Downgrading Advice - PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General

Hi All,
My wife got my an XDA 11i it has an upgrade to wm 6.1, it works fine however the wifi doesnt work and it is a little slow, basically i would like to get back the original os version windows 2003 so my questions are as follows.
1. can i downgrade to the original oS
2. Where can i get the rom from
3. Or is there a standalone wireless driver.
Thanks in advance
Mark

Then Mark you have something a lot of people (not me) would give their eye teeth for a XDA IIi with more than 2003SE are you absolutely positive that you have????
But I would have thought that a download of the last "Real" ROM from O2's Irish site (loads of links around here if you search) would have sorted it back to 2003SE

Its definitely 6.1 but without wireless its useless to me as i need to use it on the move wirelessly, what are the irish url's
I needs these roms asap and you could spend weeks on this site serching the forum and ive just started a business and i require the xda on the go.
i just want a xda11i original rom so i can make sure the wireless isnt a hardware issue them i may upgrade again once i know it works.
Thanks Mark

Given all the information above i would say this is actually an XDA II, aka Himalaya, that would account for both the WM6.1 and the absence of WiFi. easy way to check is go to
Start - Settings - Device Information and select the Identity tab, report back which Model it is. i am not a gambling person but even money says it is PH10B, this makes it a Himalaya.
As for the advice re ROMs and Ireland site, search www.O2.ie for ROMs for both Himalaya and Alpine, XDA II and IIi respectively. Make sure you get the right ROM as you run the risk of wrecking it completely.

Hi Deedee,
It looks like it is an XDA 11, so it looks like there aint no wireless.
So it is now the xda 2003 rom i need.
Thanks

It's Xmas, I am in a good mood so here's the link, just pick the right ROM.
O2 ireland XDA ROM
Took two clicks and one search, go to O2.ie, search for "XDA ROM" and pick the fourth option.
Personally i'd stay with WM6.1, the Himalaya I have for mucking about with is WM6, never felt the need to return to WM2003. Is there a technical reason for downgrading? You are going to fond so much that won't work it's probably not worth the effort, apart from the experience. Also you may not get the Extended ROM back even following the downgrade.

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Upgrading to WM5.0 - Help Required

Hi All!
I am interested in upgrading my O2 XDA IIs (which I assume is a Blue Angel) to Windows Mobile v5.0. However, I am new to the ROM Upgrade scene, and therefore have a few questions!
1) Will my phone still work after I have upgraded? I use O2 on a post-pay GPRS contract.
2) Are there any downsides to having to upgrade?
If someone could either post back here or contact me through any of my listed methods to assist me in upgrading the phone?
Many Thanks!
~ Paul
skenmy said:
Hi All!
I am interested in upgrading my O2 XDA IIs (which I assume is a Blue Angel) to Windows Mobile v5.0. However, I am new to the ROM Upgrade scene, and therefore have a few questions!
1) Will my phone still work after I have upgraded? I use O2 on a post-pay GPRS contract.
2) Are there any downsides to having to upgrade?
If someone could either post back here or contact me through any of my listed methods to assist me in upgrading the phone?
Many Thanks!
~ Paul
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Try reading Wiki..
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM5_Home
This will give you all the information you need to make the decision.. Remember, it needs to be your decision and not what anyone else recommends.. Personally, I still use the WM2003SE as it's better suited for my business needs and I need the [relative] stability that 2003 gives..
You also need to consider your skill level in playing with your device.. not only about "taking backdoor routes" to updating your BA but to also tweeking it using a Registry Editor..
There's nothing worse then seeing a post stating "HELP - I'VE BORKED MY BA!" as they were not too sure what they were doing..
Remember, reading is the best form of knowledge!
Hope this helps..?
Cheers.
I looked through the wiki earlier (before my post) - no details on whether it would still work. I took the plunge anyway and I am glad I did It worked fine.

Don't hate me...many wm5 basic questions

I know you're all sick of posts about Windows Mobile 5.0 - I've read the FAQ, ubt I'm still a little confused. I'm not really a hacker - a firmware update is a big deal to me, let alone a complete new ROM!!
In the wiki thing there are four versions of WM5 for the Blue Angel (Or XDA IIs as I knew it before I came here). Where have these come from? Are these unofficial hacks, which will void my warranty and not necessarily work? Why are there four different versions of what should be the same thing?
Do Microsoft themselves produce a WM5 update for this device? Is it officially supported? I have a corporate device, and I don't mind using this as an excuse to upgrade to the XDA Exec, but I don't want my boss to tell me I wasted money on a new device when I could have just upgraded mine to use MS Push mail.
Thanks, and sorry for the muppet n00b post!
>Where have these come from?
From talented people who thinks that original ROM sucks
>Are these unofficial hacks, which will void my warranty and not necessarily work?
Yes.
>Why are there four different versions of what should be the same thing?
They are like programs, some works better than others even though they are the same thing (e.g. web browser, all the same thing). And probably the most noticeable is the ext rom where different version will have different supporting software included.
>Do Microsoft themselves produce a WM5 update for this device?
No. Microsoft to not seems to support any WM5 (or W2K) device's OS. It is up to the manufacturer to do the supporting/upgrading. E.g. HP provide their own upgrades/support for older PDA (e.g. Hx4000 series) to upgrade to WM5
>Is it officially supported?
If you get an official update (e.g. from your phone company) it will be supported. But I don't there is an official upgrade to WM5 for BA devices. Double check and correct me if I'm wrong. But, you might get lucky/unlucky to have athe push mail support, I guess.
>I have a corporate device, and I don't mind using this as an excuse to upgrade to the XDA Exec, but I don't want my boss to tell me I wasted money on a new device when I could have just upgraded mine to use MS Push mail.
I would suggest you get a new one (as it is not your own money). Unless your boss or people around him is highly technical about HTC devices, it is very unlikely that he will know if there is an upgrade for it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=310752#310752
There are some other posts describing the ROMs in this forum. Do a search for all the rom names in one query and you'll find discussion on them.
Excellent, thats answered all my queries! Thanks a lot...
And thanks for not hating me!
I figured this would be an appropriate place to ask this.
Last Week I purchased a used sx66/PH20B1 (cingular) and obviously looking to upgrade to WM 5.0
After a week of looking through this forum, I'm a bit confused as to which version I need. I don't want to turn my device into a paperweight.
I read the post of WM5 Roms summaries which was very helpful.
I saw the "ROM to WM 5 Build 14343 " for GSM PH20B1. at THIS post This seems like the most appropriate one But i'm not sure if this is like the best "unofficial" one to use. OR should I use one such as tuma or logout?
Benq-siemens has a ROM update on their website HERE
not sure if this is WM5 though..or just an update to WM2003
Please help
Thanks!
If yout thinking of uprading to WM5 to use push email then i'm afraid your out of luck, the push email element of WM5 first came out in AKU 2, so far no matter how hard we try (mainly tuatara, grats to him) no-one has managed to get anything above AKU 1.1 booting on a BlueAngel, so in short NO PUSH EMAIL!
looks lik your gonna have to get a shiney new universal
Midget_1990 said:
If yout thinking of uprading to WM5 to use push email then i'm afraid your out of luck, the push email element of WM5 first came out in AKU 2, so far no matter how hard we try (mainly tuatara, grats to him) no-one has managed to get anything above AKU 1.1 booting on a BlueAngel, so in short NO PUSH EMAIL!
looks lik your gonna have to get a shiney new universal
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I don't care about Push email. I don't mind checking my email once and a while instead of getting it immediatly. I just want WM5 for the new features. (Maybe I'm crazy and it's not worth it :?: )
I just want to make sure I use the right ROM when upgrading so I don't destroy my device
Thanks for the info though..I didn't know that
my post was actually in reply to the first guy, i hadn't even read yours
with regards to your situation you can use any WM5 rom (TuMa, Logout's, Ivan's or ArtZ's) however you must edit the 'set operator.bat' in a text editor (I use notepad) so that all referances to 'PH20B' are changed to 'PH20B1', then follow the instructions in the readme as normal.
Personally on rom choice i would reccomend TuMa for ease of use (but wait until 1.5 as 1.3 is slow an 1.4 is buggy) or Ivan's as a clean rom that you can customise yourself.
Midget_1990 said:
my post was actually in reply to the first guy, i hadn't even read yours
with regards to your situation you can use any WM5 rom (TuMa, Logout's, Ivan's or ArtZ's) however you must edit the 'set operator.bat' in a text editor (I use notepad) so that all referances to 'PH20B' are changed to 'PH20B1', then follow the instructions in the readme as normal.
Personally on rom choice i would reccomend TuMa for ease of use (but wait until 1.5 as 1.3 is slow an 1.4 is buggy) or Ivan's as a clean rom that you can customise yourself.
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Cool beans. thanks! Do these roms have applications such as Terminal Services, Windows Media Player 10, Outlook etc? (I didn't see it in the list, and not sure if you can download them) These are what I really want, And couldn't find info on where to download them.
And lastly, is it easy to revert back to WM2003 if you don't have the original ROM (Just incase it doesn't work out for me)
Sorry for all the questions. :?
Midget_1990 said:
my post was actually in reply to the first guy
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I have a NAME, you know...
i can never do anything right these days...
sorry fishkake!
SkiRacer2144 said:
Cool beans. thanks! Do these roms have applications such as Terminal Services, Windows Media Player 10, Outlook etc? (I didn't see it in the list, and not sure if you can download them) These are what I really want, And couldn't find info on where to download them.
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yes they are inlcuded, you can find links in the BA WM5 wiki or by seaching this forum (they are all on teh first page )
SkiRacer2144 said:
And lastly, is it easy to revert back to WM2003 if you don't have the original ROM (Just incase it doesn't work out for me)
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yes, just go to the seimens website and download thier latest update, that is easiest, however you can also mix and match bits of other 2k3se roms and use a later radio version (afaik 1.13 is the best)
hope this helps

O2 XDA IIi A list Apps

Hi! I'm a newbie in this forum and i just got an O2 XDA IIi running WM SE 2003 with all its shipped ROM and ext ROMs. I've been reading posts here for some time and the way I understand it, upgrades like WM5/WM6 and Rom for alpine is kinda difficult or impossible.
I guess my work around here, is to just to add essentials apps, to keep my alpine running fast and smooth. I'm a physician by profession so my XDA is so essential for me.
Anyone of the gurus here recommend any apps/ppc software for my O2 XDA iii that you think might suit my purpose stated earlier?
Big thanks to this forum.
Have a look at some of the SPB stuff, some of it still works on WM2003. Personally i have tried Pocket Plus and Time from them. For a profile manager try PhoneAlarm.
Other than that search this forum for PIM Backup.
Nothing else springs to mind as "vital", and my Alpine is at home so i can't say what else is on it.

Proud Xda IIi Owner....

Hi Guy's,
I've recently purchased a Xda IIi after owning the original Xda for 2months, and what a phone the Xda IIi is! The technical specifications are close to some of the more recent phones.
I've recently installed the Efficasoft GPRS Monitor and Resco Radio, along with a couple of other useful App's. The only gripe I have with the Xda IIi is that it freezes on the Photo Contacts when it tries to play an MP3 ringtone from the SD Card, but I soon cured this by just removing the custom tones.
I've kept the O2 software on at the moment, and I've downloaded the latest ROM to install once I've plucked up enough courage to install it.
I am also a VB.net developer, and I'm really thinking now of getting my head around the .Net Compact Framework. I'm still amazed there are no upgrades for the Xda IIi to either Windows Mobile 5 or 6, but nevermind this smart little phone has a great following.
I shall be frequenting the forums now I have found them and will put my hand in somewhere
Dave
Hi Dave,
yes, it's a great device! I have 2 of them for years (one for the GF). Who knows maybe nokser (see other thread) will manage to cook a ROM with WM 6.1 or 6.5
Willing to part with one now though, since I recently bought a Topaz, which is also really nice and a lot smaller.
Wishing you lots of fun with the XDA IIi !
Thanks TinTin,
Oh I shall have lots of fun with the Xda 2i. I've had a couple of standalone PPC's before, but its a whole new world opened up with a phone added
I will be keeping my eyes on that thread about WM6. One thing I've noticed reading up on the .Net compact framework, its a little restrictive, but I can cope with it, but I'm always up for a challenge.
I'm heavilly into Ham Radio and internet radio, so you can guess what type of app I'm going to try and write.
My wife thinks the Xda 2i is an ugly phone, and wanted me to get a normal Nokia (Symbian) phone, so I got both, and gave her the N70 lol....
Dave

[OFF TOPIC] using Kaiser flashing process for Wizard

Hi,
I have an old Cingular 8125 lying around the house not being use and I want to flash it with Android. There is no instruction anywhere in Wizard forum.
Since Wizard and Kaiser seem to be running on the similar bases (WM6.x) Can I use the same process with the SPL/radio and ROM from Kaiser to flash it on my 8125? Or, is that a NO! NO!? Just wondering...
No. HTC Wizard has a completely different hardware. If you flash the kernel intended for the Kaiser (assuming that it is possible) you get brick.
However, there is a thread on xda for a Wizard. Check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403015 or google for project named Wing-Linux.
Thank you for responding, guess I won't be doing it this way then.
I'll see what I can do with Wing-Linux.
Off topic indeed, but you found another Wizard lover!
Contact Ham3r - he has done some pretty serious experimentation with Wing Linux. I think that the project is totally dead now. Ham3r's WM ROMs are the best English ROMs for that device.
I keep two Wizards around. The hardware is quite obsolete by now, but it rocked for 2005.
Yes it is.
Thanks n2rjt. Yea, I noticed that myself. And too scare to use it. There was no action on Wing-Linux at all.

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