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I'd like to use the HTC Touch keyboard on my Tilt for the times that I don't want to slide out the keyboard, but installing it seems to break the autocorrect feature when I am using the hardware keyboard. I see a few other people mentioning this in various threads, but I have yet to see any mention of a solution to this problem. I've tried all sorts of combinations of enabling and disabling autocorrect and various xt9 features, but the only way I can get autocorrect back is by uninstalling the HTC Touch keyboard.
By autocorrect, I'm referring to the ability to type in "il" and have it automatically change to "I'll"
Hi - did anybody find a solution to this? I've been searching high and low!
I'm in exactly the same boat - I love HTC keypad as it really helps me use the Kaiser one-handed, but I really miss the auto-correct on the hardware keyboard.
Is there a version of this SIP that doesn't break auto-correct?
I tried the HTC phonepad, but just couldn't get used to it after using the newer Keypad.
I would love to have a good T9 style SIP, but also have autocorrect on the hardware keyboard......anybody that can help?
Thanks!
I'd noticed that too, quite annoying as the touch keypad is so useful.
6thElement said:
I'd noticed that too, quite annoying as the touch keypad is so useful.
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I too found the same issues yet I loved the T9 input using the touch pad. I removed the xT9 one and installed this one instead.
You still get T9 and it works fast too. The internal keyboard auto correct also works with it too.
Is also made by HTC but can't remember where I found it. May have been on here before or recently.
I've been earching for a solution to this as well for months now. The autocomplete that XT9 disables is part of wm6 which it calls "word completion." When XT9 is installed via htc keypad, word completion ceases to work along with the feature that auto-fills contacts as you start to type a new SMS.
Thanks for posting that pkonepad cab, but unfortunately.that' the sip that radatia mentioned above. The buttons on the new HTC touch phonepad are bigger and easier to use.
What we really need is someone here that knows some programming to somehow alter the touch phonepad so that xt9 can be toggled on and off (without a registry change and restart), or better yet somehow change it to use a T9 like the phonepad's instead of xt9...
I have exact same problem. I love the htc virtual keyboard because became useful. However once I installed it, the hardware keyboard word completion no longer work I need that too because I use it.
I have another question, do anyone know if I can make the default windows word completion to auto select the top most word suggested list so I can just enter space bar to select it. Now I always have to use down key to select the word 1st. Not efficient.
Just wanted to bump this topic. There have got to be others out there who share our frustration... and someone who can put an end to it!
I've given up on the HTC Keypad, much as I like it and it making the device usable one-handed.
Have moved onto the PocketCM Keyboard as my preferred SIP just so that I can still keep word completion when using the hardware keyboard.
Hope that someone posts here if a solution is eventually found......
oh man!
I'm the opposite.. how I wish the hardware keyboard is not auto correct enabled when I use it.
I've tried dis-abling the auto correct etc.. dun seem to work..
now using Resco keyboard..
it's the next best thing, but kinda defeats the purpose of getting the tytn II in the first place.
Yes the touch keyboard has many issues when used on kaiser. i can't get autocomplete to work with the hardware keyboard either unfortunately.
I do know that "multiword completion" in the xt9 settings or whatever is a bad thing and causes other problems, so i uncheck that. But, still can't figure out how to get autocomplete to work.
I spent a lot of time searching and installing/uninstalling these things to try and find a perfect mix, no luck though. It's still QUITE usable for me, but i would like auto complete for hardware keyboard, though, i dont think i'd use it as i type realy fast anyways with it.
It's quite hard to justify buying a keyboard when we are able to install a free one that *almost* does what we want! pcmkeyboard with iphone buttons and XL touch skin is good, but i am realy starting to like xt9.
:-( i have this problem now and love the keyboard...
I have L26 V9 6.1 professional rom...and i am having trouble using third party on screen keyboards. Ive downloaded and installed cootek touchpal, pocketcm keyboard and htc touch qwerty and none of them work. I have installed the sipchanger app also to make the onscreen keyboard stick after a soft reset but i cant even get the keyboard to come on the screen after i instal them succesfully, I go to start > settings input and once i choose the new keyboard, usually in WM 6.0 the keyboard would show up then i would need to use sip changer to make it stick....but when im in input settings the keyboards wont even show up on the screen. I dunno if this is a rom problem and i should post this in the rom section but is their another sip application i can use to make keyboards show up? sip changer isnt working for me but when i used duttys 6.1 apr 29 rom , my keyboards worked so i duunno whats up with the v9 rom......can someone help me figure this out so i can get an on screen keyboard to work...this rom didnt come with another third party app keyboard so i desperatly need another on screen keyboard other then this really small default white one...someone plz help
SIP keyboards
Same thing happenning to me. I have tried different third party .cabs and everything seems fine with the installation, but when I go to select the diamond keyboard nothing happens. Even if I use SIPchanger. It will do nothing.....
I got to work once, but then it stopped again. Some help please.
Holy Crap. What the hell!?
Seriously guys, If you posted this in Leo's V9 Thread. You would have gotten the answer.
Plus I know for darn sure that there are multiple answers in the v9 thread on how to do it.
You know how long that thread is? how long do we have to keep reading crap just so that we can get a decent answer? Why not just save us the trouble and tell us the answer here?
Well I'll search for it since I'm not lazy... but it would have been better if someone actually responded to this thread with a real answer.
starmena said:
You know how long that thread is? how long do we have to keep reading crap just so that we can get a decent answer? Why not just save us the trouble and tell us the answer here?
Well I'll search for it since I'm not lazy... but it would have been better if someone actually responded to this thread with a real answer.
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The problem with your theory, is that others may have the same issue in the future. Then, when they go the the rom thread to which the problem pertains, they can't find the answer because it is in a whole other sub-forum instead of being in the rom thread.
If you are having issues with a rom, go to that thread and post your issue. Then when a fix is found, it is in the rom thread for future users to find.
I appreciate your frustration, but it is for the betterment of the community for the problems and fixes to be posted in the rom thread to which they pertain.
Thank you for understanding.
o.k. There seems to be two ways to solve this.
If you want to keep the software keyboard do this:
go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...2&postcount=36
1. Download & install the KforTouchPro app.
2. Launch KforTouchPro (It is installed into the Games folder)
3. Click the Switch to M$ IME button.
4. Click Minimize in the lower right corner
5. Launch Logmein using PIE
6. Type away using your hardware keyboard.
If you only use the Hardware Keyboard and do not want to use KforTouchPro:
This is a simple Regedit.
[HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e001 0409]
(MS IME mode)
Ime File = \windows\compime.dll
Layout Text = COMP IME
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(HTC T9 mode)
Ime File = \windows\eT9ime.dll
Layout Text = eT9 IME
WOO HOO!!!!!!!! Thank you very much to KevinGibert, fhsieh, and Colorado_al
ricrellim said:
I am using pie on an at&t Fuze. The keyboard does not respond? I have seen several folks on here that say they use logmein.
Is this a fuze issue or a logmein issue?
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Same issue, on my TouchPro, with stock ROM and now with Elite ROM, same issue.
Anyone got any work around?
Same problem. Since my previous device was a Touch, I never missed/used a slide out keyboard. The keyboard works just fine on the Kaiser. I'm going to question Logmein on this issue.
glad to see i am not alone! I have been having the same problem
Yeah, one thing I dont understand is that the virtual keyboard from the apps doesnt work either...?
Also what Cab are you guys using for the remote client?
RACtrlCE?
I'm having the same issue, I think it would help if we all submitted a support ticket.
Ah, crap. Me too.
There is a workaround:
If you change your input method to the default WM keyboard by pressing to the right of the keyboard icon and choosing "Keyboard" before you start the session, you will be able to use the soft-keyboard. Still no hardware keyboard.
It sucks, but at least it works. If I can't have a fully functional LMI setup on my FUZE, I'm returning it.
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Ah, crap. Me too.
There is a workaround:
If you change your input method to the default WM keyboard by pressing to the right of the keyboard icon and choosing "Keyboard" before you start the session, you will be able to use the soft-keyboard. Still no hardware keyboard.
It sucks, but at least it works. If I can't have a fully functional LMI setup on my FUZE, I'm returning it.
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No go... that didn't work for me. I submitted a ticket and the tech did not understand what the problem was, I resubmitted. this is going to have to get resolved soon.
Nice, keep us posted, thanks for taking the time to make a ticket =)
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Nice, keep us posted, thanks for taking the time to make a ticket =)
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No prob, will do.
Fix
Here's an app someone made in another thread. Basically the reason the hardware keyboard won't work with some legacy apps is because of the way the touch pro's auto completion system works. This app lets you switch it off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2791652&postcount=36
Has anyone had the opportunity to test this app yet? I dont have my fuze with me today because I was kind enough to swap phones with my wife today to see if she wants to upgrade from her BB Pearl.
I would love to know if this works so I can update the first post with the info.
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No go... that didn't work for me. I submitted a ticket and the tech did not understand what the problem was, I resubmitted. this is going to have to get resolved soon.
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Make sure you're not using T9. On the QWERTY KBD, there is a switch for ABC - T9. Make sure it says ABC, then switch keyboards, and try it again.
Not sure, but worth a try.
I just tried the above posted CAB and it still does not work. The only keys that work... and they worked prior to the CAB were the arrow keys and the Del key.
Al,
Which ROM are you using?
I tried with this CAB in the past, didnt help.
T9 is one of the first thing I disable as well...
I just tryed again with Elite ROM, no changes. I can use shift/tab/del/enter/arrows, but no letters/numers/special characters =(
Just spoke to Support, they know about the issue, it has been escalated but there is no fix at this time nor is there a timeframe for an update.
Just wait till more people get there hands on FUZEs from AT&T, then they will blow their FUSEs!
So right now the best thing I can think of is to enable the onscreen keyboard (OSK.EXE) in windows and place a shortcut on ur quick lauch. What a shame... that we have this nice slideout keyboard and no use for it!
I feel bad for the people who pay for logmein pro, although I am sure they have more influence than I do as a free user.
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I feel bad for the people who pay for logmein pro, although I am sure they have more influence than I do as a free user.
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That would me me... Unfortunately, I don't think I influenced anyone during that call. Not to say that 200 - 300 support tickets for the same issue wouldn't either. IMO I think anyone having problems with the TP keyboard and logmein should report it to Logmein whether they pay or not, it might get them to move on it a bit faster.
https://secure.logmein.com/products/pro/supportcs.asp
I just submitted this just now...
Hello, I am currently unable to use the built-in keyboard of my new phone in Windows Mobile 6.1.
My phone is a HTC Touch Pro also known as the ATT Fuze, I and other user of the same phone all have the same issue.
I am told it`s a known Issue, can I expect a patch/workaround or a newer CAB to address this issue?
Thanks
Nicolas
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You might try the software found in this post:
http://www.forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2791652&postcount=36
It changes the weird raphael IME to a default one. Works for me in PocketGBA and even DOSBox and TomTom.
If it works, maybe you encourage the author to open a thread especially for this software as I searched quite a while to find a workin solution for the strange keyboard behaviour.
Not sure if I'm in the right forum for this. I was wondering if my 6.1 software will work on my Touch Pro with a 6.5 ROM. I've had some problems with TFDetacher so I lost it and a slight problem with WKTask, though it's functional and it's only an aesthetic problem. Was wondering if anyone knows about this or if you can post any program you've found that doesn't work. Maybe make a list. Searched but found nothing on this. Thanks for any info.
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Not sure if I'm in the right forum for this. I was wondering if my 6.1 software will work on my Touch Pro with a 6.5 ROM. I've had some problems with TFDetacher so I lost it and a slight problem with WKTask, though it's functional and it's only an aesthetic problem. Was wondering if anyone knows about this or if you can post any program you've found that doesn't work. Maybe make a list. Searched but found nothing on this. Thanks for any info.
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I havent faced any problems with any programs till now. I would say go ahead and install the apps and if there is any issue check the forums or raise a question. But i think you should be fine.
I know WKTask (or one of the task managers) has issues with WM6.5.
I've installed all of the same programs I used on WM6.1 and haven't had a problem with any of them.
Some apps don't use the WM6.5 native scrolling, so if something requires TouchFlo to scroll, the scrolling might not work, but the app should still work.
Trial and error it is. I've had some problems with WKTask, too. Black box in the upper right hand corner and I think it was causing my start menu not work. This thread can be closed. Thanks for the info.
*Second post is a quick tutorial of all the steps I did*
For the past year+ I lots of problems with my tilt. Terrible keyboard response problems, like the keyboard only working 25% of the time. The touch screen being unresponsive or slow 50% of the time. I've hated my phone. Thought it was just a piece of junk. I soft reset so much I thought the reset button was going to fail.
I tried nearly every new ROM that came out, each time after being dissapointed because my problems remained, then I'd move on to the disable xt9 cab, tilt keyboard fix cab, keyboard speed up cab (which I'm still not sure if works, since I now have my initial keyboard delay set at 0 and I don't know if I see a difference), etc. Tried the touch sensitivity registry edit, installed the (I think) x1 touch sensitivity cab. But nothing seemed to change a thing.
I had realized that most of my issues were software related because sometimes things would work fine (for a couple minutes). I've tried the press the hell out of the keyboard buttons fix that was supposed to regain contact between the key, and the sensor for the keyboard, and pretty much everything out there.
Then I recently installed the HTC ROM for the Tilt, and voila, I have a new phone, works nearly flawlessly.
Since then, I have installed Manila 2d (start with update 20, install everything included, then install the latest version) youtube/opera/google maps/audio manager/pictures etc. all work perfectly, installed the Manila2D v20 N2A patch which fixed the weather tab to show my home town, M2DC and applied a new skin, Total Commander (to move the edited weathercities file), Wstask (awesome), ATT Navigator, Windows Live (great for syncing contacts), and it works perfectly. It's fast. I can use my phone now without the struggle, and am happier than I've been in a long time.
I haven't heard anyone suggesting this so I thought I'd let everyone know. This is the phone I always wanted from my Tilt. I have to assume that the minor hardware differences between versions creates a problem with non-native ROM's, and if you are having problems I recommend trying a factory ROM made for your device, you may be pleasantly surprised.
Dustin
*edit* As I'm sure most know, there are hardware issues with the keyboard for many, this will obviously not fix those issues. However, I was able to fix the massive software issues I've had which also effected the keyboard. I still have a testy Y key, but it's not a huge issue when compared to what it was like before. My phone works great.
Correct Forum?
Flashed to the HTC ROM for the AT&T Tilt, download here:
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspxp_id=67&cat=2&dl_id=94
Soft reset immediately after screen alignment, and setup to avoid bloatware.
Adjusted settings for MediaNet:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1632060#post1632060
Installed the following cab files (here's the files, install order, what to do, how to do it, etc. is up to you, try to search for yourselves, I'll try to answer questions posed, included iFonz, and a couple other cabs for the heck of it if you guys wanna play with em):
http://http://rapidshare.com/files/239391014/Cab_Files.rar
Read the following post for info on installing m2d:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425851
To install telenav go to the following address from your phone:
ota.telenav.com/att/tnn
If you do it right, I think you'll be happy campers, enjoy!
Dustin
I've been having the same issues with my tilt as well. EXTREMELY annoying. I love the tilt, but hate that it constantly lags.
Do you have a link to the ROM from HTC?
The last ROM from HTC for the tilt gave me problems
Yes please post the link as i am also having this problem.
Thanks
Link inside!
Here y'all go. It's important to note that this is ROM build 1.62.502.0 and will change your radio to 1.27.14.09. Further info can be found HERE
HTC AT&T Tilt ROM
Different link to the Rom
Here is the link for the page HTC posted the Tilt ROM download if you would like to read first before downloading:
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=2&dl_id=94
Hope this helps you guys. For me it was night and day. Let me know if this helps you guys.
Also, I wonder if there are any ROM cooks out there who are interested in cooking ROM's based on the Tilt ROM. That would be sweeet!!!
Dustin
*edit* I'm not sure about the ROM tmnt.mikey posted, but the link I've posted does not change the radio to that version, I flashed and have radio version 1.65.21.18. I'm not sure what radio I was using pre-flash (oops).
does this work with kaiser as well?
because at&t does not have the front camera...
so if i flash to this rom, will it render my front camera unusable?
not that it's really that important, i'd rather have my keyboard functioning well again.
other than that, is there any complication if i run this on my kaiser?
because in the HTC page, it's said... only for at&t tilt...
Kaiser ROM
I have no way to know if this ROM will work for the Kaiser, someone would have to try it out and let us know. I can't imagine it would brick the phone, but the keyboard layout is different, and the front camera thing. However, you might look for the latest Kaiser ROM from HTC then apply all the cabs you want and see if that works for you. I installed the ATT ROM, then did a soft reset before the apps were loaded to save space and clutter, then installed just the cabs I prefer.
It's been almost a week now, and it is still working perfectly. I've installed almost 20 different cabs, it is running faster, and more stable than it ever has. I love my phone now. The difference is stunning. I haven't had any issues thus far, and I've never experienced that before. I hit a button and it works, I touch the screen it works. I'm going off about it so much because I want everyone to know this phone is not a lost cause. I'm still a little in shock how well it works. I had written it off, and thought between HTC, and Microsoft that this phone was just going to remain a glitchy pain in the rear. My phone was so difficult to use that I almost stopped texting all together. I was practically marking off each day on the calendar waiting for the remaining year of my contract to run out.
Dustin
Hi all..
my keyboard also hard to be pressed (X,B,N and fn key),other keys are perfect (easy to be pressed)..
im wondering why did that happen..
im using WM6.1 official for TyTN II,,so nothing is cooked..
anyone knows how to fix this issue?
cause it's so annoying to press thoses button hardly..sigh..
thank you..
berramm2001 said:
Hi all..
my keyboard also hard to be pressed (X,B,N and fn key),other keys are perfect (easy to be pressed)..
im wondering why did that happen..
im using WM6.1 official for TyTN II,,so nothing is cooked..
anyone knows how to fix this issue?
cause it's so annoying to press thoses button hardly..sigh..
thank you..
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i actually followed the link from dustintm...
but the download was not for my area (i'm in singapore)
and you can't download it anyways...
you need to key in your serial number...
and it has to match the region...
so if that really fixed the keyboard problem...
congrats to those guys in the same region as dustintm...
as for why it happened, i also don't know...
i read in some other thread that it's unlikely if it's dust or the rubber...
i also think it has to do with the ROM, since some days my 'a' keys works fine...
Asian TyTN II ROM
Hey Jonathan,
Here is the link to the HTC Asia download page for the TyTN II:
http://www.htc.com/au/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=13&act=sd&cat=all
Just so everyone knows, this ROM change I am talking about does not fix hardware related issues. I still have a testy "y" key, it works most of the time, but I do have to press it harder at times.
Prior to my find, I was having massive keyboard problems, sluggishness, having to press each key multiple times, etc. I was also having similar problems with the touch screen too.
This will not fix a hardware issue (obviously?). But I've found the new factory ROM has made my phone operate almost without flaw... for the first time. Responsive, stable and consistent. I can deal with the "y", I couldn't deal the snetacnes loking lik tihs (sentances looking like this (all the time)), and all the other problems/lock ups, etc.
Dustin
Keyboard problems sound like a hardware issue. You should try to find a local cellphone store that does repairs.
There is one in L.A. that can fix this for under $50.
Keyboard Problems
I found that I was experiencing hardware (keyboard), AND software related issues (keyboard, touch screen, sluggishness, and lock-ups). After installing this ROM all software issues have disappeared. I am very certain of this. One example is that occasionally the keyboard would work almost flawlessly (with the exception of the y key) and other times it was a complete struggle, multiple keypresses to register once, delay, etc. That made it clear to me that I was having software related issues.
I imagine it could have been ROM issues, or software related conflicts, but either way, I have solved my problems. I flashed to the latest HTC ATT Tilt ROM, and the following programs/cabs:
HTC Enchasements
HTC Audio Manager 2.0
herg62123 FSP, DShow, WMP Yo...
HTC Album 2.0
Google Maps
XDA-SPC-Noonski HTC YouTube
herg62123 2DManila_1_20_19131...
Customization Customize_Tool
snctln M2DC
C. Ghisler & Co. Total Commander
Debarron Manila2D v20N2A Patch
Windows Live 10.6.0034.0800 (Fixed)
waku WkTASK
AT&T Navigator
XDA-Team Opal Volume Control
Systweak Inc Reg Cleaner
SJ SamsungOmnia_Driver_D3D
Massimo Colored Top Bar
ELF Calculator Skin
The EquinoXe Wizard ReTOUCHed...
JUVS HTC Enlarge Start Menu
HTC WMP Touch Skin
Moble Software Design, LLC FreeCaddie
J.S. Advanced Configuration Tool 3.2
Microsoft .NET CF 3.5
XDA-Team NEW M2D
Dustin
BTW Trjons thanks for your post.
be a hero post all your cabs or links
So, it is heresy you speak! Stock rom! Yeah, I too am sick of the laggy unreliable roms. WAY too much wasted time, energy and effort. Gone back to ATT even though on TMO. How about posting your cabs or links for the lazy ones of us out here?
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So, it is heresy you speak! Stock rom! Yeah, I too am sick of the laggy unreliable roms. WAY too much wasted time, energy and effort. Gone back to ATT even though on TMO. How about posting your cabs or links for the lazy ones of us out here?
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Also, did you get rid of the AT&T bloatware on yours as well? On a quest for the perfect ROM myself, so I will keep watching the thread for more info.
Would like to see those links as well.
If you want to leave out the ATT bloat ware, after you go through the screen align, do a reset. It will fail to run the script for the **** add ons and then you have basically a virgin rom.
Cab files
Hey lazy people ! Here's a link to all my cabs:
http://rapidshare.com/files/239391014/Cab_Files.rar
I'm somewhat lazy too, so you're going to have to download all of them then pick through to get the ones you want. Enjoy!
Dustin
Thanks
Your're a hero! Thanks for the cabs
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHOA! Virus detected "win32/virut" after extracting file then accessing folder with "glossy black bars.exe"
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hopefully I've removed the infected file.
I didn't know glossyblackbars.exe had a virus???
Don't need it anyway, I deleted it, recompressed the cab files and re-upped to rapidshare. I edited all my posts with the new zip link.
Please let me know if it's virus free now... so sorry!
Dustin
Thanks so much, Dustin!!! I think I will be loading the AT&T 6.1 ROM again, following your fixes, and praying that my 2-PC ActiveSync problem somehow gets resolved along the way, too. (We need a "crossing fingers" smilie! HA!)
I'm just not looking forward to setting my Tilt up all over again. Must wait until I'm in the mood.
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I didn't know glossyblackbars.exe had a virus???
Don't need it anyway, I deleted it, recompressed the cab files and re-upped to rapidshare. I edited all my posts with the new zip link.
Please let me know if it's virus free now... so sorry!
Dustin
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