I came across Winterface last night.
I must say being an ipod touch owner I do like Winterface. The ability to have buttons for applications, contacts and settings all mixed up is great!
Also the slide function is very smooth. I have only found that sometimes its hard to press the buttons just right to activate them but that may just be fat fingers on my account.
I like Touch Flow but do find it a bit slow (even with the registry adjustments). I cannot update my rom as I cannot get a Hard SPL to load so Winterface is a nice alternative.
Three big problems for me:
1. No way to see upcoming appointments/tasks
2. Buttons are hard to press because the screen starts sliding
3. It's hard to get from the applications to the Winterface without closing them, if your OK button is set to Close. You have to get to the today screen and then make the finger move.
For me, it's unusable.
gave it a 30 minutes try on my Diamond.
Buggy buttons indeed - pressure issue with Diamond.
Would like to see Accelerometer support - shake and bake - switch screen or so.
I give it a fair 8/ for concept - a 3/ 10 for price (39USD is very expensive)
I will wait for Schaps UI
Since there IS a topic about using the G-sensor, I guess it is a good idea to come up with a thread about using the capacative touchpad of the diamond.
Since the test-tools were out, we saw that the left and right part of the centre-button is a multi-touch enabled touchpad.
It could be used in so many ways, for gestures, extra 'hardware' keys, etc. That's the reason for this topic.
Hey, I reverse engineered the Nav wheel. It may be multitouch, but the raw data I get back from the Diamond does not indicate that it is. The only data I was able to retrieve is rotations per second. I also have not figured out how to reverse engineer the center button.
Koush said:
Hey, I reverse engineered the Nav wheel. It may be multitouch, but the raw data I get back from the Diamond does not indicate that it is. The only data I was able to retrieve is rotations per second. I also have not figured out how to reverse engineer the center button.
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Maybe you have already seen it .. but check out the 'NavDbgTool.exe' here...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_Testing_Tool
Riel said:
Since there IS a topic about using the G-sensor, I guess it is a good idea to come up with a thread about using the capacative touchpad of the diamond.
Since the test-tools were out, we saw that the left and right part of the centre-button is a multi-touch enabled touchpad.
It could be used in so many ways, for gestures, extra 'hardware' keys, etc. That's the reason for this topic.
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Good idea ! I was thinking about starting such topic..
What about a unlocker ? If you slide your finger from Home key to the Answer key and at the same time you slide your other finger from the Back key to the Don't Answer key ? Could be nice.. just an idea!
What I have seen, that is quite hard, since above and below the nav-pad is no touch-pad. It sees it as 'nav-pad action' then.
I thought of navigating in another way.
What multitouch-applications do there exist, and are any of them usable for the limited space we have besides the nav-wheel?
It DOES give 4 extra 'hardware' keys. Even key-combinations can be made
Maybe some genious will find a slick way of text-inputting via the 2 pads !
Just give it a small kick upwards
Dont let this topic die?
I was just looking at this for a bit, think I get some clues about how to get the data. I have a time-problem, though Will probably be a while before I pick it up again.
However, I think I saw Schaps mention he is using it in his new touchxperience UI, that'd mean he knows how to do it. Why not just ask him?
I can see one use already. Capacitive sensors are more responsive than resistive screens, so it would be cool to use this in place of touching the screen to scroll through touchflo3d tabs.
Surur
Does any one know if this is implemented in the touch pro? and if so, in what way? Maybe we will inherit whatever the pro has to offer in this regard.
YESSSS!
This is awsome!
Did you guyzz see the vid vid?
Unlocking the Diamond with no Hard button touch at alll?.
Cheers fellasss
Nice, looking forward to a nice task manager and launcher mouse pad thing in the future!
A mouse like on the Samsung Omnia would be a good idea.
Surur
Not really multitouch
OK, I've download the NavDBG tool and played with it... strictly speaking this isn't multitouch, or not multitouch in the way that the apple looks at it. It's single touch but split into 3 areas. Basically imagine the button area at the bottom of the diamond is split into 3 columns.
You have 3 single touch areas:
1) On the left with the home and dial buttons
2) In the middle tracking outside the circle or also detecting a touch (not a button press) inside the circle. If you finger touches both outside and inside the circle, outside the circle takes precedence
3) On the right with the back and hangup buttons.
The multitouch impression comes from the fact that all 3 of these single touch areas can be used simultaneously.
This doesn't in my opinion open up brilliant options in terms of pinch to shrink spread to enlarge ala apple, but it does mean that a device fairly limited in terms of buttons could get a lot of good enhancements to useability.
My biggest annoyance with the device is when you are trying to gesture in TF3D or in an app (eg scrolling in opera) and it decides you've tapped mid gesture and follows a link etc, using the louch sensitive lower areas for gestures would eliminate this problem and make for a much better user experience (in my opinion).
Also, for games, the potential to use the touch sensitive lower area for a range of game controls would be great.
So all good stuff, but not strictly speaking multitouch.
edit: Additionally it seems to only see a narrow horizontal band in the middle (wheel) section. Interestingly it seems to register about 1cm on each side of the wheel and inside the button, it seems to infer rotation around the wheel based on the finger movements as it crosses these areas.
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This doesn't in my opinion open up brilliant options in terms of pinch to shrink spread to enlarge ala apple
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Seeing how small the pad area it, this would still work, just with fingers on different sensitive areas. If fact, this sounds like a perfect first implementation - zooming in Opera Mobile (although a bit senseless since the scroll wheel works with one hand while pinching will need two).
Surur
i think the biggest advantage of this revelation will the benefit of some new added buttons. I can think of a few uses for them too.
left/right touch to
move fwd/back through tabs in opera
skip fwd/back tracks in music player
pounding the hell out of when playing daily thompsons decathalon (if anyone remembers that great 80's game)
I remember reading somewhere that someone is preparing a SDK for this. I think it's very important since we have almost no programmable keys. This can be used as extra keys. Any news on this front?
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I remember reading somewhere that someone is preparing a SDK for this. I think it's very important since we have almost no programmable keys. This can be used as extra keys. Any news on this front?
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I would love to see this!
My full on support.
I was thinking of using the touchpanels for a mousepointer control!
I know, when browsing opera, my fingers are too fat to click small links.
Must keep zooming.
I wonder if it was possible to pop up a mouse cursor, and move it with one small touch-panel. The other panel for left and rightclicks.
I have held my diamond with that idea, and I think it is very useful and finger-friendly!
CapacitiveFingerLock
I did make a Proof of Concept of CapacativeFingerLock. This one gives another possibility of locking/unlocking the Touch Diamond or Touch Pro.
Hi Guys,
Just a quick one, has anyone found a way to calibrate the screen as I find that when trying to select text and stuff the cursor is way off my finger and it's a tad difficult.
Is there anyway to run a calibration like you used to have to do for WM Devices that used a stylus???
Thanks.
Jamie
I have the same problem but i am putting it down to the first time i have used a touch screen like this (had Touch HD last)
I actually think it's designed that way, ie so you can see where you are placing the cursor rather than having to guess where your finger is over which piece of text you are trying to alter, if you watch when you place your finger the cursor appears above your finger which makes it a lot easier to position in a bunch of text.
IMO it's a neat solution to not having a track ball for easy positioning for editing text.
To confirm - it is designed that way
That's fine and now you mention it, it does make sense, thought it was just me that's all lol Actually quite like it now I'm getting used to it. Used to be tricky to do this on iPhone as my finger covered up the word lol
I have to say I loled a bit when I read this, you can even see the cursor pop up from under your finger
Hello. I was just wondering if any of you out there (more specifically the people who own the Galaxy Note) if you know if it is possible to disable the finger touch input on the Galaxy Note when using the stylus? What I mean is, if you were to want to use JUST the stylus and NOT your fingers to navigate around on the Galaxy Note, is there an option that makes that possible or...?
Hopefully you guys understand what I'm trying to get an answer to.
Thanks!
there is no disable option however if you want to navigate your device using the stylus only, this is done pretty easily. The only buttons that you cannot use with the s pen are the hardware back and menu button however Samsung have created the same functions of the back and menu button if you use gestures on the pen i.e. if you keep your finger on the button of the s pen and swipe left on the screen, it acts the same as the back button likewise, if you swipe upwards, it acts like the menu button.
So in other words, what your saying is that the finger touch input will still be enabled even if I use the stylus?
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So in other words, what your saying is that the finger touch input will still be enabled even if I use the stylus?
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First of all dont insult it sayin stylus , its S-pen and is way more functional than so called stylus.
I wonder why you want to disable finger touch. if u dont want ur capacitive back button to get pressed when drawing (most of the users were facing it), then let me tell you that newer roms are taking care of that. i.e while drawing if you hit back button, it wont work unless you lift the S pen.
if your requirement is something else, then you can use gloves
If the finger touch won't be disabled when using the S-Pen, then one must not touch or rest his/her palm while using the S-Pen. It would have been more comfortable if the palm could rest the screen while writing. Yes, gloves may be useful here..:laugh:
Currently ICS and JB TW ROM's have S-note where you can enable palm rejection. But otherwise you cannot disable the touch on your touch screen
When you do some practice you can draw while resting your palm on the screen without touching the menu or back button.. I use to take notes in college only on my fone and it's very much familiar to use spen now
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Beerbong is working on palm rejection in pa 3
Or probably he is done
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Any one else struggling with the Knuckle gestures? I find it very challenging to get it right, I wonder if there is a trick or something!
Give it a good whack!
I'm using it really often for screenshots - they're working great for me.
But one thing I want to have with this gestures is to enable the navbar.
The reason for that is, I wear gloves at work and can't go back to home with them, because the finger print sensor doesn't recognize my finger with glove.
I don't know still not able to get it work consistently specially splitting the screen in apps that has side sliding pages!!