Someone was auctioning Diamond with the HD os in it, and said its faster than the touchflo in Diamonds.
Is this true and is it worth trying to install HD's touchflo to a regular Diamon? How is it done?
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It's true that the Touch HD roms has been ported to the Diamond, as far as the touch HD being faster, i think it depends on user base, as i've ported the touchflo from quartz and blackstone and they seem faster to me. Also do try to flash the touch hd roms to your diamond, u'll end up bricking them.
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Hey,
Something that came in my mind when i was viewing the specs of the touch diamond 2 in comparison to our HD. They are pretty much the same apart from some hardware buttons (zoom slider), and screen size. Though both have WVGA resolution.
I was thinking when the so beloved "free update" to WM6.5 comes out for the diamond somewhere in the future. Wont that rom be directly installable for our HD? Since all the hardware is the same?. Would ease my mind a lot knowing that i can still have exactly the same
greetings.
I don't really see the point, we have great cookers here, so if you want WM6.5, you already can. Latest updates from Diamond 2 will be sure used to make a ROM.
For your question, a ROM from another device can't be installed without modifications.
There are quite a few ROMs in this section that use the diamond 2 and touch pro 2 new TF3D (topaz and rhodium) and quite a few also do windows mobile 6.5 however because it is still unreleased they are not completly stable and up to speed. this will most lightly change when WM6.5 is released.
there are also ROMs here that have both the ROMs in this section can all be flashed onto the Touch HD.
Maybe some of the the sofewares from Diamond2 can be used in HD rom,but I don't think the ROMS between two device can be used for each other directly.
No you can't update directly because the hardware is not the same. For example buttons, Gestures etc. While it is close to the same it will still require a cook to combine the two devices drivers and software together.
Funny!
I thinks the rom for the diamond 2 is not work in our HD,
Hi there all i thought we could call upon all android bufins to start porting android to htc touch pro 2,Maybe we can use the blackstone vershion and build on top of that or the htc touch pro vershion.Now that the HTC magic is out with android 1.5 this helps us to get a better port working on htc devices and android on htc touch pro 2 would be out of this world so gentlemen let the games begin.
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Hi there all i thought we could call upon all android bufins to start porting android to htc touch pro 2,Maybe we can use the blackstone vershion and build on top of that or the htc touch pro vershion.Now that the HTC magic is out with android 1.5 this helps us to get a better port working on htc devices and android on htc touch pro 2 would be out of this world so gentlemen let the games begin.
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have you tried to load the HD images that are out there? WOuld be a nice start
sorry i havent we need some developers to try for us so we have a base to start from come on what a brilliant handset the htc touch pro2 is i just can't imagine the possibilities with it running android.
Ok here is the HD vershion of Android port if somone can test and report back that would be great http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneLinux
I think if the image works, the keyboard has to work then directly aswell!
jutley said:
Hi there all i thought we could call upon all android bufins to start porting android to htc touch pro 2,Maybe we can use the blackstone vershion and build on top of that or the htc touch pro vershion.Now that the HTC magic is out with android 1.5 this helps us to get a better port working on htc devices and android on htc touch pro 2 would be out of this world so gentlemen let the games begin.
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use the hero rom
yes the hero is a android phone but we cant just flash a android rom onto the touc pro2 but i am sure a developer out there can do something about that and use the hero rom to work for tp2.
maybe the diamond 2 vershion will work atleast its a start the roms are the same on both devices http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509493
http://www.androidonhtc.com/
i think porting the android hero rom would be even more badasssss
waiting so patiently for my touch pro 2
ok so all those android developes the hero rom it shall be. Its final soon as the hero is released get ready with your aprons on and get cooking make us all proud be all heros.
i hate this forum
no i dont i love it..but everytime i get a new phone i come on here to find out something else and it makes want the other new phone..i just got the Htc magic google ion..andnow you guys are talking about Hero on that Sexy touch pro2..man i do miss a keyboard..but the g1 was too ugly..oh well :/ i hope the touch pro2 isnt that expensive
HTC Hero with the same RAM/ROM/CPU as TP2 just got announced today as an Android phone with HTC's own touch UI additions.
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/06/2...ra-teflon-coating-coming-out-late-summer.html
Once this hits the wild and ROM hackers get on it, I think there might be further advances on Android on TP2.
BTW, check out the video. Full featured Android is not (yet), but it does look cool.
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HTC Hero with the same RAM/ROM/CPU as TP2 just got announced today as an Android phone with HTC's own touch UI additions.
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/06/2...ra-teflon-coating-coming-out-late-summer.html
Once this hits the wild and ROM hackers get on it, I think there might be further advances on Android on TP2.
BTW, check out the video. Full featured Android is not (yet), but it does look cool.
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The hero doesn't have the same screen, and that is (it think) a major problem.
think the screen is not the problem. android is concepted to work withe different screen sices
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think the screen is not the problem. android is concepted to work withe different screen sices
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I've seend video's of the touch HD on youtube where it appears that the menu had problems displaying contents while opening. (in opened and closed states it looked normal) Also third party apps will mostly be designed for standard screen size I guess even though Android itself might be capable.
Not completely related, but HTC has apparently announced that the HTC Sense UI on their Hero Android phone will be coming to future HTC WM mobiles:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5239
A nice alternative to Touch Flo 3D perhaps.
vasra said:
Not completely related, but HTC has apparently announced that the HTC Sense UI on their Hero Android phone will be coming to future HTC WM mobiles:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5239
A nice alternative to Touch Flo 3D perhaps.
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They'd better release an Android driven Touch Pro2!
vasra said:
Not completely related, but HTC has apparently announced that the HTC Sense UI on their Hero Android phone will be coming to future HTC WM mobiles:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5239
A nice alternative to Touch Flo 3D perhaps.
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Manila 3..
Geniuses, pls port the Hero's Androids for our Rhodium. Dualboot is awesome. But I can see Hero hv multi-touch support. not a big deal, either it can boot with Rhodium or I have to fasting for another few months (to save money actually )to get this green robot driven gagdet.
I have a question for you. Will I load the HD2 ROM on my HD?
sounds like you need that application to decide for you, I cant think of its name right now (damn) but you shake HD and it gives the answer hahhahaha or perhaps a fortune cookie may help.
i dont think it's possible, different hardware, different drivers, resistive vs capacitive / multi-touch etc, you get the idea...
dont think HTC will even let it happen, else they would have an ROM upgrade for HD...
if you want the new manila, custom ROM is the only way to go...many brilliant chefs are doing a wonderful job on cooking WM6.5 + manila 2.5 ROMs...
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I have a question for you. Will I load the HD2 ROM on my HD?
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if you have intention of brik your HD,
yes
Think this thread has served its purpose. I wouldn't recommend flashing HD2 rom onto your HD
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Hi all,
HTC has released a new version of Sense (2.5, the one with shortcuts on homescreen) for Touch Pro 2 and Touch Diamond 2. My friend has TP2 with the new sense and it was very smooth and fast (it was so fast that it really surprised me alot!), not like the Sense 2.5 ROMs released here which are laggy, slow and for me not ready for everyday use. I wonder if it's possible to have this version of Sense on THD as it has the same hardware as TP2... I also hope someone will make it with WM 6.1 as I don't like 6.5(.x), it would be really awesome
Most of the Manila 2.5s that are used here are from the Topaz Roms...
So why are they so slow? The one I saw on the friend's TP2 was even smoother and faster than old manila 2.1 on my THD and I've tried many 2.1 and 2.5 ROMs so far...
EDIT: I've look randomly in some threads with 2.5 ROMs and all of them said "Sense 2.5 Leo" which means it's from HD2...
it isn't just the manilla version. The TP2 has native WM 6.5 drivers, while our blackstone only has (modified) WM 6.1 drivers. That's the main reason for the Backstone being slower.
And it can't be fixed? Did anyone try just using TP2 drivers on THD? It has the same hardware so it may work and be fast...
I'm not sure, but I think if it was easy to do, someone would have done that a long time ago . I beleave the drivers need to be ported first. The problem is the HD doesn't have the exact same hardware as the Diamond 2 and the TP2; the amount of ROM and RAM are the same, as is the CPU clockspeed, but the chipsets are slightly different. Our blackstone has a Qualcomm 7201A chipset while the D2 and TP2 have the Qualcomm 7200a chipset (topic about this here).
You could try asking your question in the graphics driver development topic over at the rom development board if you want more information about this.
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I'm not sure, but I think if it was easy to do, someone would have done that a long time ago . I beleave the drivers need to be ported first. The problem is the HD doesn't have the exact same hardware as the Diamond 2 and the TP2; the amount of ROM and RAM are the same, as is the CPU clockspeed, but the chipsets are slightly different. Our blackstone has a Qualcomm 7201A chipset while the D2 and TP2 have the Qualcomm 7200a chipset (topic about this here).
You could try asking your question in the graphics driver development topic over at the rom development board if you want more information about this.
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I know this isn't quite what you guys were talking about but the TP2 (Rhodium) does have significantly different hardware to the HD: it has a hardware keyboard. I only point this out as it's indicative of the differences between the 2 devices. If the same software were released with specififc drivers to fit the 2 different sets of hardware they'd perform pretty similarly, but the HD has been left behind in support for WM 6.5. As a result Rhodium based roms (like my own rom) have to use 'hacks' or mods to get simple things like the volume keys to work correctly with the latest Sense manila builds. Ironically the HD2 has very similar hardware to the HD but is considerably more powerful; Leo based roms are designed to fit within a power range beyond anything the HD was ever designed to achieve, so they can suffer from slowdown.
It's a matter of personal taste with roms. The HD reached the pinnacle of it's support from HTC with manila (TF3D) 1.3 and WM 6.1 so that should be the ideal for perfromance. Manila 2.0 and 2.1 seem to work fast and well though, thanks to the good people of XDA and the other sites. Similarly WM 6.5 functions just fine on the HD. 6.5.x lacks drivers for certain functions (volume control). As for manila (Sense 2.5) the HD was never supported, though it seems to run fine but a little slow in places (HTC messaging probably bening the low point). My roms use Rhodium 2.5 manila because I find it to be faster. I have performed no benchmarking, just user experience, to come to this conclusion. It makes sense though when you accept that removing a few tabs will inevitably speed things up (documents, ereader and footprints are Leo exclusive for now) and that the Rhodium and Topaz 2.5 manila builds are (theoretically) optimized for non-snapdragon processors.
Well, I think I won't care about this stuff any more. HD is "outdated" and can't have Sense running really smooth and fast. I'll stick with classic today plugins (SPB Pocket Plus have tabs and switching between them is much faster than any manila/sense) replacing the functionality of manila thanks anyway for answers
SciLor's HD2 / Leo Multitouch .NET CF DLL
http://www.scilor.com/hd2-leo-dotNetCfMultiTouchDLL.html
Is it possible with this in the Roms!
Asking to ROM makers!
That will increase life of the TP2 2 more years. that is the only new think I want with WM7.
Thanks
Tunc
I hope that you see the "LEO" or "HD2" in the name, right?
Because, HD2 supports multitouch on hardware level. Our phones don't. Why? Because our touchscreens can't do it. The only way around it is use my PinchToZoom software, enabling it in (older vers) OM9.5/9.7/GMAPS or (new ver, HD2-like zooming) in OM9.7 or (upcomming version) in all apps that HD2 supports it.
I will test your app soon an write back
Thanks
Leo HD2's touch screen is different with our TP2.
TP2 is Resistive touch screen.
HD2 is the introduction of Capacitive touch screen
thanks
limited use but works,
Tunc