If so, you may try to flash another ROM through bootloader.
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Check if "USB" displayed when in bootloader mode (Camera+reset) with Wizard connected to PC.
If so, you may try to flash another ROM through bootloader.
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it does shows but how can i flash?? it still won't connect o my pc. my pc doesn't recognize it. but it does recognize my wifes phone.
Try to run RUU straight with Wizard connected and running in bootloader mode
I somehow, have made a major mistake.
I was going to be updating my 8125, so I followed the steps closely.
Downgraded to Button 1.01 (Worked flawlessly)
Unlocked with Lokiwiz
Noticed I still had SPL 2.25, attempted to reinstall Button ROM, and now I get this error.
I've tried reROMing to the normal Cingy rom, nothing. I can't update to the T-Mo 2.26, I can't install any other ROM.
Searching brought up a whole bunch of nothin'.
How do I fixed phone?
Edit: After rebooting, doing 2 more unlock/CID unlocks and a quick "Please god make it work!" it decided to accept the 1.01 ROM, and is in the process of updating it again. Hopefully this time it'll work!
Great! Got it to update to the firmware I wanted. Now I have a tiny problem..
It won't connect to T-Mobile. It's sitting with the radio signal bar with the alternating "..." underneath. It says I should be connected to T-Mobile under the Phone tab, but I'm getting nothing.
Flight mode is off, I've reset a few times and I'm at a loss.
Edit: Hang on a sec.. It's still showing IPL/SPL as 1.01. Might that be the problem?
ztagged said:
Great! Got it to update to the firmware I wanted. Now I have a tiny problem..
It won't connect to T-Mobile. It's sitting with the radio signal bar with the alternating "..." underneath. It says I should be connected to T-Mobile under the Phone tab, but I'm getting nothing.
Flight mode is off, I've reset a few times and I'm at a loss.
Edit: Hang on a sec.. It's still showing IPL/SPL as 1.01. Might that be the problem?
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Your phone is havivg IPL/SPL 1.01.thats why it's not working properly,you got to have an IPL/SPL 2.xx.therefore keep on trying to flash T-mobile 2,26 to get IPL/SPL 2.26 or flash thr official cingular Rom to bring it back to it's default status.
secondly download WST tool to verify the CID lock.unlock status pf the phone.Download,install it and than choose CID Action button to check if it's CID locked/unlocked.You can get the WST tool from this link:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329170
BTW,what is the GSM version on the phone,download Radio 2.19.11 Rom version and upgrade,it might solve the problem,but you got to have to upgrade to ipl/spl 2.xx,so try and flash T-mobile 2.26.
Hi All, tried to updrade charmer to touch flo ver2.1 but had error that host disconnected, now will only boot to tmobile splash screen with this info (noticed os has changed but cant remember original) also tried soft and hard resets to no avail
IPL 2.06 .0001
SPL 2.06 .0001
GSM 02.19.21
OS 4.0.0.0
I can also boot to the three colour screen and it recognises when the usb is plugged in but i cant seem to flash anything, i have tried a number of RUU but get different error messages, mostly that i need a newer upgrade tool or invalid vendor etc.
any help greatly appreciated
UPDATE: managed to flash this rom, (charmer_wm6_vlono_004.4) says all was ok but still stuck in tmobile boot screen??? info still the same
IPL 2.06 .0001
SPL 2.06 .0001
GSM 02.19.21
OS 4.0.0.0
HELP!!!
UPDATE: Managed to load latest tmobile charmer rom RUU_Charmer_38221_382116_026921_TMO_UK_WWE_Ship.exe
Will i be able to load touchflo 2.1 now?
cheers
i got the same problem and i fixed it^^
1. i started charmer in bootloader mode (press and hold power button while you reset with stylus)
2. i installed T-Mobile AKU 3.3 from handy-faq.de
3. i installed [vlodeck TouchFLO WM6 ver. 2.1]
works perfect^^
http://www.handy-faq.de/forum/htc_charmer_download_157/
Nokia 3650 said:
http://www.handy-faq.de/forum/htc_charmer_download_157/
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oh yeah.. i forgot
I used a crude method of fully charging the battery. I downgraded to the default T-mobile ROM that came with the unit. After the flashing process, was complete, the unit rebooted (as it was supposed to), then switched itself off after showing the SPL/IPL data for about 3 seconds.
The battery, was fully charged in a universal charger. To get it to turn on again, I have to remove the battery for a few seconds. A hard reset, doesn't fix the problem. I can still enter the boot-loader though
I've tried all the various ROM files on this site, with no success. Any suggestions?
I've PMed you saying that you can try flashing WM5 prophet rom. It should work.
Thanks for the PM. Unfortunately, the propht ROM produces the same result.
Hi!
Help please!
My MDA compact II was died!
IPL 1.13
SPL 2.06.0000
GSM 01.15.20
OS 2.6.2.27
This is incorrect!
I don't know what is that?
I am in a mess!!!
Help please!
mine died too
when I try to install AKU 3.3 always at 80 % i get a 302 connection error